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Kylie2x
02-14-2009, 02:03 PM
There is a coop going on @ Daves .. The plants are coming from agi-starts.. If you are a member they have some great deals on Banana's as well as other things.. It would be cool if we could do something like that here in the future..
Just FYI!
Kylie:waving:
Chironex
02-14-2009, 02:35 PM
There is a coop going on @ Daves .. The plants are coming from agi-starts.. If you are a member they have some great deals on Banana's as well as other things.. It would be cool if we could do something like that here in the future..
Just FYI!
Kylie:waving:
Thanks Kylie, I suggested this some time ago and it died on the vine. Perhaps this post of yours will generate renewed interest.
Kylie2x
02-14-2009, 02:40 PM
Ends tomorrow!!!
Sorry I missed it I haven't been around much.. or in a while..
Nice to finally find the time...LOL Missed Ya'll
Kylie
Caloosamusa
02-14-2009, 04:55 PM
Thank you for the information on Agri-starts! I will let them know with my next order I'm a member. :-)
enigma99a
02-14-2009, 05:34 PM
I need some agi-starts :P it's past frost danger here in Sacramento, so I am eager to start my jungle again lol
enigma99a
02-15-2009, 01:06 AM
I think I would like to plant some Sabas this year. Any idea where I can get the best deal?
Caloosamusa
02-15-2009, 06:43 AM
:ha:
tophersmith
02-15-2009, 09:22 AM
I think I would like to plant some Sabas this year. Any idea where I can get the best deal?
I would check with chris (Rmplmnz) to see if any of his are up for sale as they are true specimans, just look at his photos.
sultry_jasmine_nights
02-17-2009, 01:21 PM
It is still open to orders as of right now, they need more orders to make some of the 72 trays. They have lots of bananas (including the Siam Ruby) , alocasias, and colocasias :)
Richard
02-17-2009, 02:27 PM
There is a coop going on @ Daves ..
@ Daves = ????
buzzwinder
02-17-2009, 07:20 PM
@ Daves = ????
Daves Garden it's a website for gardeners. Dave's Garden: Gardening Tips, Seeds, and Design; Flower Gardens, Organic Gardening (http://davesgarden.com/)
chong
02-17-2009, 09:45 PM
There is a coop going on @ Daves .. The plants are coming from agi-starts.. If you are a member they have some great deals on Banana's as well as other things.. It would be cool if we could do something like that here in the future..
Just FYI!
Kylie:waving:
It is still open to orders as of right now, they need more orders to make some of the 72 trays. They have lots of bananas (including the Siam Ruby) , alocasias, and colocasias :)
I logged in several times before, and I'm logged in now, but I can't find the forum/thread that this coop is in. Do you guys remember the heading for this thread is?
Thanks.
Chong
enigma99a
02-18-2009, 05:29 AM
It's already done and over :( I totally missed the boat
Richard
02-18-2009, 10:34 AM
It's already done and over :( I totally missed the boat
No problem, let's organize some tray orders here!
enigma99a
02-18-2009, 06:00 PM
Yes that is a good idea... who has the ability to order from them and is willing to be a coordinator? :)
so, I'm new here, but if someone has ability to get it together, i would go in son some siam ruby, alo & colocasia. My garden needs a total re-do after this past winter.
Richard
02-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Yes that is a good idea... who has the ability to order from them and is willing to be a coordinator? :)
O.K., I can do this. Also, you won't need to pay me in advance. After the TC's arrive here, you can pay me online and I will ship them to you. You will only pay for the actual cost of your plants and your share of postal charges. I can ship a flat's worth anywhere in the U.S. by priority mail for $13.
TWO IMPORTANT THINGS:
1. Agri-Starts sells by the flat -- 72 TC's. They will allow a mixed flat, such as half one variety and half of another, and sometimes (rarely) a flat with 4 varieties. So if you want 1 of something and no one else does, we will not order it.
2. We can't order anything that is not on their availability list: http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm
If you are still interested, please reply to this thread. I will start a tally and post it somewhere for all to view.
damaclese
02-20-2009, 11:41 AM
thanks for that offer Richard this has become a hot topic theas day i just got a flat so im good for this month but all probly have some orders for later this year
harveyc
02-20-2009, 04:38 PM
Thanks, for offering to head this up Richard. If there is enough demand, I'd be willing to go for a few each of 'Ebun Musak' and 'Kandarian'.
enigma99a
02-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Harvey, how does the Kandarian do in our zone? I would be interested in some of them too.. And Siam Ruby. (About 12 of them) Basically I will probably help out others if demand is low :)
They look so good for tropical landscape infill bananas like truly tiny and Musa Beccarii. Not sure what demand is like on those though.
Caloosamusa
02-20-2009, 08:15 PM
FYI,
During the cold weather here Ebun Musak held up as well as Musa balbisiana variety Thai Black.
It is a good cultivar in cool weather.
I hope this is appreciated by my California friends,
Best wishes
harveyc
02-20-2009, 09:50 PM
I'm not really sure how Kandarian will do but it is one which ripens quicker than most so I'd like to try it again. I killed one indoors in a pot (I think it became root bound and dried out while I went on vacation). I'd like to grow some of these types (Viente Cohol included) as an annual, starting pups in the greenhouse in the winter and setting them out in the spring in hopes of fruit maturing by fall. We just need something that has a wider window than something that takes 5-6 months to mature.
You wrote earlier that the risk of frost has passed. Don't be fooled by this mild weather. We had frost in late March last year. Our official normal last frost date is something like 3/20 but last year we had frost after that. If you lose any plants due to frost in March or later I suggest you ask Gore for a refund. ;)
beautiful. Thanks. I would go in on about a dozen Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles', a few siam ruby, &/or, deffering to the wisdom of any/all others on this site who would offer better suggestions for me in seattle, zone 8, for some with darkest leaf, others with a glaucous blue leaf. Or, since I'm basically clueless, impulsive, & desperate, would also try Musa Ele Ele, Raja Puri, Red Iholene, White Iholene, Ensete Ventricosum Maurelii
enigma99a
02-21-2009, 01:52 AM
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Richard
02-21-2009, 03:35 AM
Here's the tally I have so far. I will do this about once per day until sometime in March when things settle down to a steady state.
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
enigma99a
02-21-2009, 05:16 AM
Richard, take me off for the Margarita. I didn't realize they were not red. Also, Raja Puri would be great but Agri-Starts won't have them for quite a while..
Thanks for doing this Richard, if there is enough demand I'd definately be interested in "Itinerans", "Kalela" and a few "Truly tiny". Amounts can be adjusted to fit. Thanks again, Bob
I haven't heard of any one here growing Kalela, it seems to be a 6-8' sport of dwarf brazilian with bigger fruits(can't hurt to solicit right?).
harveyc
02-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Not to discourage you, Bob, but I've heard from a couple of guys in Florida that say that Dwarf Brazilian takes six months to mature which really makes it a tough one in our marginal climate.
I'm really wanting more of the fast ones like Viente Cohol, etc. that can mature even if they bloom in August or early September. I've heard they are having some problems with Viente Cohol in TC, though.
JCDerrick
02-21-2009, 12:43 PM
Here's my list (mostly alocasia and colocasia). As for what's on the list so far. Add me for Musa Siam Ruby (3), Musa Ele Ele (5), and Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles' (10).
New items. Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty' (10), Alocasia 'Portora' (5), and Xanthosoma sagittifolium (10), '1000 Fingers' (3), Musa 'Praying Hands' (5), and Colocasia esculenta 'Elena' (5).
Thanks,
John
Ueberwinden
02-21-2009, 10:57 PM
I have a order shipping from Agri-Starts on Tuesday. I will have a tray of Basjoo and Zebrina. I would like to get a few small lots of other varieties. I would like 5 Siam Ruby, 5 Black Ruffles, I would like 5 or 10 Musa Kru if anyone else would be interested in this variety. 5 +/- Dwarf Orinoco. 5 Musa Bordelon. Let me know so I can figure out how much I will owe to who.
Michael
momoese
02-21-2009, 11:27 PM
Richard, take me off for the Margarita. I didn't realize they were not red. Also, Raja Puri would be great but Agri-Starts won't have them for quite a while..
Take a guess in my "USA only" contest and if you win I'll send you a Raja Puri pup.
"USA Only" contest? I'm intrigued. What is it? I'm such a plant wh@re, I'd doabout anything for a free pup *blushes meekly*
chong
02-22-2009, 12:08 AM
"USA Only" contest? I'm intrigued. What is it? I'm such a plant wh@re, I'd doabout anything for a free pup *blushes meekly*
Welcome to a fellow Seattleite!
