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Clare_CA
09-26-2009, 01:30 PM
Is Hua Moa a good one? Anyone growing it? I'd like to hear what you think about it. If you know where I can find one, that would be awesome. Thanks.
sunfish
09-26-2009, 01:49 PM
I am growing HUA MOA but know very little about it.
CValentine
09-26-2009, 03:33 PM
Hi Clare!
I don't have a Hua Moa banana plant, but I buy them ALOT(the plantain/bananas) from my local HEB grocery.
They are DELICIOUS! I make tostones out of them & they are YUM!!
Also was advised to let the peel to spot up really good & they were yummy to eat out of hand(but heavier in the stomach than the 'normal' cavendish).
When we get the chance, we're gonna get one & try our hand at growing them too!
Good luck! ~Cheryl
Clare_CA
09-26-2009, 04:24 PM
Oh, that's great. Thanks so much for the report, Cheryl! Another one to add to my list!
Thanks too, Tony.
Bananaman88
09-26-2009, 10:30 PM
Cheryl,
My wife and I looked at our local HEB last night and we were unable to find and Hua Moas. I was quite disappointed as I had read your report here about being able to get them there. I had to settle for the normal plantain.
banfan
09-27-2009, 12:33 AM
The Redland Fruit & Spice park has samples of ripe fruit available on a daily basis and I was fortunate enough to be able to taste a ripe HM about two weeks ago. There is no doubt that it would be great for tostones as it is quite meaty. It was also good to eat out of hand. I planted one a few months ago and am looking forward to the harvest. Another good banana for tostones is the not so meaty but firm Macaboo.:birthdaynana:
planetrj
09-27-2009, 01:27 AM
I used to grow Hua Moa for fruit, but now it never matures out, but just grow pups to go to the farmers markets. I absolutely RECOMMEND Orinoco, if you're going to want something similar for many reasons over HM.
I agree that Hua Moa is very good for tostones. However, there are many drawbacks with HM, which is that it seems it's a bit slower of a grower and is a 24-28 month'er, and it's hands are often uneven with many underdeveloped fruit and few full-sized fruit (12-15 avg). Also, it seems to need a much longer maturing time than Orinoco. I had waited 6 months for one inflorescence to mature. I think it also had a bit less density than Orinoco as well, which created the sections to break easier when sautee'ing for tostones. I can't say enough good about Orinoco just for the fact that it makes a pretty sweet dessert banana if allowed to hang on the tree till it turns yellow. Lastly, Hua Moa is picky. Propagation is sometimes tricky...Whenever I cut off the pups, they have to be put into incredibly fast draining soil, or they will easily rot. Secondly, it has to be brought in even here, because I've had a near complete dieback at 35-38 degrees, while Orinoco often makes it through the whole winter with foliage unburned. Anyway, this is my experience.
Tomsamba
09-27-2009, 06:32 AM
My HuaMoa ain't Hua no Moa. For some reason it kicked the bucket and I never replanted it. I live in banana land, so if it wants to be fussy. I'll move on and plant others...maybe go back to Hua Moa one day....
Rmplmnz
09-27-2009, 08:30 AM
Is Hua Moa a good one? Anyone growing it? I'd like to hear what you think about it. If you know where I can find one, that would be awesome. Thanks.
Couple of good threads on Hua Moa...
http://www.bananas.org/f2/platano-hawaiano-8434.html
http://www.bananas.org/f2/bananas-6409-2.html
http://www.bananas.org/f2/top-10-bananas-taste-8986.html
CValentine
09-27-2009, 10:18 AM
Cheryl,
My wife and I looked at our local HEB last night and we were unable to find and Hua Moas. I was quite disappointed as I had read your report here about being able to get them there. I had to settle for the normal plantain.
Hi All!!!
For anyone who would like to try these YUMMY Hawaiian Plantains, I am willing to box up & send some to you!
(As available from our HEB, will let you know)
Depending on how many you want, I can choose the appropriate sized Priority Flat Rate box & cushion those bananas with tonzo-monzo bubble wrap.
I won't ask more that I paid, just cost...just enjoy sharing the LOVE of bananas!
Just an offer - let me know via PM!
Have a great Morning! :) ~Cheryl
momoese
09-27-2009, 10:32 AM
That's very nice of you Cheryl! What is an HEB?
Tomsamba
09-27-2009, 10:39 AM
Herbert E Butts!!!
damaclese
09-27-2009, 10:53 AM
i have one and its only grown 12" this year it looks like helll and apires to be sufering from rot they dont like sogy pots im about to throw it on the compost heap im with you all got way to many Bananas viriatys to be wasting my time on a baby of a plant its sink or swim in the evil desert south west but if it lives all keep you all posted
CValentine
09-27-2009, 11:14 AM
HEB is:
A grocery chain here where I live,
owned by a Mr. Butts... :D
I am going to the Philippino & Puerto Rican grocery here on Thursday of this week.
