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rohsen
09-17-2009, 03:57 AM
Dear members,

After experimenting and getting a protocol together i'm about to start taking orders for tc propagated banana. Musa velutina to be precise. however i have not the least idea how much i could ask for. So i'm opening this new thread dedicated to the value of the banana varieties we propagated with blood sweat and tears. so I and other propagators will have an estimate of the worth and can try to get away with as much as we can for our labor!

So the questions are: how much per piece did you pay or did you receive per how many number of tc propagated banana plantlets...

This is the one resource i'm missing on this forum (unless i'm blind and really missed the thread)

regards

Dave
Amsterdam

novisyatria
09-17-2009, 05:38 AM
Dear Dave
its nice to heard you start witc TC bananas. i also conducting TCplants. i have 17 variety TC bananas but i not yet have musa velutina. are you sale musa velutina? i want to buy for mother explant.

regards

sunfish
09-17-2009, 08:24 AM
prices for full flats of 72
splitting flats costs an extra $18, or about 25 cents per plant.
.

Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty'************************** $0.88
Alocasia 'Portora'********* $0.95
Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles' $1.20
Colocasia esculenta 'Elena' $1.50
Ensete ventricosum Maurelii**************** $2.00
Musa Basjoo $1.50
Musa Beccani
Musa Bordelon $1.50
Musa Double $1.50
Musa Dwarf Namwa $1.10
Musa Dwarf Orinoco $1.10
Musa Dwarf Red Green $1.10
Musa Ebun Musak $1.50
Musa Glenn $1.50
Musa Glui Kai $1.50
Musa Gran Nain $1.15
Musa High Color Mini $1.15
Musa Ice Cream $1.15
Musa Kru $1.50
Musa Manii
Musa Margarita $1.00
Musa Misi Luki $1.50
Musa Praying Hands
Musa Raja Puri $1.10
Musa Rose
Musa Rowe Red $1.25
Musa Red Iholene
Musa Siam Ruby $2.50
Musa Sumatrana X cross $0.95
Musa Thai Black $2.00
Musa Truly Tiny $1.15
Musa White Iholene
Xanthosoma sagittifolium



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novisyatria
09-17-2009, 08:46 AM
musa velutina?

sunfish
09-17-2009, 08:50 AM
You might check Agri Starts Inc.

Richard
09-17-2009, 09:32 AM
here:

Agri-Starts, Inc. - Availability (http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm)

rohsen
09-17-2009, 09:50 AM
Richard,

I just browsed your plantsthatproduce website,
I'm mightily impressed, do you have any experience in micro-propagating babaco?

Too bad all off you guys are on the other side of this globe....

dave

Richard
09-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Richard, do you have any experience in micro-propagating babaco?

Nope. Macro-propagation of babaco is very quick and easy.

jmoore
09-17-2009, 02:27 PM
I think we have to keep in mind agristarts must TC thousands of plants and that is why they are so cheap per plant, economy of scale and all that.

If you're talking about a few TC plants to sell to hobbyists like us then it has to be the cost of the equipment and chemicals plus your time which will be considerable.

It has to be in the region of 7 - 10 euros/pounds/dollars per plant. I'd be willing to pay that for something rare like a musa rubinea or similar. :-)

Blake09
09-17-2009, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=sunfish;97360]prices for full flats of 72
splitting flats costs an extra $18, or about 25 cents per plant.
QUOTE]

what are spliting flats??

Richard
09-17-2009, 02:57 PM
what are spliting flats??

Read about it here: Agri-Starts, Inc. - Availability (http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm)

alah
09-18-2009, 05:02 AM
Too bad all off you guys are on the other side of this globe....

dave

Most likely the other way around...

Ueberwinden
09-18-2009, 02:21 PM
splitting flats is when you get 2-4 different varieties in a flat. So you have to get a minimum of 18 of a variety for a total of 72 plants in a tray.

Michael

Blake09
09-18-2009, 04:52 PM
prices for full flats of 72
splitting flats costs an extra $18, or about 25 cents per plant.
.

Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty'************************** $0.88
Alocasia 'Portora'********* $0.95
Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles' $1.20
Colocasia esculenta 'Elena' $1.50
Ensete ventricosum Maurelii**************** $2.00
Musa Basjoo $1.50
Musa Beccani
Musa Bordelon $1.50
Musa Double $1.50
Musa Dwarf Namwa $1.10
Musa Dwarf Orinoco $1.10
Musa Dwarf Red Green $1.10
Musa Ebun Musak $1.50
Musa Glenn $1.50
Musa Glui Kai $1.50
Musa Gran Nain $1.15
Musa High Color Mini $1.15
Musa Ice Cream $1.15
Musa Kru $1.50
Musa Manii
Musa Margarita $1.00
Musa Misi Luki $1.50
Musa Praying Hands
Musa Raja Puri $1.10
Musa Rose
Musa Rowe Red $1.25
Musa Red Iholene
Musa Siam Ruby $2.50
Musa Sumatrana X cross $0.95
Musa Thai Black $2.00
Musa Truly Tiny $1.15
Musa White Iholene
Xanthosoma sagittifolium



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Are you selling these :woohoonaner:, or are they just prices that you would sell them at If you had them??

:D

sunfish
09-18-2009, 05:04 PM
Those are Agri- Starts prices.

Dalmatiansoap
09-18-2009, 05:12 PM
Hahaha, minimum number of plants for Agri starts export to Croatia is 1008 :).
No TC for me :(:nanadrink:
:woohoonaner:

Richard
09-18-2009, 05:24 PM
Hahaha, minimum number of plants for Agri starts export to Croatia is 1008 :).
No TC for me :(

Actually, there are large TC propagation nurseries in Germany, Israel, India, ...

Dalmatiansoap
09-19-2009, 03:11 AM
Thrue Richard
But according to some of their menagers I talked to they do banana TC only in US.:nanadrink:
:woohoonaner:

maesy
09-19-2009, 12:55 PM
Ante,
Agri Starts has a minimum order of one tray with 72 plants. They are saying of only one varierty, but after asking kindly for sending me two trays with up to 10 different varieties, it was no problem.
I made two orders, but that was 5 and 6 years ago.

Marcel

jmoore
09-19-2009, 01:36 PM
I'm sure they would ship to Europe you'll just have to pay for a phyto certificate. If you can find a market for the 70 odd plants you'll have left over then you could make a bit of money.

Might be worth asking in the European section if anyone wants to go in with you.

maesy
09-19-2009, 01:41 PM
That's exactly what I did. I sold them on e-bay.
But the expenses for shipping to switzerland and the phyto was something between 200$ and 300$!

Marcel

Dalmatiansoap
09-19-2009, 02:41 PM
This is what they answered to me in March:
"Hello Ante,

We have a minimum order of 1008 plants. It can be mixed species. I have no idea what the shipping cost would be until I receive an order, complete with address, phone number, ship date, and requested plant species. Then I must check with our state inspector to make sure all the species are OK to ship into Croatia, or if they need an import permit or other necessary paperwork ahead of shipping. Let me know what you’d like, and the rest of the info, and we can start up."
Dont need to go with more details. Right?
:woohoonaner:

Richard
09-19-2009, 03:18 PM
True Richard
But according to some of their menagers I talked to they do banana TC only in US

Tissue culture of ornamental and edible bananas is being done commercially in dozens of countries. The companies in Germany and Israel are the closest to you that I know of.

Gabe15
09-19-2009, 08:27 PM
I've just visited a lab where they sell banana plants for .04 - .06 USD each. Its all about how much money you have to put in, and then how much of a profit you are looking for. Basic business as I understand it.

Blake09
09-19-2009, 08:29 PM
I've just visited a lab where they sell banana plants for .04 - .06 USD each. Its all about how much money you have to put in, and then how much of a profit you are looking for. Basic business as I understand it.

lol, you are in a banana plant haven!

hmmm I wonder how much it would cost to send one out here??

Gabe15
09-21-2009, 04:48 AM
lol, you are in a banana plant haven!

hmmm I wonder how much it would cost to send one out here??