Here's the link:
http://www.bananas.org/f211/usa-only-contest-free-banana-pup-7148.html
Richard
02-22-2009, 12:24 AM
Here's the latest update:
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
Note: some requests were omitted because they do not appear on the Agri-Starts availability list: http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm
Sorry about that Richard , just got exited and checked listings, not availability....Bob
Thank you , Chong! And Wow, do I ever have questions for you!! Would you mind if I PM you to pluck your brain for some wisdom about growing bananas up here?
chong
02-22-2009, 07:10 PM
Thank you , Chong! And Wow, do I ever have questions for you!! Would you mind if I PM you to pluck your brain for some wisdom about growing bananas up here?
You're welcome, Xysx! You can PM me anytime. Looks like our numbers in the PNW are growing. This coming summer, we might try and have a small get together, time permitting.
Not to discourage you, Bob, but I've heard from a couple of guys in Florida that say that Dwarf Brazilian takes six months to mature which really makes it a tough one in our marginal climate.
I'm really wanting more of the fast ones like Viente Cohol, etc. that can mature even if they bloom in August or early September. I've heard they are having some problems with Viente Cohol in TC, though.
Thanks Harvey, not discouraged at all. I'm waiting on a V.C. at the moment but that'll be up to Going Bananas if I get it this year. Still I'm collecting Hardy, Fruiting , Tall and Ornamentals till they prove I either can't overwinter via "big dog" or "on the porch with metal halides" or the old reliable hay bales and tarp.( or when I run out of room, working on that too.)
Haven't had one flower yet so I can't be discouraged till then.
enigma99a
02-23-2009, 11:41 PM
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Richard
02-24-2009, 01:00 AM
Reading this thread for the 1st time?
We are putting together an order of tissue culture plants from AgriStarts.
Choose plants from the AgriStarts list: http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm
Reply to this thread to indicate what plants you want
The order will be placed sometime in March
You will only be charged actual cost of your plants + your share of actual shipping costs
No payment required until I receive the plants from AgriStarts. I will provide you with an online payment system -- or you can mail me a check, pay in person, etc.
Our final order must be in full flats (72 per flat). Flats can contain a mixture to some extent, but a flat of singletons is not going to make it. Quantities of 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 are encouraged.
Currently our total is about 2.25 flats. If you are a participant, I encourage you to mention this thread in other Bananas.org forums. :D
A tally of requests is available here (does not "track" visitors):
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
:woohoonaner:
harveyc
02-24-2009, 02:14 AM
Please change my "a few" on Musa 'Kandarian' and Musa 'Ebun Musak' to 4 each. Also, add 4 each of Musa 'Glui Kai' and Musa 'High Color Mini'.
What does the CVT behind some of the cultivar names signify?
Thanks, Richard, your handling of this is greatly appreciated.
Harvey
Chironex
02-24-2009, 02:42 AM
Richard,
However these fit into the order is fine. I realize that we can only order trays split up only so much, so if some of these can't be ordered, it's okay with me. If I need to order more a certain variety to balance the order, just let me know.
Thank you for doing this.
Scot
2 Basjoo
2 Bordelon
2 Glenn
2 High Color Mini
2 Kandrian
2 Thai Black
2 Misi Luki
2 Rowe Red
2 Dwarf Red green
2 Sumatrana X cross
2 Rose
2 Manii - if available
2 Beccarii
Bananaman88
02-24-2009, 10:27 AM
Scot,
I have some M. mannii I could spare if you can't order any.
By the way, I'm heading out to Vegas this Friday.
hatfam
02-24-2009, 12:00 PM
Richard,
Please add me to the list
Ensete ventricosum Maurelii - 3
Musa 1000 Fingers -3
Musa Dwarf Orinoco -3
Musa Praying Hands -3
Musa Raja Puri -3
Musa Siam Ruby -3
Also if the numbers need to be adjusted that is fine w/me.
Thanks
Tom
enigma99a
02-24-2009, 02:14 PM
If Musa Raja Puri is available at the time of order, I would like 9
Ueberwinden
02-24-2009, 02:58 PM
I just spoke to my sales rep about my order that ships today and I asked her about Raja Puri. She said there expected to be available in April but if I was wanting them I should prebook them now because they are expected to go quick.
Michael
sunfish
02-24-2009, 03:47 PM
GLENN
GLUI KAI
HIGH COLOR MINI
MARGARITA
TRULY TINY
3 of each
To fill an order a few more or afew less is fine with me.
Thanks,Richard
harveyc
02-24-2009, 11:57 PM
Okay, Richard, I'm curious: what's on your personal list???
Taylor
02-25-2009, 12:02 AM
What does the CVT behind some of the cultivar names signify?
Harvey
Something about Virus Testing...certifying that the plantlets are not passing on any viruses from the mother plant or something like that.
harveyc
02-25-2009, 12:50 AM
Something about Virus Testing...certifying that the plantlets are not passing on any viruses from the mother plant or something like that.
Thanks. Yeah, I found in this catalog (warming: 9MB) http://www.agristarts.com/ASCAT09.pdf that it stands for "certified virus tested". Makes me feel all warm and cozy! ;)
Richard
02-25-2009, 01:57 AM
If you are reading this thread for the first time, please see: Post #64802 (http://www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post64802)
The total as of tonight is here:
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
Okay, Richard, I'm curious: what's on your personal list???
A few climate-appropriate plants for San Diego, plus some insurance on plants I already own.
enigma99a
02-25-2009, 02:47 AM
Update my totals:
Kandarian [2]
Truly Tiny [6]
sandy0225
02-25-2009, 07:43 AM
If you need someone to "bat clean up" and up the totals on some of these, let me know. They don't split liners less than 4 ways, so you need 18 of each kind, or 36, or 54, or 72. I'd be happy to up the totals on some of these to bring them up to 18 to help out so people can get the ones they want.
Taylor
02-25-2009, 01:55 PM
I know that i would be interested in some...but my method might be to wait until it all pans out and then throw myself on a few. I could be the person who makes the number go from 17 to 18 or 30 to 32, whatever.
Richard
02-28-2009, 02:30 AM
Reading this thread for the 1st time?
We are putting together an order of tissue culture plants from AgriStarts.
Choose plants from the AgriStarts list: http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm
Reply to this thread to indicate what plants you want
The order will be placed sometime in March
You will only be charged actual cost of your plants + your share of actual shipping costs
No payment required until I receive the plants from AgriStarts. I will provide you with an online payment system -- or you can mail me a check, pay in person, etc.
Our final order must be in full flats (72 per flat). Flats can contain a mixture to some extent, but a flat of singletons is not going to make it. Quantities of 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 are encouraged.
A tally of requests is available here (does not "track" visitors):
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
:woohoonaner:
sunfish
02-28-2009, 11:34 AM
I don't see praying hands or thousand finger on agri-starts list are these available. Thanks
markmcb
02-28-2009, 01:32 PM
My choices are:
Ice Cream-2
Red Iholene-2
Alocasia Lutea-2
Thanx for this great idea
r3tic
02-28-2009, 02:29 PM
out of courosity....does anyone know what the approximate cost per plant would be?
Thanks again Richard, (you knew this would happen right? ). Could I add some high color minis to my request? Up to 9 if that will help make enough to fill requirements for order. Less if any one else wants a couple, completely flexible on this. Thanks , Bob
Kylie2x
02-28-2009, 03:28 PM
WOW!!! Great Job!!
Let me ask a question.. On the other co-op you could have a mixed flat
18-18-18-18 or 24-24-24 with an additional charge of $18 per flat.. Is that the case here as well? AND is it alright to order just a few.. I think I have already bought about 120 plants over there BUT being the plant HO I am it is hard to pass up a deal..LMAO!!!
Kylie:bananas_b
Richard
02-28-2009, 07:23 PM
O.K. folks, now it is time to start getting those plant totals up to a minimum of 18, and in some multiple of 18, 24, or 72.
If you are reading this for the first time, please see post# 65244 (http://www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post65244)
Now to answer some questions:
I don't see praying hands or thousand finger on agri-starts list are these available. Thanks
Tony, they are not available. Thanks for catching this error. Either we got carried away or AgriStarts' list has been modified.
My choices are:
Ice Cream-2
Red Iholene-2
Alocasia Lutea-2
I did not find Alocasia Lutea on the Agristart list.
out of curiosity....does anyone know what the approximate cost per plant would be?
Anywhere between $2 and $40, depending how many you order and how difficult it is for the US Postal service to find you.
... you knew this would happen right? ...
Yes. :D
Let me ask a question..
