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alexizhere19
06-09-2009, 07:21 PM
Hi,
I was wondering, does anybody know where i can get those 30 or 45 gallon grip lip or regular plastic nursery pots. i really would like to avoid fabric because they are moving alot right now. for some reason it is hard to get these.
thanks
alex :0517: :0519: :0517: :nanadrink: :0519: woo woo woo, pull over
Patty in Wisc
06-10-2009, 10:31 AM
Someone here showed this link.
Blow Mold Containers (http://www.growersupply.com/blowmolcon.html)
I want a couple of the 45 gal pots for only $15.25 each. Best price I've seen so far.
I just looked there again & the pot's too big to ship ups so has to ship by freight truck. May be worth getting a t least a few. Sounds expensive to have shipped but that's all I can do. Can't find anything around here that big - unless I pay $300.00!
Someone here showed this link.
Blow Mold Containers (http://www.growersupply.com/blowmolcon.html)
I want a couple of the 45 gal pots for only $15.25 each. Best price I've seen so far.
I just looked there again & the pot's too big to ship ups so has to ship by freight truck. May be worth getting a t least a few. Sounds expensive to have shipped but that's all I can do. Can't find anything around here that big - unless I pay $300.00!
I just ordered a load of the 25 gallon from them on Saturday. Shipping was close to $50. Still the 8 for under $100 seems cheaper than rubber maid. Have to wonder how expensive a truck would be though.
john_ny
06-10-2009, 01:43 PM
What you people have to do is look in a phone book for a local greenhouse supply, or grower supply, or something like that. Many of these people have regular delivery routes, and may be in your area on a weekly basis, and would deliver for little or no cost, or they might be close enough, so you could drive, and pick up. I used to go to a manufacturer, (they made the containers right there) about a half hour drive from here. I could pick up and, if I paid cash, he would knock about 30-40% off the price. There is a manufacturer, Nursery Supplies, Inc. that makes containers up to 260 gallons. (about 5 feet across) If you can find one of their distributors in your area, you should be all set.
Note to Patty; There is a supplier, right there in Milwaukee, Carlin Horticultural Supplies. I don't know what brands and sizes they carry, but it's a start.
Note to Bob; There are some in our area also. I usually get what I need from K. C. Schaeffer Co., in York, Pa. They come up here every week.
Patty in Wisc
06-10-2009, 04:55 PM
WOW, thanks John! I will look them up. I was told to go to different nurseries & ask for them, but no luck. Even the ones that sell big trees had no pots. Gonna call now.
Patty in Wisc
06-10-2009, 05:27 PM
They are not listed anywhere in the phone books. Used my search engine & found them.
WOOHOO
sandy0225
06-10-2009, 05:40 PM
go to a landscaping place that installs trees and beg them to save a few for you. They often will do this for free unless they see an opportunity and then they'll charge you a few bucks.
john_ny
06-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Like Sandy says, you might be able to get containers from a landscaper. (They usually have to pay to get rid of them) As a grower for many years, I have some landscapers as customers. Once, one asked me if I could use some containers, and I told him that would be fine. He brought me a dump truck full of them, but there were no real big ones. Almost all were 14" (trade 7 gal.) or less.
cowboyup4christ
06-10-2009, 10:08 PM
I found some in our states agricultural paper, if your state has one has lots of ag stuff for sale. guy was going out of business so I got a lot of his old pots, 7,15,26 gal for .10 a gal. bought a pickup truck load.
Patty in Wisc
06-10-2009, 10:32 PM
I went to landscaping places but they had none. I think they wrap tree rootballs in burlap instead of pots.
I posted this before & it isn't here(??)
Dalmatiansoap
06-14-2009, 01:46 AM
OK, call me stupid but I just dont get US pot sizes. Can anybody help me writting dimensions (width, hight...) of like 15, 30, 45 gallon pots. Just to can compare with ours (european).
:woohoonaner:
Arbonaut
06-14-2009, 02:53 AM
OK, call me stupid but I just dont get US pot sizes. Can anybody help me writting dimensions (width, hight...) of like 15, 30, 45 gallon pots. Just to can compare with ours (european).
:woohoonaner:
Google is your friend.
15 gallons ~ 0.057 m^3 ~ (0.38 m)^3
30 gallons ~ 0.114 m^3 ~ (0.48m)^3
45 gallons ~ 0.168 m^3 ~ (0.55 m)^3
(0.264 gallon ~ 0.001 m^3 = 1 l)
Iff I used the right gallon of course.
Dalmatiansoap
06-14-2009, 03:10 AM
Google is your friend.
15 gallons ~ 0.057 m^3 ~ (0.38 m)^3
30 gallons ~ 0.114 m^3 ~ (0.48m)^3
45 gallons ~ 0.168 m^3 ~ (0.55 m)^3
(0.264 gallon ~ 0.001 m^3 = 1 l)
Iff I used the right gallon of course.
