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Blake09
09-11-2009, 02:12 PM
I just got some super small nanners for a gift, this this bunch fits in your hand!! The fruits are about 3in long!! The bag that they were in said that they are sweat... so does anyone know know what type of banana plant makes these nanners? I have some size references in the pictures...

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22781&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22781&ppuser=5852)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22782&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22782&ppuser=5852)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22783&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22783&ppuser=5852)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22784&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22784&ppuser=5852)

Aney Ideas on what kind of banana plant makes these nanners??

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Blake09
09-11-2009, 03:30 PM
I ate one, it tasted sweat almost like a red apple. They have a yellowish center, not like a normal wightish-yellow.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22785&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22785)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22787&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22787)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22789&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22789)

In back row in the center. Comparing size to a normal banana.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22788&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22788)

The small banana on the left compairing to a normal banana bunch on the right.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=22786&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22786)
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Gabe15
09-11-2009, 04:15 PM
They are Musa 'Nino', also commonly called 'Sucrier', there are many other names for them though too.

LilRaverBoi
09-11-2009, 04:44 PM
LOL...leave it to Gabe to come in here and tell you EXACTLY what you have in detail without hesitation. Props, once again bro!

capthof
09-11-2009, 04:51 PM
They should be Manzano or apple bananas.
Most of the time you find them in Latino or Asian markets.
The plants are susceptible to Panama disease.
the Manzano is one of my favorites.
I have several growing in my yard now.
My neighbor has several and regularly graces me with some of his.
As with any fruit the store bought ones are not as good as home grown.
Scott

Birdie
09-15-2009, 12:27 PM
They are Musa 'Nino', also commonly called 'Sucrier', there are many other names for them though too.

i agree wt gabe....most probably sucriers...but sucriers do come in many varieties nowadays...

planetrj
09-15-2009, 03:58 PM
They should be Manzano or apple bananas.
Most of the time you find them in Latino or Asian markets.
The plants are susceptible to Panama disease.
the Manzano is one of my favorites.
I have several growing in my yard now.
My neighbor has several and regularly graces me with some of his.
As with any fruit the store bought ones are not as good as home grown.
Scott

Scott,
I was about to say that they are Manzano. I have a mat of it now, and it always has these apple flavored bananas *hence the name 'apple banana'.
I think it's a very fast maturing one as well, which usually is ready to pick in about half the time of many others.

Enjoy!

supermario
09-16-2009, 08:03 AM
Scott,
I was about to say that they are Manzano. I have a mat of it now, and it always has these apple flavored bananas *hence the name 'apple banana'.
I think it's a very fast maturing one as well, which usually is ready to pick in about half the time of many others.

Enjoy!

I agree. If they have an apple taste to them, they are manzano. As far as I know, they are the only variety of bananas with that characteristic.

Here is some info copied from:
Six Most Popular Types of Bananas | HealthMad (http://healthmad.com/nutrition/six-most-popular-types-of-bananas/)

-Manzano Banana
The Manzano banana is short and chubby with a mild strawberry-apple flavor, and the skin is black when it’s ripe. It has a chunkier and heavier appearance than traditional banana. This banana is usually grown in Asia, South America, Mexico, Caribbean, and Africa, which also known as Apple banana.

Baby/Nino Banana
Baby/Nino banana is about three inches long. When they are ripe, they turn bright yellow and have a rich, sweet flavor, and creamy texture. This is one of the smallest and sweetest bananas around. It is only 3 inches long, and a native of Colombia. It is an excellent source of heart-healthy vitamin B6. This baby banana can be baked, sauteed, broiled, and even grilled.-



However, I do not agree with manzano's being black when ripe. You DO want to see some black on the skin before you eat it, but not entirely black. If eaten when greenish/yellow with no black spots or cracks, the bananas will be VERY starchy and inedible. I usually wait to see the skin crack.

Blake09, did your little bananas show the above mentioned characteristic?

Here is a photo of some I bought at the store the other day. They are commonly sold in all grocery stores here. They will not be ripe for another 2-3 days.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/damethod/manzanobananasstore.jpg

CValentine
09-16-2009, 12:00 PM
Some WONDERFULLY DELICIOUS baby bananas I picked up yesterday @ .99 cents a pound.
Cost me .59 cents! :)
They were so yummy!!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23127&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23127)

Remind me again please...which banana plant do I grow to get these little beauties???!!!

