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Richard
10-01-2009, 12:21 AM
Hey you European members,
I have received a few cuttings of an Adriatic fig from Subotica, called "Kecenovic". Can you tell me anything about it?
Dalmatiansoap
10-01-2009, 10:50 AM
Hey Richard
Subotica is town in Serbia, Vojvodina region, penJ should know better its his country. Check on google earth ;)
Kečenović must be growers last name.
Adriatic is region where Im from, sorrounding Adriatic see, costal Croatia, Montenegro and Italy, so if cuttings are from Subotica that cannot be Adriatic variety.
We have 2-3 native spicies of figs here in Dalmatia and I think that even notice some our figs on pitangdiegos Webebananas site.
If U R interested I can send U some this winter.
:woohoonaner:
Richard
10-01-2009, 01:57 PM
Dalmatiansoap, the Kečenović family are Noble Magyars who began growing this Adriatic variety a few centuries ago in the district of Subotica, nowadays part of Serbia. Hopefully, someone here will know more about it.
penJ.
10-01-2009, 02:54 PM
Sorry i dont know anything bout that fig... i just know many varietes of figs can be grown here... my friend has some varitey that bears huuuge fruits, big as fist.
Dalmatiansoap
10-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Dalmatiansoap, the Kečenović family are Noble Magyars who began growing this Adriatic variety a few centuries ago in the district of Subotica, nowadays part of Serbia. Hopefully, someone here will know more about it.
Course Richard, Kečenovićs are Noble Magyars same as U and me R Chineese:ha::ha:. Dont know who told U that but U might say that somewhwere on wrong place and make yourself sound funny.
Subotica isnt district but town, see Wiki.
Hopefully someone will start to trust ppls here ;)
:woohoonaner:
penJ.
10-01-2009, 03:46 PM
Course Richard, Kečenovićs are Noble Magyars same as U and me R Chineese:ha::ha:.
:ha: true
Richard
10-01-2009, 07:59 PM
Here's a map of the Subotica district from Wikipedia:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Subotica_mun.png/300px-Subotica_mun.png
The Kečenović family built an estate in the northwest sometime in the early 1700's and the fig orchard was planted by the same generation. One set of brothers emigrated to Chicago (U.S.) after World War 1 while others remained behind. A few decades later they met my mother's side of the family, which is also 100% Magyar.
Dalmatiansoap
10-02-2009, 06:51 AM
Anyway Kečenovićs are either Serbs or Croats, dont want to discusst that, and all Subotica region speaks Hungaryian so that might be reason why U can thing that they are Magyars like your mothers familly.
And again it is continentall part of Serbia, deffintivlly non Adriatic part of Europe.
:woohoonaner:
Richard
10-02-2009, 09:37 AM
Ante,
The figs growing at the Kečenović estate were imported from some Adriatic region centuries ago, just as the Mission Fig was imported here in California. The cuttings I obtained of the Kečenović Fig are from a tree in southern California that was established in my lifetime. The Kečenovićs who immigrated to Chicago almost a century ago and then later to California are certainly ethnic Magyars, same as the families of Fisher, Geritz, and Salamon whom I have known for 50 years.
Dalmatiansoap
10-02-2009, 10:13 AM
Naah,
whatever
:nanadrink:
Richard
10-02-2009, 10:45 AM
If I were to immigrate to Serbia to establish a home and business, I would definitely change my name to the Serbian equivalent of "Frost".
:nanadrink:
penJ.
10-02-2009, 10:50 AM
If I were to immigrate to Serbia to establish a home and business, I would definitely change my name to the Serbian equivalent of "Frost".
:nanadrink:
Serbia isnt in Siberia
:waving:
Richard
10-02-2009, 11:15 AM
Serbia isnt in Siberia
:ha:
My family name here in the U.S. is "Frost".
Richard
11-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Ante, ...
The Kečenovićs who immigrated to Chicago almost a century ago and then later to California are certainly ethnic Magyars, same as the families of Fisher, Geritz, and Salamon whom I have known for 50 years.
California artist Franz Geritz (http://www.annexgalleries.com/artists/Franz_Geritz.html) and Family, 1940.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=27062&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=27062)
Dalmatiansoap
11-21-2009, 03:23 PM
Anyway Kečenovićs are either Serbs or Croats, dont want to discusst that, and all Subotica region speaks Hungaryian so that might be reason why U can thing that they are Magyars like your mothers familly.
And again it is continentall part of Serbia, deffintivlly non Adriatic part of Europe.
:woohoonaner:
Stanišić - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stani%C5%A1i%C4%87)
Check under Serb, Croat and Bunjevac family names
Its same Vojvodina region
:woohoonaner:
Richard
11-21-2009, 03:34 PM
In the photo, you see:
top left: Ference Geritz, my mother
bottom left: Eugene Geritz, my uncle
at the piano: Josephine Heinz Geritz, my grandmother (her parents also from southern Hungary)
standing to right of keyboard: Mariska Geritz, my aunt
sitting on right: Franz Geritz, my grandfather
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=27062&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=27062)
Richard
11-21-2009, 04:37 PM
When my great-grandfather brought his family from Hungary to the U.S., he shortened the family name from something like "Gerce d........... Geritz" to just "Geritz" -- a common practice 100 years ago.
I think judging someone's ethnicity by their family name is a poor idea. For example, my niece Megan Holtorf is 100% Samoan.
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