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Patty in Wisc
04-29-2009, 05:57 PM
They just said on news that it was diagnosed somewhere in Illinois & I think it's moving north here. The Mayor was just on news talking about several school closings here as 1 child & I think 2 adults have it here. They had contact w/ children at 4 schools which are now closed as of tomorrow. Look out Bill & just j!
11 states are on watch & possible swine flu there.
john_ny
04-29-2009, 06:50 PM
Patty - The USDA Secretary was on the news today, saying that it should not be called, "swine flu", because it was transferred human to human, and you cannot get it from eating pork. I think this is a good idea, as it is not right that a bunch of hog producers are blamed for something that they had nothing to do with. I think the same thing should be done about the term, "Greenhouse gasses". These things have nothing to do with greenhouses; in fact, it is quite the opposite; in an actively growing greenhouse, on a bright day, by 10 AM there is virtually no CO² present.
buzzwinder
04-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Thanks Patty, Be carefull up there in Millwaukee as well!! :bananas_b
momoese
04-29-2009, 07:50 PM
Run for your lives everyone, the killer pigs are coming!!! :ha:
Really it's not that big a deal. My wife works for a doctor so they have to keep track of this stuff. While there is no vaccine for swine H1N1 viruses, they are no more deadly then any other influenza virus that we deal with every year, and no, you can not get sick from eating pork. The people dying are those who have compromised or weak immune systems such as the very young or very old.
Here is some info from the CDC
CDC - Influenza (Flu) | Key Facts about Swine Influenza (Swine Flu) (http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/key_facts.htm)
Patty in Wisc
04-29-2009, 07:57 PM
Thanks for correcting me. Last I heard it was swine flu in Mexico that spread here. There is another post about this epidemic that I saw 5 min after I posted. Sorry
M'gosh, our local news is sure making this sound scary!
Where's my nearest fallout shelter?? Maybe I should duct tape my house!
(anyone remember that guy?)
momoese
04-29-2009, 08:04 PM
Code red, get out your duct tape!
saltydad
04-29-2009, 08:28 PM
Actually this is a mixture of flu virus from swine, birds and humans. The surprising thing about it's lethality in Mexico is that it strikes hardest at the young and strong, rather than those with weak immune systems, as is usually the case. Hopefully that will not be the case here. The only confirmed death in the US as of now is a 22 month old boy from Mexico in Texas. So it's back to basics, folks....wash hands frequently, stay away from large public gatherings, cut down on the kisses and handshakes, and cover your coughs and sneezes.
momoese
04-29-2009, 09:00 PM
Actually this is a mixture of flu virus from swine, birds and humans. The surprising thing about it's lethality in Mexico is that it strikes hardest at the young and strong, rather than those with weak immune systems, as is usually the case. Hopefully that will not be the case here. The only confirmed death in the US as of now is a 22 month old boy from Mexico in Texas. So it's back to basics, folks....wash hands frequently, stay away from large public gatherings, cut down on the kisses and handshakes, and cover your coughs and sneezes.
A 22 month old child is not strong. The young and healthy in Mexico are moslty ignorant about things of this nature. Keep in mind the people working at the pork farms are for the most part healthy young adults that then bring the flu home to their young children and it spreads from there.
I say not only back to basics but watch out for those pesky illegal immigrants fresh from the pork farms!
My wife says this..."I work with sick people all day long and we are 2 hours from Mexico, surrounded by Mexican immigrants in our daily lives and I'm not worried at all"
If you get sick see your doctor and they will prescribe the proper medication and you'll be fine.
The local news will do anything, and say anything to attract more viewers and sell advertisements, it's that simple. If we all turned off the "news" I use that word lightly, we'd all be much better off!!
BREAKING NEWS ALERT!!!!!!!!! CODE BRONZE......the banana flu is taking over the world, stay away from the yellow fruits!!!! :ha:
momoese
04-29-2009, 10:00 PM
Just in case you want to Know.
36,000 people die in America from the flu each year (source=CDC)
stumpy4700
04-29-2009, 11:22 PM
A couple European countries are starting to call it the Mexican flu.
