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bananimal
01-23-2009, 02:40 PM
Jarred's post on carefull research and decision making before selecting naner cultivars to plant got me thinking. Decided to get rid of all the least cold tolerant naner mats - the Red and White Iholene. Also those most susceptible to wind damage, the tall ones - Saba and Pitogo.

Some of the remains of the above mentioned naners
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15372&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15372&ppuser=820)

Here in PSL, Florida three cold nights in a row - low 30's -caused extensive leaf damage to all my planted naners. Potted pups went in the garage with a space heater.

Patchy frost on cars Thurs AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15370&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15370&ppuser=820)

Cold damage to leaves of both Goldfinger follow-on's
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15369&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15369&ppuser=820)

Did a test -- before cold showed up -- Knoched a lower leaf of Dwarf Brazil to let it hang down. With no horizontal surface for frost to settle on, the whole leaf stayed green.

Knoched but still attched DB leaf
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15371&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15371&ppuser=820)

Dan

Chironex
01-23-2009, 03:47 PM
Arrrgggggggggghhhhh! Look at the corms!!!!!!

mskitty38583
01-23-2009, 03:54 PM
oh that hurts my feelings. boooo hooooo waaaaaa make me cry like that!!!!sniff sniff

damaclese
01-23-2009, 05:55 PM
well if its any consolation to you the dwarf Brazilian you sent me is alive and healthy living out its teenage years in my warm an well lit down stairs hall Pstems swelling nicely I'm thinking there mite be a flower on its way soon although its only 4ft tall but it is in a pot and that side shoot it had when you sent it to me finally popped up after a heavy feeding 3 months ago
you can send me any of those corms you are digging up LOL i wouldn't worry about the frost the ground is still warm and the ones you are keeping will recover this spring
take care Pauly

Caloosamusa
01-23-2009, 07:20 PM
Bananimal,

I feel your pain! My Goldfingers were the least resiliant cultivares in this latest freeze (22Jan09). The FHIA-3 held up as well as my Saba, with very little damage. I may get out my ladder tomorrow and take some pics.

Best wishes,

stumpy4700
01-23-2009, 10:49 PM
Before it spins outta control maybe the title should be" What plants have you killed today"..Just a thought?

bananimal
01-24-2009, 01:33 AM
Not to worry. The sites of the deleted naners will be taken up by the big potted pups that are in the garage nice and warm. They are the SH-3640, Logees Ladyfinger, Manzano, Pisang Klotek and Belle.

Jarred was right. If you are going to plant in the ground you gotta plant stuff that works, not cause it sounds good on some nursery website. Two years ago Terry - Tlturbo - told me I was located right on the edge of no return for growing naners, here in PSL, and 2 cold winters in the 4 years I'm here proved him right.

BTW the Lula avocado, Duncan mango and the Jaboticaba came thru with no leaf damage.

All of the deleted naner mats have pups, and they will be excavated and available to forum members when it gets alot warmer - like April/May.

Dan

bananimal
01-24-2009, 01:15 PM
Please, no more tears guys. :0491::0491::0491: :0493::0493::0493:

I forgot to mention that the new rolled up leaves, the trunks and the short pups show no damage.

Pretty sure all, or most, of my naners will grow out new leaves. None of the follow-on pups are close to flower, and that's good too.

Time will tell. Everybody in South Fla and Calif pray for no more cold snaps!!!

Hey Calloosamoosa --- let's see some of your pics. Also - why is your location pin in the sea, south of Sanibel island? lol

Just checked mine - I put it in a retention pond next to I95 and Gatlin. About 4 miles from the house.

Dan

MediaHound
01-24-2009, 04:57 PM
Thread stuck! Brrr!

Richard
01-24-2009, 10:57 PM
I killed a Stevia bush by overwatering it during the last two weeks. Two others are doing fine though.

momoese
01-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Nothing

mskitty38583
01-25-2009, 12:00 AM
a spider, bermuda grass, some mushrooms growing out the bottom of an indoor potted plant, some of the most hated, god-forsaking, !@#$%$#@ gnats. i think thats about all i killed today......oh and i killed off about 4 pots of coffee!

MG
01-25-2009, 12:25 AM
Well if mskitty can kill off 4 pots of coffee than I can say that I killed a gallon of sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet tea. I'm addicted to it. Do I need a 12 step program? LOL

Note to mediahound-don't pass out b/c I'm actually here, lol.

Caloosamusa
01-25-2009, 12:29 PM
I think now I can say I have killed no bananas today!

Bananimal, I just uploaded some new pics, I think, that shows the freeze damage to FHIA-1, FHIA-2, Dwarf Nam Wa, Raja Puri, Red Iholena, SH-3640, Ice Cream, Zan Moreno, Kofi, and Brazilian Tall.

As you have already noticed I'm not South of Sanibel, but I'm close enough to be warm for my Bananas and mangos.

Best wishes!!

Kylie2x
01-29-2009, 04:42 PM
LOL one measly little Iochroma..
I checked the Banana's under the house... a bit blanced but looking healthy otherwise...the ones in the garage are still hanging in there and the few in the house are starting to put on new growth.. My AEAE broke dormancy and has put out it's first new leaf WOOHOO!!! I will try to get a pic up...
Kylie

Richard
01-30-2009, 03:02 AM
Two red-veined sorrel. Possibly due to fly larvae. I sprayed the rest with a pyrethrum.

Kylie2x
01-30-2009, 08:21 AM
Nice to see ya here Martha!!!
Kylie

mskitty38583
01-30-2009, 10:16 AM
LOL one measly little Iochroma..
I checked the Banana's under the house... a bit blanced but looking healthy otherwise...the ones in the garage are still hanging in there and the few in the house are starting to put on new growth.. My AEAE broke dormancy and has put out it's first new leaf WOOHOO!!! I will try to get a pic up...
Kylie

congrats on the new ae ae leaf!!!!!!:goteam::woohoonaner::ha:

bananabanger
02-02-2009, 07:36 PM
I killed some ants that i found in my garden.

I boiled a kettle then poured it down their nest.

I had two bananas afterwards though lol, so it wasn,t too bad

Caloosamusa
02-03-2009, 02:51 PM
I found and eliminated three Brazilian pepper sprouts. It is an invasive exotic
schinus terebinthifolia.

Best wishes,

Patty in Wisc
02-05-2009, 08:30 PM
I killed a squirrel.

Chironex
02-05-2009, 09:22 PM
A boatload of fungus gnats! Damned things are everywhere due to the steer poop I used. Sheesh, worse than fruit flies.

sirmoebly
02-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Just some more spidermites....What a fun thing to do... I think I might of found a cure for them nasty's...... I'll post what I used in a couple of days if it worked....

bananimal
02-06-2009, 02:40 AM
Scot,

I'm afraid to ask, this being winter and all, did you put that cow crap on your potted plants --- in the house???

How well rotted was it? Or wasn't it? Did anybody perhaps ask if you were using the new hillbilly version of "plug-it-in, plug-it-in" room deodorizer?

Dan

Chironex
02-06-2009, 02:50 AM
Actually, I had just grabbed some mixed soil I had outside to fill a potted fern. Didn't remember that I mixed steer doogie in with it last fall. It really didn't have much of an odor, so I guess it had been fairly well composted. But the gnats, Yikes!