Thanks! :) ~Cheryl

supermario
09-16-2009, 02:11 PM
Some WONDERFULLY DELICIOUS baby bananas I picked up yesterday @ .99 cents a pound.
Cost me .59 cents! :)
They were so yummy!!
Remind me again please...which banana plant do I grow to get these little beauties???!!!

Thanks! :) ~Cheryl

It says 'baby' on the sticker... so I guess it's the below mentioned baby/nino bananas.

planetrj
09-17-2009, 02:33 AM
I do not agree with manzano's being black when ripe. You DO want to see some black on the skin before you eat it, but not entirely black.

Akk! I've been down that road. IMHO Manzanos OR Niño's taste terrible when they get too black. :( I've had to give them to the dogs because they taste too much like an overripe mango. Not good. Black spots, definitely. Black and no yellow - garbage.

chong
09-17-2009, 12:31 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=23127&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23127)

Remind me again please...which banana plant do I grow to get these little beauties???!!!

Thanks! :) ~Cheryl

The M. Glui Kai.

waleeed12
03-25-2016, 05:19 AM
They have a yellowisThey have a yellowish center, not like a normal wightish-yellow.h center, not like a normal wightish-yellow.

Akula
06-01-2018, 10:32 AM
Found some baby bananas in the fruit section at my local Publix on 9th Ave for any locals reading. They were in the section with the plantains. First time I have seen them in our area. The brand is Chiquita and the label says Manzano from Columbia. The hands of about eight were completely green when I bought them a week ago. Just now turning yellow. I understand that they should be brown to eat but decided to test a yellow one with a few spots. Uckkk! Not that I have actually eaten one but it tasted like a dusty, raw potato. I guess I will have to wait another week.

I'm use to waiting about two-three days to consume an avocado but waiting ten - fourteen days between purchase and consumption of a manzano is ridiculous. How does Chiquita plan to sell much of these things? Consumers who eat this thing (probably a high percentage are Mothers purchasing for their toddlers) when its yellow are going to be very disappointed.

HMelendez
06-01-2018, 10:54 AM
Found some baby bananas in the fruit section at my local Publix on 9th Ave for any locals reading. They were in the section with the plantains. First time I have seen them in our area. The brand is Chiquita and the label says Manzano from Columbia. The hands of about eight were completely green when I bought them a week ago. Just now turning yellow. I understand that they should be brown to eat but decided to test a yellow one with a few spots. Uckkk! Not that I have actually eaten one but it tasted like a dusty, raw potato. I guess I will have to wait another week.

I'm use to waiting about two-three days to consume an avocado but waiting ten - fourteen days between purchase and consumption of a manzano is ridiculous. How does Chiquita plan to sell much of these things? Consumers who eat this thing (probably a high percentage are Mothers purchasing for their toddlers) when its yellow are going to be very disappointed.




Awesome!.....If you want or next time, put them inside in a paper bag with an apple!......It will speed up the ripen process!.....



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Akula
06-01-2018, 11:01 AM
HMelendez, thank you for the reminder about the apple trick! I've always tried to keep the store bought cavendash as far away from the apples as possible! Haha. I've got about five manzano fingers left and just put them in a plastic bag with an apple. Thanks again!

Tytaylor77
06-01-2018, 04:29 PM
I never cared a lot for manzano. 99% of sold manzano will be labeled as “Manzano” or “apple banana”

The smaller tiny fingered ones from Dole, Chiquita, etc are “baby bananas” and as Musa Expert Gabe said long ago are Musa Nino. From my experience growing the dwarf “Musa nino enano” or “Musa dwarf nino” they are such a strong grower! You can’t beat the fruit! Very very sweet! Just what I like! Blows away any manzano in my opinion!

beam2050
06-01-2018, 05:40 PM
I never cared a lot for manzano. 99% of sold manzano will be labeled as “Manzano” or “apple banana”

The smaller tiny fingered ones from Dole, Chiquita, etc are “baby bananas” and as Musa Expert Gabe said long ago are Musa Nino. From my experience growing the dwarf “Musa nino enano” or “Musa dwarf nino” they are such a strong grower! You can’t beat the fruit! Very very sweet! Just what I like! Blows away any manzano in my opinion!
thanks I have been wondering what they were. looks like el nino will be one of my next target bananas.