Please see post# 65244 (http://www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post65244)
:woohoonaner:
Kylie2x
02-28-2009, 07:33 PM
Thanks!!!
YEP!!! Guilty of scanning the thread and not completely reading it..SORRY!
Kylie
1aday
02-28-2009, 08:19 PM
Before I order, does anyone have any info on Musa Glenn?
Thanks so much for doing this, Richard!
sunfish
02-28-2009, 08:32 PM
what happend to 36
chong
02-28-2009, 09:05 PM
what happend to 36
36 is a multiple of 18. (2 X 18 = 36)
chong
02-28-2009, 09:33 PM
Here are some acceptable combinations:
In equal #:
24+24+24 = 72
36+36 = 72
18+18+18+18=72
Unequal #s:
36+18+18 = 72
54+18 = 72
Agristarts requires a minimum of 18 or multiples thereof of any one variety. Hence, you cannot have a combination of 36+12+12+12; 36+24+12; 24+24+12+12; etc., or any combination containing anything less than 18 of any one variety.
1aday
02-28-2009, 10:00 PM
2 Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty'**************************
4 Alocasia 'Portora'*********
3 Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles'
3 Colocasia esculenta 'Elena'
5 Ensete ventricosum Maurelii****************
4 Musa Basjoo
2 Musa Beccani
2 Musa Bordelon
3 Musa Double
3 Musa Dwarf Namwa
4 Musa Dwarf Orinoco
1 Musa Dwarf Red Green
1 Musa Ebun Musak
2 Musa Glenn
2 Musa Glui Kai
5 Musa Gran Nain
5 Musa High Color Mini
3 Musa Ice Cream
1 Musa Kru
2 Musa Manii
3 Musa Margarita
2 Musa Misi Luki
2 Musa Praying Hands
3 Musa Raja Puri
5 Musa Rowe Red
2 Musa Red Iholene
5 Musa Siam Ruby
3 Musa Sumatrana X cross
5 Musa Thai Black
5 Musa Truly Tiny
2 Musa White Iholene
:02:
Richard
02-28-2009, 11:18 PM
Here are some acceptable combinations:
In equal #:
24+24+24 = 72
36+36 = 72
18+18+18+18=72
Unequal #s:
36+18+18 = 72
54+18 = 72
Agristarts requires a minimum of 18 or multiples thereof of any one variety. Hence, you cannot have a combination of 36+12+12+12; 36+24+12; 24+24+12+12; etc., or any combination containing anything less than 18 of any one variety.
Chong, you are kind to point this out. But behind the scenes there are folks who are going to fill up partial trays. So my basic requirement is unchanged:
The total for any single variety must be a multiple of 18, 24, or 72.
Kylie2x
03-01-2009, 12:24 AM
Richard I did go to the referrenced post you provided ..
Please see post# 65244... and saw the mention of mixed flats..I never saw any mention of a price increase for taking advantage of mixed flats as opposed to a full flat of a single item.. IF the price is different than what you have posted it will change the total price of split flat orders..
IS there a price difference.. there was at the other co-op...
As I understand it that has always been their policy..
Kylie
harveyc
03-01-2009, 12:53 AM
If nobody else wants Kandarian, I am willing to increase mine to by 2 to get the total to 18.
Thanks,
Harvey
Richard
03-01-2009, 02:24 AM
Richard I did go to the referrenced post you provided ..
Please see post# 65244... and saw the mention of mixed flats..I never saw any mention of a price increase for taking advantage of mixed flats as opposed to a full flat of a single item.. IF the price is different than what you have posted it will change the total price of split flat orders..
IS there a price difference.. there was at the other co-op...
As I understand it that has always been their policy..
Kylie
Kylie, I have not posted any price. I have only guaranteed that I will not profit from this adventure: anyone who participates will only pay their share of actual costs. So for example, if you have nine plants in each of six flats, you will pay 9/72 = 12.5% of the cost of each flat and 12.5% of the shipping charge for each flat from AgriStarts to me (zipcode 92129). In addition, you will also pay the full cost of shipping your 9*6 = 54 plants from my place to yours in a USPS flat rate box. Since the post office provides the boxes for free, there is no cost for shipping materials -- or for the trip to the post office because I go there often to mail orders from my website business.
Now as far as how much AgriStarts charges for full flats and mixed flats, you will have to check with them for that information.
I hope this helps!
Kylie2x
03-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I have sent a PM to you
Kylie
Taylor
03-01-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm trying to see if this will work. Here are the prices:
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&attid=0.3&thid=11fa4f591fab1ab8&mt=application%2Fpdf&pli=1
Since their website doesn't show the prices with the availability...
Taylor
03-01-2009, 01:24 PM
I hate the be the "2" person here...but...
2 Truly Tiny
2 Siam Ruby
2 Col. Black Ruffles
2 Bordelon
2 D. Orinoco
1 Kandarian (Harvey, you taking the other?)
Richard, I can not thank you enough. Honestly.
I might be the most flexible here. As it all continues to pan out, can I butt in and ask to be taken off or added on to ones that need one more or one less? I figure I should put in my general numbers right now so I don't slow the process near the end.
One last thing- I understand that half of them on the list on your website will not make the cut, and probably a few of the ones I have selected won't. I will want to switch to another if this happens. If that made any sense...
Can we put the list in order from greatest to least, Richard? I kept getting confused on what was the closest to full.
Thanks again!
Kylie2x
03-01-2009, 02:29 PM
Taylor..
the way the numbers will have to work is that at the very least 16 other Truly Tiny's would have to be sold to make a mixed flat..and fill the flat with at the most 3 other varities..(.increments shown below..)
This will be important at the end of everyone placing orders becoz you will have to make the #'s to fill a flat.
MIXED FLAT INFO. the option to order a mixed flat of 72. No more than 4 varieties to the mix, per flat. 18-18-18-18 or 24-24-24 or 36-36. The additional charge to mix a flat is $18.00. That increases the plant price by .25 each
1aday
03-01-2009, 02:43 PM
Here are the prices for full flats of 72
As Kylie said, splitting flats costs an extra $18, or about 25 cents per plant.
These prices do not include shipping to Richard or on to us.
The plants without prices are not on the current availability list.
Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty'************************** $0.88
Alocasia 'Portora'********* $0.95
Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles' $1.20
Colocasia esculenta 'Elena' $1.50
Ensete ventricosum Maurelii**************** $2.00
Musa Basjoo $1.50
Musa Beccani
Musa Bordelon $1.50
Musa Double $1.50
Musa Dwarf Namwa $1.10
Musa Dwarf Orinoco $1.10
Musa Dwarf Red Green $1.10
Musa Ebun Musak $1.50
Musa Glenn $1.50
Musa Glui Kai $1.50
Musa Gran Nain $1.15
Musa High Color Mini $1.15
Musa Ice Cream $1.15
Musa Kru $1.50
Musa Manii
Musa Margarita $1.00
Musa Misi Luki $1.50
Musa Praying Hands
Musa Raja Puri $1.10
Musa Rose
Musa Rowe Red $1.25
Musa Red Iholene
Musa Siam Ruby $2.50
Musa Sumatrana X cross $0.95
Musa Thai Black $2.00
Musa Truly Tiny $1.15
Musa White Iholene
Xanthosoma sagittifolium
Check out those prices, folks! What a deal!!!!
Kylie2x
03-01-2009, 02:53 PM
Great job 1aday... They do have alot of other things to offer than what is listed there even Blueberries..LOL:goteam:
so you don't have to all the way back and look for the availability link..
http://www.agristarts.com/avail.htm
saltydad
03-01-2009, 02:55 PM
2 Bordelon
2 High Color Mini
2 Siam Ruby
Hope this works out. Richard, you are a god for doing this. Thank you. Thank you.
Taylor
03-01-2009, 02:57 PM
But doesn't Truly Tiny already have 11? +2= 13
So wouldn't we only need 5 more?
harveyc
03-01-2009, 03:01 PM
1 Kandarian (Harvey, you taking the other?)
Yes, I only increased my request by two to get the number up to 18.
harveyc
03-01-2009, 03:04 PM
I'll add 8 Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty' if that works out. I haven't tried these before so this may be a good chance to give them a try.
Kylie2x
03-01-2009, 03:11 PM
Taylor.. That would be correct.. Just hope everyone gets the split flat
thing..LOL It can get confusing..:bananas_b
hatfam
03-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Richard,
Please add the following to my order:
Alocasia 'Hilo Beauty' 4
Colocasia ' Black Ruffles' 4
Colocasia 'Elana' 4
Musa Double 4
Dwarf Namwa 4
Dwarf Red Green 4
Musa ice cream 3
(This order needs to be placed very soon. My wife is going to kill me :ha:)
r3tic
03-01-2009, 04:49 PM
I would like....