Bob
02-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Before it spins outta control maybe the title should be" What plants have you killed today"..Just a thought?

I hadn't thought of it that way...............must be slipping.

mskitty38583
02-06-2009, 02:23 PM
killed some of those stupid !@#$ gnats!!!! no i didnt put cow poopie on mine. havent killed any plants recently thank god!

Tog Tan
02-06-2009, 02:41 PM
I killed a squirrel.

Ooh.. Patty, way cool......:ha:

bananimal
02-06-2009, 08:31 PM
Scot,

The gnatz tell it all. It was still ripe and stinky - to them anyway. Just moved my entire stock of potted plants back outside today. From the house and the garage with heater. Saw webs all over the quenepa - Spanish Lime - and the last remaining, still alive, ensette Maurelii from Sandy. Even the Key lime from Dave from the Gardenweb. The house in the winter is one big bug friendly growth environment - hot and dry - give us all a break!!!

Looking forward to continued mild weather patterns - here in supposedly blamly So Fla. The latest 10 day forcast looks good.

All of my cut down banana mats have fat, vigorous looking pups that will start accelerated growth in pace with the warming trend. April starts with megadoses of Vermicompost and regular watering. And this year the new Florida grape arbor starts with 3 year old vines - all of which have broken bud already. Everybody think warm - it's just around the corner - some corners being longer that others. NTWHIC!

Dan

Muscadines rule here, y'all!!!

Patty in Wisc
02-06-2009, 09:01 PM
I killed aphids. I looked close & saw them all over the tips of my brugmansias & then saw some at a few nana leaf tips. I blasted them with my shotgun.
Just kidding...I sprayed them w/ hot water & dawn dishsoap & will check tomorrow. I almost lost a 5 in 1 apple tree to them last summer!
Dan, do you make wine w/ those grapes? I grow concord here ...good jelly & juice. This is the time to prune before they wake up.

harveyc
02-10-2009, 07:23 PM
I know this wasn't the intent of this thread, but I feel much better having killed this big rat in my shop than letting it eat up my baby Variegated wild Asian banana! To be honest, I killed this rat yesterday but since someone also killed the 'org, I couldn't get it posted. Glad to have the forum back! :D

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15616&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15616&ppuser=775)

island cassie
02-10-2009, 07:35 PM
I'm with you there Harvey - kill those rodents. We have a constant battle to keep them out of the generator house and stop them gnawing the generator cables or making nests in there!! I practise goodwill to all living things except rats when they are in my patch. I have seen them eating coconut flesh in the campo and their coats would put a mink to shame, but I don't think there would be a big market for rat skin coats no matter what you renamed them!!

buzzwinder
02-10-2009, 07:39 PM
Nice catch Harvey, and YES, very good to have the Org. back, I had computer trouble on monday, got that straightened out and then couldn't get back to the Org. untill now. Thanks Jarred for fixing the problem!! :bananas_b

harveyc
02-10-2009, 08:30 PM
I bet I'm the only one in the 'org whose dad once shot a pistol in the house to get a rat! ;)

I didn't quite understand it at the time, but these things can be frustrating to get rid of.

momoese
02-10-2009, 08:44 PM
I bet I'm the only one in the 'org whose dad once shot a pistol in the house to get a rat! ;)

I didn't quite understand it at the time, but these things can be frustrating to get rid of.

I once hunted rats inside the house when I lived in Manhattan Beach. I used a CO2 pellet rifle!

harveyc
02-10-2009, 08:55 PM
I've used a pellet gun in my pigeon coop. Dad used a .38 special. :)

Caloosamusa
02-10-2009, 09:02 PM
I have killed nothing today, but when I lived up North (Florida) I released two Elaphae obsoletta quadrivitatta (native yellow rats snakes) in my home when I had a problem with an endangered mouse species one winter in my house. Problem solved, they can go where cats cannot, and they don't shed fur. Red rat snakes work just as well or if in California Rosy Boas.

island cassie
02-10-2009, 09:12 PM
Hey Caloosamusa - I would love to have that solution - I love snakes!!!

Caloosamusa
02-10-2009, 09:22 PM
I'm only vaguely familiar with The Epicrates species of the Dominican Republic.
They are Boas so not only birds(their primary prey) they should prey on rodents also. I am unfamiliar however with their temperment, and cannot say that they would make good house-mates. Someone locally there could give you better information. I'll ask a friend Dr. (herpetologist) and get back with you. They make life rough for those banana eating critters!

Best wishes,

Thanks Jarred for fixing the website!!!!!

Patty in Wisc
02-11-2009, 12:17 AM
My brother-in-law had a tenant that shot flies on the ceiling LOL. Bullet holes everywhere. He got evicted. He was a nut case.
Jarred, what was wrong with the org...what happened?

mskitty38583
02-11-2009, 03:45 AM
thanks jarred for fixing the org...i was having with drawls!

harveyc
02-11-2009, 01:18 PM
FYI - discussion about the recent downtime should go to http://www.bananas.org/f5/sorry-about-downtime-7080.html#post63557. Sorry, I think I helped this thread go off-track with my rat post (which was OT enough as it was) by making reference to the downtime.

Harvey

Tog Tan
02-11-2009, 04:59 PM
A couple of caterpillars which were giving my new palm seedlings a hard time.

Michael_Andrew
02-11-2009, 07:23 PM
Well Tog when I saw you posted to this thread I couldn't wait to see what exotic thing you had killed. I though maybe you took out one of them Long or Short Tail Macaques. Or maybe one of them wild boars you talk about. Or maybe a monitor lizard or two. But a couple of caterpillars? lol Harveyc got you beat with his rat!

island cassie
02-12-2009, 12:14 AM
Hey Caloosamusa - the locals here all hate snakes even though there are no poisonous snakes on the island and try to kill them at every opportunity. When we were protecting what turned out to be a tree boa, we had 3 guys trying to kill it - they had already killed the other hatchlings/siblings. Very interesting was the way it worked it's way into the roots of the grass in the lawn (tropical grass is very deep) and disappeared from view.

Tog Tan
02-12-2009, 07:50 AM
Well Tog when I saw you posted to this thread I couldn't wait to see what exotic thing you had killed. I though maybe you took out one of them Long or Short Tail Macaques. Or maybe one of them wild boars you talk about. Or maybe a monitor lizard or two. But a couple of caterpillars? lol Harveyc got you beat with his rat!

Hi Michael, sorry for the disappointment! :ha: So far the Long and Short tails haven't been much of a bother, but them wild boars! Them pigs (literally) took out a couple of my newly established 'naners. That really made me sore. As my nursery is in the middle of a jungle and I have no one staying there, they are indeed a problem. My dog can't seem to do much as they come in a gang. I am thinking of a pretty wicked thing like a pit with pungi sticks. Perhaps I can have a wild ham buffet later. :ha:

Caloosamusa
02-12-2009, 04:21 PM
Island Cassie, we have the same problem with locals around here! I'm glad there are no native venomus snakes on your island. I'm also glad to hear you will not be posting on this thread about snakes you've killed!!! I've not seen Dr. A in a couple of days, hopfully by monday or tuesday.

