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damaclese
08-04-2009, 07:00 AM
this is my rant thread one Big Question why is it that the ORG has thousands of Members that view on a regaler basis but the same 15 people are they only ones that ever comment? ya I'm talking about You the ones reading this right now like we don't know your out there! it shows up on the who's on line pages and we can see the number of people that have viewed. get of you lazy butts and start participating. we need your help. we need your observation. we want to get to know you. i know some of you are just shy we wont hurt you Please we are not savages. why are you here if your not going to participate? is there any point to that? if your not going to start commenting then for Gods sake get up from the computer turn it off and get out there and do something with your lives Now don't you all feel Better LOL
I know i do

I hope i don't get in trouble for this i just needed to get that off my chest its been bothering me for a long time and after my Dod died i just feel i should clear the decks and start fresh so i mite be posting a bunch of stuff thats been on my mind for a wail

Bananaman88
08-04-2009, 07:04 AM
What??? We're not savages??? Speak for yourself! Just kidding- I agree 100%. Though I am very happy with those that do participate, I think there could be more participation from the membership-at-large. Some people just don't get into posting. Not much we can do about it.

alexizhere19
08-04-2009, 10:35 AM
Hey, Im tryin

I took a little while to get started but as you can see im up to 183 posts. But I do wish people would at least chime in from time to time. I try to give my tips and advice where i can be comfortable with what im saying.

thanks

alex

justjoan
08-04-2009, 10:55 AM
I'm new to the banana gig and if I don't post I read and I am learning. This is a very valuable site for me, lots of great folks here, so as I continue to get my feet wet in this neighborhood I will post on occaision, but more importantly I am gaining knowledge and maybe thats what lots of folks are doing. I think some folks may be shy or even afraid to put themselves out there, sort of like when you move into a new neighborhood, you kind of stick to yourself for a bit until you know your way around. :waving:

just j
08-04-2009, 12:27 PM
not much time to sit and talk on computers gotta keep the nanas growing stong trying to get fruit this year in wisconsin

justjoan
08-04-2009, 12:43 PM
just j,
I just reviewed your picture gallery as you are a close enough neighbor, great pics, great Banana's and encouragement for me! I learned something about how to over winter just from your pic's, thanks!:waving:

damaclese
08-04-2009, 02:00 PM
Hey, Im tryin

I took a little while to get started but as you can see im up to 183 posts. But I do wish people would at least chime in from time to time. I try to give my tips and advice where i can be comfortable with what im saying.

thanks

alex

your doing a grate just the fact that you commented shows that this rant doesn't apply to you thanks keep up the good work

damaclese
08-04-2009, 02:02 PM
I'm new to the banana gig and if I don't post I read and I am learning. This is a very valuable site for me, lots of great folks here, so as I continue to get my feet wet in this neighborhood I will post on occaision, but more importantly I am gaining knowledge and maybe thats what lots of folks are doing. I think some folks may be shy or even afraid to put themselves out there, sort of like when you move into a new neighborhood, you kind of stick to yourself for a bit until you know your way around. :waving:

im taking about people that have been mebers here for years that never comment your doin grate keep up the good work

sbl
08-04-2009, 03:43 PM
Reminds me of Ber Rabbit and the Tar Baby! This is a great site but like Ber Rabbit it does get to you when you get no response!

john_ny
08-04-2009, 03:56 PM
I'm trying, Pauly. 643, in a little over two years.

CValentine
08-04-2009, 04:38 PM
Thank you Paulo,

I, at the fear of sounding 'DUMB', attempt to converse and contribute what little I know, not worrying in comparison to what the 'Great Brains' here know.
I am not here for the 'Great Brains', or the thousands of members, I am here for the knowledge that lies within this interactive Forum as a whole, drawing what knowledge I can, share what knowledge I have and develop and pass it on to my children and interested others.
If I don't ask and research, I can't find out, if I don't risk sounding/looking stupid...how can anyone help me, correct me or point me down the right path?
For me - to develop friendly and professional relationships from the Org is just a plus!!

((Removed Rant))

Thank you for this Org & for the opportunity to share what I can & draw from the knowledge/contributions of others that choose to share and interact!!!
You all are great!!! :) ~Cheryl

"Those who think they know it all have no way of finding out they don't.."
— Leo Buscaglia

"Each of our acts makes a statement as to our purpose."
— Leo Buscaglia

Dalmatiansoap
08-04-2009, 06:16 PM
Bravo Cheryl,
this is what I mean whan I say that Im a bit short in English but this is just as I would express myself:)
:woohoonaner:

adrift
08-04-2009, 06:46 PM
:lurk:


... or at least press the "thanks" button when someone uploads a pretty picture.

