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Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 12:12 PM
Hey!
Anyone use this ?? Or would you?? and can you explain it??
Kylie:waving:

Worm_Farmer
03-08-2009, 01:04 PM
Yes, I have used it and still have some left.
Yes, it is awesome stuff!
Yes, it is also expensive

I have been using this product.
MycoBoost Beneficial Fungi for healthier plants and stronger roots (http://www.megagro.com/mycoboost.htm)

When I gave it to my potted nanaers the grew roots out of the holes in the bottom of the pots so thick and dense that water could no longer drain. My apple banana wet from pup to 18" and in ground with a huge root ball in about 3 months.

I gave it to a cutting I got from a Red Crape Myrtle, and in one season it went from a stick to a full small plant and that bloomed year.

I gave it to my Angel's trumpit cutting and the 1 gallon pot turned into nothing but a mass of roots, I moved it up to 3 gallon and added some more and then it filled out again right away.

I did not notice much from my Tom's are far as them reacing to it, but I did see my Green Beans make some big thick roots which was completly differnt then normal, and it also made my pineapple grow some nice thick roots but did not notice much change on the top.

I mix it into my potting soil, or push a hole in the potted dirt / plant and put a little bit in holes surround the root ball of the plant.

Gabe15
03-08-2009, 01:13 PM
Basically what happens is that the fungi grows into the roots of the plant, either sliding between the cells in the roots or actually going into the cells themselves, and the plant and the fungi exchange nutrients. The mycelium of the fungi extends throughout the soil and becomes a symbiotic extended root system for the plant, greatly increasing the plants ability to uptake water and nutrients.

This is why mushrooms are often seen sprouting near the base of trees, because they are in a mycorrhizal association with the tree.

It's a rather complex subject with lots of info out there on it, so to get any useful and in depth details about it your going to have to do some investigating.

Worm_Farmer
03-08-2009, 01:31 PM
Gabe,
Thanks for the more detailed info! There is a lot of info out there.

I was turned on to Mycorrhizae by a guy named Paul Stamets, I would love to get some sport of the giant fungi he talks about and grow that inside and put the mushrooms under trees and plants to rot into the ground, feed to my worms, and mix into potting soil. Here is the video that really got me into Mycorrhiaze in gardening.

YouTube - Paul Stamets: 6 ways mushrooms can save the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5frPV58tY)

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 02:53 PM
Thanks guys!
I was reading up on it till my eyes got crossed.. There is alot of info.... I was looking for personal experience..There is a coop starting up.. AGAIN maybe this is something that we can do to benifit us as community..I will keep an eye on resources and if there is any intrest in a coop here speak up..
Not sure I could pull a coop off but I know someone here can.. (subliminal message Richard can richard can richard can)
Kylie:waving:

turtile
03-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Thanks guys!
I was reading up on it till my eyes got crossed.. There is alot of info.... I was looking for personal experience..There is a coop starting up.. AGAIN maybe this is something that we can do to benifit us as community..I will keep an eye on resources and if there is any intrest in a coop here speak up..
Not sure I could pull a coop off but I know someone here can.. (subliminal message Richard can richard can richard can)
Kylie:waving:

Mycorrhizae have different effects on different plants. Some plants will have trouble growing well without them. They help plants absorb nutrients such as phosphorus and zinc and help in water uptake. The plants get nutrients from the fungi and the fungi get carbohydrates from the plants.

The hyphae from the fungi can increase the root surface area around 10x which helps greatly for the absorption of phosphorus since it is immobile in the soil.

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 03:23 PM
SO this would be something that works best for our water hogs??? aka most Tropcs..

turtile
03-08-2009, 03:37 PM
SO this would be something that works best for our water hogs??? aka most Tropcs..

It depends. You have to remember that the fungi use the energy the plant makes. Usually, the fungi are most beneficial when the fungi supply something that is limiting the plant. If the nutrients are already in good enough supply, there isn't much of an advantage since fungi will be sapping energy from the plant that the plant could be using for itself.