Tog Tan!! I've not seen a pungi stick trap in a long time, they are a federal offense here, but Go for it!!!! Eat some pork ribs for me!!! Good hunting!!!

Best wishes,

island cassie
02-13-2009, 02:33 AM
Caloomusa - I love snakes and have kept them in one way or another for many years - but not now. Great creatures!!

Caloosamusa
02-13-2009, 09:23 PM
Today I destroyed a brazilian pepper sprout (invasive exotic)!

Island Cassie, I just posted a picture of one of our venomous locals here in Florida. It is a pygmy Rattlesnake. It's the second one I've found on my bike route! I did not kill my venomous friend but did relocate it.

Best wishes to all! :)

Richard
02-13-2009, 09:28 PM
Today I smashed a mosquito that tried to come along for a ride in my van.

Tog Tan
02-14-2009, 06:05 AM
Today I destroyed a brazilian pepper sprout (invasive exotic)!

Island Cassie, I just posted a picture of one of our venomous locals here in Florida. It is a pygmy Rattlesnake. It's the second one I've found on my bike route! I did not kill my venomous friend but did relocate it.

Best wishes to all! :)

Hey...Caloosamusa, good job in giving the Sistrurus a second chance. Nice pix too. I have kept this species before during my reptile trading days. Venomous, but well behaved guy! I like them because of their size which is very manageable and they feed very well in captivity too. :02:

Dalmatiansoap
02-14-2009, 07:25 AM
Well, loks like that every part of the world has its own dangerous reptile. This one is ours from Biokovo Park of nature, where I live. It is Vipera ammodytes, quite dangerous snake.
Regards.
:woohoonaner:

Tog Tan
02-14-2009, 09:27 AM
Well, loks like that every part of the world has its own dangerous reptile. This one is ours from Biokovo Park of nature, where I live. It is Vipera ammodytes, quite dangerous snake.
Regards.
:woohoonaner:

Wow, Ante, that's a nice snake! You see many when you are out in the woods working?

Caloosamusa
02-14-2009, 11:05 AM
Thanks Tog Tan,

Even though it is a native species here, I've had little experience with it. The second one I caught was much better behaved than the first. I released the first one on my "farm," (which is nowhere near my house)! Rodent eating creatures are welcome even if they are cold blooded. Thank you for the information about their temperment. Experience is a good teacher. :03:

Dalmatiansoap, Nice viper!!! I would like to see it in its native habitat up close like your picture!! Way cool!!!!
Best wishes,

Dalmatiansoap
02-14-2009, 11:50 AM
Wow, Ante, that's a nice snake! You see many when you are out in the woods working?
Yes, Tog.
Specially in summer time whan they are mating. We have to be very carefull whan digging holes for poles and pickinng stones for poles.
:woohoonaner:
P.S. I was out for pix of Arum habitat. Send them soon.

bananimal
02-14-2009, 12:03 PM
Tog,

Pungi stakes should work good on the pigs. You don't need a pit. Just mark the stake areas on open ground near the plants with orange marking paint. That is so you don't walk into it.

Ran into a Pungi staked area once on a patrol in Viet Nam, somewhere along the Cambodian border. After passing the word back many times to "WATCH WHERE YOU STEP", one banana head in the other squad nailed his ankle with one. Patrol shot, waited all day for the Medevac chopper. Must use fired bamboo for strength.

Dan

damaclese
02-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Can you say Wester Diamond Back Rattle Snake, Black Widow spider,Brown reckloos spider and lastly my most dreaded creature Bark Scorpions?

Snakes i leave Alon. All the rest get a free trip to Heaven. Vegas or the Mohave desert has a large variety of Venomous creatures. One has to be careful gardening here! and you must spray the intier perimeter of you house 4 times a year unless you like living with thing that can put you in the hospital

Westwood
02-14-2009, 09:53 PM
well we had a fire in the garage And i had my banana's in the attic.
all but the babies i got from J...................

sad but true. I am trying to hope that the hard parts might live but im afraid ive killed them all.
I did how ever get my dog, cats and Parrots out.
T

island cassie
02-14-2009, 09:55 PM
So sorry to hear that!!!

saltydad
02-14-2009, 11:31 PM
Tammy...that's terrible news, but wonderful that you saved you little friends. I'm sure we'll be able to repopulate your garden when it's time.

saltydad
02-18-2009, 11:59 PM
The pups from my Siam Ruby are almost gone. I have been miserly in watering inside as overwatering seems to be the kiss of death during overwintering. But the plants are just leaning over and giving up the ghost. I'll keep the pot in case the corm is OK for spring. Damn, they were so pretty.

Patty in Wisc
02-19-2009, 02:23 AM
Sorry to hear that Howard. Sometimes it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

mskitty38583
02-19-2009, 09:04 AM
tammy its good to hear you got the kitty, dog and the parrot out. the nanas will grow back(or can be replaced) but you and your babies cant. good to hear yall are safe.:goteam:

saltdady, thats odd, my siam gave up also. but i did manage to find 7 red iholenes at my fav gh the other day.( did i buy all 7.....yes i did) they were all in 2 pots. they were priced at.....$7.00 a pot.

Bob
02-19-2009, 04:35 PM
Tammy, sorry to hear that. My wife lived through a housefire as a kid and is to this day a stickler for any detail regarding potential fire. I'm sure we can get you some plants when you're ready. Glad you got you're pets out. I couldn't imagine losing mine.

Howard and Sam, it's wierd , my Siam Ruby's have gone through more water than any of my other plants although they lost their color. They aren't the fastest growers on the porch but have grown steadily and even added a bright green pup on one. I can only guess that since I got them soon after joining the org. that I may have given them the most ammendment(orchid chips, sand, perlite) and then became a bit thriftier as I quickly built my collection.

Caloosamusa
02-24-2009, 06:44 PM
Tammy I'm glad your animals were saved, I pray that your life will gain "normalcy" quickly. May God grant you peace in this time of trouble.

Today I found and killed a few more of our local invasive exotic Brazilian pepper, shinus terebinthifolia. I also posted a few pictures of whats blooming.:2239:

Lagniappe
02-24-2009, 11:28 PM
2.7 million assorted insects with my truck and trailer......spring is near !!!
:ha::ha::ha:

Tammy, Sorry to hear about your plants and garage. Do you know what caused the fire?
I second Bobs offer to help :)

Guys, I left all my Siam Rubies (Ruby's??) in the ground. We'll see if they decided to tough it out in a few weeks.

Michael_Andrew
02-25-2009, 07:25 PM
Well I have to admit failure on this plant so far even though I've tried to kill him several ways. I germinated an Ensette Ventricosum in less than two weeks. He popped up and looked so good I named him "Spike." He was growing so fast I decided to change his name to "Speedy." That nice big leaf came out and I thought that maybe "Leif" would be a good name. I had a dome over him and I guess the humidity caused a case of the white fuzzies and it looked like "Crash" was most appropiate. I dug him up and dipped his roots in fungicide and potted him up in straight perlite but he kept crashing. So anyhow "Looser" was looking so bad I just hated looking at him and had thought of adding him to the compost pile. He started putting out a little sprial leaf. I thought no way he'd pull though this but "Comeback Kid" added another leaf, small and deformed. "Tiny" put out another bigger leaf and another. Wow, I gave him a little water soluable fertlizer to help him along. "Spots" has nice nitrogen burns on all 4 leaves. Oh well I repotted him up tonight and I hope to rename him soon.