I think you have to buy them by the 1000s and I doubt they ship outside of China, maybe not even out of Guangdong province. It was a really nice operation though, they were very efficient and had some clever time saving/money saving tricks.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23512&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23512&ppuser=5)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23513&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23513&ppuser=5)

BB73
09-21-2009, 12:30 PM
Hi everybody,

in this thread you mentioned TC nurseries in Europe. Do you have any links to the companies websites? It'll be interesting how much they charge here in Europe and how much MOQ is. 72 per veriety doesn't sound like to many pieces.

Thanks

Richard
09-21-2009, 03:40 PM
Hi everybody,

in this thread you mentioned TC nurseries in Europe. Do you have any links to the companies websites? It'll be interesting how much they charge here in Europe and how much MOQ is. 72 per veriety doesn't sound like to many pieces.

Thanks

Most sales in commercial agriculture do not involve websites. Find a knowledgeable plant and/or seed broker in your area and they should be able to help you.

sandy0225
09-22-2009, 08:53 AM
I've never seen them growing out in bags like that. Sounds like a real good way to cut costs.

Blake09
09-22-2009, 05:11 PM
and a good space saving Idea

:D

planetrj
09-23-2009, 02:57 AM
That is crazy tissue culturing. I love it. I'll leave that to the experts. I can't even imagine the intense work these people must be doing. I'll love my few varieties and leave it at that! LOL

Blake09
09-23-2009, 06:00 AM
lol, Ill be doing it too in a few years...

anyone think the EVERYTHING PLUS Everything Kit above plus PVC cleanbox and handheld pH meter.. Plus shipping.
*Note: members who already have the DVD will get the book "Plants from Test Tubes" in place of a second DVD
Prices
Non-Member $280.00 HTCG Member $250.00

is a good deal??

Dalmatiansoap
09-23-2009, 06:07 AM
Just think how many plants U can get for same money. If U dont attend to do that for living....
:woohoonaner:

Dalmatiansoap
09-23-2009, 06:21 AM
I think you have to buy them by the 1000s and I doubt they ship outside of China, maybe not even out of Guangdong province. It was a really nice operation though, they were very efficient and had some clever time saving/money saving tricks.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23512&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23512&ppuser=5)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23513&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23513&ppuser=5)

To make this shure:
Musa basjoo jap. Faserbanane wiha 7 Pflanzen in vitro on eBay (end time 17-Oct-09 20:42:32 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Musa-basjoo-jap-Faserbanane-wiha-7-Pflanzen-in-vitro_W0QQitemZ200385117775QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Haus_Garten_Gar ten_Blumen_Pflanzen?hash=item2ea7e23e4f&_trksid=p3911.c0.m1)
Just look at the price
what do U think now?

:woohoonaner:

51st state
09-24-2009, 04:28 PM
I bought a load from this guy a couple of years back, they were excellent.

If anyone wants to get into TC'ing certain species/varieties in Europe, then count me in. please PM me. I have a couple of interesting mother plants :-) for someone who knows what they're doing.

The other thing I would suggest is that someone with access to genetic material (from bioversity international, for instance) could put some of the rarer species into much wider circulation, which can only be a good thing right? Yes, you do have to pay a small % as a commercial royalty but thats no different to royalties on many plants.

As what our American friends would call 'hobbyists' :ha: it is unlikely that we will ever collectively get up to volumes that would interest commercial TC growers. It's a case of sorting it within the .org community I guess.

sandy0225
09-25-2009, 06:24 AM
back to the original question, yes, I think you could make money at it if you got some plants going and sold them by mail order, or as walk-in customers in your area if it's that hard to get plants there. Supply and demand can cause some pretty nice niche markets. If a plant is very hard to find, then everyone wants it--once they figure out you have it! So you do have to be a little patient for people to find you have these kind of things. But that sounds good for someone just starting out with the tissue culture because like anything else you're learning at, you'll probably have limited stock at first--while you learn what you're doing.
So do a little research and find out which plants are hard to find in your potential market area so have some idea where to start. And make sure you know how to grow out those plants so that you can have your customers achieve success--so they will tell others. That's the most reasonable priced advertising you can get, and also the best.
I was thrilled to hear a customer this spring say, "I was at the mall and I overheard a lady telling another lady about your unusual tomato plants and I had to come out and get a few"

frog7994
09-27-2009, 04:33 PM
I like Agi star but it does not look like they are produceing any ediable pineapple plants to which i'm looking for.