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 03:58 PM
LOL!! Sorry confused again... SO if your plants have all of the nutrients they need this is not beneficial? But how do you know if your plants have all they need? Most of what I grow with the exception of Veggies are a bit high maintenance ..I was thinking this might be a way to approach them organically and to cut down on time spent..???? I have a life times supply of organic matter..LOL We run Cattle.. Is this something that will benefit me or should I just gather more available resources...

Worm_Farmer
03-08-2009, 03:59 PM
SO this would be something that works best for our water hogs??? aka most Tropcs..

I would say Bananas Love it, and Green beans, and lots of others, but some stuff seems like it has no effect what so ever. If you want to do a group buy I might jump in on it depending on what the price's would be. It is very fun to play with.

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 04:17 PM
If we have an interest as a group I will keep track of resources and if anyone here has a resource .. That is good....

Richard
03-08-2009, 09:59 PM
A basic fact to be aware of is that once you have inoculated your soil you don't need to do it again for years ... decades really -- provided there is also elemental carbon in the soil. This is why you see bags of granular "soil conditioner" with both mycorrhizae and humus or humic acid (elemental carbon).

damaclese
03-09-2009, 07:06 AM
Scot turned me on to the Bactria. he gets it for a hydroponic supply. its been awesome for me more roots in a desert invorment is a good thing! its been particularly helpful with transitioning TC plants. they have put on roots at a much faster pace. with are sandy soil roots have to grab the water wail its going by so more in this case seems to be helpful. i just started using it in Jan so we will see if it makes any difference in how the plants handle heat stress. the hydroponic people say it makes a big difference in stressful conditions

harveyc
03-09-2009, 11:53 AM
You can also get some of these benefits directly from compost or "brewing" an aerated compost "tea" with compost. There are many claims out there, though many are not backed up by studies, etc. (though some are). A compost with a lot of brown material will usually have more fungi which is generally considered more suitable for trees, shrubs, etc. for reasons I don't honestly remember.

Richard
03-09-2009, 12:16 PM
... A compost with a lot of brown material will usually have more fungi which is generally considered more suitable for trees, shrubs, etc. for reasons I don't honestly remember.

Most people will understand that it is unnatural for roots of trees and shrubs to encounter fresh green plant material below the ground level.

harveyc
03-09-2009, 12:23 PM
I'm not sure how your comment relates to anything I wrote, Richard.

harveyc
03-09-2009, 12:25 PM
Maybe I need to clarify: a compost made with a more wood chips and less green material, for instance, will have more fungi and less bacteria than a compost made with more green material and less brown material. Composts with higher fungi populations reportedly produce a slime that is acidic and such composts (and teas made from such composts) are supposedly better for trees than ones made with lower fungi levels.

turtile
03-09-2009, 03:22 PM
LOL!! Sorry confused again... SO if your plants have all of the nutrients they need this is not beneficial? But how do you know if your plants have all they need? Most of what I grow with the exception of Veggies are a bit high maintenance ..I was thinking this might be a way to approach them organically and to cut down on time spent..???? I have a life times supply of organic matter..LOL We run Cattle.. Is this something that will benefit me or should I just gather more available resources...

You'll have to test out the effect it has under the conditions in which you're growing the plants.

I found this (http://www.agronomy-journal.org/index.php?option=article&access=standard&Itemid=129&url=/articles/agro/pdf/2005/03/a5009.pdf) by doing a quick google search. They seem to have had to success with bacteria and fungus but I don't know the conditions in which they were grown. It also did not test the benefit of mycorrhizae alone.

At my local Ace Hardware, they sold jars of mycorrhizae last year. Be aware that you have to incorporate it into the soil.

Maybe I need to clarify: a compost made with a more wood chips and less green material, for instance, will have more fungi and less bacteria than a compost made with more green material and less brown material. Composts with higher fungi populations reportedly produce a slime that is acidic and such composts (and teas made from such composts) are supposedly better for trees than ones made with lower fungi levels.

Are you talking about the Carbon-Nitrogen Ratio? When you apply compost that has a high amount of carbon compared to nitrogen, it actually locks up the nitrogen available to the plants. Soil organism need both N and C and if nitrogen is in low supply, they will absorb all of the nitrogen in the soil. Thats why its important to allow compost to decompose. The organisms release the C as CO2 which allows the compost to have a higher ratio of N.