Musa Dwarf Orinoco 3
Musa Dwarf Red Green 3
Musa Dwarf Namwa 3
Musa Truly Tiny 3
Musa Dwarf Red 3
Thanks Richard
markmcb
03-01-2009, 08:29 PM
I did not find Alocasia Lutea on the Agristart list.
My apologies, Richard. I was looking on the AgriStarts web page and not on the availability list. 'Tis a shame though, I would love to have a few.
Mark
Richard
03-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Great Job Team !! :goteam:
I need everyone to please look at this updated list and notice two things:
The number you requested might have been adjusted. Please let me know if this created a problem.
Volunteer to accept a few or several plants from those marked "need help".
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
r3tic
03-01-2009, 11:00 PM
I would be interested in ordering 3 bajoos but I did not think they were available.
sunfish
03-01-2009, 11:30 PM
3 EBUN MUSAK
3 SUMATRANA X CROSS
That's the best I can do.
Taylor
03-01-2009, 11:32 PM
2 Elena
3 Maurelii
Again, I will negotiate with someone if they REALLY want one of the above.
markmcb
03-02-2009, 12:00 AM
I would like to add, to help fill flats:
2 Colocasia 'Elena'
2 Musa Ele Ele
sunfish
03-02-2009, 12:09 AM
Musa Ele Ele I Don't See This One On Agri-starts List
markmcb
03-02-2009, 12:21 AM
I didn't see it either, but it was on Richard,s list of flats to fill.As was Red Iholene.
sunfish
03-02-2009, 12:26 AM
If available I will take 2 musa Ele Ele
Richard
03-02-2009, 12:34 AM
:goteam: Go Team Go !! :goteam:
List updated as of 9:30pm PST 3/1.
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
Richard
03-02-2009, 12:48 AM
User zysx has been eliminated and thus the quantities ordered on Siam Ruby were adjusted downward (sorry). Please let me know if you'd rather adjust them upward.
Taylor
03-02-2009, 01:17 AM
I would like to add, to help fill flats:
2 Colocasia 'Elena'
2 Musa Ele Ele
Don't forget this guy, Richard! He makes 16 for Elena. Getting close!
r3tic
03-02-2009, 09:08 AM
I'll help out a bit more here....
Colocasia esculenta 'Elena' 2
Colocasia esculenta 'Black Ruffles' 2
Richard
03-02-2009, 01:38 PM
Good morning ladies and gentlemen, and non-ladies and non-gentlemen :simpatica
We have 5 full flats now, pending some information on the hardiness and flavor of Glenn and Cross.
If the variety you requested is not in one of the flats, consider buying another 10 -- because your shipping cost is going to be in that range anyway.
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
Important After you go to the above link, click refresh just in case your service provider is showing you a cached version.
:lurk:
harveyc
03-02-2009, 02:04 PM
Richard, is it possible for me to reduce my request on 'Hilo Beauty' to only 2 plants and add 6 of 'Dwarf Namwah'? I only requested 8 as I had not seen 1aday's request and wanted to help get the selection up to 18 but hatfam later requested 4. You could then swap 'Hilo Beauty' with 'Ice Cream' on the flats they are assigned to.
If it's too much bother, don't worry about it.
Also, if you don't mind parting with 2 each of the following on your list, I'd take them:
'Gran Nain'
'Dwarf Orinoco'
'Misi Luki'
Thanks again,
Harvey the gentleman ;)
froggie
03-02-2009, 03:08 PM
I would like to place an order for:
colocasia esculenta 'elena' --3
musa basjoo -----------------3
musa kru----------------------3
xanthosoma sagittifolium ----3
ensete ventricosum maurlii --3
You can add up 3 each if needed to fill a flat or delete if not enough.
Thank you. Joe
Patty in Wisc
03-02-2009, 03:09 PM
I know it's late & you are set w/ your order Richard, but I looked at the 3 E.E's on the order list and was wondering if I could get a few - 1 or 2 of each(?)- or more if easier.
Colocasia: Elena & Black Ruffles
Alocasia: Hilo Beauty
I would be happy with 1 of each or even 1 or 2 total.
Thanks
Taylor
03-02-2009, 05:12 PM
Richard,
I am down for 2 Truly Tiny, not 3 as is on your website. No biggie...
Java16
03-02-2009, 06:16 PM
If these are still available I will take:
Musa bordelon-2
musa siamensis ruby-2
musa ice cream-5
ensete m.-2
musa kru-4
thia black-1
Thank you!
harveyc
03-02-2009, 07:25 PM
I'll take the other Truly Tiny, Richard (the extra you have assigned to Taylor).
Taylor also wrote me and asked me if I'd take the Kandarian back since he changed his mind and that's fine, put me back down for one more.
If I get even one 'Hilo Beauty' that's enough for me if that helps since Patty wants some.
Richard
03-02-2009, 07:30 PM
I know it's late & you are set w/ your order ...
Oh, its not late. The way the flats are listed at the moment is a rough draft. I will work on all the requests made here and via PM's later tonight and come up with another draft!
Some people are reading this thread for the 1st time today :D
:woohoonaner:
Taylor
03-02-2009, 07:34 PM
In addition to what Harvey said, Howard (Saltydog) is taking 1 of my Siam Ruby, and 1 of my 2 Truly Tiny (yes, aside from the 3rd one that was an accident).
I may have one more change when I get a reply to a PM. I have offered Patty 1 of my Elena and 1 of my Black Ruffles so that we don't go over the number of allotted in a 1/4 tray.
You guys would be amazed at how easily the cost of these things adds up when you put it all on paper. Anyone who isn't sure that they can afford all that they have ordered, take 5 minutes to put it all on paper and double check. This will eliminate future inconveniences (such as mine) for Richard!
*Make sure to add a few dollars to pay for the charge in splitting the trays (with the different varieties and cultivars) and shipping costs!
Taylor
03-02-2009, 07:49 PM
For Bordelon, I'm 2, not 3.
However, Java16 and I talked and he wants one of mine, in addition with another to make his 2, mine 1.
In addition, Patty has accepted taking one of my Elena and one of my Black Ruffles under her name. I'm not sure how many she wants total, but she now has one of each, and I only have one of each.
Patty in Wisc
03-02-2009, 11:08 PM
Thanks Taylor. I will "adopt" 1 Elena & 1 Black Ruffles from you.
If Harvey would let me adopt one of his Hilo Beauty that would be great!
...(Oooh, I'm feeling so TROPICAL now!!)
My "wish" list:
1 Elena
1 Black Ruffles
1 Hilo Beauty
about all I can afford for now LOL.
harveyc
03-03-2009, 12:06 AM
Sure, Patty, that would be fine. I just wanted 1, to be honest. My larger request was just to help the number get up to the minimum.
harveyc
03-03-2009, 12:07 AM
Richard, have you gone crazy with all of this year.
My hat's off to you; I would have lost it by now! ;)
Harvey
Patty in Wisc
03-03-2009, 12:28 AM
My hat's off to you; I would have lost it by now! ;)
DITTO
Thanks Harvey, & thank you Richard
Richard
03-03-2009, 12:44 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15941 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 15941)
Hey! Anyone want some really inexpensive banana starts?
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm
:woohoonaner:
Patty in Wisc
03-03-2009, 01:29 AM
I cannot find a price list.
frustrating!
Richard
03-03-2009, 01:32 AM
I cannot find a price list.
frustrating!
It is here: http://www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post65390
harveyc
03-03-2009, 02:05 AM
I guess saltydad took the Truly Tiny that Taylor didn't want so drop my single request off.
If it helps, you can add back 4 of 'Hilo Beauty' for me. If anybody else later wants some, you can reduce me back to 2 plants.
You can add 2 Elena to my list to reach 1/3 flat level.
I'll take 1 Maurelii unless someone has beat me to it.
Thanks,
Harvey
Richard
03-03-2009, 02:33 AM
I guess saltydad took the Truly Tiny that Taylor didn't want so drop my single request off.
If it helps, you can add back 4 of 'Hilo Beauty' for me. If anybody else later wants some, you can reduce me back to 2 plants.
You can add 2 Elena to my list to reach 1/3 flat level.
I'll take 1 Maurelii unless someone has beat me to it.
Thanks,
Harvey
Done.
Patty in Wisc
03-03-2009, 03:38 AM
I started from page 1 looking for a link to price list. Agri-starts links only show availability. I found a price list on post #76 from 1aday.
john_ny
03-03-2009, 09:27 AM
Richard- In the Don't Panic posting, you have a tally, saying, "28 working toward ½ flat, need 4 more." Don't you need 8 more?