HMelendez
06-02-2018, 06:07 AM
Also, I prefer Musa Niño to a Manzano any day!.....Very sweet fruit!.....Sometimes, I find them at Publix Supermarket!....



My Dwarf Niño it is growing nicely!....She picked up the growing rate since I trans-planted her to the ground!....Currently, she is pushing out the new cigar leaf!.....I can't wait to taste my own grown Niño fruit!.....


Pictures from 05/31/2018....
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/902/42479408391_3d215ee6c3_h.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1747/42428734152_9b12bab411_h.jpg





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Tytaylor77
06-03-2018, 11:19 PM
They come up so early! In the spring I’m talking around the same time as the Orinoco and namwa! Very surprising since they are an AA which do NOT like cool weather! These are so close to fruiting in a single season for me. They bloom about 8-9’. The first year planted they flowered just as winter hit. This year is messed up. So next year will be the test! Which I am very excited for!

HMelendez
06-04-2018, 06:42 AM
They come up so early! In the spring I’m talking around the same time as the Orinoco and namwa! Very surprising since they are an AA which do NOT like cool weather! These are so close to fruiting in a single season for me. They bloom about 8-9’. The first year planted they flowered just as winter hit. This year is messed up. So next year will be the test! Which I am very excited for!



Ty bro,




I know you have everything sorted out!.....You will have The Dwarf Niño flowering, blooming and harvesting the fruit in a single season, hopefully next year!.....Dwarf Niño it's an amazing Nana grower!.....Since she has been on the ground , my Dwarf Niño has pushed out new leaves very fast!.....She just opened, unrolled the new beautiful green/yellowish leaf!.....Thank you bro for sending me a beautiful, very fast grower Nana Variety!.....:08:




Pictures from 06/03/2018.....

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1742/42495087622_ae28311a35_k.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1725/28673691158_ed0be488e6_k.jpg






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PR-Giants
06-06-2018, 08:11 AM
That doesn't look like a Niño and it doesn't even appear to be a dwarf.

It does look like a beautiful plant, congrats. :woohoonaner:

http://www.bananas.org/f12/links-help-identify-your-banana-18465-4.html


Ty bro,




I know you have everything sorted out!.....You will have The Dwarf Niño flowering, blooming and harvesting the fruit in a single season, hopefully next year!.....Dwarf Niño it's an amazing Nana grower!.....Since she has been on the ground , my Dwarf Niño has pushed out new leaves very fast!.....She just opened, unrolled the new beautiful green/yellowish leaf!.....Thank you bro for sending me a beautiful, very fast grower Nana Variety!.....:08:




Pictures from 06/03/2018.....

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1742/42495087622_ae28311a35_k.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1725/28673691158_ed0be488e6_k.jpg






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Tytaylor77
06-06-2018, 11:56 AM
Haha
More attacks by PR Giants imagine that!

Musa Nino Enano.
Source is USDA Tars In PR and if that is the case then your entire collection is incorrect!
Plus this clone has been verified at flowering.

There is absolutely no way to ID a plant that is this small.

You should go ID the “real deal” FHIA-01 Goldfinger that you sold to Hector. It’s looking like an off-type to me. You should also check your Musa cocos clone, it grows to 11’+

Also often times plants in the tropics look different due to disseses and other problems. Your plants could look “different” due to this. You should have your commercial plantation checked ASAP! Especially how you send plants bare root and with soil. With TR4 found in Jamacia we must all be vigilant!!

Hector thanks for your picture! When it fruits you will have confirmation that it is a Niño enano!

PR-Giants
06-06-2018, 07:04 PM
There is a very simple scoring system.

Most people should realize the dwarf nino is

a dwarf
Group AA
Subgroup Sucrier

If it's not a dwarf then it can't be a dwarf nino.
If it's not an AA then it can't be a dwarf nino.
If it's not a Sucrier then it can't be a dwarf nino.

Only one of those statements need to be true for it not to be a dwarf nino.

Then all anyone needs to do is look at the photos.
If someone isn't familiar with the descriptors of a dwarf nino then access a passport online.

This doesn't identify the cultivar but it does eliminate other Groups and Subgroups and obviously if you eliminate AA or Sucrier it can't be a dwarf nino.