Different types of composts have different C:N ratios. Wood chips are high in C. Applying a good amount of fresh wood chips to soil will cause nitrogen deficiency in the plants since the organisms will absorb the N in the soil. Organic forms of nitrogen such as urea will acidify the soil as they change form.

harveyc
03-09-2009, 03:55 PM
Are you talking about the Carbon-Nitrogen Ratio? When you apply compost that has a high amount of carbon compared to nitrogen, it actually locks up the nitrogen available to the plants. Soil organism need both N and C and if nitrogen is in low supply, they will absorb all of the nitrogen in the soil. Thats why its important to allow compost to decompose. The organisms release the C as CO2 which allows the compost to have a higher ratio of N.

Different types of composts have different C:N ratios. Wood chips are high in C. Applying a good amount of fresh wood chips to soil will cause nitrogen deficiency in the plants since the organisms will absorb the N in the soil. Organic forms of nitrogen such as urea will acidify the soil as they change form.

I specifically said compost made from a high percentage of brown material such as wood chips, so it should have been clear I was talking of compost, not of fresh wood chips which I made no mention of. Fungi are more commonly associated with composting wood chips according to materials I've read.

Further, I was mentioning the use of aerated compost tea made from compost which clearly would not tie up soil nitrogen. In fact, these microbes are fundamental to the process of making much of the nitrogen available for plant utilization.

damaclese
03-10-2009, 03:43 PM
how come every time we discus soil chemistry or any thing chemical in nature things get tense?

Kylie2x
03-10-2009, 04:13 PM
Not tension... A healthy exchange of ideas.. Sometimes it is hard to express your self/question /share info.. This is the net and we are not face to face over a cup of coffee or a frosty beverage..
It is easy to misinturpret conversation... I would say "Group HUG" LOLOLOLOLOLOL Okay maybe NOT!!!:ha::ha::ha:
Kylie:bananas_b

harveyc
03-10-2009, 07:50 PM
Cheers, Kylie and gang! :)

For the record, I'm dealing with a lot of anxiety over the health of my son right now.

Kylie2x
03-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Harvey I am sorry to hear your son is having troubles.. I will certainly keep Your Son ,You and your Family in my thoughts and Prayers...
Kylie

Tog Tan
03-11-2009, 02:10 PM
Keep strong Harv, you and your gang will be in my prayers.

saltydad
03-11-2009, 03:29 PM
Harvey, may you and your son have G-d's light shine onto you.

Bob
03-11-2009, 03:43 PM
Harvey, Your son is in my and I'm sure everyones' thoughts and prayers.

Kylie please no group hugs........you know us better than try that(it wouldn't be pretty).

Kylie2x
03-11-2009, 04:33 PM
GROUP HUG!!! I know...hehehe
The visuals on that make me laugh really hard....
:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:

Tog Tan
03-11-2009, 04:41 PM
GROUP HUG!!! I know...hehehe
The visuals on that make me laugh really hard....
:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:

Yo Kylie, just to brighten things up... I'll do the necessary protocol like...

Guys, gals, check your breath, brush ya teeth, this is gonna be a tight situation, Goup Huggie, and ah... mind the arm pits, Oi!...wipe the sweat off!

Gimme a couple more minutes, I can think up more...:ha::ha::ha:

Bob
03-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Spit the cigar out, someone could go blind.

Abnshrek
05-06-2010, 11:08 AM
I was wondering if anyone else actually used this stuff? (whether it be palms or tree or banana's) :^)

NANAMAN
05-06-2010, 11:17 AM
I was wondering if anyone else actually used this stuff? (whether it be palms or tree or banana's) :^)

I've used it! Seemed to make a difference, but with everything else I added, I'm not quite sure.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=19691&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19691)

Abnshrek
05-06-2010, 09:15 PM
I think no matter if its palms or banana's if you dig up one that doesn't have it versus one that don't there's a big difference in the amount of large and small fine roots on the plants. When I run out I just order another 11lb bag from marshall grain company (which is coming up soon) :^) Thanks Brian.. I knew I wasn't just seeing things. lol

Abnshrek
06-21-2010, 01:08 PM
I used 8 oz in the soil around the pup I received, and this pup has woolly roots. :^)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33062&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33062)

Dean W.
06-21-2010, 07:46 PM
I'll have to get some. There's a local places that sales some.