Tog Tan
04-30-2009, 07:48 AM
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momoese
04-30-2009, 10:24 AM
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proletariatcsp
04-30-2009, 12:11 PM
...somewhere in Illinois & I think it's moving north here -PattyPatty, the virus has been present in Cananda for a few weeks now and I'm sure its only a matter days before it runs its course throughout the US.
they are no more deadly then any other influenza virus that we deal with every year---The people dying are those who have compromised or weak immune systems such as the very young or very old. -Mitchel
Mitchel, the virus is a completely new bug, it is not simply an enhanced or mutated form of influenza like the Mexican flu or Avian flu. Of the 150+ victims in Mexico, most were between the ages of 20 and 40.
Scientists still do not know why young and healthy people are at the highest risk of infection, but they attribute it to the fact that Humans have no immunity to the virus. If you contract the virus, you have a short time to receive medicine because your body can not fight the infection, and it will cause pnuemonia.
Of the reports you are hearing about the severity of infection, ie, some cases are mild and others deadly. That is because the body cannot fight the infection, how it affects YOU will depend on how your body and the virus both react to the anti-viral medication. The news is not refering to anyone that has not received treatment, they are saying that once a person is taking the anti-viral the symptoms may be weaker or remain the same.
folks....wash hands frequently, stay away from large public gatherings, cut down on the kisses and handshakes, and cover your coughs and sneezes. -Howard Howard is absolutely right, wash you hands frequently and do your best to avoid touching surfaces like door handles. The virus can live on surfaces for 7-10 days. As far as I know, the virus is mostly spread through touching unless a person coughs or sneezes directly on you. I wouldn't bother trying to avoid public places, once a person has contracted the virus they are infectious to others for 1-4 days before showing symptoms. Chances are that you will not know if someone is sick.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!! -Tog
Hilarious!
it was transferred human to human, and you cannot get it from eating pork. John, it is terrible that Egypt slaughtered their pigs. Scientists have already determined that the desease is not being transmitted back and forth between humans and pigs. They say it originated about a year ago--when the virus evolved into something very different from the swine flu of the 1970's and began infecting humans. So far, there is no indication that pigs are re-contracting the virus from humans.
Just wash your hands allot, and if you start running a high fever then go to your doctor.
momoese
04-30-2009, 12:30 PM
Mitchel, the virus is a completely new bug, it is not simply an enhanced or mutated form of influenza like the Mexican flu or Avian flu.
I'm aware of that. Read the link to the CDC info I posted. It explains exactly what it is and what two meds will work to fight it. Today they are saying that it's not even going to be as bad as our seasonal flu virus. We'll see.
Now if you want to really go deep into it, some conspirators believe it was created by the government and that the virus in Mexico is stronger than the virus here. :lurk:
momoese
04-30-2009, 12:38 PM
Here ya go Chris, this is fun!
Is Swine Flu A Biological Weapon? (http://www.prisonplanet.com/is-swine-flu-a-biological-weapon.html)
Patty in Wisc
04-30-2009, 04:45 PM
Our Governor Is in town & just cut in local programming to announce a public health emergency here. 2 or 3 more schools are closed "INDEFINATELY" untill they can sanitize everything in them. Wow.
I'm almost done duct taping my house but, Bob, I may have to order more from you LOL.
saltydad
04-30-2009, 05:15 PM
Here's the latest as reported in Medscape
Potential Impact of Swine Flu: An Expert Interview With Neal A. Halsey, MD
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<!-- Right Column TOC --> <!-- TOC --> <!-- article content goes here --> April 30, 2009 — Editor's note: The outbreak of swine influenza A (H1N1) viral disease is continuing to grow in the United States and globally, with 91 laboratory-confirmed US cases and 1 death, according to US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) information updated April 29 at 11 am EST. The World Health Organization (WHO) has issued a phase 5 pandemic alert, and the CDC has implemented its emergency response and warned that the more recent illnesses suggest a pattern of more severe disease associated with this virus in the United States. Because most people are not immune to this new viral strain, the CDC expects more confirmed cases, more hospitalizations, and more deaths in the near future.
To learn more about the potential impact of H1N1 viral disease on public health, as well as treatment and prevention strategies, Medscape Infectious Diseases interviewed Neal A. Halsey, MD, professor in the Department of International Health, Bloomberg School of Public Health, Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. Dr. Halsey's primary research and teaching effort is directed toward the prevention of infectious diseases with the safest vaccines possible. He has conducted or participated in epidemiologic studies of vaccine-preventable diseases and phase 1, 2, and 3 vaccine trials for influenza, hepatitis B, hepatitis A, inactivated polio virus, pertussis, Haemophilus influenzae type B, tetanus, Lyme disease, rotavirus, and Argentina hemorrhagic fever viruses
Medscape: How serious is the swine flu situation?