Bananaman88
08-04-2009, 07:43 PM
No one should hold back on asking a question for fear of sounding "dumb". That's how we all learn. We ALL started out as newbies at one point. I do think that most of our members here are very accomodating when it comes to answering questions of new-comers. I certainly don't feel as if I know all there is to know about growing bananas, but I enjoy sharing what I do know and I still learn something new on here almost every day.

alexizhere19
08-04-2009, 08:00 PM
Since its an open thread,

I think that I had enough knowledge of The genus Musa when I became active that I was more waiting for times when I can answer culture Questions and comment on Members photos. I know alt of "big time" members and my goal is for me to contribute to become respected around here. So many great people contribute so much I want to become one. I hope new members post their questions and people who just hang around would say thanks for the read or useful info. Hey i post sometimes post to say thanks also.

alex

jjjankovsky
08-04-2009, 08:08 PM
how about somebody answering new questions posted...including mine?

forums are good for several things...social, informational, political, etc...

as a new member,...show me why i should be a contributor...what you need, other than to shame others,...and what could be collaborative...

you'll get more from a membership by inviting with some sophistication rather than making the readers feel bad or pissed at your arrogance...

Inoneear
08-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Paulo , just picture me sitting across the table from you ,with a Rum in my hand ,happily listening to what you have to say ... and buy a round for the guy above me:bananas_b

mjdsinsacto
08-04-2009, 11:00 PM
... you'll get more from a membership by inviting with some sophistication rather than making the readers feel bad or pissed at your arrogance...

well put.

thanks.

island cassie
08-04-2009, 11:03 PM
Hey Paulo - way to go!!!

island cassie
08-04-2009, 11:10 PM
jjjankovsky - I'm sorry if you feel we have been rude or dismissive. I'm sure no-one would intentionally upset you and I feel most members here are very helpful. How can we help you now?

Patty in Wisc
08-05-2009, 01:49 AM
Joe Real showed me a link to this place from the Citrus Forum in '06 & I just read a lot here. I did not know what the "thanks" meant at the time. I posted a couple questions then...knowing nothing about growing nanas. I never found the "New member" forum, so I didn't post there. Yes, believe it or not, I was shy about posting. I read more than I posted as many ppl do. But, i do know that when I did post a guestion, & someone posted a long explanation of whatever, & I didn't understand, WTF - I stayed away for awhile.
I found that the ppl who know the most info, & gave the best explanations...like Joe Real, Tog (so sorry he's not here anymore), Chong, Gabe, & a few others, give the most info & in a way that won't scare ppl away , as was done to me before.
I think that if someone doesn't have an answer, it's best they don't reply at all with false info - which has been done here - &to me.
I learned alot here just by reading.

Bananaman88
08-05-2009, 07:21 AM
I don't think that Paul meant to offend anyone, just to spur more folks to contribute. Thanks to everyone for their comments on this topic thus far.

CookieCows
08-05-2009, 09:45 AM
I'm definitly guilty as charged :lurk: right down to the "lazy butt" thing :ha:
Not only here on the forum but working in my yard. Ok Pauly kudos for the wake up call!


And you're so BRAVE to risk being slammed for the greater good to all

It's not a forum without members participating....

Thanks,
Deb

conejov
08-05-2009, 11:40 AM
Are talking to me? well Are you?!!?! HUh?? HUH? HUh?.. well Ill have you know ....your right I need to contribute more.

damaclese
08-05-2009, 12:09 PM
maybe i should say a word or two about were I'm coming from. first off no one should feel specifically that my thread is pointed directly to them or any one for that fact. maybe I'm being mean i don't know for sure. iv been a member here for some time. only a few people ever comment on my threads. mostly i just tell people what I'm up to. i don't ask that many question because i read the other members threads and get most of my answers from them. however i live out in the desert south west in Las Vegas. theirs not many Banana growers here only a few. i feel some what isolated here. I'm originally from the Kansas City area as such i like community spirit I'm Midwestern to the core. i love people and i want to communicate and have others communicate with me. recently my Dog died now for most of you thats probably not a big deal. but for me its been a devastating experience. again i feel isolated so maybe I'm guilty of wanting more from people then they can give. i need this contact its important to belong some were. i love gardening and i like the kind of people that garden so the org is a natural for me. so when i post thread and i see that in one case over 1200 people have looked at my thread and only 4 ever cared to comment. that makes me feel like I'm either nuts people are laughing at me or don't feel what we are discussing is important. i feel bad about that. its just one example there are numerous so being that I'm a bit down i wanted to start fresh and find out whats on your alls mind. so i did use a stile of communication that was a bit provocative. but all say this it defiantly worked you came alive even if it was out of a sense that you were being singled out. which you where not. i think most of the people i was talking about still have not commented on this thread. i don't believe they ever will. you see I'm one of the people that are singled out as being a maul content most of the time because i want things to be better. i want ever one to get what they need and to be fulfilled as much as possible. with out diving of in to a hole nother subject We as Americans cannot go on this way any longer. we don't treat each other with respect any more. so life is tough. we shy away we don't comment we just act like passive voyeurs reading other peoples threads but never really giving of are selves. so i ask again why are we here? if its not to interact. now i hope no one thinks that this is about them specifically its not. if your still think it is then your just looking for a fight were there is nun

