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Old 07-18-2009, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Separating Basjoo Pups

I have 6 pups around my Musa Basjoo, all growing very fast in our high temperatures! I'm eager to remove the tallest one (19 inches) but it also has a sucker. do I remove them keeping them together? I wouldn't mind removing the second tallest if it's not too small (only 12" high...what's the minimum height by the way?) I'm in zone 8b, I figured this was ok to do, giving it time to root in it's new place while the heat's still on! Any additional tips welcome, as this is my first time separating!

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If you are removing a pup, and it has its own pup, you will probably want to keep them together unless after getting them out of the soil they obviously both have strong roots.

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Hi Adrift, yes I have seen this diagram and it's very helpful....thanks! Do you think the second tallest pup is ok to dig up too? Or should I wait a while to grow some more. I have a couple of spots for them and can't wait to get them in!
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Hi Adrift, yes I have seen this diagram and it's very helpful....thanks! Do you think the second tallest pup is ok to dig up too? Or should I wait a while to grow some more. I have a couple of spots for them and can't wait to get them in!
You've got all the time in the world... Let them grow and when they are as tall as you, then remove them. Basjoos reach amazing heights.
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Thanks Jack -I'm actually in the middle of taking the tallest one out. I'll leave the others until they've grown up! In the meantime I hope I'm not ruining my banana right now with the shovel stuck down inside.
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I just finished planting the pup in my front yard rock bed and thanks to MediaHound's great tutorial on how to remove them I'm pretty sure it's all been a success. He said to look for the potato-like looking corm and I saw something like it dangling from the root (a little one mind you) so I hope that's what it was. We'll see what happens. I took pictures, see below. The sucker snapped off in the process, so hopefully it will recover.

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It might be a good idea to wait a month or two at least to let mother's roots recover on the side you cut the pup off. You have pups all the way around the mother. If you cut them all off, you will have cut the roots off the mother -- all the way around. This would be not a good thing (tm). (Sorry for the technical jargon.)

As for the pup's wounded pup, either
1) cut the broken part off (leave the leaves below the fold alone) so that the next new leaf can grow up and out without being bound up. They don't corner well. This might be best if the bend is serious with tearing.

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2) try splinting the bent part, maybe use a couple bamboo skewers and some soft cord. I've had good luck doing this. Use this method if the tissue is folded but not too torn.
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Adrift - great advice thanks. I'm going to leave the remaining pups alone and let the one side of the mother recover. I'll be adding some mushroom compost and sea soil to it in a couple of days, as well to the newly planted pup. Regarding the pup's sucker, it has been torn right through, just hanging by a thread. I'll just leave it to fall off I guess.
I am wondering though, with our incredibly dry hot and sunny weather, should I be shading both plants during their shock period?

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I see you don't have the rocks around the banana which is good. But the heat transfer from the rock bed might cause to much heat for the plant. Make sure to keep it watered often,maybe I just worry to much. I just always want my plants to be happy.
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Thanks blownz281, I hear what you're saying and I love my plants to be happy too. I give it lots of water and spray down the leaves. I've propped an umbrella over the plant on hot hot days, spraying down the rocks to cool as well. I've expressed my concern to the banana experts at my local nursery, about the location I've chosen for the plants and they said they'll love it. I've dug a spot on the grass where I just might replant it, but still pondering that one.

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nice basjoo plant you have there one week ago i planted my basjoo pup it looks like your biggest pup it had its own corm and roots. it has really grown.
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Thanks Shannon! My pup had a little corm the size of a silver dollar and its own roots as well. How big was the corm on your pup? I'm just wondering if mine will grow with such a small corm...I'm assuming its the piece I cut off from the mother plant. That was my intention in the separation process. We'll see. I hope it roots well enough for the winter!
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It was about size of a golf ball. yours should do just fine. i cut 2 in the sping that that dident hardely have any corm on them and they are doing fine. they very tuff plants.
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ah good to know, thanks Shannon. How long does it take for the corm to establish and grow and sprout another pup?
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in about 2 or 3 months weather is mager facter on how long it takes and fertlizing and how much water it gets i fert with miricle grow once a week.
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I have the Miracle Gro too, I'll keep fertilizing it with that. our frost will hit about October or so...hopefully that will be sufficient time to root well.
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Hi Andrei, is that basjoo a СахалиH variant or not? I managed to get one СахалиH basjoo a short time ago and it's rumored to withstand (corm only) temperatures about -25°C. With mulch protection of course. How is your experince?
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Nice pics Andrei, thanks for sharing! I'd love to separate 2 more of mine and pot them up over winter, but I do have a spot for them in the garden, I just don't know if planting them now won't give them enough time to root before the frost.

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Hello! I do not even know for sure, this is a regular Basjoo or Sakhalin. I think that is a regular Basjoo.

A Musa Basjoo Sakhalin leaves very broad, and my usual. It grows year round in the greenhouse, planted in the street does not allow the climate. Night temperatures can fall below 10. I want to get a few plants of this species, and later in the flowering polinate them to obtain seeds.
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