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Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 05:00 PM
Okay, got your attention? I know this should probably be posted in another section, but I wanted as many eyes to see this as possible. I need everyone's input!!!!! Someone contacted me with an idea that may be fun for alot of people on this forum. But, there could be some problems with it and I wanted to get everyone's input on it that cared to give me their two cents worth.
Anyway, here goes:
The banana chain would go something like this. Say 100 banana (or some amount) bucks to post..first person posts a banana plant they are seeking, second person to post send a corm to the first person and then posts a banana corm they are seeking. Third sends a corm to 2nd and posts a corm they are seeking and so-on. The person sending the corm would be responsible for shipping charges.
Okay, there would have to be some kind of rules in place and it would only work as long as folks kept it going. The chain would be broken if no one was willing to share a banana that someone else was looking for. I also think that what the person was looking for would have to be fairly common and not something like an aeae, which by the way, I would gladly pay at least 5000 bananabucks for!!! Anyway, I know for us climatically challenged folks, the growing season is drawing to a close fairly soon, so we would either have to have some way to overwinter, or jump in the chain come spring.
I think this could be fun, but I know there can be some problems with it. Please let me know what you think and if you would be interested. Any and all input is appreciated.

Jack Daw
08-13-2009, 05:12 PM
Okay, got your attention? I know this should probably be posted in another section, but I wanted as many eyes to see this as possible. I need everyone's input!!!!! Someone contacted me with an idea that may be fun for alot of people on this forum. But, there could be some problems with it and I wanted to get everyone's input on it that cared to give me their two cents worth.
Anyway, here goes:
The banana chain would go something like this. Say 100 banana (or some amount) bucks to post..first person posts a banana plant they are seeking, second person to post send a corm to the first person and then posts a banana corm they are seeking. Third sends a corm to 2nd and posts a corm they are seeking and so-on. The person sending the corm would be responsible for shipping charges.
Okay, there would have to be some kind of rules in place and it would only work as long as folks kept it going. The chain would be broken if no one was willing to share a banana that someone else was looking for. I also think that what the person was looking for would have to be fairly common and not something like an aeae, which by the way, I would gladly pay at least 5000 bananabucks for!!! Anyway, I know for us climatically challenged folks, the growing season is drawing to a close fairly soon, so we would either have to have some way to overwinter, or jump in the chain come spring.
I think this could be fun, but I know there can be some problems with it. Please let me know what you think and if you would be interested. Any and all input is appreciated.
That's a nice idea. Go on...

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 05:14 PM
I like to do things like this. My only problem is some of my bananas are not marked. Well I guess a lot I don't know what they are. I have a lot of ones that are the same bananas. I don't throw bananas away. I have gave 8 away this year and about 6 of them were 4ft tall. So I am willing but it could be a problem for me because of unmaked bananas. You see what everyone else wants to do.

Bob
08-13-2009, 05:16 PM
What agreat idea!!!:goteam: You hit it on the head as far as most of us in the colder spots not wanting to ship or chance recieving during winter. There's not much for common bananas that I'm still really wanting (10,000 banana bucks for a "Pisang Ambon"!) but will gladly send what I have and maybe give away what I receive. Then again another D. Brazilian would be nice! As long as everyone's honest and prompt could be a great long lasting feature here.

If the general consensus is positive I'll post 100 banana bucks for one of Vickies unmarked pups that have a parent that flowered.

sbl
08-13-2009, 05:35 PM
How about trying to set up a closed loop (or several closed loops)--where you have people list what they want and what they have for trade--then where there are matches put together as many as possible.

For example: # 1 wants Dwarf Namwah, has Raji Puri, Dwarf Cavendish
# 2 wants Lady Finger, has Dwarf Red, Orinoco, Dwarf Cavendish
#3 wants RP, has Saba, Misi Luki, Lady Finger
#4 wants DC, has DN and manzano

Then #4 could send to #1, #1 to #3, #3 to #2, # 2 to #4.

fishoifc
08-13-2009, 05:39 PM
sounds good lets do that.

Steven Valys
08-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Sounds awesome! Unfortunately, I would have to buy some pups to send along as the beginning of this growing season was unforgiving here in the Northeast!

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 06:01 PM
I like to do things like this. My only problem is some of my bananas are not marked. Well I guess a lot I don't know what they are. I have a lot of ones that are the same bananas. I don't throw bananas away. I have gave 8 away this year and about 6 of them were 4ft tall. So I am willing but it could be a problem for me because of unmaked bananas. You see what everyone else wants to do.

It would kinda be hard for you to get in the chain if you don't know what type of banana you have, even it Bob would be willing to pay bananabucks for one. You would have to be able to provide someone that is posting a wanted banana before you could even get into the mix. Think we need to ponder this idea some more...