Dr. Halsey: The swine flu changes things and will change priorities for many people. The evidence that we have so far is that this does represent a potential threat to global public health, and a lot of resources are going to have to go into trying to prepare as best we can to minimize the impact.
That will include development, as rapidly as possible, of vaccines against this new strain and making those vaccines rapidly available. If we see more widespread transmission, especially this year, then drug therapy will be an important part, especially here in the developed world.
We need low-cost drugs against influenza in the developing countries as well, because we won't have enough vaccines to protect the population against this new virus. We don't have sufficient vaccine production capacity in the world to make enough vaccine for everybody.
The biggest concern I have is that this will distract us from use of other vaccines that also can protect against disease, like the new pneumococcal vaccine, and even the push to continue to introduce the Hib vaccine. But this new influenza is a serious threat.
Medscape: Are existing influenza vaccines effective against the new strain?
Dr. Halsey: No.
Medscape: How long would it take for a new vaccine to be developed and produced against this virus?
Dr. Halsey: That's what the manufacturers are going to be asked this week, and the answer, with the traditional method, is that we usually give manufacturers 4 to 6 months. They find out about the virus that's going to go in at the end of January, beginning of February, each year, and they make the vaccine, and make it available beginning as early as the end of September, beginning of October.
They've already been making the vaccine they thought was going to be in widespread use, and the key question is whether they should stop what they're doing and put the effort into producing vaccine against this new strain, and that will have to be answered.
There are some new technologies that are being used that may be more rapid in terms of making new vaccine, but they have not yet been widely used. All vaccines currently approved for use require eggs for production, and the supply of eggs is likely to be limited and the manufacturers do not have the capacity to produce enough vaccine for everyone, so there will be shortages.
A number of the manufacturers are experimenting with making cell-based vaccines that don't require eggs; that also could speed up the process, but so far, none of those vaccines that I know of has been approved for use. If we had the production capacity using these cell-based vaccines, it could be more rapid.
I'm sure that both the CDC and WHO are meeting with manufacturers of flu vaccines, and they're all looking at this, trying to determine what their capability will be, but we don't have any answers yet.
Medscape: Are antiviral drugs such as Tamiflu effective against this strain?
Dr. Halsey: Oseltamivir, or Tamiflu, and zanamivir (Relenza) are effective against this strain, but amantadine and the older drugs are not. They've tested the virus and it is susceptible to oseltamivir and zanamivir, which is the only good news out of what we've heard so far.
Medscape: Are there any concerns, with this new strain being a mixture of swine and avian and human strains, that this was in any way genetically engineered or terrorist-related?
Dr. Halsey: No, it doesn't look that way to me. We have been anticipating a potential pandemic from a virus that would come through that same kind of mixing. We know that especially pigs, or swine, are a great mixing bowl, because they are susceptible not only to the swine flu, but also influenza from birds and influenza from humans. So the same pig can have in its body simultaneously several different infections with several different viruses and allow for that mixing. This happens naturally, and that's part of why, especially in Asia, we've been seeing some problems with transmission. You don't need to invoke any concern about bioterrorism to explain how this may have happened.
Medscape: What do you see as the overall potential impact of this swine flu?
Dr. Halsey: The swine flu epidemic, or if it turns out to be a pandemic, which is what we're all concerned about, may turn out not only to have a significant effect on public health and potential mortality, but it could also potentially impair everything else we're trying to do with regard to immunization, in terms of using everybody available to deal with this problem.
It also could have a significant exacerbating effect on the global economy. They've already shut the schools in Mexico; they didn't have audiences for the soccer matches. You can imagine the impact it will have with regard to travel. Some individual countries in the European Union have issued some statements, or cautionary advisories, with regard to travel.
Imagine what the economic impact of loss of tourism in Mexico is going to be, and potentially the United States. So I see this as rapidly having an exacerbating effect on the current recession. This is not a small issue.