Richard
03-03-2009, 09:54 AM
I started from page 1 looking for a link to price list. Agri-starts links only show availability. I found a price list on post #76 from 1aday.
Yes, that is the link I gave you here: http://www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post65390
harveyc
03-03-2009, 10:24 AM
Richard, I had noticed the same thing as Patty last night and the link you posted this morning still takes us to the first page.
Here (hopefully!) is the permalink to the post with the prices: http://www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102-4.html#post65390
You might want to edit your first post to include the link or prices. Or not. ;)
Harvey
froggie
03-03-2009, 11:35 AM
Please add these to my list:
Alocasia Portora ---------- 3
Bordelon ------------------3
Musa thai black -----------3
Siam ruby ---------------- 3
You can add or delete a few
to fill a flat.
Thank you.
harveyc
03-03-2009, 12:14 PM
I noticed that Agri-Starts shows Dwarf Orinoco and Ice Cream not being available until April. They aren't on my list but are included on your order list. Will this hold up the fulfillment of the order?
Kylie2x
03-03-2009, 01:30 PM
Hey! I will help fill a couple of flats
1 Kru
6 Black Thai
5 Glenn (If you decide you don't want all 11 Richard)
Kylie:waving:
Richard
03-03-2009, 02:10 PM
Harvey,
How strange! The link you give here .../f2/agri-starts-7102-4.html#post65390 (www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102-4.html#post65390) takes me to post #23 at the top of page 3
and the link I gave here .../f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post65390 (www.bananas.org/f2/agri-starts-7102.html#post65390) takes me to post #76 near the bottom of page 1.
Richard
03-03-2009, 02:20 PM
I noticed that Agri-Starts shows Dwarf Orinoco and Ice Cream not being available until April. They aren't on my list but are included on your order list. Will this hold up the fulfillment of the order?
Our order will be something like 10 flats and come to me in multiple boxes. Due to availability, some flats will ship to me later than others.
enigma99a
03-03-2009, 02:22 PM
Please add these to my list:
Alocasia Portora ---------- 3
Bordelon ------------------3
Musa thai black -----------3
Siam ruby ---------------- 3
You can add or delete a few
to fill a flat.
Thank you.
Richard, Please give 3 of my Siam Rubys to him.. (7 to 4).
Also, does someone want to give me 1 Gran Nain since the 1/3 flat is secure, that's fine too. Thanks so much!
sunfish
03-03-2009, 02:35 PM
Richard
I will take 3 musa misi luki off your hands if you don't want all twelve.
Thanks
harveyc
03-03-2009, 02:47 PM
Putting out a request to get more takers on Musa Glui Kai. I'm hoping it might be a fast-maturing variety like Veinte Cohol, Senorita, etc. Even if not cold hardy, maybe can be grown as an annual (started in greenhouse the prior fall).
Thanks for your vote! :)
Harvey
enigma99a
03-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Putting out a request to get more takers on Musa Glui Kai. I'm hoping it might be a fast-maturing variety like Veinte Cohol, Senorita, etc. Even if not cold hardy, maybe can be grown as an annual (started in greenhouse the prior fall).
Thanks for your vote! :)
Harvey
Alright, I'll take 2
Richard
03-03-2009, 03:07 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15956 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 15956)
Check out our progress here, and please click "Refresh" on your browser after it loads in case your internet service provider is not showing you the most recent version.
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
:woohoonaner:
r3tic
03-03-2009, 03:07 PM
2 Musa Glui Kai here as well
Kylie2x
03-03-2009, 03:13 PM
Hey I will finish the flats for the
Glui Kai
Glenn
Black Thai
Kylie
enigma99a
03-03-2009, 03:16 PM
I'm going to help out the Sumatrana X cross.. so 2 please :)
Taylor
03-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Harvey,
I was signed up for 3 (by accident, I ordered 2).
So, you got one of them, and Howard got another.
I now have 1 on the list.
Richard
03-03-2009, 03:58 PM
Check this out:
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
It's all very simple, really!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=7761&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7761&ppuser=1558)
Taylor
03-03-2009, 04:00 PM
This is in addition to one of my Rubies that is adding 1 to Howard for his total of 3.
Patty is taking a Ruffles and Elena from my list, which I see have been bumped up to 1/3 tray. Since they have been expanded, Richard, please just reduce mine to 1 for each (at first I thought that they were done at 1/4 so I was sharing).
Don't forget to erase me from Kandarian, and increasing Harvey 1 number on it.
I'll check what is under my name again, to make sure all is finalized and no error.
Taylor
03-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Also, increase Java16 by one Bordelon, decrease me to 1. Maybe he can post to verify this, but my PM box has been busy with these conversations.
Richard
03-03-2009, 04:06 PM
This is in addition to one of my Rubies that is adding 1 to Howard for his total of 3.
Patty is taking a Ruffles and Elena from my list, which I see have been bumped up to 1/3 tray. Since they have been expanded, Richard, please just reduce mine to 1 for each (at first I thought that they were done at 1/4 so I was sharing).
Don't forget to erase me from Kandarian, and increasing Harvey 1 number on it.
I'll check what is under my name again, to make sure all is finalized and no error.
Taylor, no one is taking anything from anyone's list. Everyone (including you) is free to order the number they desire. If you want more or less of something, just let me know. There are people waiting on the sidelines who will add more to the popular items if necessary.
Taylor
03-03-2009, 04:56 PM
Ok, thanks!
Those are my last updates. Will PM later if something is still wrong.
Kylie2x
03-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Great Job Richard!!!
I will take the last 2 Bordelon's to finish the flat...
Kylie:ha:
Richard
03-03-2009, 05:47 PM
Ok, thanks!
Those are my last updates. ...
Taylor, I did not discern any updates in your posting. Please post or PM the quantities of each banana you desire.
:goteam:
Patty in Wisc
03-03-2009, 05:59 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/Patty_in_Wisc/anicourageshake-1.gif
6 flats -- that's a lot of plants!! Don't be nervous Richard :)
Kylie2x
03-03-2009, 06:05 PM
hehehehe! Patty
Kylie2x
03-03-2009, 06:48 PM
Hey Rchard is there an update?
I have done some of the numbers and it looks like a few of the totals are not adding up.. probably just me..LOL
Richard
03-03-2009, 09:03 PM
If you are reading this thread for the first time, please check out this file and order away!
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
A big thank you to Kylie for starting this whole idea, and most recently for checking my ailing arithmetic.
For those of you who are wondering when this process will ever end, just ... hang in there!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15957 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 15957)
Richard
03-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Cedardave has just found us, so that has opened a new set of possibilities! Please, if you are having regrets and wish to reduce your quantities or are a total banana nut and looking for more excuses to order more, just let me know.
Kylie2x
03-03-2009, 10:01 PM
I will take the
2 Truly Tiny
2 Glui Kai
to round up the flat...
harveyc
03-03-2009, 10:18 PM
Richard, when do you expect to ship these? Do you anticipate unpacking and letting them recover for a few days from any shock from shipping before dividing out and re-shipping?
I have 2 Dwarf Orinoco in my order right now and am wondering if I should cancel those if those are going to delay all of my plants by a few weeks or so, but though I'd ask for some clarification first.
Thanks,
Harvey
Richard
03-04-2009, 01:24 AM
Richard, when do you expect to ship these? Do you anticipate unpacking and letting them recover for a few days from any shock from shipping before dividing out and re-shipping?
I have 2 Dwarf Orinoco in my order right now and am wondering if I should cancel those if those are going to delay all of my plants by a few weeks or so, but though I'd ask for some clarification first.
Harvey, I empathize with your concerns. Certainly the plants will receive the utmost care. As for logistics, I will confer with AgriStarts and give everyone the prognosis. I have decided to let AgriStarts configure the flats so it best matches their inventory flow. How I deliver them to you is your choice -- at least once we know what the choices are.
harveyc
03-04-2009, 01:52 AM
Thanks, Richard.
Please drop my 2 Dwarf Orinoco and add 4 Raja puri. I'm sure you would do a good job taking care of them but am going to be very busy subsequent to mid-April. Also, add 2 Glui Kai to finish that up. If someone wants a couple you can reduce my number back down if you want and can remember. ;)
I wish that the 'T.R. Hovey' papaya were available as well as Musa FHIA-18. Oh, and that Pouteria viridis. ;)
Thanks,
Harvey
Richard
03-04-2009, 02:17 AM
O.K., so I believe we are finished. Please let me know if you feel otherwise. :D
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm
We have 'naners galore!
