View Full Version : Do banana suckers look like grass when they first come up?
brycast!
09-24-2009, 02:40 PM
There is a small unknown thing growing on the side of my banana plant, I'm not sure if it's a suker or just grass!... If any one can help me with this, like maybe post a picture of a banana sucker that just came up? I would really appriciate it. Thanks in advanced
Welcome aboard, Brycast! :) ! I've never encountered a pup that looked anything like grass before and I grow 9 different species of bananas. Also, I've been growing nanners for 3 years now.
Am editing my post in response to Jack's post. He would Definitely know more about new pups than me cause he's quite a bit more knowlegeable on the subject.
I get the impression you're a new member here. If so, should you have any questions about using the forum, just ask.
Enjoy!
Jack Daw
09-24-2009, 04:09 PM
When only a small leaf tip appears for the first time and you mowe it, it might resemble cut grass. But not if its somewhat taller than 2''.
When only a small leaf tip appears for the first time and you mowe it, it might resemble cut grass. But not if its somewhat taller than 2''.
Thanx for jumping in, Jack :) ! I've never actually seen a pup from the moment it came up so I just assumed they came up kind of big. Guess I should be watching more closely.... when I get some time.
Jack Daw
09-24-2009, 04:37 PM
Thanx for jumping in, Jack :) ! I've never actually seen a pup from the moment it came up so I just assumed they came up kind of big. Guess I should be watching more closely.... when I get some time.
Eric, it's a miracle of birth, every creature is born relatively small, to allow progress in the life. :D
It's really wonderful to see just the tip. Small, really like a narrow grass. It stays like that for a few hours or a day. Not more than that.
brycast!
09-24-2009, 05:41 PM
Welcome aboard, Brycast! ! I've never encountered a pup that looked anything like grass before and I grow 9 different species of bananas. Also, I've been growing nanners for 3 years now.
Am editing my post in response to Jack's post. He would Definitely know more about new pups than me cause he's quite a bit more knowlegeable on the subject.
I get the impression you're a new member here. If so, should you have any questions about using the forum, just ask.
Enjoy!
yea i am new. and also at growing banana plants... i bought some mussa coccinea seeds and ive bin trying to germinate them but i cant seem to be able to. u think you could help me with some tips?
Jananas Bananas
09-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Here's a small pup coming up from one of my Siam Ruby's. It is teeny tiny and looks a lot like grass. Hope this helps! ~JaNan
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23768&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23768&ppuser=5614)
brycast!
09-24-2009, 06:07 PM
yes it does help a lot thank u so much!
yea i am new. and also at growing banana plants... i bought some mussa coccinea seeds and ive bin trying to germinate them but i cant seem to be able to. u think you could help me with some tips?
Wish I could. Unfortunately, I just recently started studying seed-type nanners and only have 2, Musa Sikkimensis & Musa Basjoo. But they were already pups when I got them & with school back, I wont have a lot of time to learn more right away. If you go to homepage & scroll down to "Banana Seed Germination Forum" and click on that title, you can find lots of threads with tons of info on the subject :).
Can help with the "Reply" & "Quote" buttons, though. If ya wanna have what someone said in your post, just click the "Quote" button & start typing where the quote finishes up :). The button with just pen & paper is for Replies without quoting anyone. Took me a while to figure that out when I first started so don't feel lonely.
Jack, you should know something about seed germination so I think I'll let you cut in here :). Btw, soon as I get some time, I'll start watching for new pups so I can see for myself :) !
Is a Zebrina a seed-type nanner?
Jack's really good, I've learned a Lot of what I know just from reading his posts!
I've often times wishfully thought that small grass would be a pup but it's always been grass :( I hope I get a trillion pups next season!
frog7994
09-25-2009, 07:28 AM
well you can just wait and see what comes of it. If it's a pup you will know soon enough.
LilRaverBoi
09-25-2009, 12:36 PM
Welcome to the site, brycast...I'm Bryan! Guess we have 4 letters in common, huh? LOL :ha: Hope you enjoy it here!
As for the pup question...they do have narrow leaves, but the leaves are usually thick enough you can tell the difference between that and grass. When in doubt, leave it there for a while and see what becomes of it!
brycast!
09-30-2009, 02:42 AM
Welcome to the site, brycast...I'm Bryan! Guess we have 4 letters in common, huh? LOL :ha: Hope you enjoy it here!
As for the pup question...they do have narrow leaves, but the leaves are usually thick enough you can tell the difference between that and grass. When in doubt, leave it there for a while and see what becomes of it!
actually we have the same name in common! my name is bryan too! and i guess that thing next to my banana plant, was just a peace of grass! DARN it! lol!:(
damaclese
09-30-2009, 06:57 AM
yea i am new. and also at growing banana plants... i bought some Musa coccinea seeds and ive bin trying to germinate them but i cant seem to be able to. u think you could help me with some tips?
brycat Banana seeds are a sum what complicated subject theres a seed growing forum on the front page of Bananas.org go there and start reading this is eraser then trying to answer you question which could take days to properly explain
welcome to Bananas.org
PaulO
Worm_Farmer
09-30-2009, 10:48 AM
Yes, They sure can look like grass sometimes.