"Killer"

Patty in Wisc
02-25-2009, 10:00 PM
Michael, you crack me up :)
That was cute!

stumpy4700
02-26-2009, 05:50 PM
Well I just check on the naners i have in the back of the garage, and it looks like the Dwarf Nino and 1 of the bajsoo's didn't make it. They were mush down to the soil line. ( they are in pots) I cut them down and I'll just wait to see if the corm survives...OH well thats why we experiment with different options.

Caloosamusa
02-26-2009, 06:43 PM
:03: Today I destroyed yet another of our invasive exotics!! It began growing in the pseudostem area in one of the Goldfingers!! I was outraged!!!!
Not really, just a little annoyed.

I spend time actually having to do exotic control, since many invasives do so well here. What are the invasive exotics in other areas?

Best wishes:2239:

island cassie
02-26-2009, 06:49 PM
Hey Stumpy - don't give up on them! I have had them go to mush to the soil-line, but 2 months later with nothing visible above ground, they sent up a pup. Just when I was about to dig them up to investigate, but glad I waited. So hang on and keep them dryish.

stumpy4700
02-26-2009, 10:07 PM
Thanks Cassie, I'll keep them and set the pots out when it warms up. I'll give them a month or so and if not I'm sure I'll have other pups who would love to rent the pot.:lurk:

bencelest
02-27-2009, 10:58 AM
Yesterday, I noticed that the leaves of my Washington Navel Orange tree have many small holes so I found out after looking closely it has many small snails attacking the leaves.
Boy, have I enjoyed smashing them with my feet!
So every 4 hours or so I keep inspecting and I keep still finding a few of them.
Do I enjoyed it? You bet I am!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15878&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15878)

alpha010
02-27-2009, 01:08 PM
I killed about 5 billion brains cells and (in my brain) 15 supervisors and engineers at my work today............. I wub my j0b............

Michael_Andrew
02-27-2009, 06:55 PM
Well Shaggy you only got 95 billion left. That's if you haven't killed any before today. Good thing its Friday.

Bob
02-27-2009, 08:15 PM
Yesterday, I noticed that the leaves of my Washington Navel Orange tree have many small holes so I found out after looking closely it has many small snails attacking the leaves.
Boy, have I enjoyed smashing them with my feet!
So every 4 hours or so I keep inspecting and I keep still finding a few of them.
Do I enjoyed it? You bet I am!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=15878&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15878)

They'd go good with garlic: escargot ,good stuff

bencelest
02-27-2009, 10:51 PM
Bob:
Huh! Am I missing something here?

Michael_Andrew
02-27-2009, 11:26 PM
Yea the lemon juice.

alpha010
02-28-2009, 06:01 AM
Well Shaggy you only got 95 billion left. That's if you haven't killed any before today. Good thing its Friday.

Heh, I think I'm down to my reserves already! And btw, fridays still suck cuz im a 6 day worker...... :o(

bencelest
02-28-2009, 12:38 PM
I killed some ants that i found in my garden.

I boiled a kettle then poured it down their nest.

I had two bananas afterwards though lol, so it wasn,t too bad


Did it work? I never thought of that! That sounds like a good idea!

Kylie2x
03-07-2009, 01:36 PM
Well I went "Down Under" today.. under the house that is to drag out the banana's stored... Looks like I lost both of my DC's :O(::::
Everything else looks fine.. and the ones in garage and house are putting on new growthI have a couple of GF's with about 3' of P-stem...(still dormant took out today) If anyone would have a DC or 2 of the about same size and would like to trade... LMK
Oh and YES I killed the lemon Grass.. Should have left it in the ground..LOL
Kylie:waving:



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/kylie2x/005-6.jpg

Chironex
03-07-2009, 03:18 PM
Although resisting the temptation, I want to kill the juvenile delinquents who vandalized my AeAe last night! They broke the pot, dumped the soil all over the driveway and stole the plant. I think they left the corm, so I might have a shot at getting it to grow back, but I am not sure. It was quite an unpleasant experience when I returned home last night.

I would like to make them eat green bananas until they are sick. Then repeat this for 3 days straight. Oh, AND replace my AeAe!

Chironex
03-07-2009, 03:21 PM
:03:....... What are the invasive exotics in other areas?

Best wishes:2239:

Juvenile deliquents!

harveyc
03-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Wow, sorry to hear that Scott! :(

Kylie2x
03-07-2009, 05:26 PM
WOW!!! Scott..
That BITES BIG TIME!! So Sorry to hear that...Kids these days I just don't get it?????

buzzwinder
03-07-2009, 05:58 PM
That stinks scot, did any of your nieghbors see anything, I'ld call the law, an AeAe is an expensive plant, I would be looking for some restitution from the idiots or their parents.

saltydad
03-07-2009, 06:15 PM
Definitely report it. Others may have also been victimized, and reporting could help authorities find them. My condolences, Scot.

Chironex
03-07-2009, 09:51 PM
So far no one knows or saw anything. I was trying to decide whether to report it or not. I may try to bait them and video the little bastards. I wish tar and feathering were back in vogue - perhaps putting them into stocks or pillories.......or the whipping post, yeah!!!

island cassie
03-07-2009, 10:05 PM
Sorry to hear that Scot - no punishment is too bad for the miscreants!!

Patty in Wisc
03-07-2009, 10:23 PM
Scot, I would put up a big sign in front saying something like " reward for info regarding my stolen banana plant - Ae Ae. Please call....." Describe it.
Call police & report it & your ins. will pay the reward. Put up signs in your local super market. They have cork boards at entrances for any ads from ppl. Get the word out...some one will say something.
It most likely is a neighbor kid. His friends will squeal for a reward!!! His mother will see it at market.

Tog Tan
03-08-2009, 02:06 AM
Scot, that sucks.. Here's what I would do....
Make a police report on vandalism and theft. Then post a reward on the all the boards of the marts, schools and what not and include the police report's number. Then see what happens. If nothing happens, so be it. But you have had your message out - what the people did is illegal and what they did can be done to the others in the same area. Let ALL be aware. If you get a response, you can go back to the police with the info, or otherwise...I leave that to your imagination...

I had a similar situation a long time ago. A grass cutter cut up my dog which is kept behind my house in an enclosed area. There were few gaps in the structure so my dog, Shadow, couldn't have done anything offensive except bark. When I came home I saw her skin dangling from her back, face and other parts all whacked. Shadow is a pitbull, if she was another breed, she would have been a goner.I was furious.

First thing, I went off to the police station and made a report.

Next stop I went to the office of the grass cutting contractor and called all the workers together. I told them what happened and then I took out a wad of rm500 and told them it's a reward if they gave up the name of the person who did that. On top of that, I told them that I want to chop off the right hand of that guy. I did it in all seriousness and anger then. Of course I never heard from them. The point is, these are rough people and they have to be treated the way they expect. From my info, the police captain realised that the 2 break ins in my neighbourhood on that same day could be done by this person as he is aware of the presence of people in their home. The grass cutters start very early and they are totally aware of the people's movement out of their house.