:goteam: :woohoonaner: :goteam:
harveyc
03-04-2009, 02:29 AM
Thanks, Richard!!!
:nanadrink:
harveyc
03-04-2009, 02:53 AM
Do you happen to have the price for the Kandarian? I just noticed it wasn't on 1aday's post on page 4 as I was estimating my total cost. I've got 35 plants and the delivered price is estimated to come at a little over $2 each which is great. Thanks for doing this, Richard. I didn't count, but I'd guess you have between 20-30 shipments to get the plants to all of us and that's no small task.
Can I pay you for your labor with banana bucks???? ;)
Harvey
dang how did I miss out on this????:(
Ueberwinden
03-04-2009, 11:48 AM
Richard,
I noticed that there were some Orinoco dropped from some orders. Let me know if there are not enought to fill the order. Orinoco are not super high on my list, I stiil have at least two from last season.
Michael
Richard
03-04-2009, 12:14 PM
Our order has been sent in and is being processed. I will receive three separate shipments from AgriStarts: one in a week, the next near April 1 (no foolin') and the other a week or so later.
Musa Glenn has been discontinued and is no longer available.
I will keep you posted about details as they emerge.
Kylie2x
03-04-2009, 01:00 PM
VERY COOL!!!! Great Job Richard!!! and THANKX!!!
Kylie
Richard
03-04-2009, 02:42 PM
For those who missed out or simply want more plants, there will be extras. A waiting list for dibs on extra plants has been started.
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm
Tog Tan
03-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Hey Richard, you are doing a great job for the people here and a greater job making me soooo frustrated as I can't join in the orders! :ha: Anyhow, I will attempt to get a whole bunch of stuff from Agri-Starts later once I figure out the import requirements. I am really keen and curious about the stuff you guys grow which I can't get here.
Keep up the good work man! :02:
Kylie2x
03-04-2009, 03:03 PM
You can stick my name on there just in case..LOL ;O)
DITTO Tog !!! I want what you have..
Kylie
No foolin' Richard? I guess when the volleyballs' in the air you have to spike it!
Patty in Wisc
03-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Just 4 months ago I bought a small T.C. Siam Ruby & Raja Puri for $15.00 plus $7.50 shipping (on EBay from Wellspring). What a deal HERE! Wish I waited.
Ueberwinden
03-04-2009, 05:24 PM
Tog,
I felt sorry for you being left out so I just put a call in to my USDA rep to find out what the requirements are. I'll let you know what I find out.
Michael
Kylie2x
03-04-2009, 05:31 PM
WOW!!! Michael..
Very Cool!! :bananas_b
Kylie
Ueberwinden
03-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Kylie,
The USDA offices that I have had dealings with have been very nice, and willing to help. It's when your up to no good that you should be ware. I tried to send some veggie seeds to a friend in Brazil who is trying to restore some of the native plants to his region. Unless I was willing to smuggle them in hidden in a package it was impossible according to Brazilian law. According to him a lot of the locals are clearing their native crops to grow crops used in hybrid fuels. There is more money in it.
Michael
Tog Tan
03-04-2009, 06:08 PM
Tog,
I felt sorry for you being left out so I just put a call in to my USDA rep to find out what the requirements are. I'll let you know what I find out.
Michael
Michael, actually the pain is on my side. The people at the agri dept or any govt dept are cranks. I had very bad experience dealing with them when I was doing reptiles. However this time, I am making my company sec to do all the running around for me. Agri-Starts does int export, and I can absorb the their quantity requirements. Thanks for your kind thoughts.
You can stick my name on there just in case..LOL ;O)
DITTO Tog !!! I want what you have..
Kylie
Well, Kylie, once I get the bugs worked out, maybe I can do some friendly exchanges with you people. Howzat? :ha:
Kylie2x
03-04-2009, 06:17 PM
Tog!
Anything for you my friend!!!
Kylie
harveyc
03-04-2009, 07:16 PM
Tog, I'd smuggle some in my suit case when I make my trip for us to go to the market in bk in December (just dreaming for now), but haven't heard yet if the prisons there serve good food or not. lol
Taylor
03-04-2009, 07:23 PM
Richard-
You deserve innumerable favors from all of us who ordered (more like tortured!)
I see that the orders will be staggered-
When you receive information on when each variety/cultivar will come, can you post it? In addition, will our payments be staggered, or can we pay all up front? I know we can all trust each other, but I also know that I wouldn't feel comfortable waiting until the end of the multiple shipments if I were in charge anyway.
AgriStarts shouldn't be hurting from the economy now. :rolleyes:
Ueberwinden
03-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Tog,
what kind of access do you have to getting plumeria? I have been trying to hook up with an asian grower so that I can get some of the new colors. It's amazing what the Thai growers are doing nothing like it in the states. I have a friend in KL that says he knows someone that may be able to introduce me, but I have not heard from him in several weeks.
Michael
P.S. foreign jails are nothing like U.S.jails (country clubs)
Richard
03-04-2009, 09:26 PM
Back on the topic of our AgriStarts purchase, I'm attaching copies of the order confirmations received today. Those of you who are anxious to calculate costs go right ahead -- keep in mind we have yet to see the FedEx charges for shipment from AgriStarts to my location. In particular, ignore the $0 entries for shipping. Oh and yes, I did edit the documents to remove some personal information, but I did not change any prices except on the plants that Taylor ordered. :D
:0519:
Taylor
03-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Did I do something wrong?! :eek:
Richard
03-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Did I do something wrong?! :eek:
Nope! But reading your comment about torturing me, I thought it would be fair game to tease you a bit. :02:
Taylor
03-05-2009, 12:02 AM
The torture wasn't intentional!
Tog Tan
03-05-2009, 12:22 AM
Sorry for the slight deviation folks,
Tog,
what kind of access do you have to getting plumeria? I have been trying to hook up with an asian grower so that I can get some of the new colors. It's amazing what the Thai growers are doing nothing like it in the states. I have a friend in KL that says he knows someone that may be able to introduce me, but I have not heard from him in several weeks.
Michael
P.S. foreign jails are nothing like U.S.jails (country clubs)
Michael, the best way to hunt down the new plumerias in Bkk is go to the nurseries there. They have so many varieties in the nurseries that they hybridize like crazy and many new, nice stuff are still not known to the market. There are just way too many. A few of the growers are working on the dwarf forms which do not grow more than 4-5ft in overall height. They look like a Jumbo sized adenium with a crown full of flowers. I have very good contacts in Bkk as I have been in-out there for more than 10 yrs. Nobody cares about plumerias here as the Malay grow them as grave markers!:ha:
Tog, I'd smuggle some in my suit case when I make my trip for us to go to the market in bk in December (just dreaming for now), but haven't heard yet if the prisons there serve good food or not. lol
Thanks Harv! :ha: I have seen films of the prisons there, definitely unimaginable! Still looking forward to meet you in Bkk though, without your suitcase full of 'naners. Just a note here, it is impossible to bring plants in through the airport there unless you have the contact. To take them out, they don't heck care. It's your side you gotta sweat!:ha:
harveyc
03-05-2009, 01:42 AM
Okay, Tog, I'll have to see if farming is good to me this year and see about permits, etc. and then start being extra nice to my sweet wife. ;)
Richard, it looks like more of them are coming in late April than I realized. I may be gone the week of your last shipment but back on 4/19 and you'd probably be shipping after that anyways.
Thanks, Richard, for doing such a great job organizing this!
Harvey
Richard
03-05-2009, 10:40 AM
Richard, it looks like more of them are coming in late April than I realized. I may be gone the week of your last shipment but back on 4/19 and you'd probably be shipping after that anyways.
No problem! As each batch arrives, I will contact the folks involved individually to schedule shipments.
Chironex
03-05-2009, 12:37 PM
Thanks Richard, awesome job!
Hi Richard,
Sorry, I've been out of country and with alot going on.. Sent you a post if it's not too late to do any add-ons.
craig.
1aday
03-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Gee, I haven't been getting any email updates, so I thought no one was posting! Wrong!
Richard, what happened to the Margarita and Rowe Red, not enough orders?
Please put me on the list for extras...
Ueberwinden
03-09-2009, 09:01 AM
Hey, I would like to be on the list for extras. Many me number 3 or what ever we are up to now. I have a friend here at work that wants a few bananas (basjoo) too.
Michael
Richard
03-09-2009, 12:11 PM
Richard, what happened to the Margarita and Rowe Red, not enough orders?
True.
Hey, I would like to be on the list for extras.
Done for both of you!
Kylie2x
03-10-2009, 03:41 PM
LOL.. Looks like we may need to start a Garden Supply Co-Op.. to accommodate all of these new guys!!!