This one I pulled back from grass so you can see it. It looks just like a new shoot of grass, to the untrained eye.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24142 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24142)
These are some new pups on another mat that I have, these ones kind of look like grass also. Just to compare different types will each have a little different growth habit.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24141 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24141)
frog7994
09-30-2009, 11:34 AM
good example
brycast!
09-30-2009, 02:08 PM
wow those look great! and the pups do look alot like grass! but i guess mine is still too small to be giving out pups anyway... its only like about 4 ft tall!
Jananas Bananas
09-30-2009, 02:53 PM
You never know. The Siam Ruby pictured below is not even a foot tall including leaves with the pup approximately half of that! It depends on what kind of banana it is. Do you know. Can you post pictures?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24148 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24147)
brycast!
09-30-2009, 03:17 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24151&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24151&ppuser=6183)
I don't think it's doing so good.. i cut the leaves off because they were drying up and were flopping down.
Jananas Bananas
09-30-2009, 03:42 PM
Looks like it is sunburnt, it has to acclimate and the new leaves will usually look better. Can you give us a close up of the pup? - If it is that piece coming off the trunk - it looks like it might be a pup to me (from this distance).
brycast!
09-30-2009, 04:06 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24152&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24152&ppuser=6183)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24153&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24153&ppuser=6183)
the thing hat was growing next to it was just grass so i pulled it out.
Jananas Bananas
09-30-2009, 04:44 PM
Thank you Bry. That sticky outie was where a leaf had been cut off. Your pstem looks healthy. It may be getting too much heat from the combination of the sun, the floor, and wall. You might try setting it on dirt and in partial shade for a while and see how the new leaves look. And give it lots of water especially if it is hot and dry where you are. :)
brycast!
09-30-2009, 05:02 PM
Okay. Thanks for the advice and I'm gonna get to that... Hopefully it won't die on me... I live on the north side of California... Like 45 min away from San francisco...
LilRaverBoi
09-30-2009, 05:10 PM
For future reference, I'd leave the leaves on (wow...that sounded funny, huh?) even if they are falling limp downward. They are still making food for the plant as long as they're still green so I leave all mine on till they turn brown/dry up. It might not look pretty, but it's probably slightly better for the plant. Looks like it'll come out of it just fine though with proper watering....pseudostem looks healthy still.
frog7994
09-30-2009, 05:47 PM
what is your location? How long has it been in the pot ?
brycast!
09-30-2009, 06:33 PM
what is your location? How long has it been in the pot ?
its bin in the pot for almost 2 and a half weeks...
frog7994
09-30-2009, 07:19 PM
I would keep it out of direct sun for 2 months and watch for new growth I put any new pups I get under my mago tree.
brycast!
09-30-2009, 07:37 PM
I would keep it out of direct sun for 2 months and watch for new growth I put any new pups I get under my mago tree.
Okay I'll move it some where where the sun won't be hitting it all the time. Then i'll post a pic of it so you guys can let me kno if it Is good there or not...
brycast!
09-30-2009, 07:41 PM
Looks like it'll come out of it just fine though with proper watering......
So how many times a day am I suppose to water and how much water? I don't wanna over water it or not giv it enough water... I'm watering it once a day in the a.m every other day... Is that good or do I need to giv it more water?
Abnshrek
09-30-2009, 09:46 PM
pups come like crazy using rooting solution...
Blake09
09-30-2009, 09:51 PM
I just have to ask, what kind of banana plant is that?
The p-stem looks good, in a few weeks it should look better. Did you just get the plant?
:)
brycast!
09-30-2009, 11:03 PM
I just have to ask, what kind of banana plant is that?
The p-stem looks good, in a few weeks it should look better. Did you just get the plant?
:)
i'm not even sure what kind it is... and yes i did just get the plant... like 2 1/2 weeks or maybe 3 weeks ago... and the plant looked great... but then the leafs started to dry up... maybe because of too much sun or idk... maybe very little water?
brycast!
09-30-2009, 11:05 PM
pups come like crazy using rooting solution...
where Can I get this rooting solution? i would really like to put some on my plant!:D
LilRaverBoi
09-30-2009, 11:30 PM
So how many times a day am I suppose to water and how much water? I don't wanna over water it or not giv it enough water... I'm watering it once a day in the a.m every other day... Is that good or do I need to giv it more water?
Watering is never based on a regular schedule (for optimal purposes). Basically, wait till the soil is dry not only on the surface, but below the surface, then give it a decent soaking. Well-draining soil is recommended for bananas. That way, even if you give them a lot of water, it's never too much (as the excess will drain away). But once again, just wait till it's dry....then water. It's never a 'I water every _____ days' type of thing....check daily and water as necessary. Certain plants outside I DO water most days, but again...not a 'scheduled' thing....as necessary.
brycast!