Finally, Shadow healed very well and being very tough as what she is, lived to an old age of 12 yrs and passed away. Her scars were made her look cool (hey Lorax -scars make a man, scars make a greater woman!)

After my speech to the idiots I never had any trouble in my neighborhood. I guess the word went round I wanted that guy's right hand. And I did...:waving:

Bob
03-08-2009, 06:12 AM
Scott.......there's nothing I can say. There are fairly inexpensive motion activated cameras (easily concealed) hunters use to locate big bucks. People vadalizing hunt camps have been caught this way on many occaisions. Might be a good option if you think it will happen again. I really hope you catch them.

Tog , you were too kind. I won't put in print what I 'd do if someone intentionally hurt my dogs.

Taylor
03-08-2009, 12:13 PM
That's not good. It's just another reason why people need to hide their AeAe. I would actually look on the member map of people near you, as well. If you posted your actual house on this member map, it is not unrealistic that someone stopped by.

On the other hand, it is MOST likely someone living within a few blocks of you.

Kylie, what zone are you? I put most of my plants in the basement last year, and a lot of them shriveled up and died. This year, I didn't put any in the basement, left most in the ground with protection, and I'm pretty sure the roots are intact, and most of the trunks are except maybe the top foot or so (which has been cut off). It should be a good banana year for me...try leaving yours in the ground with protection, too.

Patty in Wisc
03-08-2009, 01:31 PM
To chime in again...years ago my next door neighbor got brglarized. We figured kids from the area. She put out signs for a reward to arrest of burglar & described what was stolen. One of his friends ( unidentified to all but police) squeeled on his buddy. She got all her stuff back & her insurance paid the reward $$$.

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 03:08 PM
Taylor our temps fluctuate so much there is a good chance I could fry something depending on protection.. I also have a lot of other trops that have to come in and as we all know the more you collect the more changes to the landscape need to be made.. I can stick them under the house and never give them (for the most part..LOL poor DC's) another thought till Spring.. Which is good for me I have over a 100 Trop plants in the house and garage that will be looking for a home outside very soon.. and YES! I have more coming...The GH Fairy is on the way!!! hehehe
I am a Z8ish depends on who ya ask...LOL
I hope you have AN AWESOME Banana season!!!!!! I can't wait o see what you come up with!
Kylie:waving:

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 04:44 PM
DED thousand fingers.....Huhaaaaa....

bananimal
03-08-2009, 08:22 PM
I had a friend who sold me an Ae Ae pup a few years ago. It was part of a clump that he planted in the front yard. Yeah right, of all places. A few weeks later, he emailed me that the other, bigger pups were pulled out of the ground during the night.

That's the way it goes folks. If you got something good, and you show it off right in front of their faces, someone will grab at it. Protect what is yours. The 6 foot Florida fence is the first step. A Chloe dog, Labrador Retriever, with acute hearing is the next. Having ten acres to plant it centrally is even better! Land mines and trip wires, the last resort, yuk, yuk.

The next to last comment was a nod to my Uncle Frank at his SW Miami farmstead back in the 50's and 60's - the ten acre part, that is! He always answered the front door doorbell at nite with a gun in each pocket!

Remember, Adrian Monk always says, "there's a jungle out there".

Dan

Kylie2x
03-08-2009, 09:35 PM
LMFAO!!! Dan!!!
I wish you were my neighbor...We would get along just fine...
I am not that tolerant of blatant disrespect.. It didn't happen when I was a kid..
Kylie:waving:

Patty in Wisc
03-12-2009, 10:59 PM
Someone been smoking nana leaves?

Not referring to any posts seen here. There was a post just before this that was VERY bizzare & gruesome. The guy was obviously on something. Glad it got deleted!

Bob
03-13-2009, 01:26 PM
I saw it and Pm'd chong. Very little disturbs me , that did.

bananimal
03-13-2009, 08:22 PM
Kylie,

I have empty lots on each side of me. Land is a lot cheaper than it was 4 years ago. Come on down neighbor! Do you have a lottery in your state?

I'm working on a random number system that is so out there in the public domain that it must be invisible to most folks. Sorta like hidden in plain sight.
Met a gal in the local Valeromart that consistently wins - small, that is. Got me started investigating. Time will tell.

The guy I got the Ae Ae from was Jeff from Worldwide Plants. He lives in Boynton - an area rife with nitetime mischief. He knows now to take care of his stuff.

Dan

Caloosamusa
03-23-2009, 03:09 PM
:2200: Today I killed over 2 dozen melaleuca seedlings to small trees, and a few shinus(Brazilian pepper), and some other invasive exotics on my "farm." :2239:

Richard
04-02-2009, 12:57 PM
Today I destroyed a portion of my 4-inch plant stock for various reasons: bolting, rusting, and simply not selling. This included Costmary, Dogbane (Coleus cannis), Orange Mint, Arugula and other salad greens -- about 100 individuals in all. This leaves a remaining 4" inventory of about 1600 individuals.

Tog Tan
04-23-2009, 08:22 AM
Bees! A whole hive in a cracked wall.

I was at my friend's place this evening and his neighbor asked him how to tackle a bee hive in a cracked wall. The crack was along the stretch and in a couple of places. So I decided to do a Thermopylae on it. :ha:

I put a wet towel snugged to the crack and left a small gap which I unleashed a can of aerosol Shelltox. The bees were resting for the evening so they were taken by surprise. As they tried to come out, they were killed at the small gap. This helped to keep the fumes in the nest and whatever that came out, they were too disoriented to attack me. Took 20 mins to quell the whole hive. They will cement up the crack to keep the bees off.

A good lesson from the history of the Spartans!

mskitty38583
04-23-2009, 08:26 AM
for the last month i believe i have desimated at least half of an ant colony who has invaded my kitchen. im all for live and let live...but you know i dont go and invade their colony i dont want them to invade my home. it may not be much by its mine and its paid for. lol.

Caloosamusa
04-26-2009, 05:07 PM
Here in South Florida a small " chemical warfare" ant is sometimes a problem.

Today I found a few trespassing Shinus (Brazilian peppers) seedlings and weeded them with haste. They are an invasive species here that is really bad news. Like a passion vine in Hawaii. :2239:

Sixwing
05-11-2009, 03:06 PM
Cucumbers! =(
Six little seedlings, all of which were hardened off, none of which could stand the attention of the sprinkler.
Sigh...

ewitte
05-11-2009, 03:17 PM
Last week killed a raja puri pup. Tried to do a tissue culture knowing very well there was only a tiny amount of corm.

Scuba_Dave
05-11-2009, 05:01 PM
Possibly 2 dogwoods, 2 apple trees, 2 butterfly bush that I had to transplant. Still more gardening to do. I have an area along a stockade fence I need to clean up - about 30'

Bees! A whole hive in a cracked wall.

I hope they weren't honey bees - they are on the decline
Most beekeepers will come get honey bees for free

ewitte
05-11-2009, 07:27 PM
I hope they weren't honey bees - they are on the decline
Most beekeepers will come get honey bees for free

I thought I had bees last year but after looking over my pics at 12x zoom realized they were yellow jackets and sprayed them.