Dr. Halsey reports receiving research grant support from Wyeth for studies of pneumococcal disease in Guatemala and from Berna for studies of combination vaccines in Guatemala. He also serves on data and safety monitoring boards for Novartis and Merck.
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proletariatcsp
04-30-2009, 10:02 PM
I'm aware of that. Read the link to the CDC info I posted. Touche! Still any manufactured bio-weapons have a long way to go before they trump heart disease deaths of 150,000 each year!
Excellent article, thanks Mitchel
bepah
04-30-2009, 10:23 PM
I heard on the radio yesterday that the worldwide death count due to H1N1 flu has been reduced to.............
7.
Patty in Wisc
04-30-2009, 11:16 PM
Whaaat?
bepah
05-01-2009, 09:41 PM
Yes...7 may be 8 by now.
While I believe that any flu may have the potential to have a possibility of a pandemic, it is the role of the media to advance it to an impact unrealistic in life. Latest reports from the labs in Atlanta are that the N1H1 strian may be no more serious that the normal flu, which kills 30,000 people every year.
Wash your hands, stay away from people if possible, do not travel in crowded places in possible, and finally, do not believe everything you read in the papers or see on TV.
Finally, and this is serious, the flu pandemic of 1918 (in which my mother lost a couple of siblings) showed up early in the year (spring) of 1918 and faded away....then reappeared with a vengeance in the winter. The CDC has active strains of this flu in reserve for the purpose of making flu shots, of course, and research.
Patty in Wisc
05-02-2009, 10:31 AM
You're right John. At first - at quick glance, I thought you were saying 7 cases reported but you said death is 7. My gosh, there is 27 cases reported here & at least 7 schools closed. I hope they aren't over doing this & scaring the hell out of us just because it's a different strain of our regular flu bug. Some ppl on national programs are still calling it 'swine flu'.
lorax
05-02-2009, 10:45 AM
Yes, but the job of the American media (and most other media as well) is to scare the bejeezus out of the citizens. It makes the government's job much easier when the people are so afraid of the alternative that they'll go along with whatever wonky policy is suggested.
buzzwinder
05-02-2009, 05:01 PM
Lorax, you hit that one RIGHT ON THE HEAD! the media has become a major tool for the gov. used to sway public opinion. Sad, but true.
Patty in Wisc
05-02-2009, 05:40 PM
I'm not listening to the news anymore. National news on now, is still calling it swine flu & they said 17 ppl in Mexico died of it. Do they make this stuff up as they go or what!?!
Patty in Wisc
05-02-2009, 05:48 PM
They talk like it's one flu, but is it swine flu AND H1N1 that's going around or are they one flu?
Geeze, I'd rather read here than watch news.
Taylor
05-02-2009, 06:13 PM
They are trying to get people to call it H1N1 rather than Swine, but people will continue to call it Swine because it causes confusion otherwise. (As Patty is)
CookieCows
05-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Well whatever it is ..... it just plain sucks that we just start pulling out of the regular flu season and another one starts up at the beginning of summer!! As it is I and alot of others in our community have this nagging dry cough that has been hanging on for the last 3 months with no signs of letting up. :0491: ugg.. not fun.
chong
05-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Well whatever it is ..... it just plain sucks that we just start pulling out of the regular flu season and another one starts up at the beginning of summer!! As it is I and alot of others in our community have this nagging dry cough that has been hanging on for the last 3 months with no signs of letting up. :0491: ugg.. not fun.
Come on, Deb, it shouldn't be totally unexpected. After all, remember - "It was once said that a black man would be president 'when pigs fly'. Indeed, 100 days into Obama's presidency, swine flu."
Patty in Wisc
05-06-2009, 10:52 PM
I found the culprit of swine flu!!!
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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/Patty_in_Wisc/swine.jpg
CookieCows
05-06-2009, 11:12 PM
Come on, Deb, it shouldn't be totally unexpected. After all, remember - "It was once said that a black man would be president 'when pigs fly'. Indeed, 100 days into Obama's presidency, swine flu."
Chong .... you must be rested up now for that witty come back!! :ha:
Patty... where did you find that ... there goes my gag reflex I have such a problem with!! :ha:
Patty in Wisc
05-06-2009, 11:44 PM
Got it in email flying around LOL. I'd NEVER let my baby do that!
chong
05-07-2009, 06:33 PM
Chong .... you must be rested up now for that witty come back!! :ha:
Patty... where did you find that ... there goes my gag reflex I have such a problem with!! :ha:
Got it in email flying around LOL. I'd NEVER let my baby do that!
