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bigdog
03-26-2009, 02:33 PM
I was hoping that it would hold off until I got it home! Trying to transport that thing in my van with a flower bud is going to be tricky, but I'll make sure that it is locked into place before I take it home.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16298&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16298&ppuser=49)

I haven't really been hitting it with much fertilizer, but it has been getting some along with the rest of my bananas in the greenhouse at school. I was really hoping that it would hold off for about another month at least, so it would have time to grow some more leaves and I could hit it with some extra Potassium. Oh well...guess I should be happy...and I am!

Frank

austinl01
03-26-2009, 02:45 PM
Congrats, Frank. Great work!

Well, the pstem on my V. cohol rotted over the winter in the garage. It looked fine until warmer weather came and then turned brown. This one is quite sensitive to cold, unfortunately. :( I hope it sends up some pups.

harveyc
03-26-2009, 03:04 PM
Congrats, Frank! A flower in March is much better than October! ;)

Maybe it would be worth renting an elcosed U-haul trailer so you can just leave it upright and move it that way. If you did that, you could probably hold off for a bit. How tall is it?

Thanks for posting,

Harvey

Bananaman88
03-26-2009, 03:11 PM
Yes, "oh no",indeed. Poor you! I understand what you mean, though. Good luck with it!

harveyc
03-26-2009, 03:19 PM
I should have been clearer on that, I didn't have a VC bloom last October but did have an unknown bloom in November (the leafless plant is still there with the bud and I'm going to just leave it to see what happens after trimming off the dead sheaths). I hope to get a VC pretty soon.

Harvey

harveyc
03-26-2009, 03:23 PM
Brent, in case you missed my question, how tall is the pseudostem on your VC?

Bananaman88
03-26-2009, 03:53 PM
Oh, I do not have a VC yet. I'm supposed to get one from another member here later this year if his does well. I was just messing with BigDog in my post. I was simply trying to say at least you have a VC and it is about to flower at that. Pay no attention to me!

Bob
03-26-2009, 04:11 PM
Waaaay Cool Frank...Congrats. Are you the first member to have one flower? How long have you had it. Can you tell us more about the plants history (with you) ? I'm hoping to get one this year(#49 at GB)Keep us posted.:02:

harveyc
03-26-2009, 04:13 PM
Sorry, Brent/Frank. Your user names both start with "B" and I was thinking Frank was replying to me when it was Brent commenting to Frank.

Going back to work on taxes where I belong! :P

bencelest
03-26-2009, 04:45 PM
You guys are funny> Ha-ha......
My VC is still an infant but just transplanted it at my pergola plat. I expect it to be 5 feet tall by the end of summer.

TomK
03-26-2009, 07:25 PM
Cool. Congrats!

Greenie
03-27-2009, 01:39 AM
congrats!

Bananaman88
03-27-2009, 06:22 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing (pictures!) how this plant does for everyone this year. Hopefully I will have one by mid-summer and maybe get it to fruit next year. All of you lucky enough to have one now, please keep us posted.

bigdog
03-27-2009, 10:15 AM
Maybe it would be worth renting an elcosed U-haul trailer so you can just leave it upright and move it that way. If you did that, you could probably hold off for a bit. How tall is it?

Thanks for posting,

Harvey

I have so many plants at the greenhouse, it might actually be worth it to rent a Uhaul!

I just measured it, and it is just over four feet of actual pseudostem.

Congrats, Frank. Great work!

Well, the pstem on my V. cohol rotted over the winter in the garage. It looked fine until warmer weather came and then turned brown. This one is quite sensitive to cold, unfortunately. :( I hope it sends up some pups.

Thanks, Austin. Sorry to hear about yours. This happened to Randy also! At least we are learning more about its needs. I'm sure yours will come back, if the corm is still solid.

Waaaay Cool Frank...Congrats. Are you the first member to have one flower? How long have you had it. Can you tell us more about the plants history (with you) ? I'm hoping to get one this year(#49 at GB)Keep us posted.:02:

I'm sure Jon in San Diego has had one or more flower. Hasn't he had every cultivar ever available in the US at one time or another? LOL! I wish I had that climate, because I would too.

I've had the plant for about a year, and if I told you anything else about it, I would have to kill you. :2723: :ha:

Frank

bigdog
03-27-2009, 10:29 AM
Here is another (crappy) cell phone picture of it today. It's in the middle of the picture, with a couple of one-gallon Monkey Puzzle Tree seedlings in it and a nice, fat pup (!).

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16310&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16310&ppuser=49)

Frank

austinl01
03-27-2009, 11:23 AM
Frank, your plant is flowering at a short height. Mine grew taller than that last year and didn't flower.

bigdog
03-27-2009, 12:02 PM
It could be blooming at this height for a couple of reaons:

1. It's in a pot

2. Stress. I dug it up and barerooted it in the greenhouse for several weeks before I finally potted it up.

It has 7 full-sized leaves plus the flag leaf, so I don't really anticipate a huge bunch. I'll keep you posted!