I may not agree with you all all the time. hell I'm even wiling to admit that theres people here i don't particularly like. but i will never just sit back and passively take from you with out giving of my self back. it my promise and my commitment as a fellow traveler on this plant. i only hope that in the past present an future that i never give the impression that i don't want to hear from you because i unequivocally do. i don't care how small a comment you want to make all always take you seriously. i will always answer you honestly and from my hart .
and to the best of my abilities i will always share my Bananas with any one that asks. its just good manners!

thats were I'm coming from thanks for letting me rant. it was vary Cathartic for me i feel allot better knowing that you all know what I'm going threw.
Paulo

PS for those of your that are new its important for me to explain that i have dyslexia so some of my wighting mite be a tad difficult to read and for this i am sorry

Bananaman88
08-05-2009, 02:47 PM
Well said, Paul. You've always got a buddy in me. I think most folks knew you didn't mean anything bad with your initial post. Most of us who've been on here a while have a good feel for you and your style. Drop me a line anytime you need to talk.

justjoan
08-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Hey Paulo, I see by your signature that its 108 where you live there in Nevada, as we would say here in Minnesota UFF DAH! , and no matter that it is a dry heat, that's HOT. I knew where you were coming from in your thread, and I must admit that this is not native to just this forum, happens a lot and I am gulity of checking in on other forums to just see what's happening and not respond to stuff myself. I think in everyones life things are busy and folks just don't always have the time they would like to sit down and read through articles and comment. Keep cool!:waving:

Jack Daw
08-05-2009, 04:21 PM
damaclese: Paulo, you are writting too long posts. :) I'm not strong enough (emotionally, spiritually, ...) to read them til the end. As I guess you didn't appeal to me in the original post, I would like to come to your defense.

Sorry that this will be so long: BLA BLA BLA...

So let's not argue here (everyone), don't give people a chance to be mad. We are all here because in some way, we like to grow the same thing - bananas. And if someone doesn't want to interact with others, it's his/her choice.
You don't have to accept it as an opinion/choice, but you should learn to respect it and don't judge people.

And those who posted their first post in week(s) to this thread should really think about why they joined here in the first place. The forum is free to view even if you're not logged in/registered.

jjjankovsky: I would very much like to help you, but the fact that I haven't answered to your question is, that I either didn't notice it or don't know the answer. It might as well be possible, that no-one knows the answer.
In the end, we all are (I think there's no exception) just banana growing hobbyists, not professional, university educated agricltural engineers with banana plantain growing specialization. :nanadrink:

Peace.

Patty in Wisc
08-05-2009, 09:08 PM
My last post here was at about 2a.m. & will someone tell me what the heck I was trying to say???:) I think I was writing in my sleep ha ha. Y'know, in 06 & 07 I only posted a few times. I did read here but I just didn't know what to say. Sometimes it's best that way (if ya don't know what to say, don't say anything) LOL...I'm a good example of that! I was much busier then too & didn't have the time.
Paul, I think you really miss your good plant buddy, Scot! :)

banfan
08-05-2009, 10:41 PM
...have no fear. We are all here not only to ask questions and say welcome, but to lend an ear, and make a comment that might be helpful. Thanks for sounding off! ----->>>>> Signed, guilty as charged!!!!

damaclese
08-06-2009, 10:30 AM
it was definitely nice having a Banana Buddy even if he did live 20mil away i would have him over for dinner so i could show off as a chef LOL i never did get to cook with any Bananas from the Garden but I'm sure this year will be the year the Large Ice cream (Blue Java is almost 12ft tall i know they get to 20 but it was potted for over a year and a half) OK now I'm a thread wrecker
LOL

thanks for all the comments

buzzwinder
08-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Paulo, I don't see how anyone could be offended by your comments, I have noticed in the last two years the same things, some of our old regular posters have become to busy with there lives, I've been one for the last several months,(started going to school) I haven't been in a class room in 37 years, so my learning curve has been even higher than when I first joined the Org. I do however drop in every other day or so to check up on my Org family and welcome newcomers, and that stuff about your writing style, Dude, I have always understood your meaning in your posts and appreciate your knowlegde and input. :bananas_b