Thanks, Deb.
I saw that before, it was captioned, "Baby's First French Kiss!" (What were the first two lines of that Dionne Warwick song again?)
Lagniappe
05-07-2009, 08:24 PM
Poor kid. Have you guys ever been hungry enough to eat live pig snout?
That pic belongs in the weird food thread.
Tog Tan
05-07-2009, 09:58 PM
Poor kid. Have you guys ever been hungry enough to eat live pig snout?
That pic belongs in the weird food thread.
Pete - Not weird enaf, it's a delicacy here together with the forehead and the ears. Not really great tasting though, a little tough.
Lagniappe
05-07-2009, 10:46 PM
Pete - Not weird enaf, it's a delicacy here together with the forehead and the ears. Not really great tasting though, a little tough.
Are you kidding? Here, we eat everything but the squeal....and it's bottled up for new years.
But we never eat it onna hoof...always dead first.
Patty in Wisc
05-13-2009, 12:45 PM
I've seen pig snout in meat section at Mexican grocery store on south side. Pickled pigs feet is very popular (not w/ me though).
chong
05-19-2009, 10:49 PM
Bad News For Mexican Bananas
Mexico: Exports of banana to Europe are stopped
The contingencies led producers of the state to stop sending shipments of 200 tons, which weakened its price ...
Banana exports to Europe have dropped by half as a result of health alerts by the influenza type A H1N1, and that although there was no restriction on agricultural production in Mexico, buyers applied cautiousness because of the nervousness which was extended in the world population by the outbreak which was reported from this country. This was admitted by the producers, primarily the association of Plantain producers in the Sierra.
The precise reduction was of 10 containers, 5 per week, and since each carries 20 tons, the fall is of 200 to 100 tons in frequency of designated shipments.
The reduction was only reported for the previous two weeks, which were some of the worst registered for the swine influenza epidemic.
At the same time, the price of the fruit in the country began to decline, after reaching a record price of 140 pesos per box of 18 and a half kilograms, it is now at the beginning of this week at 100 pesos in wholesale prices in the Central de Abasto in the capital of the state.
In March, the leader of the banana producers of Teape and president of the Mexican Council of Foreign Trade (Comce), Adrián Prats Leal, reported that the crop was at levels 40 percent below the average production of the year.
According to what was stated by Adrián Prats Leal, exports were released at a rate of 15 to 20 containers per week, with a capacity of a thousand boxes per each container, which meant 20 tons each, and 400 tons per week. But with the arrival of the virus, the rise in the dispatch of shipments via boat collapsed.
State production
According to data from the producers in the region of the Sierra there are about 7 thousand hectares, of which each hectare produces about 500 boxes of plantain a year, resulting in a production of over 600 thousand cases per year just over 50 thousand per month.
It is noteworthy to mention that last year; Tabasco plantain production was hampered by 200 thousand hectares, due to the rising of the rivers, which represented a loss of about 8 million pesos.
Source: Tabasco Hoy
Chironex
05-20-2009, 01:26 AM
We have about 10% of the cases here in NV. A week or so ago, there were around 2,500 cases in the U.S.A. and we had 250 of them. Yikes!
Patty in Wisc
06-04-2009, 09:24 PM
I heard Illinois & Wisconsin were right up there w/ cases reported.
We had our first death in the state today in Milwaukee.
bepah
06-05-2009, 08:10 AM
A young girl in the Bay Area has just died from it.
momoese
08-03-2009, 01:16 PM
Ok, so not only is it rampant in the Los Angeles area, yours truly has it. Not fun!
chong
08-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Ok, so not only is it rampant in the Los Angeles area, yours truly has it. Not fun!
Take it easy, Mitch. Hope you get over it quickly.
saltydad
08-03-2009, 03:52 PM
All my best, Mitch.
Patty in Wisc
08-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Take care Mitchel. I s'pose if you're going to get it, now's the time. They said that in Fall when flu goes around again, it will be much worse so hopefully you'll have an immunity. Just take it easy & don't let it spread.
