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marenmar
07-28-2009, 02:16 PM
Hi,
I have some lovely Balbisianas up for trade:2745:. Someone interested?

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19880><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=19880&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19985><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=19985&size=1 border=0></a>

More pics are in my gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1194) :lurk:
My profile (http://www.bananas.org/member-marenmar.html) lists the number of pups (other species as well) which I have for trade. (Got that one from you JackDaw!)

Marguerite

Jack Daw
07-28-2009, 02:46 PM
Hi,
I have some lovely Balbisianas up for trade:2745:. Someone interested?





More pics are in my gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1194) :lurk:
My profile (http://www.bananas.org/member-marenmar.html) lists the number of pups (other species as well) which I have for trade. (Got that one from you JackDaw!)

Marguerite
Glad I was of any service, Marguerite. :D I too got that idea from some1 else... well, we learn the entire life. You have indeed nice plants. If only I were into seeded varieties as much as edible. :D
But I believe that those nanas will find a nice and warm home soon. :03:

Dalmatiansoap
07-28-2009, 06:13 PM
Bravo Marguerite
Let the trades roll
:woohoonaner:

penJ.
07-28-2009, 07:40 PM
Hoi Marguerite.
Do you have orinoco maybe.. anyone?

Jack Daw
07-29-2009, 04:22 AM
Hoi Marguerite.
Do you have orinoco maybe.. anyone?
I maybe will have some orinoco relatives soon and next year should be very frutiful for new Orinoco type plants. :D But other than that nei.

penJ.
07-29-2009, 05:31 AM
Thanks Jack.. If its posible, sign me in for a pup :waving:

marenmar
07-29-2009, 06:07 AM
Hoi P&J, sorry, but I don't have orinoco. All I have for trade is mentioned in my profile. I'd like to have an orinoco too :) Good luck finding one!

YAKUZA
07-29-2009, 06:59 AM
Hoi P&J, sorry, but I don't have orinoco. All I have for trade is mentioned in my profile. I'd like to have an orinoco too :) Good luck finding one!

a musa florida variegated looks nice hehe. send them 2 Belgium :woohoonaner:

marenmar
07-29-2009, 12:56 PM
Hehe, sorry, I forgot to mention It hasn't pupped yet ;)

penJ.
07-29-2009, 02:20 PM
Hoi P&J, sorry, but I don't have orinoco. All I have for trade is mentioned in my profile. I'd like to have an orinoco too :) Good luck finding one!

Jij ook succes :waving:

penJ.
07-31-2009, 05:07 AM
Anyone trading-selling saba, orinoco, dwarf orinoco pups? anything :03:

Dalmatiansoap
07-31-2009, 07:25 AM
Well, looks like I have to start new mision soon, too:ha::ha::ha:.

Targets:
-Dwarf Namwah
-Dwarf Brazilian
-California gold
-California cold hardy
-maybe some other dwarfs :) (give me some ideas folks!)
-blahhh, anything for zone 9:ha::ha::ha:

Action, now!
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw
07-31-2009, 07:44 AM
Well, looks like I have to start new mision soon, too:ha::ha::ha:.

Targets:
-Dwarf Namwah
-Dwarf Brazilian
-California gold
-California cold hardy
-maybe some other dwarfs :) (give me some ideas folks!)
-blahhh, anything for zone 9:ha::ha::ha:

Action, now!
:woohoonaner:
I will hold you the first pup on my Dwarf Brazilian. ;)
Also if I have enough Pahari Kela pups, I might be able to trade for California Gold and California Cold Hardy next year. ;)
Dwarf Namwah is my target plant because of Bob's experience in his zone. Woohoo.
Good luck. At least we share the same goals. ;)
Also a friend of mine will soon send me from CR a pup of Musa paradisiaca. It is some cultivar with tiny seeds (almost not visible) that grows everywhere in Turkey and isn't protected during winter at all.
I'm really looking forward to it.

Anyone trading-selling saba, orinoco, dwarf orinoco pups? anything :03:
Saba is difficult to come by in Europe and even more difficult to grow here. It's a massive, huge, robust plant... ;)
Orinoco and D.Orinoco should be easier.