Google complicate this.
Just want to know aprox. width and hight in cm or inches. These volume meashures gives me a hadeache
:woohoonaner:
Jack Daw
06-14-2009, 05:39 AM
Google complicate this.
Just want to know aprox. width and hight in cm or inches. These volume meashures gives me a hadeache
:woohoonaner:
It isn't standard is Europe, in Central Europe we have lots of our own suppliers, they kinda make different sizes, range is only in Litres, but the shape can be different (for trees, roses, small plant, shrubs...), for instnce I have about 13 types of different 5L pots. Some of them are narrow and high, some of them are ground-based and pretty large in diamter.
Dalmatiansoap
06-14-2009, 07:22 AM
Someone here showed this link.
Blow Mold Containers (http://www.growersupply.com/blowmolcon.html)
Stupid me!!! :(
This link resolved my problem :)
:woohoonaner:
Patty in Wisc
06-16-2009, 09:03 PM
Ante, I have a pot that is 23 inches across and 17 inches deep. Someone did the math for me & said it's a 30 gal. I also have a 60 gal...it is 33 (or 34) inches wide & 18 inches high.
Richard
06-18-2009, 12:19 PM
The 23" by 17" pots are typically sold as 25 gallon. This is because they taper a bit towards the bottom and pot is never filled to the rim with soil to allow room for watering. If you are able to look at the bottom of the pot, you might a stamp or label with "No. 25" or "#25".
Patty in Wisc
06-18-2009, 06:46 PM
You are wrong AGAIN Richard. My pot is 30 gallons & IS NOT tapered. Funny, my 55 gal rain barrel - drum is 22" across & 37" high - compared to my pot as 23 x17high.
REPEAT: my pot is 30 gal & drum is 55 gal.
Should be deleted for making FALSE STATEMENTS.
Stop trying to correct me.
alexizhere19
06-18-2009, 07:26 PM
Thanks all,
I foung some 15 gallon pots through friends who did their own landscaping. I made th mistake of thinking my 15 gal. was a 30 and the fifteen worked nice. But in good growing i still might need those larger ones. boy it is nice to have an abundance of large containers.
Makin' my way the only way I know how,
But that's just a little more than the law will allow.
Alex:0517:
Gabe15
06-19-2009, 04:07 PM
Let me just say that before start getting too riled up here, US pot sizes are non-standard, and just because something is sold as a certain volume, does not mean it actually is that volume. You may be able to calculate what the actual volume of something is, but that does not mean that it will be sold under that size, not to mention that it all varies by manufacturer.
Check out this link for a bit more info Understanding Container Sizes and Their Volumes - Container Gardening Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/contain/msg071634112151.html)
Patty in Wisc
06-19-2009, 05:37 PM
Thank you Gabe. The pot I mentioned is ACTUAL 30 gal. I have nursery pots that they called 5 gal pots & have #5 printed on them (some) but they don't hold 5 gal. I also have plants in 5 gal buckets & those are actual 5 gal. It can be very confusing - as said at GW from your link. Seems like 5 or 10 gal nursery pots can be different at different nurseries. I have a 60 gal smart pot (fabric) but I will give my friend dimensions & let him figure the actual gallons it holds. I'll bet that european litre pots are different than our litre pots too. In Canada, 5 gallons (Imperial) is really same as our 6 gallons. Go figure!
Dalmatiansoap
06-19-2009, 05:42 PM
U see now why I was so confused? :)
:woohoonaner:
Patty in Wisc
06-19-2009, 05:56 PM
I sure do!!
chong
06-20-2009, 02:36 AM
Let me just say that before start getting too riled up here, US pot sizes are non-standard, and just because something is sold as a certain volume, does not mean it actually is that volume. You may be able to calculate what the actual volume of something is, but that does not mean that it will be sold under that size, not to mention that it all varies by manufacturer.
Check out this link for a bit more info Understanding Container Sizes and Their Volumes - Container Gardening Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/contain/msg071634112151.html)
The attachment below an example that would reinforce what Gabe and Richard have stated about manufacturer size labeling. This is a page from the catalog of my aggie product supplier here in WA State. As an example, there are two models that are both labeled No. 25: (a)“No. 25-Grip Lip” and (b)“No. 25 Squat-Grip Lip”. Notice that (a) has a listed capacity of 27.58 Gal., while (b) is listed as 20.50 Gal. There are other similarly numbered pots with varying dimensions, but I just happen to have several of this particular size in my stock.
(a) is listed as 22 ¾” x 18”. Calculating for volume based on these dimensions, without regard to taper, the resulting volume is 31.675 Gal. If we factor in the 2-inch taper (I measured the top diameter to be 23” and the bottom diameter is 19”), the resulting volume will be 26.99 Gal.