CValentine
08-04-2009, 02:40 PM
Yes, take care Mitch...
Full healing!!! ~Cheryl
browndrake
08-04-2009, 04:30 PM
hope you feel better soon...
it is not an old wives tale to get extra rest and drink plenty of fluids..it really helps.
take care
aaron
damaclese
08-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Ok, so not only is it rampant in the Los Angeles area, yours truly has it. Not fun!
i feel for you take it easy and get better i had it alread in May it wasin't to bad but it did go on and on
momoese
08-04-2009, 07:38 PM
It seems to be winding down now. I worked most of the day today even though I was still feeling dizzy and weak. I just had to get out of the house and do something!
Patty in Wisc
08-04-2009, 11:50 PM
I hear Ya!! Sometimes being couped up & not doing anything can make you feel worse. Just don't overdo yourself.
I never knew anyone who had swine flu although they said on news we have more reported cases here (WI) than anywhere. Mitchel, how would you compare this to regular flu? Any difference? Flu magnified? Lung congestion too?
Feel better soon, & thanks for a little update.
momoese
08-05-2009, 12:56 AM
It's probably the 2nd sickest I've ever been right behind a sever case of food poisoning from unpasteurized pomegranate juice. For me the worst part was a throat so swollen shut and painful that just getting a sip a water down was like having a red hot knife shoved down your throat, but the pain also went up the neck into the glands. Just awful. I lost 11 pounds in 3 days. 103 fever and chills for days while taking Tylenol. To sum it up, severe sore throat/glands, cough, headache, earaches, fever, body aches, nausea/vomiting, dizziness, pain in bladder during urination,and waking up completely drenched in sweat so bad we had to replace my pillow and wash the sheets. So far no lung congestion or sneezing/runny nose, but the cough continues so who knows. I never took Tamaflu even though I had a perscription.
The IDC has had so many calls they don't even much care any more. The most scary thing about about this flu is how contagious it is. This Fall won't be pretty!
island cassie
08-05-2009, 07:47 AM
Sorry to hear you have been feeling so bad Mitchell! My son had it the week before last, but said it was just like a very heavy cold so perhaps there are different strains going around, and he was taking Tamiflu.
momoese
08-05-2009, 08:38 AM
I think it affects people differently. The guy my wife saw a few a weeks ago had to be hospitalized because he was having difficulty breathing. He's fine now.
Patty in Wisc
08-06-2009, 12:43 AM
The guy my wife saw a few a weeks ago had to be hospitalized because he was having difficulty breathing. He's fine now.
Mitchel, I think you should tell ppl that your wife is in nursing/healthcare field :ha::ha::ha:
Oh man, so sorry you went thru all that...YUK! If I had it that bad, I think I'd be dead now. I've always had a low immune system.
hammer
08-06-2009, 09:05 AM
Sacry my kids start school at the end of the month 5-6 year old what scars me the most it mutated from swine to human what els can it mutated my wife works in lab I think tamaflu has been over used and the flu has become restant to it.
conejov
08-06-2009, 11:20 AM
Im glad your starting to feel better mitchel.
momoese
08-06-2009, 11:45 AM
Mitchel, I think you should tell ppl that your wife is in nursing/healthcare field :ha::ha::ha:
Oh man, so sorry you went thru all that...YUK! If I had it that bad, I think I'd be dead now. I've always had a low immune system.
Yeah I guess that sound a bit funny! Let me re-phrase that to say she saw a "patient" who had the swine flu. :)
Patty in Wisc
10-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Late breaking news on TV just now: 4 people died in Milwaukee this week of H1N1 (swine) flu. Total of 6 since early June.
There are people waiting in long lines for a shot but they keep running out, so they turn them away.
They recently said that of 20,000 hospitalized w/flu, 20 died (I think that was just here in Wisc). Few weeks ago they closed some schools when almost 40% of students were sick w/ flu-like symptoms. This is really getting scary!! Any big outbreaks in your city & state?
Dalmatiansoap
10-28-2009, 03:33 PM
First school closed here today :(.