Jack Daw
08-01-2009, 04:15 AM
Just for the fun Ante and others, I created this list of bananas I could grow in my zone (smaller in pots, larger in ground) for the better part of the year.
They al should be hardy to zone 8 (corm), so this gives them a chance of surviving in case uf unwanted night frost. ;)

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Musa 'Raja Puri' v
Musa 'Red Iholene'
Musa 'Saba (Pisang Kepok) '<o></o>
Musa 'Siam Ruby'<o></o>
Musa 'Comune di Sicilia'<o></o>
Musa 'Super Dwarf Cavendish' v
Musa 'Texas Star'<o></o>
Musa 'White Iholene'
Musa 'Zan Moreno'<o></o>


I also ticked those that I have already and soon there will be a new tick for paradisiaca. ;) :D (I believe it is a French Plantain)

Dalmatiansoap
08-01-2009, 04:24 AM
This is a good list Jack. Corm hardy in 8 means that psteam will died till ground withouth any protection and raise in spring again from corm?
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw
08-01-2009, 05:24 AM
This is a good list Jack. Corm hardy in 8 means that psteam will died till ground withouth any protection and raise in spring again from corm?
:woohoonaner:
Yep. Some varieties have more resistant p-stems, some less. But in general the hardier the corm, the better, because even when the stem dies out, it will still pup and survive.
Some of those I included are more suited to growing in pots, like Cavendishes, High Color Mini and such plants, but it's always good to bear in mind, that the USDA system is created for USA, so it might work different in our climate.
I should be equivalent (with latitudes) to New York City (almsot precisely the same latitude, yet my climate is like that of Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee in summer) and the winter very similar to that of Washington. If it weren't for the Caucassian winds and cold fronts, that escalate in our country, I could grow much wider palette of palms and subtropical plants.

Bear that in mind, that it's not similar. ;)
Not to count on it too much...

Ante, I will show you the work of climate I mean.
Minimal temperatures
2005 = -12°C
2006 = -18°C (now as you see, the cold front came in with full strength from Russia and Ukraine, one in 10 or 15 years frost and it eliminated lots of the plants people had been growing til then)
2007 = -7°C
2008 = -6°C
2009 = -12°C

Don't let the USDA zone classification be a deciding point, more like guiding information. I also made a search on the forum and based on the information I read, I then created this list. It also shows the personal experience of many people in growing these varieties. ;)

Dalmatiansoap
08-01-2009, 06:08 AM
I agree that USDA arent climate zones and conditions cannot be the same in "ours" and "theirs" same zone. For examplle my 9 zone is very low in humidity and most of US 9 are very humid. This last winter was extremly cold and we had -3C for maybe 2-3 mornings and that was real shock. Ice on streets=catastrophy:(. Most of us doesnt even have winter tiers on cars:ha::ha::ha:. But than again is this wind problem :)
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw
08-01-2009, 08:24 AM
I agree that USDA arent climate zones and conditions cannot be the same in "ours" and "theirs" same zone. For examplle my 9 zone is very low in humidity and most of US 9 are very humid. This last winter was extremly cold and we had -3C for maybe 2-3 mornings and that was real shock. Ice on streets=catastrophy:(. Most of us doesnt even have winter tiers on cars:ha::ha::ha:. But than again is this wind problem :)
:woohoonaner:
Funny, the first frost always surprises. :D Our traffic workers always say how ready they are for the first frost and snow, and when we get it, they all sleep. So it's terribly difficult to get to work, school, hospital, anywhere. :D
Nothing can prepare you for that. We had a frost training in driving license examinations (November, the day before was no frost, the day after was no frost, but on 17th there was a strong frost of -4°C in the day and about 40cm of snow, which fell during the night).
17 out of 19 people didn't make the exams. But I managed to. :D I have been car skiing father's car 1 week before that. :D

You see, you don't use winter tires in Makarska, people in Tatras don't use summer tires. :D
But then, most of the illnesses are not present here in winter, so it has some curing effects. At least that.