The (b) version is listed as 22 ¾” x 13 ¹⁄8”. Calculating for volume based on these dimensions, without regard to taper, the resulting volume is 23.096 Gal. If we factor in the taper, the resulting volume will be even lower, 19.446 Gal.
Considering that, as Gabe pointed out, different manufacturers will have different labeling standards, this further adds to the confusion. In Patty’s example, “my pot as 23 x17high” (without taper), will calculate to 30.576 Gal. Then for her ‘55 gal rain barrel - drum is 22" across & 37" high’, using those dimensions, the actual volume calculates to 60.887 Gal.
Note: The above calculations are based on the following factors –
1. 1 Gallon is equal to 231 cubic inches
2. The walls of the containers are smooth and straight.
3. Actual soil volume calculated is from base to brim of the container.
4. Dimensions are measured from the interior.
alexizhere19
06-20-2009, 05:15 PM
This has become really interesting didn't expect it but info we all can use in the future. I would like to thank everyone who has helped. I am not good with math so never bothered to calculate the dimensions.
Thanks
alex
Patty in Wisc
06-21-2009, 11:15 PM
quote from Chong: "rain barrel - drum is 22" across & 37" high’, using those dimensions, the actual volume calculates to 60.887 Gal."
Thanks Chong, that sounds right... I forgot to say it is slightly tapered at top & bottom to make it 55 gal's.
bigdog
06-22-2009, 10:51 AM
The ANLA helped enact a law several years ago that basically says if you say you are selling a "one gallon" nursery stock plant, the container must be one gallon. This law went into effect in 2005.
The ANLA is making a push now to standardize pot sizes (http://www.nurserybusiness.com/GCM/pdf/2008/10/page%2010.pdf), which would be a good thing, in my opinion. Imagine that...pots being the size that they are supposed to be! WOW! LOL! :ha:
Frank
Patty in Wisc
06-23-2009, 01:39 PM
:woohoonaner::goteam: YEAY!
ewitte
06-23-2009, 03:47 PM
So do they get on them if its OVER the rating though? Then again how fine is the line? What about .999999998 gal would they get on you for that? ;)
Then again you could have a tiny little plant and mostly dirt so I'd rather have more plant and less dirt.
vitin6039
06-25-2013, 05:27 PM
Going to a landscape contractor is the cheapest way to get large pots. They buy plants and trees and don't have a need for the pots. I went to my local contractor and got 50 (Max amount I could fit in my truck) for an incredible price of about .40 each. See picture below for details, they have hundreds more if you guys are near me and need the info PM me.
Pallen
01-21-2014, 02:49 PM
~ I am currently looking at a larger pot to help fruiting to happen this spring/summer on my SDC. My 20"x12" pot I believe is only around 16 gallons. I have a blueberry farmer friend who may have some access to some.
~ What are some opinions between plastic, clay and soft containers(like fabric)?
~ When I go through all the work of either repotting my current SDC or starting fresh with on of its pups in a larger pot for its eventual better chance of success at blooming I will be changing my soil choice as well at the same time. But that sounds like yet another whole research thread (http://www.bananas.org/f312/)... :)
cincinnana
01-21-2014, 09:23 PM
Many members use plastic landscape containers as mentioned in all the previous posts to this one, it seems to be the most economical choice.
I believe the container size by choice, used by the expert growers in more temperate zones is the 45 gallon size container. But these are heavy and not as portable as you will need them to be, but it is your best choice.
I have no experience with fibre pots.
Photo below are 55 gal drums cut at the 30 gal level for 2014 projects, drainage holes are not present in these photos.
Are they pretty .....no
Were they free and will they work....yes
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55608&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55608)
Nicolas Naranja
01-21-2014, 09:55 PM
Bananimal turned me on to JackPots. They are great, they air prune the roots and the plant grows quickly.
Legacy Nursery Products, LLC | JackPot (http://www.betterroots.com/index.html)
Pallen
01-21-2014, 10:05 PM
This pot looks interesting HydroFarm: Heavy Duty Pot 20 gal [eco-6019] - Pots / Containers - Discount Specialty Farm, Greenhouse, Garden & Hydroponics Supply Store - Horticulture Source (http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=13447)
Richard
01-21-2014, 10:29 PM
I buy new 25-gallon black plastic nursery pots from the local nursery supply warehouse (AHS (http://www.americanhort.com/)) for $4 apiece. If you buy them by the pallet, the price is about 1/2 that.
Pallen
01-21-2014, 10:50 PM
I buy new 25-gallon black plastic nursery pots from the local nursery supply warehouse (AHS (http://www.americanhort.com/)) for $4 apiece. If you buy them by the pallet, the price is about 1/2 that.
I will definitely have to check out the local nurseries as well.
Richard
01-21-2014, 11:10 PM
I will definitely have to check out the local nurseries as well.
Ok, but when I said "nursery supply warehouse" I meant a company that sells to nurseries and farms.
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