Abnshrek
06-21-2010, 07:52 PM
I'll have to get some. There's a local places that sales some.

If your planting a lot its much cheaper in bulk.. :^)

Nicolas Naranja
06-21-2010, 08:55 PM
Mycorhizae help the plant absorb nutrients from the soil by greatly expanding the reach of individual roots. Several replicated studies have shown that mycorhizae will help a plant take up additional phosphorus in soils that are deficient in phosphorus. That being said, if your soil is already very rich you will not likely see any benefit.

Dean W.
06-22-2010, 05:16 AM
I think it would definitely help my potted plants.

Here is a link that shows some differences.
Mycorrhizae - Natural Organic Home Garden Health Howard Garrett Dirt Doctor (http://www.dirtdoctor.com/organic/garden/view_question/id/2881/)
The Benefits of Mycorrhizal Fungi (http://www.cleanairgardening.com/mycorrhizal.html)

Scott
06-22-2010, 08:05 AM
I may try some too.
We're about 1/2 mile from the ocean. History of home location. 20 years ago this use to be Mangroves. When I dig down about 18", I hit packed sand. Our water line is about 24" below surface. If I dig into the sand foundation, then I feel there is an underground pond that water would sit...potential rot. So our plants really reach outward. Not much for soil resourses except what I bring in from HD and my friend Richard.

Richard
06-22-2010, 10:09 AM
Thanks Scott!

For folks who haven't read all the way down into the depths of this thread, it is worth repeating:
A basic fact to be aware of is that once you have inoculated your soil (with mycorrhizae) you don't need to do it again for years ... decades really -- provided there is also elemental carbon in the soil. This is why you see bags of granular "soil conditioner" with both mycorrhizae and humus or humic acid (elemental carbon).

NANAMAN
06-22-2010, 11:48 AM
I may try some too.
We're about 1/2 mile from the ocean. History of home location. 20 years ago this use to be Mangroves. When I dig down about 18", I hit packed sand. Our water line is about 24" below surface. If I dig into the sand foundation, then I feel there is an underground pond that water would sit...potential rot. So our plants really reach outward. Not much for soil resourses except what I bring in from HD and my friend Richard.

I also live close to the ocean, with a similar foundation, (SAND).
I've added just about any and everything I could get my hands on to the soil ( list too long to compile ). Most of which has had a positive impact as far as I can tell. But the one thing that seems to have the most profound impact on soil improvement (MULCH). Before I started mulching heavily, my top soil was 1 to 2 inches deep. Below that was white sand, now I have to dig at least 2' before I hit sand. Here's a couple pictures to demonstrate.

Before
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33101&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33101)

After
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33097&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33097)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33099&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33099)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=33100&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=33100)

Richard
12-13-2010, 08:04 PM
Here's my wife Sue with her Santa hat peddling 1-lb jars and 25-lb bags at the Luecadia Farmers Market!

http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/image_gallery/Myco-Grow_Display.jpg

Richard
12-27-2010, 02:17 PM
We recently transplanted 360 tissue culture plugs into 4-inch pots. The pots were first loosely filled with soil, and planting holes were made by pushing down in the center with a capped piece of 1/2-inch pipe. Mycorrhizae was then sprinkled into each pot using a kitchen spice shaker. The plants were then placed in the holes.

http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/image_gallery/Mycorrhizae_shaker_300x400.jpg

http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/image_gallery/Prop_bed_with_plugs_300x400.jpg

mango_kush
12-27-2010, 08:46 PM
I hear mychorize works well here because we have sandy soil. I can see a noticeable difference when i throw down a few bags of cheap manure as well.

Abnshrek
08-14-2012, 05:49 AM
I got richard's 25 lbs bag and I throw a handful and mix it in the dirt w/ pups.. I shipped out a couple banana's yesterday that had some bushy roots that are only going to be bushier since the root ball was coated in Mycorrhizae then wrapped up for transport. :^)

PR-Giants
08-14-2012, 10:22 AM
http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/Mycorrhizae.pdf

by Dr. Linda Chalker-Scott, Washington State University.