GREAT Job Richard!!!!! Thanks for taking the time to take this on I know it is very time consuming...and having to keep everyone happy can be a challenge in itself!!!:goteam::goteam::goteam: YOU ROCK!!!!
Kylie:bananas_b
Richard
03-11-2009, 05:10 PM
It's the double-whammy! Today I received a large box from AgriStarts plus another box from the Davis Germplasm repository -- presumably full of cuttings. I'll open them up a bit later and post some pictures. Before that, I've got to pack up and ship some product orders.
:woohoonaner:
enigma99a
03-12-2009, 12:08 AM
Richard, is paypal going to work? Let me know when you are ready and I'll send it!
Richard
03-12-2009, 01:00 AM
Here's the first of our 3 shipments, fresh out of the box and wrappers. As the saying goes, the box they sent the trays in was worth the price of admission!
I will pamper these plants for the next few days and then send them on their way. Tomorrow I'll contact those involved about costs.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16081
harveyc
03-12-2009, 01:28 AM
Richard, please clarify: are you holding onto my plants until the rest of my purchase comes along?
Thanks,
Harvey
Richard
03-12-2009, 11:02 AM
Richard, please clarify: are you holding onto my plants until the rest of my purchase comes along?
Thanks,
Harvey
Harvey, you're way ahead of me :) First I need to make an accounting of what was ordered. 2nd, I need to take inventory of what was actually sent. Finally, I'll check with everyone individually by PM or email about delivery.
All of this will take a few days and in the meantime, the plants can have a nice rest from being boxed up.
:bed:
Patty in Wisc
03-12-2009, 07:12 PM
I was wondering same as Harvey. 4 plants s'posedly were just sent & the other 2 will come in 3 weeks. I don't know if it would be easier for you Richard, to ship separate or save the 4 & ship all 6 together. Would be less work in packing & less shipping to keep them together.
Taylor
03-12-2009, 07:30 PM
Richard- do you have a close up of the plants? I'm just interested to see them up close. They look like little babies!
If not, don't worry about it. Awaiting your PM tomorrow.
Richard
03-12-2009, 09:13 PM
Hi !
I just sent a PM to all concerned requesting some information. For anyone else (like Tog Tan!) who is following this closely, here is where we are in the accounting stages:
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
and for Taylor:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16101 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 16101)
JCDerrick
03-12-2009, 09:13 PM
Richard, is paypal going to work? Let me know when you are ready and I'll send it!
I was wondering the same - what payment methods are you OK with?
Patty in Wisc
03-12-2009, 10:29 PM
Now comes the hard part for you Richard. That's a lot of orders to fill!!
I'm wondering what the numbers in far right collumn are(?)
saltydad
03-12-2009, 11:31 PM
PM sent
Richard
03-13-2009, 12:28 AM
Thanks for the replies so far. I have posted an update:
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
Now for some questions:
I'm wondering what the numbers in far right collumn are(?)
Average cost per plant for each person.
I was wondering - what payment methods are you OK with?
Silver certificates!
:ha:
Patty in Wisc
03-13-2009, 12:44 AM
I will just send a check --- don't forget, paypal will charge Richard a percentage of total, unless you want to include that charge. I believe it is 3%.
Richard
03-13-2009, 01:38 AM
I will just send a check --- don't forget, paypal will charge Richard a percentage of total, unless you want to include that charge. I believe it is 3%.
Those who have visited my site know I use Google checkout. :D
Any fees that Google would charge me are applied towards my advertisements on Google, so really there is no cost to me that I wouldn't otherwise have spent. The reason that I volunteered to coordinate the AgriStart order is that (a) I'm already caring for a few thousand plants, and (b) I'm already set up for shipping, receiving, and online transactions. So perhaps a little extra work for me but we all get to grow more bananas and tropicals!
:woohoonaner:
Patty in Wisc
03-13-2009, 01:55 AM
:woohoonaner:
What a guy!
Tog Tan
03-13-2009, 05:15 AM
Hi !
I just sent a PM to all concerned requesting some information. For anyone else (like Tog Tan!) who is following this closely, here is where we are in the accounting stages:
Contrary to how nice people say you are, it's wicked, wicked for me! Great job man! :ha::ha::ha:
JCDerrick
03-13-2009, 07:56 AM
Those who have visited my site know I use Google checkout. :D
Any fees that Google would charge me are applied towards my advertisements on Google
Off topic, but did you see they are stopping that in May (http://checkout.google.com/seller/fees.html?gl=US)? I used CG as well, but their fee structure might make PayPal (especially PayPal micro) the better choice again. I hate they are getting rid of that, I thought it was a good trade off with what was spent using Adwords.
Richard
03-14-2009, 08:20 PM
updated again, 3/14/2009 6:07 PM:
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
and
Agri-Starts order for Bananas.org members, March 2009 (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009.htm)
D_&_T
03-14-2009, 09:39 PM
Thought Sandy0225 ordered some, was planning on any extras plus few from her!!
D_&_T
03-14-2009, 09:40 PM
planning on ordering again?
Richard
03-14-2009, 10:08 PM
planning on ordering again?
Yes.
Richard
03-17-2009, 08:38 AM
updated 3/17, 6:30am PDT
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
harveyc
03-17-2009, 08:52 AM
Richard, thanks for the update.
Is each plant still in it's individual cell/pot? Does each plant have a label or should I be making up labels now for when I'll be busy potting these up later in the week? This is a crazy week for me as I'm working at my other orchard an hour away until I finish pruning and come home exhausted, but I'll pull through! :)
Richard
03-17-2009, 05:57 PM
Updated again on 3/17, 3:40pm PDT
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
Is each plant still in it's individual cell/pot? Does each plant have a label or should I be making up labels now for when I'll be busy potting these up later in the week?
Harvey, they are currently in 72-count starter trays, with one marker per variety (not per plant). I will endeavor to put them all in marked 2.25" pots. However, in your case 25 plants must go in one box, so some of them might end up in a peat-pack with a single label.
Now Patty has commented that this is a lot of labor, but I just view it as practice for when I start offering TC's next year on my website.
:woohoonaner:
Richard
03-20-2009, 04:47 PM
Here's two photos of the TC's in their 2.25" pots. As you can see, the Musas and Alocasias are doing extremely well but the Colocasia "Black Ruffles" on the right of the bottom photo are not happy. These plants continue to put out new growth but the older leaves from the time of shipping are dying off. I suspect they don't care for my water, so I'm switching to purified water with liquid micronutrients. All of the others are on a diet of 1/4 teaspoon of 17-8-22 + micros per gallon of water.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16220&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16220)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16221 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 16221)
Richard
03-23-2009, 06:37 PM
Updated again on 3/23, 4pm PDT
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
:woohoonaner:
Richard
03-25-2009, 01:24 AM
Some tracking information, as of 11:15 pm PDT on 3/24.
JCDerrick
Your item was processed and left our SAN DIEGO, CA 92186 facility on March 23, 2009.
hatfam
Your item was processed and left our SAN DIEGO, CA 92186 facility on March 23, 2009.
Your item was processed and left our HAZELWOOD, MO 63042 facility on March 24, 2009.
1aday
Your item was processed and left our SAN DIEGO, CA 92186 facility on March 23, 2009.
Your item was processed and left our KNOXVILLE, TN 37950 facility on March 25, 2009.
enigma99a
Your item was processed and left our SAN DIEGO, CA 92186 facility on March 23, 2009.
Your item was processed and left our SACRAMENTO, CA 95834 facility on March 24, 2009.
harveyc
Your item was processed and left our SAN DIEGO, CA 92186 facility on March 23, 2009.
Your item was processed and left our SACRAMENTO, CA 95834 facility on March 24, 2009.
harveyc
03-25-2009, 01:35 AM
I'll be busy tomorrow!
Thanks,
Harvey
1aday
03-25-2009, 09:18 AM
Ooh, I may be busy today!:nanadrink::nanadrink:
hatfam
03-25-2009, 03:37 PM
Got my little present in the mail today :woohoonaner:
Gonna be repotting all day tommorow :woohoonaner:
Thanks Richard
Tom
enigma99a
03-25-2009, 04:22 PM
:woohoonaner: nuff said. Thanks Richard they all look good
1aday
03-25-2009, 05:05 PM
I got mine today
Richard
03-27-2009, 09:32 AM
Updated again on 3/27, 7am PDT
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf
Richard
03-27-2009, 12:08 PM
I learned from Heather today that Agristarts is acquiring the inventory of AgristartsIV (click here for web site (http://www.agristarts4.com)). I ordered a tray of Sugarloaf pineapples.