Patty in Wisc
10-28-2009, 05:30 PM
Whoops, I meant 4 ppl died in the state & 2 were from MKE.
damaclese
10-28-2009, 07:32 PM
i hear you Patty but dont get all paniked most of the people that are dieing have othere health problims statisticly speaking 3% of all people that come down with the flu each year die sad but true so the US population is 450 milin give or take a few 3% of that is alot people my brother had it 4 weeks ago and he servived it is a farly strong strain but its certinly not in any way the werst flu to come along even in resint times
just wash your hands alot after every contacked with a serfice of un known orgin and dont tuch your face and take Vietmens that helps if you are really worred tack Glutamine this is an amino acid it is they primary building block of your imun systom I dont know a singal person that takes it with ragularity that even gets a cold im not kiding on that i take it i havint had a cold in many years
Abnshrek
10-28-2009, 10:18 PM
My neighbors (the whole family) across the street had it.. They were down for a week..
It's probably the 2nd sickest I've ever been right behind a sever case of food poisoning from unpasteurized pomegranate juice. For me the worst part was a throat so swollen shut and painful that just getting a sip a water down was like having a red hot knife shoved down your throat, but the pain also went up the neck into the glands. Just awful. I lost 11 pounds in 3 days. 103 fever and chills for days while taking Tylenol. To sum it up, severe sore throat/glands, cough, headache, earaches, fever, body aches, nausea/vomiting, dizziness, pain in bladder during urination,and waking up completely drenched in sweat so bad we had to replace my pillow and wash the sheets. So far no lung congestion or sneezing/runny nose, but the cough continues so who knows. I never took Tamaflu even though I had a perscription.
The IDC has had so many calls they don't even much care any more. The most scary thing about about this flu is how contagious it is. This Fall won't be pretty!
I had it last week as well. I know it was swine flu because I had a regular flu shot a month ago. My first symptom was a sore throat that quickly decended into the lungs, every cough felt like a wire brush was running up and down my trachea. When a coughing spasm would hit, I could not get a breath. I had fever and sweats, headache. Worst part was only about 3 days, but residual cough is still going.
Like you say, it is very contagious--1-4 day incubation period.
Abnshrek
10-29-2009, 11:12 AM
but residual cough is still going.
My neighbors have that as well. Of course I don't get very close when I was talking to him..
Patty in Wisc
10-29-2009, 11:26 AM
SBL, was wondering where you've been! Get better soon, & glad you're OK:)
Thanks. It looks like the shots will be too late for most people around here--it just got a local elementary school principal--she died after several days in the hospital. I was going to get the shot, but not much use now.
Patty in Wisc
10-29-2009, 01:57 PM
That is so sad. They were s'posed to have these shots ready last month. What took them so long?!! They had all year. I still didn't get mine - all the clinics keep running out.
Only infants 2-4yrs & infant caretakers & healthcare workers can get them for now.
Abnshrek
10-29-2009, 02:33 PM
Well we're home schooling 1 of 2 and trying to keep our distance from under the weather folks..
I'm down sick right now. Had fever all night & today. Got a headache, too, but not the wire-brush thing that Sbl was talking about. Just a real bad cough. Let ya know if the wire-brush thing happens.
justjoan
10-29-2009, 03:26 PM
There have been 12 deaths so far this year from H1N1, very prevelant in the schools. I am perplexed about the vaccine also, I know some plants were busy with the seasonal flu vaccine but I agree with Patty they have had a whole year to get the stuff ready. I just got my seasonal flu shot last week, thank God my work had someone come in and give them to us, my Gary had to wait forever at a CVS pharmacy to get his. :(
mjdsinsacto
10-29-2009, 05:41 PM
This might sound stupid, but I honestly want to know--is the H1N1 vaccine being distributed free of charge?
For families that have lost their health benefits along with employment, where could they get the vaccine?
Abnshrek
10-29-2009, 06:47 PM
Personally I don't think I want a shot.. The only thing I want to come out of an egg is a chick or something for breakfast (cooking).
I'm down sick right now. Had fever all night & today. Got a headache, too, but not the wire-brush thing that Sbl was talking about. Just a real bad cough. Let ya know if the wire-brush thing happens.
Take care and don't be afraid to get help if your lungs get too congested or the breathing gets hard. The main difference between the swine flu and regular flu is the deep lung involvement and it is worse on young people because they have never been exposed to anything like it. People born before 1950 may have some immunity due to a similar strain that occured in the late 40s.
As for cost, most of what I have seen here are charging $12/shot, but there may be free clinics in some states.