How about trying to set up a closed loop (or several closed loops)--where you have people list what they want and what they have for trade--then where there are matches put together as many as possible.

For example: # 1 wants Dwarf Namwah, has Raji Puri, Dwarf Cavendish
# 2 wants Lady Finger, has Dwarf Red, Orinoco, Dwarf Cavendish
#3 wants RP, has Saba, Misi Luki, Lady Finger
#4 wants DC, has DN and manzano

Then #4 could send to #1, #1 to #3, #3 to #2, # 2 to #4.

I like the idea, but wouldn't a closed loop limit what is available? Also, I would think someone would be stuck without real quick. Something to think about, though. This may be something folks on here that are close can do themselves if they haven't already... Neat concept though...

tarheeldiver
08-13-2009, 06:17 PM
I think the chain sounds like a great way to expand everyone's selection of banana's at little cost.

conejov
08-13-2009, 06:23 PM
I think some of the newbies like me that are just starting might be stuck out if we dont have something but are still looking how would that work? Other wise I think this is a great concept Give me a few months as my nanner collection grows!

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 06:29 PM
I think some of the newbies like me that are just starting might be stuck out if we dont have something but are still looking how would that work? Other wise I think this is a great concept Give me a few months as my nanner collection grows!

You would have to wait til someone posted something that you had and could share before you could take your turn at posting what you wanted. I know it would be tough on some, but I promise, it won't take long for you to have loads of different bananas to share.

conejov
08-13-2009, 06:40 PM
Thats what I was thinking. In the three months that I have been active here I've gained four additional nanners so I know it can be done.

proletariatcsp
08-13-2009, 07:05 PM
Isn't that called a pyramid scheme? lol I'm just kidding. I think it could work too since no actual money is changing hands, no one will become greedy or corrupt.

I know I have an unfair advantage of living in an urban part of FL. But you should really hit up Craigslist from time to time. There are often people letting plants go for rediculously low prices.

djmb74
08-13-2009, 07:13 PM
I have a ton of Orinoco's hahaha

:woohoonaner:

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 08:09 PM
" Their Coming To Take Me Away, Ha Ha" we are all nuts over these bananas. I am in zone 6. I don't want to wait until Nov to do this. I have no idea how to do this banana bucks thing.

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 08:10 PM
Isn't that called a pyramid scheme? lol I'm just kidding. I think it could work too since no actual money is changing hands, no one will become greedy or corrupt.

I know I have an unfair advantage of living in an urban part of FL. But you should really hit up Craigslist from time to time. There are often people letting plants go for rediculously low prices.

Only problem with Craigslist is that you don't know much about the person you are purchasing from. I am usually a bit leery of buying online from an individual, but have had NOTHING but great dealings with all the folks I have traded/bought/sold with on here!!! This is THE best place I have found to get plants from and am never dissappointed...

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 08:12 PM
I have a ton of Orinoco's hahaha

:woohoonaner:


You, laugh, but who knows, there might be someone out there on the board wanting one that has bananabucks and a few dollars to cover shipping when its their turn. Ain't nothin' wrong with Orinocos!!! LOL

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 08:18 PM
" Their Coming To Take Me Away, Ha Ha" we are all nuts over these bananas. I am in zone 6. I don't want to wait until Nov to do this. I have no idea how to do this banana bucks thing.

Vickie, check and you should have a few more bananabucks than a few minutes ago... all you have to do is click on "donate" under the person's name and it will come up for you to add a comment and how many bananabucks you want to donate to them. Let me know if you got your stipend

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 08:26 PM
okay sways 100 more, THANKS

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 08:30 PM
Why does it have check by my banana bucks instead of donate now?

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 08:33 PM
Not sure Vickie, but I sent you a few bananabucks to try the feature out and you should have something showing where someone donated bananabucks to you...

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 08:33 PM
orinoco why are you laughing, I don't have that one?

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 08:36 PM
Vickie, the donate button is on the right hand side of everyones posts in a thread, right under the screen name, and join date, etc. Check button below banana bucks at the top of the page is for you to check and see any transactions with your banana bucks.

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 08:36 PM
yes it says 100 but then check thing came up, and now says min of 500. I just want out of it? I have no clue what I am doing. DAH! Donate is not there anymore.

figafita
08-13-2009, 08:38 PM
[quote=djmb74;91027] I have a ton of Orinoco's hahaha



If you have a ton can you send me one for postage? You will have a ton minus one :))

figafita
08-13-2009, 08:41 PM
djmb74 " I have a ton of Orinoco's "



If you have a ton can you send me one for postage? You will have a ton minus one :)

How do you copy what somebody else said?