"When the soil chemistry is significantly changed by the addition of pollutants or contaminants including salts, lime, heavy metals, and fungicides, many mycorrhizal species are unable to function. But by far the most damaging to mycorrhizal health is excessive fertilizer application, especially of those containing phosphate; this includes composted manure and many soilless potting mixes."

"Stop using soluble phosphate fertilizer! If soil tests show you’ve got too much phosphate already, research has found that conservative additions of nitrogen fertilizer or organic material can increase mycorrhizal infectivity."

"Yet numerous studies have demonstrated that phosphate fertilizer is deadly to mycorrhizal associations."

"Healthy soils naturally contain indigenous mycorrhizae. Adding packaged mycorrhizae to such soils is a waste of money and resources."

Abnshrek
08-20-2012, 09:36 AM
Well I add soil for raised beds since I have clay so I add Mycorrhizae and I get Bushy roots..
Banana Gallery - Bushy roots (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990) I should have taken a picture of the CG I just dug up it was in the ground 5 weeks.. :^)

PR-Giants
08-20-2012, 11:21 PM
Well I add soil for raised beds since I have clay so I add Mycorrhizae and I get Bushy roots..
Banana Gallery - Bushy roots (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990) I should have taken a picture of the CG I just dug up it was in the ground 5 weeks.. :^)

One of the points Dr. Linda Chalker-Scott, of Washington State University is trying to make is...
If you do decide to buy mycorrhizae then buy a product that was specifically manufactured for your area of the country because only the indigenous mycorrhizae will survive.
Do not spend many hours looking for a product that was specifically manufactured for your area of the country because it does not exist.

The other point is to make people aware that they could be killing indigenous mycorrhizae by adding too much phosphates to their soil.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with throwing away money, this is a good opportunity for the money to find a more secure home.

bananimal
08-20-2012, 11:48 PM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with throwing away money, this is a good opportunity for the money to find a more secure home.

LOL --- good one!

Abnshrek
08-21-2012, 01:06 AM
The other point is to make people aware that they could be killing indigenous mycorrhizae by adding too much phosphates to their soil.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with throwing away money, this is a good opportunity for the money to find a more secure home.
For 7 bucks a pound Richard can secure my well spent money. All I know is I have an advantage growing stuff in a neglible area. Any advantage I tend to put to use.. That's my bottom line.. :^)

Worm_Farmer
08-21-2012, 07:23 PM
For 7 bucks a pound Richard can secure my well spent money. All I know is I have an advantage growing stuff in a neglible area. Any advantage I tend to put to use.. That's my bottom line.. :^)

Awesome PRICE!

This is what I just got, I have had really good luck with this one. I like it because it has more than just 1 type of mycorrhizae

PR-Giants
08-22-2012, 09:40 PM
Well I add soil for raised beds since I have clay so I add Mycorrhizae and I get Bushy roots..
Banana Gallery - Bushy roots (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50220&cat=1990) I should have taken a picture of the CG I just dug up it was in the ground 5 weeks.. :^)

What you are describing is exactly the opposite of what the product should be doing,
but then you say - Hey look how great it works.

The only logical explanation is that you don't understand the function of mycorrhizae.


This is an excerpt from an article from the University of Florida.

For some plant species, the association with mycorrhizal fungi is indispensable. The degree of dependence varies with plant species, particularly the root morphology, and conditions of soil and climate.

Plants with thick roots, poorly branched and with few root hairs, are usually more dependent on mycorrhizae for normal growth and development.

These species include onions, grapes, citrus, cassava, coffee, and tropical legumes. When the level of soil fertility and humidity are increased, the dependence on the mycorrhizal condition decreases to a point where the plant becomes immune to colonization.


I know the "Placebo Effect" does work on some humans, but I don't believe it works on plants.

Abnshrek
08-22-2012, 10:14 PM
What you are describing is exactly the opposite of what the product should be doing, but then you say - Hey look how great it works. The only logical explanation is that you don't understand the function of mycorrhizae..