:goteam:
john_ny
03-27-2009, 03:19 PM
Richard,
I see you said that you ordered a tray of pineapples. Doesn't it get expensive to ship just one tray? Here's something I posted recently:
I have been dealing with Agri Starts for many years. They started out with one place and, eventually added AS II, III, and IV. There, briefly, was also an Agri Starts V, which dealt in stage 3 plants. (rooted, but still in gel; not transplanted to 72 cell trays). This unit was discontinued after a short time.
I'm not sure if it started out this way but, eventually, each of the 4 units was individually owned. They did, however, work quite closely together. At trade shows, they would have one large area, fronting on two aisles, and each unit would have one corner. They seem to have gone more their separate ways now. AS II was bought out by IV, and they, now, exhibit, together with AS I. #3 has a separate booth, now.
There are some trucking companies that carry plants up this way, from Florida. The one we use will pick up material, from several places in Florida, consolidate it, and bring it to us (along with several other people). They just require that you pay for a minimum of 100 cu. feet. They give you one pick up free and, after that, you are charged. The trucking co. depot is not too far from AS, and I could call someone in the one unit, and give him my orders for all 4 ASs, and he would deliver the material, from all 4, to the trucking co., thus eliminating the pick up charge. We would usually get between 10 and 20 trays from AS, in a shipment. This way, we kept our packing and shipping charges down in the 5¢-10¢ per plant range.
I don't know how far you are from the airport, (We're 20-30 minutes from Newark Airport) so if we are not getting enough material, in a shipment, to make it worth paying for the hundred cubes, then air freight is a good alternative. It's more expensive than the truck, but less than UPS, or FedEx, etc.
Richard
03-27-2009, 04:15 PM
Richard,
I see you said that you ordered a tray of pineapples. Doesn't it get expensive to ship just one tray?
That was just the AgriStartsIV portion of my order.
Richard
04-01-2009, 06:26 PM
Box #2 from Agristarts arrived today. Details at 11.
harveyc
04-01-2009, 06:29 PM
What channel? Oh wait, I don't have my converter box yet!!! I held off since I haven't watched TV at home for about three years and didn't know I'd have an urgent need like this coming up! :P
Harvey
Richard
04-01-2009, 06:31 PM
What channel? Oh wait, I don't have my converter box yet!!! I held off since I haven't watched TV at home for about three years and didn't know I'd have an urgent need like this coming up! :P
Harvey
Only 3 years? Its been over 20 for me. :goteam:
harveyc
04-01-2009, 06:32 PM
I had to watch John Paul II's funeral even if it was in the middle of the night!
I'm only a little weird, Rirchard! :P
Patty in Wisc
04-01-2009, 08:25 PM
Box #2 from Agristarts arrived today. Details at 11.
Oh good! My 6 were shipped #1 so I'll be getting them next week.
Yahoo
Richard
04-03-2009, 12:35 AM
Our shipment this week included 3 trays from AgriStarts I, to which I added 1 tray of pineapples from AgriStarts IV. This of course lowered everyone else's share of the shipping, which I have detailed in this update:
http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/AgriStartsMarch2009_COSTS.pdf :D
Here's a few photos!
In the far left of the 1st photo you see the remaining plants from the second week of March. These are in two inch pots at the bottom of the plastic container. Some of the Kru's are over 1 foot in height now. Then, progressing to the right there are 3 plug-trays of 'naners sitting on top of the containers plus the tray of pineapples in the middle.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16417 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 16417)
In this second photo, you see close-up from the opposite angle 24 whiny Colocasia Elena's and right behind them, some robust looking Ensete maurelli Red Abyssinians.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16418 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 16418)
Taylor
04-03-2009, 12:40 AM
Not sure if it's easier...but I could find our how much my $1.30 could buy...maybe one of the extra TC plantlets or something... Of course that's the cost of the plant plus whatever shipping was, could work, I'll have to look.
Richard
04-03-2009, 12:44 AM
Not sure if it's easier...but I could find our how much my $1.30 could buy...maybe one of the extra TC plantlets or something... Of course that's the cost of the plant plus whatever shipping was, could work, I'll have to look.
I thought the way the economy is going I'd send it to you all in food stamps! :ha: :ha: :ha:
markmcb
04-03-2009, 11:09 AM
I see my refund is $.33. I am very appreciative of you spending all this time with this project. Please don't worry about any kind of refund. I believe it is we, who owe you.
harveyc
04-03-2009, 11:57 AM
Keep any refund you've calculated for me, Richard. We owe you for your time and trouble as well as shipping materials, etc.
Thanks,
Harvey
r3tic
04-03-2009, 03:49 PM
As others have mentioned, keep the difference. Once again, thank you for all of your efforts putting this all together.
Richard
04-03-2009, 04:08 PM
As others have mentioned, keep the difference. Once again, thank you for all of your efforts putting this all together.
Oh, come on. I thought it was going to be a great excuse to send all of you a fertilizer sample. :D
Richard
04-03-2009, 09:46 PM
So anyway, the new TC's had mute indirect light yesterday (Thursday, day after arrival) and 5 hours of grow lights positioned 3 feet above today. The Ensete Maurelii's have grown at least an inch since Wednesday.
mskitty38583
04-03-2009, 11:25 PM
richard with all that refund coming your way, maybe we wont need a bail out. i see that the economic "growth" is gonna be in plants and planting medium this year. lol.:ha::ha::ha:
IndianaTim
04-04-2009, 11:12 AM
Oh, how I wish I would've seen this thread sooner so I could've joined in!
Richard, I'll be waiting, without sleep with my nose pressed against the window till I get $.33. ................... but seriously ,thanks for posting it and don't waist time/money with refund..........Bob
saltydad
04-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Please use my refund for something important, like half a beer or something!
Richard
04-05-2009, 12:44 AM
Please use my refund for something important, like half a beer or something!
OK, thanks everybody. I just like to be up-front about the accounting instead of leaving it in a cloud of mystery.
.
;)
.
Kylie2x
04-06-2009, 11:05 AM
:nanadrink:.. Richard I see my refund is enough for a whole beer... ENJOY!!!!:goteam:
And Thank You Again for all of the work you have put into this you have done a Wonderful Job!!!!
Kylie:waving:
Richard
04-06-2009, 10:48 PM
:nanadrink:.. Richard I see my refund is enough for a whole beer... ENJOY!!!!:goteam:
Thanks!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=16502 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo= 16502)
Kylie2x
04-06-2009, 11:58 PM
CHEERS!!!!!
Kylie
harveyc
04-07-2009, 12:54 AM
:nanadrink:
Have you put your own plants from the first shipment outside? My first ones are still in my greenhouse and, fortunately, since I moved my Ae Ae outside, I've got plenty of room now. I figure it would be a couple of months before I'd want any of these outside, though, since we often get strong dry north winds in April and May.
Thanks,
Harvey
Richard
04-07-2009, 01:16 AM
Harvey, its been a couple of weeks since the temperatures in my outdoor propagation area have dipped below 50 F. I put my plants outdoors last week in their 2-inch pots, surrounded by a cage made of wire fencing and 50% shade cloth. So far they've only needed watering every three days. I anticipate moving them up to larger pots soon.
Dalmatiansoap
04-07-2009, 01:06 PM
I was trying to make an international naner order from A-S and guess what is minimum order?
1008 plants!!!
Didnt belive my eys.
:woohoonaner:
Richard
04-07-2009, 09:06 PM
I was trying to make an international naner order from A-S and guess what is minimum order?
1008 plants!!!
Didnt belive my eys.
Since you are in Croatia, try this source in Germany:
Piccoplant Mikrovermehrungen GmbH (http://www.piccoplant.de/htm/english/home.htm)
Ueberwinden
04-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Richard,
When should I expect my shipments to go out?
Michael
Patty in Wisc
04-08-2009, 05:11 PM
I just pm'd you Richard. If plants were shipped on Monday, I should've gotten them today. Sometimes priority takes as long as reg mail these days!
I'll watch for them tomorrow.
Richard
04-08-2009, 05:17 PM
I had several requests not to ship in the beginning of the week due to freezing weather in the eastern part of the U.S. At the moment, it appears to be about over. What do you folks think?
Taylor
04-08-2009, 08:59 PM
Richard,
The next 3 days are perfect for shipping them. Not sure how everyone else feels. I can wait if you want to ship more than a few at a time.
Here is my next few days:
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj57/ph3lps/screen-capture.png
Patty in Wisc
04-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Fri Sat & Sun nights will dip to about 30* so I think Mon would be good day to ship.
r3tic
04-08-2009, 09:14 PM
Monday would be best for me.
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