Patty in Wisc
06-04-2009, 07:33 PM
I thought yellow jackets were honey bees. What is the diff? I am so allergic to bees, if I get stung again, it's the epi pen & E room for me or I'll die :(

I planted a bunch of veggies from HD & the cucumbers died. I wonder if they'll replace them with only the tag. The last of my 6 EE's from A.S. died too. A wasted $22.00.

Another squirrel.

Scuba_Dave
06-04-2009, 07:58 PM
They are very different
I kill yellow jackets without hesitation
Honey bees as long as you aren't near the nest will usually leave you alone

My apple trees are growing, nothing from the dogwoods yet
1 butterfly bush is OK, 2nd - nothing

http://blogs.cas.suffolk.edu/podcasting/files/2008/04/honeybee-full.jpg

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/files/yellow/pic07western.jpg

Patty in Wisc
06-04-2009, 08:43 PM
Thanks Dave. I just did a search on them & I couldn't tell the diff in the pics. Your pics are better - so the top one is a honey bee I assume. Bumble bees are the only ones that don't bother me. That bottom pic...I don't think I've seen one that yellow.

bananimal
06-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Patty,

Be careful around yellow jackets. They are very aggressive. The whole hive will come out and attack you - they are very fast to sound the alarm to each other.

Back in NC I was weed wacking a planting bed and hit a nest that was formed in a depression on the ground under the mulch. Didn't notice till my legs started to get stung. In an instant they felt like they were on fire. Looked down and found myself covered in yellow jackets. Dropped the whacker, still running, and ran for the deck. Tried rubbing the legs while running. Looked like practice for a one legged ass kicking contest.

Had an outdoor shower installed and turned it on fast. Most of them didn't follow me - just the ones still gouging my legs with their stingers.

Had about 30 to 40 leg bites between the tops of the socks and the bottom of my shorts. Man was I on fire, Took 4 benadryl, 2 oxycodone from a left over prescription, 2 shots of scotch and finally 4 beers. And that's when the pain was tolerable enough to sleep. The next day most of the pain was gone and all I had left to do was deal with the hangover. Two lunch beers did the trick.

Bottom line - don't mess with YJ's. As it turned out, the nest I disturbed was a small one. If it had been big it would have been ER time for me.

Dan

Patty in Wisc
06-05-2009, 12:49 AM
Great story Dan! My gosh, you poor thing... I'd be dead. Loved your anecdote LOL-- what I would do. Oh, I think I need 2 benadryl now thinking of it!
The time I really reacted was the 4th sting I ever got. They say that after 3 stings, you will develope a allergy - so be careful.
I was in my garden - barefoot, & I stepped on one -just barely stung my 2nd toe & within 5 minutes my leg was red & my tongue started swelling. E ROOM! Hives everywhere & could hardley breath. I thought I'd die then. Was horrible.
I WILL NEVER walk barefoot in my garden again! What kind of bee was this (the doctor asked)??? I didn't know. Anyone? I know it wouldn't have stung me if I didn't step on it.

ewitte
06-05-2009, 08:43 AM
LMAO I need to post the picture of myself when I sprayed the yellow jacket hive outside my door. I was wearing several heavy jackets, ski mask, goggles, many socks, scarfs, etc. Sprayed real quick and closed the door. The spray I used killed them pretty much instantly though. Soaked their house real good and left it a week to prevent others from coming back.

cowboyup4christ
06-09-2009, 10:46 AM
Thinking about killing the deer who are randomly pruning my apple trees and eating all the leaves off my plum trees. didn't take but one or two of my habs to break em from sucking eggs on that front, but they are still grazing on my Anihiems, was looking forward to some roasted chiles this year. maybe I should use land mines, just joking ,but have thought about a SAW, take out the whole heard that way, anybody in need of vinison????

Sixwing
06-10-2009, 11:39 AM
Cowboy:
If you plant some tarragon in with the peppers, the deer may leave them alone.
One anecdote does not data make, but I had problems with deer eating my herb garden.. until they got to the tarragon. They trimmed the top off, and the tracks said they went straight from tarragon to fence. They didn't come back.
Apparently, tarragon is not delicious to deer.

pitangadiego
06-10-2009, 01:23 PM
2 gophers.

ArchAngeL01
06-30-2009, 09:07 PM
some bacopa crispied in the baking 103 F weather today :-|

fergus banana
06-30-2009, 09:24 PM
i dont know if he is dead, but one of my jack's giant is very slow to put out a new leaf. i think i put him in too big a pot. sux.

all the rest of the plants are growing well.

another thing with the jacks giants: spider mites seem to love em. sux again!

Patty in Wisc
06-30-2009, 11:36 PM
It was a slow death, but I gave up on my little Siam Ruby & Raja Puri. Bought them in Nov. when they were tiny TC's. I guess they couldn't take the few cool damp nights here last 7-8 weeks. Weather is crazy here...6 days ago we had highest temp (98f) since July 07 & today it's in 50's!!
I also lost all my EE's from the big Agristart order. Then, I bought 4 caladium bulbs & they will not come up ...prolly already dead when I got em. Boo hoo
Oh yeah, last week - a raccoon.

fergus banana
07-01-2009, 08:55 AM
It was a slow death, but I gave up on my little Siam Ruby & Raja Puri. Bought them in Nov. when they were tiny TC's. I guess they couldn't take the few cool damp nights here last 7-8 weeks. Weather is crazy here...6 days ago we had highest temp (98f) since July 07 & today it's in 50's!!
I also lost all my EE's from the big Agristart order. Then, I bought 4 caladium bulbs & they will not come up ...prolly already dead when I got em. Boo hoo
Oh yeah, last week - a raccoon.

damn. that sux.

ArchAngeL01
07-01-2009, 02:07 PM
poor siam :( :0493::0493::0493:

ewitte
07-02-2009, 09:10 AM
Question here is what did you NOT kill. I was driving to work this morning and saw a whole field of brown dried up corn stalks.

June 21,22...

High temps 100,97,98,102,102,101,99,102,101,99,101
Estimate Today, tomorrow... 99,100,100,100,101,98,98,97,97

Precipitation June - 0.79in
So far for July - 0in

Besides that my Raja puri is growing like crazy.

Jack Daw
07-02-2009, 12:04 PM
No one wanted any SDCs, so I regretfully admit planting about 20 of them in the fields close to where I live. The plants will thrive there, until about november or December. God bless ther little souls, but I couldn't place them anywhere else. Well maybe I will go and dig them up in October, won't I. :D If I don't forget about them... that is.

ArchAngeL01
07-02-2009, 01:51 PM
i wants sdc ...:D lol
i killed a cordyline ,it baked in the hot sandy soil in the 103 F weather

Bob
07-02-2009, 02:08 PM
Japanese beetles chowing down on my prized Dwarf Nam Wah.....with extreme predjudice I might add.

ArchAngeL01
07-07-2009, 08:58 PM
they like my basjoo yet i squeeze there heads and they drop off lol

ArchAngeL01
07-21-2009, 02:14 AM
well a rabbit ate my cordyline today :\ :(

browndrake
07-21-2009, 09:25 AM
wilt took half my tomatoes in last week.

