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coolrobby2003
02-21-2009, 04:25 PM
I hope i did this correctly i pruned all 4 Grape vines down to about 1-2 feet off the ground! The only thing is i did not see much for 1 year growth only old wood branches! What you see in pics is all there is left!
Please grade them for me?
Planted on April 14th, 2004
P.S. Should i take them all the way down too the ground?
Niagara
Catawba
Concord
Seedless Concord

Dalmatiansoap
02-21-2009, 04:48 PM
Much better. Should do this two years ago. Grape vines gives first great bunches of grapes in 3th year if grown properly. Now some of new shoths can be more than 10ft long if u cut new growth leaves properly.
Best luck
:woohoonaner:

damaclese
02-21-2009, 05:07 PM
what do you mean if the new growth is prund properly dose that mean dont let the new groth get to more than 10ft in lanth?

Chironex
02-21-2009, 05:35 PM
I commented in your photo Robby. Train the 2 younger canes horizontally, one in each direction. Cut off all other canes for this year. You can let the new shoots grow from these 2 canes this year. You can let the new shoots grow this year due to the severe pruning. Next winter, you will prune a bit less as you get the vines trained properly. Since they are planted so close together, perhaps pruning one of them in one direction and the other in the opposite direction will be best for you. So the left vine will be pruned to look like a backwards "F" and the vine on the right will be pruned to resemble an "F". Just keep training the new shoots as they grow to make them do what you want.
It looks like you cut some of the first year growth. All of your new shoots will come from this wood this spring. These new shoots are what you want to train into the shape I have described.
(The older wood will not put out any shoots.)

Although Ohio States diagram is for a single cordon, head-trained vine system, you can also use a high-low cordon system because you have vines right next to each other.
Here is a link with a diagram as well as some tips.
Basic Principles of Pruning Backyard Grapevines, HYG-1428-2004 (http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1428.html)

Richard
02-21-2009, 06:24 PM
I'm a big fan of the double-Kniffin system.

Dalmatiansoap
02-22-2009, 05:49 AM
what do you mean if the new growth is prund properly dose that mean dont let the new groth get to more than 10ft in lanth?
All depends on vines purpose. Is it growth for grape for making vine or for shade. Im afraid that I cannot explain that good couse my English is not so good in agri therms. Sorry
:woohoonaner:

Chironex
02-22-2009, 10:49 PM
I'm a big fan of the double-Kniffin system.

The Double Kniffin is great for most wine grapes of the Vitus vinifera group for sure, but a single curtain is best in the midwest for American varieties or some French-American hybrids.

With Robby's set-up being next to his garage, I suggested a single curtain system, with the modifcation to a one-sided double curtain based upon the space limitations, proximity of the vines, vigor and cultivars that he's growing. Consideration must also be given to whether the particular vine being grown are to be shoot or cane trained, depending upon vigor and growth habit.

Here is another link that you might find helpful. http://www.co.allen.in.us/images/stories/Purdue%20CES/Horticulture/ach20.pdf