In most banana growing countries even children can identify some Groups and Subgroups just by looking at them even if the plants are young.



Haha
More attacks by PR Giants imagine that!

Musa Nino Enano.
Source is USDA Tars In PR and if that is the case then your entire collection is incorrect!
Plus this clone has been verified at flowering.

There is absolutely no way to ID a plant that is this small.

You should go ID the “real deal” FHIA-01 Goldfinger that you sold to Hector. It’s looking like an off-type to me. You should also check your Musa cocos clone, it grows to 11’+

Also often times plants in the tropics look different due to disseses and other problems. Your plants could look “different” due to this. You should have your commercial plantation checked ASAP! Especially how you send plants bare root and with soil. With TR4 found in Jamacia we must all be vigilant!!

Hector thanks for your picture! When it fruits you will have confirmation that it is a Niño enano!

Tytaylor77
06-06-2018, 11:55 PM
Plant has been potted for over a year. Hector will keep the forum updated and we will see when it flowers.

I know what I grow and so does USDA Tars PR.
My reputation speaks for itself and my customers know that and know my standards.
I’m done. Don’t have time for your childish attacks and games. So keep replying as I’m sure you will.

1margarette
06-07-2018, 12:27 AM
Oh wow, they look so cute this is the very first time that I have seen a small banana three.

HMelendez
06-08-2018, 06:04 AM
*****I won't enter here in a dispute or an argument!.....From my part this ends here!......I don't have time for that!*****




Ty bro, thank you for sent me an awesome Dwarf Niño Nana plant!....I know that you got your Dwarf Niño Nana Variety (In spanish Niño Enano) from TARS and that she have the true, correct ID, as Dwarf Niño!....As you mentioned, your standards and your reputation speaks by itself!....I'm posting pictures from TARS to use as reference, for comparison, as she grows, flowers, blooms, etc......I will keep the forum updated!.....



Pictures of Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) from TARS!.....

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1751/41938161054_7cc65e643a_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1733/41756399735_b4c3411292_c.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1732/41756364265_2f5f517939_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1749/41938114904_37d69f4772_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1751/28782227538_6028082dff_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1740/41938054084_f2a2c724dd_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1730/42655751771_d947b803d3_o.png

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1751/41756400645_544e2d042c_o.png







A couple of update pictures from Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) taken on 06/07/2018.....She is pushing out the new cigar leaf!....Keeps growing fast!....

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1735/28778745668_06aaf6cc1f_k.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1742/42655004541_7e69435620_k.jpg







*****Woohoo!......Updates will keep coming!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:

beam2050
06-08-2018, 11:41 AM
you need to put a sign on her saying; MI HIJA NINO ENANA. for us English speaking folks that's a tongue twister. :ha:

for all you English speaking folks it would be pronounced; meha nino enana. [my daughter; mi hija]

HMelendez
06-08-2018, 11:50 AM
you need to put a sign on her saying; MI HIJA NINO ENANA. for us English speaking folks that's a tongue twister. :ha:

for all you English speaking folks it would be pronounced; miha nino enana. [my daughter; mi hija]


You did it again!.....That is why you are Master Beam!.....LMAO!......hahahahahaha!......


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beam2050
06-08-2018, 12:06 PM
You did it again!.....That is why you are Master Beam!.....LMAO!......hahahahahaha!......


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I had to change my translation from miha to meha. :ha:

course if into calling your bananas by grandfather, father, son. it would be; meho nino enano. could be a worse twister. miho nino enano, meha nina enana.

HMelendez
06-09-2018, 04:47 AM
*****Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) Update!*****



All pictures from 06/08/2018....



Yeehaaa!......Something unexpected just happened!.......Dwarf Niño started to pup already!.....Amazing!.....Must be all the frequently banana nectar (rain)!.......Also, she opened a new beautiful green/yellowish bigger leaf!......She is pushing out new leaves very fast now!......Look at all that space behind the Dwarf Niño (Pictures 3 and 4)!......Woohoo!......As long as I have space for one more, Nanas will keep coming!......:08:



https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1742/41963692654_3e1c0b2bb1_k.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1752/42681661571_fea7afc8f9_k.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1748/40872714720_00e48b3089_k.jpg

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*****Updates will keep coming!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:

beam2050
06-09-2018, 08:04 AM
the rains been wonderful. but don't say anything to tytalor or the other texicans in his area. its been fun one day you look and the next, where did you come from. I have pups popping up everywhere.