09-30-2009, 11:35 PM
Watering is never based on a regular schedule (for optimal purposes). Basically, wait till the soil is dry not only on the surface, but below the surface, then give it a decent soaking. Well-draining soil is recommended for bananas. That way, even if you give them a lot of water, it's never too much (as the excess will drain away). But once again, just wait till it's dry....then water. It's never a 'I water every _____ days' type of thing....check daily and water as necessary. Certain plants outside I DO water most days, but again...not a 'scheduled' thing....as necessary.
ooh... okay! lol... so water when necessary.. got it.. so i should wait for the soil to be dry all the way or nearly all the way? lol sorry for all the questions. it's just that im new to this.. i really do appreciate it though, Thanx!
LilRaverBoi
10-01-2009, 12:01 AM
Well, don't let it sit bone dry for a long duration. Basically use your judgment. If it's in a pot, you can tell by the weight how dry it is. If it's in the ground, you can either dig a little, or you can use Patty's method (dowel pushed in the soil to test moisture at deeper depths...works for pots great as well! (thanks Patty!!!)). It doesn't have to be TOTALLY dry...but decently dry. Just let it dry out (subjectively) before watering it again. There's no real scientific measurement (empirical/objective) for the level of dryness....but let it get pretty dry before watering again...that's the main idea.
brycast!
10-01-2009, 12:10 AM
Well, don't let it sit bone dry for a long duration. Basically use your judgment. If it's in a pot, you can tell by the weight how dry it is. If it's in the ground, you can either dig a little, or you can use Patty's method (dowel pushed in the soil to test moisture at deeper depths...works for pots great as well! (thanks Patty!!!)). It doesn't have to be TOTALLY dry...but decently dry. Just let it dry out (subjectively) before watering it again. There's no real scientific measurement (empirical/objective) for the level of dryness....but let it get pretty dry before watering again...that's the main idea.
oh okay... well it was in a pot but now its on the ground... im gonna post a pic of it tomorrow so u guys can chek out the new spot... see if its a good spot for it...:)
Abnshrek
10-01-2009, 02:46 AM
I use Light Green rooting stimulator.. its @ Lowe's here and the PX
Abnshrek
10-01-2009, 02:50 AM
Rooting stimulator in the liquid gallon form.. I used it on my Raja for a week a half and now it has three pups just like that.... I used it on my namwah for a month it had 6 pups.
brycast!
10-01-2009, 03:28 AM
Rooting stimulator in the liquid gallon form.. I used it on my Raja for a week a half and now it has three pups just like that.... I used it on my namwah for a month it had 6 pups.
Wow!!! That's a lot of pups!... I'm going to look for sum of that stuff. And hope to get sum pups soon! :D
brycast!
10-01-2009, 02:03 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24180&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24180&ppuser=6183)
Is This a good spot for it? it gets sun in the morning and shade at noon..
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24179&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24179&ppuser=6183)
Blake09
10-01-2009, 02:09 PM
Rooting stimulator in the liquid gallon form
Can you post a site where you got it from, I cant find much...
:confused:
Blake09
10-01-2009, 02:10 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24180&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24180&ppuser=6183)
Is This a good spot for it? it gets sun in the morning and shade at noon..
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=24179&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24179&ppuser=6183)
cute puppy, seems like a good place to me. I water my banana plants when they get dry about an inch or 2 down.
frog7994
10-01-2009, 02:44 PM
if that was my banana i would get mulch around that plant.
brycast!
10-01-2009, 02:53 PM
if that was my banana i would get mulch around that plant.
What is mulch? Where can I get it?
frog7994
10-01-2009, 03:59 PM
oh I though every one knew what mulch was> in general it is partially decomposed vegetative material from wood chips grass clippings and leaves from trees.
brycast!
10-01-2009, 04:05 PM
oh I though every one knew what mulch was> in general it is partially decomposed vegetative material from wood chips grass clippings and leaves from trees.
lol... okay... i have a whole bunch of leafs on the ground from this oak tree that's right next to my house... can i just put some of those on there?
Abnshrek
10-01-2009, 04:20 PM
Oak is some of the best leaves to use around a banana since they have a high acidicy rate and they banana's that stuff up.... no doubt. Its better than any mulch unless its from a fresh ground stump(stump grinder) they are good too.
brycast!
10-01-2009, 04:57 PM
okay... ill just put some of those leafs on where the banana plant is... so what exactly is this stuff suppose to do?
Abnshrek
10-01-2009, 06:35 PM
I use the green leaves when I drop branches off my 2 oaks. You use them like mulch they break down and help retain water.
frog7994
10-01-2009, 06:35 PM
helps retain moister and maintain root temp too. So many things to say but it very good for the Bananas. They love it.
brycast!
10-01-2009, 10:49 PM
Alright Then.. Thank You All For Your Help And Advice.. I Hope My Banana Plant Will Make It Through The Winter..
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