Vickie H.
08-13-2009, 08:52 PM
Okay I put 500 savings to try to get rid of this check thing by my banana bucks instead of donate. I am stressed. I hate it when things like this happen. I am leaving before I SCREAM. LOL! Night all.

Randy4ut
08-13-2009, 09:05 PM
Back To The Subject At Hand, Please!!!!!

Magilla Gorilla
08-13-2009, 11:59 PM
I like the idea a lot. I am looking for a few more varieties (you can never have too many). If you are new and don't have many varieties you could purchase small plants at many nurseries for under $20.00 and trade them for more interesting varieties. I had one member who wanted Misi Luki. I did not have it so I went and purchased it and traded it for a variety I didn't have. I also picked up a second and now have Misi Luki. It all worked out in the end. This could be fun.

sbl
08-14-2009, 07:34 AM
djmb74 " I have a ton of Orinoco's "



If you have a ton can you send me one for postage? You will have a ton minus one :)

How do you copy what somebody else said?

The "quote" button at the bottom of each post. Then you add whatever you want and post again.

As for the idea at hand, I have another suggestion--everybody that has a pup to trade submits their pups to a list. Once we have a list of available pups, we open it up for bids (banana bucks)--the winner gets first choice and is the only one that pays. The one he chooses from get the second choice, then the one he chooses from is third and so on. This way it doesn't get stalled waiting on someone to come up with a variety that nobody has or wants to part with.

Rmplmnz
08-14-2009, 07:21 PM
This is a great idea and will promulgate some of the more obscure varieties and give everyone exposure/opportunities to try some more unusual bananas (if not now in the future as more members expand their collections = more available pups in the future).

I am looking forward to seeing what species are out there....


Kofi, Haa, Tuugia, etc.,

Like to see some of these:

BANANA COOKING VARIETIES

* BALONGKAUE - (pronounced ball long coo) is a cooking type, which grows about 12 ft. tall. The fruit has a bluish/green outer appearance, with white flesh. Is a very sturdy and attractive plant that can be eaten out of hand when very ripe.

* CARDABA - A Philippine cooking variety that is a truly an attractive plant with a bluish hue to the fruit and very white pulp. The fruit is stubby and irregular in shape but can get quite large. Height 10-12 ft.

* DWARF & TALL ORINOCO - Named from the region in South America near the Orinoco river where they grew profusely, they are also called the horse banana or "burro". These angulated cooking bananas are also a tasty treat out of hand when fully ripe. Their versatility make them popular in many regions of the world. Height 5-6 ft. dwarf & 12-14 ft. on the tall.

* ELE ELE - A Hawaiian cooking variety that is known for its very dark pseudostem. Sometimes called the Hawaiian Black, it gets a purplish hue, especially in more acid volcanic type soil. Full sized fruit. Grows about 14 ft. tall.

* HUA MOA - A Polynesian cooking banana that is short and stubby but packed with flavor. These make wonderful tostones and maduros as well as other banana recipes. The large full leaves and fat, rounded fruit make this a great looking plant. Height about 12 ft.

* MAIA MAOLI - This 12-14 ft. tall plant of the Polynesian cooking variety has delicious flavor and statuesque elegance. It is mostly green with slight red colors in the pseudostem giving serious competition to the other cooking varieties.

* MONTHAN - A cooking type from South India. Similar to the Bluggoe or Orinoco in size and versatility. Height about 10-12 ft.

* PELIPITA - A dark green plant that grows about 10-12 ft. tall and produces a cooking banana that is angulated in shape. It is a hardy plant resistant to disease, which is why it is used as a progenitor for many other hybrids.

* POPOULU - A 12-14 ft. Polynesian cooking banana with superb flavor. Its short stout fruit and dark green foliage make it a magnificent looking specimen as well as great tasting treat.

* RED IHOLENA - This versatile variety is not only beautiful, with the underside of the leaves being a soft burgundy color, but also used for eating out of hand, dehydrating and cooking. The others in the Hilahila sub group of Polynesian cooking bananas include the WHITE IHOLENA & HA'A. The Ha'a is the shortest of the group and produces fruit that are yellowish from the onset, making it difficult to determine when to harvest. (Do not use color as the only indicator to pick your fruit). The White is devoid of the burgundy coloration but produces a similar fruit. All are excellent for a multitude of uses. (Heights: Red: 10-12 ft., White: 8-10 ft., Ha'a: 6-8 ft.)

* SABA - The "sequoia" of the banana plants with huge pseudostem (range 12-24" diameter) and heights ranging from 16-20 ft. here, however clients have reported even greater heights in other areas of the country. The wonderful tasting cooking banana makes the best tostones we have ever eaten. A sturdy plant and somewhat cool tolerant. (A must for the collector).