TommyMacLuckie
07-23-2009, 10:29 AM
Everyday for the past, oh, two months:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1264/1065500565_b5bf5f7662.jpg

Eric
07-30-2009, 11:33 PM
A Rex begonia cutting... Even after all the reading I did at IBS & Begonias R Us. Oh well, time to try the split-leaves method.

SoBe Musa
07-31-2009, 12:59 AM
A good question ..!I went into a rampage against red spiders mites..
They were killing my passiflora vines and some of my small bananas.
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/JULY272009PLANTS007.jpg

SoBe Musa
07-31-2009, 01:02 AM
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/JULY272009PLANTS009.jpg

Eric
07-31-2009, 04:41 AM
Thinking about killing the deer who are randomly pruning my apple trees and eating all the leaves off my plum trees. didn't take but one or two of my habs to break em from sucking eggs on that front, but they are still grazing on my Anihiems, was looking forward to some roasted chiles this year. maybe I should use land mines, just joking ,but have thought about a SAW, take out the whole heard that way, anybody in need of vinison????

Go for it! I'll grab my .308 & join ya. Got a good recipee? Needs lots of pepper :)!

Patty in Wisc
07-31-2009, 12:53 PM
Squirrel #91 - who's been digging up my potted plants lately!!

Eric
07-31-2009, 04:26 PM
Squirrel #91 - who's been digging up my potted plants lately!!

A friend once told me that if you feed the critters they'll leave the plants alone :). Tried it...... Everything was bountiful & multiplied, everything but the plants (what plants?).

BTW, watch out for racoons, too. They can take a huge Elephant Ear plant out in a single night :(.
BYE

Richard
09-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Into the mulch pile went about 300 root-bound, heat-stressed annual herbs, and another 150 overstock perennial herbs.

cvining
10-07-2009, 09:54 PM
uhm...nothing really.

Hello everyone.

- Cathryn -

fredos417
10-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Ants in my plant, I really hate those ants. So I pour water on them. Did I kill them?

sunfish
10-09-2009, 10:31 PM
Maybe a few.

Maggie87
10-13-2009, 07:21 PM
A whole colony of bees.

island cassie
11-27-2009, 06:01 PM
One mat of dwarf cavendish (3 mats is too much) and one mat of unknown nanas that were doing very poorly - gonna replace them with more tall reds!

curriedrice
12-19-2009, 12:15 PM
My currently potted bananas all look sad. Misi Luki is definitely gone, Cardaba is touch and go and FHIA-18 is non-responsive. Come spring time it'll be time to start over.

I learned my frost lesson!

Caloosamusa
12-19-2009, 06:44 PM
Two blind snakes that are invasive exotics in Florida, normally snakes are our friends but not these, I think. They were in the potted dwarf Namwa I was planting. :2239:

Patty in Wisc
12-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Now that would scare the bejebes outta me!

Abnshrek
12-26-2009, 01:27 PM
Well we're @ 121 just knockin' them down :^) w/ pellet gun. Well sometimes they get stuck in the trees.... :goteam:

#131 a Big fat red fuzzy Squirrel (a male w/ no balls) .. :^) :0519:

mjdsinsacto
12-26-2009, 01:47 PM
cannas, young ensetes, and elephant ears are all kaput. my yard is a dead zone. i don't even go out there now. it's too awful looking.

saltydad
12-26-2009, 06:24 PM
#131 a Big fat red fuzzy Squirrel (a male w/ no balls) .. :^) :0519:

Is that a physical description or a character evaluation? :ha:

Abnshrek
12-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Is that a physical description or a character evaluation? :ha:

Definately both :^)

Patty in Wisc
12-29-2009, 12:40 AM
cannas, young ensetes, and elephant ears are all kaput. my yard is a dead zone. i don't even go out there now. it's too awful looking.
Sorry mjd, I'd feel bad too. What happened? Too cold? I know you went thru some 'stuff' & I hope you're OK now... maybe just a little neglect on the plants from the stress on you! Hope they all come back:)

jwmahloch
12-29-2009, 09:53 AM
My rubber tree plants have dropped half of their leaves. They look kind of scraggely but they did that last winter and came back to life in the spring when I put them back outside. Its probably from not enough light. Has anyone else had this problem?

jwmahloch
01-01-2010, 08:51 PM
One of my crotons in my greenhouse died, it was close to the vent and must have gotten a cold draft. Everything else in my greenhouse is fine though. Add more bubble wrap insulation inside my greenhouse today.

Abnshrek
01-02-2010, 04:36 PM
Well I killed a 100ft. pine tree I just get to clean up the branches..:simpatica :^) On the banana side I think I killed my glui khai, 2 doubles mahoa, and a partridge in a pear tree :^)
:(

Taylor
01-18-2010, 09:13 AM
Truly Tiny.

SoBe Musa
01-18-2010, 05:23 PM
Dead ..my long waited Praying Hand bunch is dead! I dint’ kill it
..the weather conditions that we had for almost 2 weeks was to blame…
But in a good note the sister plant(see pic) is showing a flag leaf ..it look like I may be possible to taste it this year…
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/VARIOSJAN2010001.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/GardenJan162010133.jpg

Sister plant flag leaf
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/VARIOSJAN2010003.jpg

deruo
01-21-2010, 12:06 PM
Basjoo #1, purchased last May. Never was a very vibrant plant.
After droopy leaves that curled up brown, a black cigar leaf, a bout of spider mites, I discovered black mushy parts on the pstem today , so I finally cut it back and put it to rest in a dark cool closet in hopes of starting over in the spring.

nickmccann
01-31-2010, 11:54 AM
I have this product called 'N-sulate", its a frost fabric that I used this past cold snap to protect my smaller varieties (8 feet and below..), and it worked great!...I first tied up the leaves flush against the pseudostem and then double wrapped the entire plant from bottom up , mummy style. The temps dropped to 26 overnight and the next day I unwrapped and they were only slightly effected!....now if I could just figure a way to save my Sabas from the cold it would be great, but I had to settle for protecting the Corm and had to watch the surface growth melt!!

Caloosamusa
04-26-2010, 08:49 PM
Today while planting a Thai Black, I found and killed a Blind snake. These are supposed to be "Invasive exotics." I realize they are exotic, not native to Florida, being of asian origins, but I must question their invasive qualities. They do fill a niche, and have predators that eat them here, so are they really invasive? Ooops, new thread needed, but probably of no interest here. :2239:

sunfish
04-26-2010, 09:53 PM
Today while planting a Thai Black, I found and killed a Blind snake. These are supposed to be "Invasive exotics." I realize they are exotic, not native to Florida, being of asian origins, but I must question their invasive qualities. They do fill a niche, and have predators that eat them here, so are they really invasive? Ooops, new thread needed, but probably of no interest here. :2239:


Diet: Texas blind snakes most often eat ant larvae and pupae and termites, but they sometimes eat other insects and spiders. They always eat ant larvae and pupae whole, but they often refuse to eat the heads of termites and sometimes only chew the juices out of the back portion of the termite. Once in a while, a small owl known as a screech owl will swoop down to snatch a Texas blind snake and, keeping it alive, bring it back to its nest. There, the snake cleans out the nest by eating small invertebrates that might otherwise nibble on the owl.