Patty in Wisc
10-30-2009, 01:36 AM
At my local Walgreens, reg flu shots are $20.00 but don't know about H1N1. I think I heard on news where they were giving free shots (like one place every other day or so) & only for certain ppl, but they run out turning long lines away.
Hang in there Eric. I too haven't felt good these last few days...feverish, chills & been coughing for 2 months! Lots of congestion here.
I'm going to take Pauly's advice & buy some glutamine (thanks Pauly). My immune system is so bad I'll catch anyone's cold if we talk on phone or email!!!
Joan, are those 12 deaths there in MN?
Patty in Wisc
10-30-2009, 02:53 PM
Another person just died of H1N1 just south of MKE. There is one clinic (school) giving shots today but only for childcare workers. 2 other clinics scheduled for shots today are closed because they don't have any.
lorax
10-30-2009, 04:40 PM
Wow, and it's been all but expunged from Ecuador. They quarantine anybody with symptoms immediately and have been doing massive doses of vitamin C because most people can't afford the vaccine. We get maybe, maybe 1 or 2 new cases a month, and our mortality rate has dropped off to zero.
Hang in there, Eric, and start sucking limes!
Dalmatiansoap
10-30-2009, 05:14 PM
Just watched the news and it says that there is new typ of virus in Ukraine. Schools and all sort of public places are closed for 3 weeks from now. 36 ppl died in last few days :(
CValentine
10-30-2009, 05:37 PM
So sorry to hear that Ante... :( ~Cheryl
Patty in Wisc
10-30-2009, 06:41 PM
Wow Ante, that is awful!
Abnshrek
10-30-2009, 06:56 PM
Aweful is right.. The only thing here is waiting for the flood waters to subside..
<-on high ground.. lol
I'm down sick right now. Had fever all night & today. Got a headache, too, but not the wire-brush thing that Sbl was talking about. Just a real bad cough. Let ya know if the wire-brush thing happens.
Haven't heard from you in a few days---I hope you are OK.
LilRaverBoi
11-02-2009, 08:19 PM
Woot woot! I just got an email today about getting FREE H1N1 vaccines in one of the buildings on campus. Me and a good friend went over there and got the two last ones! No swine flu for me!!!
Patty in Wisc
11-02-2009, 08:32 PM
:woohoonaner: good for you Bryan!
I PM'd Eric to see how he's doing...he said he was sick a few days ago.
LilRaverBoi
11-02-2009, 09:00 PM
He told me that he's feeling better now, so I think he'll be okay.
Just read your post, Ante. You be VERY careful & keep your family safe as possible.
Thanx about bein concerned, guys! I'm feeling a LOT better now & never got that "wire brush in the throat" feelin so I think it was just a Really bad cold. You guys be Real careful, too, and wash your hands a Lot.
Glad to hear you are OK--it sounded like you were headed for a rough time--glad it was not.
damaclese
11-03-2009, 10:22 AM
my mom just told me that my brother who lives in Sidonia had the
N1H1 3 weeks ago she said he reported that it was the worst flu he had ever had said he couldn't even get out of bed for a week but hes better now i worry about all my bro's they all have hart conditions he has a stint in his aorta I'm the only one that doesn't have hart problem but on the bright side at least hes done with it. i sure hope i don't get it I'm not good with being sick at least when you work in food service you wash your hands a "hundred times a day "
Patty in Wisc
11-03-2009, 01:33 PM
I hope everyone in the food biz is as clean & "aware" as you Pauly.
A 51 yr old woman from South Milwaukee just died today of H1N1 after being sick for a month. She had asthma & was a high school teacher somewhere in AZ for the last 2 years.
my mom just told me that my brother who lives in Sidonia had the
N1H1 3 weeks ago she said he reported that it was the worst flu he had ever had said he couldn't even get out of bed for a week but hes better now i worry about all my bro's they all have hart conditions he has a stint in his aorta I'm the only one that doesn't have hart problem but on the bright side at least hes done with it. i sure hope i don't get it I'm not good with being sick at least when you work in food service you wash your hands a "hundred times a day "
Glad to hear that he pulled through okay. Also, glad to hear you dont have heart trouble. Be extra careful that you dont get it. The rest of you guys be extra careful too.
Thanx Sbl :) ! I'm definitely glad, too!
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