* KOFI - From Papau New Guinea, a member of the Iholena sub group which is a combination cooking-dessert banana that rated highest in the TREC tasting tests.

* MAQUENO - A cooking banana from Ecuador, has a solid greet stout trunk with chubby 4-5 inch fruit. Height 12 ft. The plant is resistant to sigatoka and other diseases making it a good substitute in countries where this is a commercial problem.

BANANA COOKING VARIETIES (http://www.geocities.com/transaustin/banana.html)

:bananas_b:lurk:

austinl01
08-14-2009, 10:13 PM
Randy, I think this would be a fun swapping game for most of us. I think one rule must be that no one can ask for an expensive or very rare cultivar because this would bring the game to a halt. I suppose we would give a time limit of several days (or a week) for someone to respond. Otherwise, the person asking for such banana would have to change their wish to sometime else. Spring and summer would be the best time to get this going. I'm afraid it's too late in the season now. Just my thoughts about it. Cool idea!

Randy4ut
08-15-2009, 05:48 AM
Like the ideas and still have lots of things swirling around in my head about this. Trying to make sure it works for the majority of folks. What about having two of them. One for more of the common bananas, and one for the more obscure varieties, like Chris suggested. This idea was actually intended to help expand available cultivars more than being a cheap source of common bananas. Do not want to exclude the new folks that do not have many varieties, but the more common varieties can usually be bought anywhere and are easier to find. I know I am going back and forth even in this post, and as you can tell, I have mixed feelings about it.
Okay, I would not be able to handle the two chains, but could handle the one. Would anyone be willing to work up the details and manage the chain for the more common varieties? If someone would take this on, I will start up the chain for the more experienced banana folks that are looking for the more obscure varieities...
HELP, MY MIND IS EXPLODING!!!!

Rmplmnz
08-15-2009, 08:45 AM
I agree with Randy
Several considerations:
• We would like the contest to be available to the majority of the members.
• As with any plant “exchange” one is required to have plants in order to participate in an exchange.
• There have been/will be other contests for the members who are just starting out (and many members help others just starting out within their cities).
• There are many reliable sources to purchase the more common varieties from for a reasonable price.
• Not sure if the board has a Mission statement; but if it does or will I would imagine implicit or explicit within the Mission Statement would be to promulgate the “diversity” and “distribution” of many banana species.
• In the long run everyone will benefit as the more obscure varieties will be more readily available.
• I am not referring to the most rare (Ae Ae, Fei, etc.,) or those requiring the strictest of climates to thrive (Musa Ingens); rather some of the less common i.e. Haa, White Iholene, Pisang Jari Buaya, Kofi. Ele Ele. Etc.,

sbl
08-15-2009, 10:39 AM
Randy, I think this would be a fun swapping game for most of us. I think one rule must be that no one can ask for an expensive or very rare cultivar because this would bring the game to a halt. I suppose we would give a time limit of several days (or a week) for someone to respond. Otherwise, the person asking for such banana would have to change their wish to sometime else. Spring and summer would be the best time to get this going. I'm afraid it's too late in the season now. Just my thoughts about it. Cool idea!

That's a good idea, putting a time limit on the "wish".

Perhaps we could try a couple different ideas, but I agree it would be best to do this in spring or summer.

amiart
06-21-2012, 05:03 PM
Usually the plant trading sites have a Have and want list.. maybe something a little more sophisticated is in order i.e. a database tie-in of all the names of nanners and the people that have them and those that are looking for them.. sorta like a date matching idea.. i.e. you got's I wants... sorta idea.

maybe for the newbies they could trade tools, books etc for bananas etc.. just a thought..l

Bananaman88
06-22-2012, 09:33 AM
How in the world did I miss this thread back in '09???

flaflowerfloozie
09-28-2012, 11:28 PM
How do we get notified of contests and exchanges?
No I'm probably not ready to dive in just yet, since I have very little, only 3 types so far.
I still would like to follow what is going on though...I'll live vicariously threw you all till I have something more worthy than Orinoco, Helen's hybrid and Velutina

Rmplmnz
10-07-2012, 09:27 PM
How do we get notified of contests and exchanges?
No I'm probably not ready to dive in just yet, since I have very little, only 3 types so far.
I still would like to follow what is going on though...I'll live vicariously threw you all till I have something more worthy than Orinoco, Helen's hybrid and Velutina

If you find yourself in Tampa stop by and load up....

flaflowerfloozie
10-08-2012, 12:29 AM
OH, don't you tempt me...:ha: LOL
I have a friend in St. Pete I go see a couple times a year.
Suppose to meet her this month sometime for her birthday.
Can't believe I am still up looking for Ensete seeds