Also, to the trade, I was assured the get the French Plantain soon, so it will be funny. There are zones in Turkey, which resemble Makarska so much. Hope it will be pupping soon. :D

maesy
08-08-2009, 04:09 PM
I just came back from a short holiday in southern Switzerland. It is a italian speaking cantone and is called Ticino at the other side of the alpes. Only two hours drive from my home. It has a strong subtropical influence with a climate similar like yours dalmatiansoup. It's placed at latitude 46°10'.
Trachycarpus and other exotic plants are already becoming a pest, and can be found in forests, in parks and in any different places close to towns and villages grown wildly.
It is warm, very humid and gets lots of rain that makes the vegetation grow like crazy!
And it's beautiful!!!
Unfortunatly I don't know anybody who's growing eat able bananas. All you can see are huge musa basjoos.
With a bit protection and the right micro climate it should be possible to grow Orinocos and similar cold hardy bananas.
For my self I bought a Lagerstroemia indica that I will plant in my front yard next spring.
To my bananas, I have dwarf brazilian and dwarf orinoco in the ground with about 1 meter of pseudostem, but not much pupping yet.

Marcel

Jack Daw
08-08-2009, 04:34 PM
Needless to say, that Marcel is an experienced grower with years of practice and if he would only post some pics of his lovely garden to his gallery, we would all be delighted. ;)
Nice to hear from you Marcel.
I envy the southern Swiss climate, but in the end, I like my own. Now if only there were some edibles growing well here...

maesy
08-09-2009, 06:03 AM
I don't mind some frosty nights, but temperature below freezing for more than two weeks is just too much. With only short freezes you could handle growing bananas and all our loving plants much easier than with our rough climate.
I will post some pictures soon and let you see what I grow. But don't expect very big plants!
They are all still in their childhood. :pinwheelnaner: :basketballnaner: :kiteflyingnanergif:

Jack Daw
08-09-2009, 09:07 AM
I don't mind some frosty nights, but temperature below freezing for more than two weeks is just too much. With only short freezes you could handle growing bananas and all our loving plants much easier than with our rough climate.
I will post some pictures soon and let you see what I grow. But don't expect very big plants!
They are all still in their childhood. :pinwheelnaner: :basketballnaner: :kiteflyingnanergif:
Oh I'm looking forward to your pics. On teh contrary, I like the temps -7°C whici very common during nights, but those sudden falls above 0°C in winter are dangerous. And waht should I say, when the temps rise in January and February to about 15°C during the day and 5°C during the night? Peaches start to blossom only to freeze later in another frost wave.
I like slow frosts of -3 to -7. Those are most ideal, water freezes, snow freezes, everything freezes and holds temperatures well.
If the temps go above 3°C, snow melts down and then freezes in the night, making it very bad for the roots. :(

Dalmatiansoap
08-09-2009, 10:49 AM
What is snow?

Bob
08-09-2009, 12:05 PM
What is snow?

:coldbanana: oh you're in rare form today! :ha:

Jack Daw
08-09-2009, 12:23 PM
What is snow?
It's that thing that earns in our hills just as much as your beaches in summer. ;) :D

jmoore
09-06-2009, 02:03 PM
OK does anyone want to trade a truly tiny? Or a super dwarf cavendish?

I should clarify that I have these to trade for other things.

bencelest
09-06-2009, 02:17 PM
Yes. I have SDC and DC. What do you have?

Jack Daw
09-06-2009, 04:23 PM
OK does anyone want to trade a truly tiny? Or a super dwarf cavendish?

I should clarify that I have these to trade for other things.
And what would you be interested in?

jmoore
09-07-2009, 08:17 AM
I hadn't really thought about that. Something hardy, something red.

Jack Daw
09-07-2009, 12:26 PM
I hadn't really thought about that. Something hardy, something red.
That pretty much excludes any banana. Either hardy or red.

John1258
07-14-2014, 08:22 PM
Hi,
I have some lovely Balbisianas up for trade:2745:. Someone interested?

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19880><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=19880&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19985><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=19985&size=1 border=0></a>

More pics are in my gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1194) :lurk:
My profile (http://www.bananas.org/member-marenmar.html) lists the number of pups (other species as well) which I have for trade. (Got that one from you JackDaw!)

Marguerite
What do you want in trade ??? And do you have any cold hardy Plants with full size fruit ????? Thanks John