Frank

Worm_Farmer
03-28-2009, 04:55 PM
I thought Viente Cohol is suppose to flower and fruit small and early. I have been wanting to get one but they are always out of stock at going bananas.

hammer
03-28-2009, 06:24 PM
great job you done something most of will never do get a banana to flower

bigdog
04-15-2009, 02:41 PM
Just an update here. I took these a couple of days ago. Today, there are four hands showing so far, with ten fingers/hand (about).

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16670&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16670&ppuser=49)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16669&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16669&ppuser=49)

austinl01
04-15-2009, 02:47 PM
Nice job, Frank!

Taylor
04-15-2009, 02:49 PM
Looks great. Can't believe it is so happy in a small pot, a winner for greenhouse growing!

john_ny
04-15-2009, 03:26 PM
Beautiful! Keep us posted on progress, like length of time from bud to flower to little fruit, to pickable fruit, etc.

bigdog
04-15-2009, 03:29 PM
Looks great. Can't believe it is so happy in a small pot, a winner for greenhouse growing!

That's a good point. Keep in mind that it was grown in the ground all last summer, then unceremoniously ripped out of the ground and brought to the greenhouse. So it hasn't lived its life in this pot. But I was surprised by the timing of the flower! And a bit bummed, since now it will be difficult to bring it home (if it ever warms up around here). Oh, and "small" is relative! That pot is about a 15 gallon pot. It wasn't potted up into it with the idea of having it flower in it; all I wanted to do was get a few leaves going so it had a good start this spring. It sat in a trash bag for about a month before I potted it up!

Frank

Patty in Wisc
04-15-2009, 03:49 PM
Congrats Frank. Keep us posted w/ pics :) ...and how long it takes to mature & ripen.

john_ny
04-15-2009, 06:15 PM
I am especially interested in this, as I live in a short season area, and I was the person who noticed this somewhere else, and was the first to post it here. The original article is a little difficult to find, as the poster, on the other site, spelled the name wrong, but here is the link:
http://www.bananas.org/f2/veinte-cohol-3299.html

bigdog
04-15-2009, 06:45 PM
I am especially interested in this, as I live in a short season area, and I was the person who noticed this somewhere else, and was the first to post it here. The original article is a little difficult to find, as the poster, on the other site, spelled the name wrong, but here is the link:
http://www.bananas.org/f2/veinte-cohol-3299.html

You know, you got me wondering if I spelled it wrong...I've seen it both ways, and "veinte" seems more logical since that is the spelling of the Spanish word for "20." I see it spelled "Viente" more times on the internet though. I'll see if I can do some digging...

I will surely keep everyone posted. I attended the SPS meeting in Savannah when Dr. Wallace first started the hubbub over this cultivar. He should be introducing a few new hybrids this year too, if memory serves.

Frank

Chironex
04-15-2009, 06:47 PM
Veinte is correct, it's a Spanish word. Gabe and Beth (As I recall) have commented on this. Perhaps Chong did too. My memory is not....something.

bigdog
04-15-2009, 07:00 PM
Veinte is correct, it's a Spanish word. Gabe and Beth (As I recall) have commented on this. Perhaps Chong did too. My memory is not....something.

That's what I would think too, but if you do a Google Scholar search, "Viente Cohol" turns up more hits than "Veinte Cohol." I found the original article in Southeastern Palms, Winter 2007 issue, and Dr. Wallace has it spelled "Veinte Cohol" every time except the very last one, where he spells it "Viente Cohol."

Frank

john_ny
04-15-2009, 07:20 PM
Sorry, someone, when I posted originally, said I was spelling it long, so I corrected it. I'm Norwegian descent, and the last time I took Spanish was in high school. In college, as a chemistry major, I had to take German.

Taylor
04-15-2009, 07:23 PM
Scot's right....and it's pronounced "Bent-A".

And then however you say the second 'word', I have no idea!

chong
04-15-2009, 07:58 PM
For the record, here is a page off the literature, "Banana Names and Synonyms in Southeast Asia". Veinte = twenty; Cohol = snail, ergo: Veinte Cohol = twenty snails.

Snail has two translation in Tagalog. One is "kuhol" and the other is "susū". Kuhol is used more is used more in written word because, "susu", without the circumflex(^) above the second "u" means "breast". Kuhol may have been derived from the Spanish "caracol", which means snail. Just like other Spanish words, e.g., guayaba is bayabas in Tagalog(Ta) - guava in English (En); guanabana(Sp) = guyabano(Ta) - soursop (En), veinte(Sp) = beynte(Ta) - twenty (En), etc.

Chironex
04-15-2009, 10:41 PM
I could have a field day with that info Chong!
Tog? You in on this one?