Will report back with the goodies I find this week, besides my normal staples.
:) ~Cheryl
Clare_CA
09-27-2009, 02:01 PM
Oh, thanks so much, everyone. That's exactly what I was looking for -- a critical review with the positives and negatives of growing this variety.
I think I'll actually pass on this one since the negatives seem to outweigh the positives and since there is a close substitution that is better. I actually bought two Dwarf Orinoco's from James here so I am very pleased that I already have a good substitution.
I really appreciate the information because I have limited banana space here, and so learning this information by experience would cost me a lot of time, money, and effort. If I can draw on your experience, I'll be way ahead of the game. Many thanks.
planetrj
09-27-2009, 04:20 PM
I actually bought two Dwarf Orinoco's from James here so I am very pleased that I already have a good substitution.
With having the Orinoco's, you're going to LOVE the versatility of the fruit and the trouble free growing. In Camarillo, you'll probably never have any issues of hot or cold leaf burning with it. It's also nice, because it's one of the few that I can pick nice, yellow, and ripe right off the tree and eat it in the garden. They don't split too badly either. Does anyone else find the virtues of a warm banana absolutely delightful?
Orinocos also make some of the bestest tostones and banana chips ever!
Clare_CA
09-27-2009, 05:45 PM
Thanks, Rj! There is so much that I have to learn yet in the banana world, including what are tostones and how to make them and banana chips, but I will find the information, which I know is here. Now if I could just find the time...:ha:
planetrj
09-27-2009, 06:08 PM
Tostones: Easy!!!
(I learned this recipe from my Puerto Rican neighbor when I was a teenager)
4 Green Plantain type
1 tsp. salt
1/2 cup cold water
2 fresh minced garlic cloves
3 tbsp. Olive Oil
Slice the plantains at a 45 degree angle to make oval shaped slices about 1/2 inch thick. Soak them overnight (about 6-8 hours) in the salted water covered in the refrigerator. Next day, drain all the water (don't rinse), then pat dry with a paper towel till sticky/dry. In a mixing bowl with a rubber spatula, gently toss together the slices with the garlic and Olive Oil till completely coated. Allow to rest for 1 hour, then heat a nonstick sautee pan on medium-high. Pour in 1/2 of the mixture including 1/2 the Olive oil into the pan at a time. Spread out slices so they make contact with the pan surface to brown. Allow to sizzle and cook till each slice gets a light brown, then turn once to brown the other side. Remove after both sides are browned, and turn onto a paper towel or mesh drain rack, and repeat with other 1/2 of mixture. Serve warm.
This recipe is delicious. I've seen so many variations, but I can tell you that the Seņora that I learned it from was straight from Puerto Rico, so this is authentic Casero Style. :)
Thanks, Rj! There is so much that I have to learn yet in the banana world, including what are tostones and how to make them and banana chips, but I will find the information, which I know is here. Now if I could just find the time...:ha:
mjdsinsacto
09-27-2009, 06:20 PM
HEB is:
A grocery chain here where I live,
owned by a Mr. Butts... :D
I am going to the Philippino & Puerto Rican grocery here on Thursday of this week.
Will report back with the goodies I find this week, besides my normal staples.
:) ~Cheryl
Hi,
"Filipino" is the term used for anything native of the Republic of the Philippines.
Filipino grocery, Filipino flag, but Philippine president, government.
planetrj
09-27-2009, 06:30 PM
And...to add to the confusion... if you spoke (previously called "Tagolog"), it's now officially called "Filipino" (no H), but used to be called Pilipino. :)
Hi,
"Filipino" is the term used for anything native of the Republic of the Philippines.
Filipino grocery, Filipino flag, but Philippine president, government.
momoese
09-27-2009, 06:39 PM
Tostones: Easy!!!
(I learned this recipe from my Puerto Rican neighbor when I was a teenager)
4 Green Plantain type
1 tsp. salt
1/2 cup cold water
2 fresh minced garlic cloves
3 tbsp. Olive Oil
Slice the plantains at a 45 degree angle to make oval shaped slices about 1/2 inch thick. Soak them overnight (about 6-8 hours) in the salted water covered in the refrigerator. Next day, drain all the water (don't rinse), then pat dry with a paper towel till sticky/dry. In a mixing bowl with a rubber spatula, gently toss together the slices with the garlic and Olive Oil till completely coated. Allow to rest for 1 hour, then heat a nonstick sautee pan on medium-high. Pour in 1/2 of the mixture including 1/2 the Olive oil into the pan at a time. Spread out slices so they make contact with the pan surface to brown. Allow to sizzle and cook till each slice gets a light brown, then turn once to brown the other side. Remove after both sides are browned, and turn onto a paper towel or mesh drain rack, and repeat with other 1/2 of mixture. Serve warm.