HMelendez
06-10-2018, 10:46 AM
Woohoo!.....Went yesterday (06/09/2018) to Homestead Marketplace in South Florida and look what I found!......


The much beloved Orito, an AA Classification baby Nanas from Ecuador!....Very sweet baby Nanas!.....One of my favorites!.....I'm trying to bring this baby Nana Variety to grow in continental US!.....Trust me, I will!.....:08:



Pictures from 06/09/2018.....

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1750/40892974680_4258ba0f77_h.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1736/40892996150_4b315c1578_h.jpg

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PR-Giants
12-13-2019, 08:45 AM
Dwarf Niño keeps pushing out the flower bud!.....I have no doubts that flower is from an AA Nana Variety!




Dwarf Niño flower bud is out!....It should start positioning down now!......I have no doubts is an AA Nana Variety!......Look at the flower!.....


Hector, I told you when you first posted a photo of the Dwarf Nino that Tytaylor77 sent you that it was not a Dwarf Nino.

Everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana was not a dwarf, and if it's not a dwarf it can't be a Dwarf Nino.

If you had simply measured a leaf blade and divided the length by the width you would have realized that it was not a dwarf.

Unfortunately it's very common for some seller's to ship the wrong bananas and that's why buyer's should take a few minutes to learn the basics about identifying a banana.

http://www.bananas.org/f12/links-help-identify-your-banana-18465-4.html

Next, you should have looked at your banana for signs of balbisiana.

The Dwarf Nino is an 'AA' diploid and has no signs of balbisiana.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has balbisiana in it so it can't be a Dwarf Nino or any other 'AA' diploid or 'AAA' triploid.

Next, you should try to determine the amount of balbisiana it has.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has a heavy amount of balbisana and most likely is an 'ABB' type.

There was never a chance that your banana was a Dwarf Nino because everything pointed to an 'ABB'

It should never have taken you over a year to figure that out.

The next step was to figure out which 'ABB' cultivar Tytaylor77 sent you.




Also, the "supposedly" prior Dwarf Niño turned out to be the Musa Monthan!


It was not surprising that your 'AA' Dwarf Nino turned out to be an 'ABB' Monthan.

cincinnana
12-14-2019, 01:16 AM
Great looking fruit..:woohoonaner:

Botanical_Bryce
01-10-2020, 08:52 PM
Keith, I have the Nino you speak of. I was confused when I received it. Looked orinoco like from day one. HMelendez wouldn't address anything in my post. Only PM. Gabe sent me a PM as well with photos I could use to identify. The plant is cold hardy like balbisiana, has very long petioles like balbisiana, and the petioles are closed like balbisiana but maybe a tad open when young. Here is my original post http://www.bananas.org/f12/need-identity-info-nino-dwarf-nino-48588.html. It was this plant and this topic that made me lose interest in this forum.

Hector, I told you when you first posted a photo of the Dwarf Nino that Tytaylor77 sent you that it was not a Dwarf Nino.

Everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana was not a dwarf, and if it's not a dwarf it can't be a Dwarf Nino.

If you had simply measured a leaf blade and divided the length by the width you would have realized that it was not a dwarf.

Unfortunately it's very common for some seller's to ship the wrong bananas and that's why buyer's should take a few minutes to learn the basics about identifying a banana.

http://www.bananas.org/f12/links-help-identify-your-banana-18465-4.html

Next, you should have looked at your banana for signs of balbisiana.

The Dwarf Nino is an 'AA' diploid and has no signs of balbisiana.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has balbisiana in it so it can't be a Dwarf Nino or any other 'AA' diploid or 'AAA' triploid.

Next, you should try to determine the amount of balbisiana it has.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has a heavy amount of balbisana and most likely is an 'ABB' type.

There was never a chance that your banana was a Dwarf Nino because everything pointed to an 'ABB'

It should never have taken you over a year to figure that out.

The next step was to figure out which 'ABB' cultivar Tytaylor77 sent you.




It was not surprising that your 'AA' Dwarf Nino turned out to be an 'ABB' Monthan.