That's presuming a bit much.. I'm not spitting hairs. I think Worm Farmer said it best.. You use it, you don't that's up to you. A U of Florida excerpt of an article isn't going to help me much if at all unless the study is clay soil, but most likely it's in sand. So if I had the article in hand it might help me start a fire and that's about it. :^)

PR-Giants
08-22-2012, 10:53 PM
That's presuming a bit much.. I'm not spitting hairs. I think Worm Farmer said it best.. You use it, you don't that's up to you. A U of Florida excerpt of an article isn't going to help me much if at all unless the study is clay soil, but most likely it's in sand. So if I had the article in hand it might help me start a fire and that's about it. :^)

I apologize, a 5 sentence excerpt is a bit long. See if this is easier for you, here are 2 sentences from the article.

Plants with thick roots, poorly branched and with few root hairs, are usually more dependent on mycorrhizae for normal growth and development.

When the level of soil fertility and humidity are increased, the dependence on the mycorrhizal condition decreases to a point where the plant becomes immune to colonization.



There is absolutely nothing wrong with reading and learning. and you can always burn the books when you are finished.

Abnshrek
08-23-2012, 12:55 AM
I apologize.
Your probably right..you should to yourself.. :^)
Plants with thick roots, poorly branched and with few root hairs, are usually more dependent on mycorrhizae for normal growth and development. When the level of soil fertility and humidity are increased, the dependence on the mycorrhizal condition decreases to a point where the plant becomes immune to colonization.

Does the study say what material was used for the study? They say dependence decreases, but I don't think anyone has optimum fertility in soil to the point of us using the product in question is futile. If pulled a plant out of the ground that had the root mass without using Mycorrhizae of one where I did I'd probably save myself a couple bucks now wouldn't I.. If you didn't know it I'm here to help people, not create conflict or degrade an individual. What's your motivation? Mine is plants, helping others when I can, and being Happy :^)

harveyc
08-23-2012, 01:28 AM
Please keep comments respectful and productive....or else! :)

Worm_Farmer
08-23-2012, 12:08 PM
I dont want to fight with anyone. And i know the way i use myco is not txt book. But i can tell you without any doubt in my mind it works on everything i have. I will agree it has a better effect on some plants than others. Like my blue berrys have tons of small roots now but i dont see a lot of growth because of it. My cherry tree seemed to sit still for 3 months after i put it in the ground after myco it is now growing and seems to be growing fast right now. It seems that my pear tree was triggered to flower and has lots of flowers on it right now. I also use humic acid 2 - 3 times a year and love the effects i see from humic. I will also mix my myco, humic, and fish together for a smelly batch that i call super mix.

Is this the right way to use these products? Great question and i dont know. What i do know is that they dont burn and the plants respond and for the amount i spend im more than happy with what i see.

Abnshrek
08-23-2012, 12:49 PM
That's what I'm talking about.. Just wing-it.. My G/F hates it when I use fish.. stinkin' up my back porch.. lol The fish has my 2nd orange tree blooming, and the reason I have grapefruit on my 2nd tree as well. Tomorrow I'm getting a new mixer that really lays it down. I can get 42 gallons out in 12 minutes (alot better than 1 gpm for 15 gal). :^)

PR-Giants
08-24-2012, 04:38 PM
What you have been noticing is commonly referred to as BRS, what you may not have noticed yet is that the roots are shorter.
It is important to remember that there is no "Magic Pill" or as in this case no "Magic Powder".

Although "Magic Pixie Dust" appears to be real.

'Pixie Dust' made from pig bladders regrows limbs of wounded soldiers | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1270990/Pixie-Dust-pig-bladders-regrows-limbs-wounded-soldiers.html)


Topics in Subtropics - Agriculture and Natural Resources Blogs (http://ucanr.org/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=6369)

Indeed many manufacturers of mycorrhizal inoculants add other ingredients to increase product efficacy.

bananimal
08-24-2012, 08:01 PM
The myco product I'm using has Mycorrhizae, Humic acid, Kelp extracts and Cottonseed meal.

Hey, maybe that's why one of the set back Ae Ae finally took off. Cottonseed meal at 75% of the mix is acid forming --- dropped the pH. :woohoonaner:

Got a 50 lb bag of the Cotton from a cow feed store this year. Have been using it on the blue berries mainly. Will start putting it on the other Ae Ae.

Thanks for the tweak guys.