This recipe is delicious. I've seen so many variations, but I can tell you that the Seņora that I learned it from was straight from Puerto Rico, so this is authentic Casero Style. :)
RJ, sounds great, would you please post this recipe to the banana recipe section here for safe keeping. :bananas_b
mjdsinsacto
09-27-2009, 07:09 PM
And...to add to the confusion... if you spoke (previously called "Tagolog"), it's now officially called "Filipino" (no H), but used to be called Pilipino. :)
not meaning to hijack this thread, just a minor but essential correction Tagalog is the official national language.
... back to our regular viewing channel ... :)
planetrj
09-27-2009, 07:19 PM
not meaning to hijack this thread, just a minor but essential correction Tagalog is the official national language.
... back to our regular viewing channel ... :)
oopps! You're right. I did spell it with an o instead of an A. I was spelling it phonetically, my bad.
However, what I was refering to is today. The language is often still 'coined' as being the Tagalog dialect, but the national language is officially called "Filipino", according to the 1973 Constitution. This is what I was referring to. It's no longer officially called Tagalog when you are there. Many American Filipinos do still refer to it as Tagalog.
By the way, happy 100th birthday of Baguio City!!!! :D
Clare_CA
09-27-2009, 07:57 PM
Awesome, Rj. Thanks for taking the time to post that for me. I'm going to try it as soon as I am able to!
Rmplmnz
09-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Thanks, Rj! There is so much that I have to learn yet in the banana world, including what are tostones and how to make them and banana chips, but I will find the information, which I know is here. Now if I could just find the time...:ha:
Tostone pics..
http://www.bananas.org/f2/bananas-6409-2.html#post72729
Rmplmnz
09-27-2009, 09:56 PM
I think I'll actually pass on this one since the negatives seem to outweigh the positives and since there is a close substitution that is better. I actually bought two Dwarf Orinoco's from James here so I am very pleased that I already have a good substitution.
Ok, I am going to jump in on this thread..with due respect to other members Orinicoco is no substitute for Hua Moa...back in the day (1993) I spoke with Bill Lessard (Going Bananas, Homestead, FL) on the phone (of the banana book fame)
Amazon.com: The Complete Book of Bananas (9780963316103): William O. Lessard: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-Bananas-William-Lessard/dp/0963316109/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254106068&sr=8-1)
and I asked him which banana I should grow and he said Hua Moa...they are awesome..
No doubt Orinioco is easier to grow and more cold hardy (the most common dooryard variety in FL), but it is not a substitute for Hua Moa...
Grow both!!
This is the first banana plant I ever acquired...I have boiled them green (like potatoes with Mojo sauce), fried green (tostones), friend ripe, eaten ripe,..
If I could only grow one banana it would be Hua Moa...
Clare_CA
09-28-2009, 12:12 AM
LOL, okay, sounds good. "When in doubt, do both" is usually my motto.:goteam:
Clare_CA
09-28-2009, 12:13 AM
Tostone pics..
http://www.bananas.org/f2/bananas-6409-2.html#post72729
Rmplmnz, were the tostone pics there on that thread because I didn't see them? Thanks.
planetrj
09-28-2009, 02:07 AM
Sounds Excellent, and I am behind you all the way, if I could just have as much luck as all the other cv's I grow. Now, when will you be coming over to care for my HM's? lol!
I did try twice, but maybe I just need to move to Tampa so I can grow them. :)
Thanks for the great links and info!!! :bananas_b
Grow both!!
This is the first banana plant I ever acquired...I have boiled them green (like potatoes with Mojo sauce), fried green (tostones), friend ripe, eaten ripe
CValentine
09-28-2009, 08:37 AM
Hi Clare...
I have another link...has pics if you scroll down to post #23...
There are pics of my Hua Moa creation - not necessarily tostones, but YUMMY all the same!!
http://www.bananas.org/f2/hua-moa-yield-short-but-fat-8994.html
Thanks!! ~Cheryl
banfan
09-28-2009, 09:33 AM
Cheryl you are a gem!
Clare_CA
09-28-2009, 09:41 AM
That is a great thread. Thank you, Cheryl! Yummy is right!
Rmplmnz
09-28-2009, 10:49 AM
Rmplmnz, were the tostone pics there on that thread because I didn't see them? Thanks.
Clare if you click the hyperlink it should take you right to post # 36 within the thread. Allow the thread to fully load.
http://www.bananas.org/f2/bananas-6409-2.html#post72729
Clare_CA
09-28-2009, 11:06 AM
Awesome pics, Rmplmnz. I figured out what I did wrong. I was on Page 2, not realizing that there was a Page 1. Amazing pics. Thanks.
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