Abnshrek
04-26-2010, 10:33 PM
Well hail killed two Manzano's & a goldfinger I do believe.

palmtree
04-26-2010, 10:56 PM
I grew a lemon tree from seed from a grocery store fruit for 2 years but I put it in a corner while taking plants outside and forgot it was there. When I saw it, it was dead from lack of water (probably thanks to the clay pot it was in)

jwmahloch
04-28-2010, 04:57 PM
3 boston ferns that I had in my basement under grow lights over the winter. Looked like crap so I got rid of them yesterday. Apprentley ferns need high humidity and arent the best houseplants. the fern I had in the kitchen did make it, it must have been more humid in my kitchen.

Dalmatiansoap
04-30-2010, 02:34 PM
Raja puri :(

cowboyup4christ
04-30-2010, 03:27 PM
no bananas but potted two fuyu persimmons, and getting ready to plant a mango seed in a pot to see if it will sprout. forgot all my pepper seeds failed to sprout so that would be 4 flats

Abnshrek
04-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Well hail killed a pisang ceylon too. :^(

natej740
05-01-2010, 01:05 AM
Im pretty sure my Musa Sikkimensis "red tiger" is done for...

exovetek
05-01-2010, 02:12 AM
I killed an AEAE over the winter. Killed it to death. I thought vermiculite was a good sub for perlite. I Thought wrong. The mix stayed soggy for 2 weeks as my AEAE rotted away. I refuse to give up. I just repoted a new AEAE with a 2/3 palm/cactus soil, 1/3 perlite mix. I notice a significant improvement in drainage. I also used Humic acid to buffer the PH and put it under my Metal Halide light. I hope I have better luck this time.

Abnshrek
05-02-2010, 12:16 AM
I can say I killed my saturday waiting for Wind, tornado's, hail, rain and all that bad weather (when I could've been digging 7 holes, you know getting things done) and it never showed up.. Time is a precious commodity :^)

sunfish
05-02-2010, 10:15 PM
About fifty tomato plants.

CookieCows
05-03-2010, 11:42 AM
DOs did not survive outside overwintering with hay and barrels second year in a row so I'll try digging them up and storing in the dark, inside the workshop this winter. I have back up pups in the house so am ok but would like to cut back as much as possible the amount of overwintering done in the house. I lost one type of EE and I don't know off hand the name of it. The kind that has those huge sword like leaves that stick up straight. They're my favorite so will buy another one and dig it up in the fall.

I also lost a patchouli plant that was 3 yrs old and had a slow two and a half year decline. Had bad luck with that one from the get-go.

Dalmatiansoap
05-03-2010, 12:19 PM
About fifty tomato plants.

Fifty??
what happend there?

sunfish
05-03-2010, 01:30 PM
Fifty??
what happend there?

No more room to plant anything

Dalmatiansoap
05-03-2010, 01:37 PM
Haha, tomatoes hurts less:ha:
:woohoonaner:

Dean W.
05-03-2010, 04:07 PM
Haha, tomatoes hurts less:ha:
:woohoonaner:

Ya, at least they weren't bananas.

Abnshrek
05-03-2010, 10:49 PM
I had raised the hail death toll include a grapefruit (10") I grew from seed. Man that sucks :^)

Abnshrek
05-11-2010, 11:14 AM
We had some seriously gusting winds from the South last night (of course it was still 76 @ midnight) but it snapped one of my Valecia Oranges stems (broke the tape too (I'm using reverse duct tape from now on!)) off @ the ground I surely hope it has some root power. I'm sure its nothing like the power of Corm :^)

Youngbb
05-14-2010, 08:23 AM
I spectracided some Tropicana Canna Lilies.

SoBe Musa
05-14-2010, 08:29 AM
Praying hand Flag leaf was in January, maybe unusual cold temperatures this year did it!she just stop growing.
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/GARDENMAY132010.jpg

Youngbb
05-14-2010, 09:53 AM
It was an accident, just trying to kill some wayward grass...

Abnshrek
05-14-2010, 09:52 PM
I have no idea what happened to my Cavendish but it up and kicked the bucket (didn't find no grubs) I think it had to be from the hail, its been looking beat up ever since that happened & never recovered unlike everything else I had in the ground. Oh well it came from willis orchard (enough said). :^)

Dalmatiansoap
05-19-2010, 01:55 PM
Ice cream :(

Abnshrek
06-01-2010, 12:33 PM
5 Almonds that were growing from below the graft line..

MediaHound
06-01-2010, 12:50 PM
21 gun salute, attached:

Abnshrek
06-14-2010, 09:22 PM
2 DC's, and a bunch of cav pups went to the pig :^)

Abnshrek
06-27-2010, 09:50 PM
Some how managed to kill a Dbl mahio.. I guess I really don't need one of those. 0-4 lol :^) I must of had it in my unlucky kill'em pot.. lol

Sixwing
06-27-2010, 11:06 PM
Italian Globe basil. *grump*
Also, a small and unidentified banana, which did not appreciate being potted up.

Abnshrek
06-28-2010, 11:48 AM
A saba pup was just to close to the momma.. Man that sucks

Dean W.
06-28-2010, 02:57 PM
Ebun Musak, second in a row. I must not be meant to grow them.

guerich
06-28-2010, 09:00 PM
Bad year with some of my musa. Recently Big leaf magnolia transplanted from the wild. Two dead ...one barely clinging.

Abnshrek
07-08-2010, 04:41 PM
My unknowns went to the pig..

bananimal
07-09-2010, 07:30 AM
Som Ancho peppers painstakingly started from seed - - freakin whiteflies helped alot.

Various bell pepper varieties from seedlings from Bonnie. Has been a recurrent process for the last 6 months. Starting to believe they come with something wrong so you have to go back and buy some more.

Kentucky Wonder pole bean vines - too hot to produce.

Abnshrek
07-09-2010, 03:32 PM
a Jalapeno pepper.. something ate all its leaves.. and it had a pepper on it.. it was suppose to be part of my second crop.. man that sucks..

hammer
07-09-2010, 04:56 PM
Well just when I thought that something might not happen it did my 6 year old boy plowed into my praying hand banana plant with his bike broke it it off i hope will grow back.

Abnshrek
07-09-2010, 05:49 PM
Well just when I thought that something might not happen it did my 6 year old boy plowed into my praying hand banana plant with his bike broke it it off i hope will grow back.

Well your boy is ok.. I'm sure with the conducive growing environment it will make a fine recovery. <-hoping :^)

hammer
07-09-2010, 08:10 PM
Yes hes very tuff well see what happens with the plant.

passaflora
07-10-2010, 07:47 PM
2 seedling white oaks that my sister brought me from Woodbridge, CA The 4 pecan seedlings are still hanging in there.

nucci60
07-20-2010, 09:21 PM
my Sikki looks ready to meet it's maker.

Velutina
07-20-2010, 10:59 PM
Just hacked all my bananas with a machete. It felt great! :D

Velutina
07-21-2010, 12:05 AM
It's 10pm and 100F. I've decided that Las Vegas is not an appropriate climate for bananas.

bananimal
07-21-2010, 05:37 AM
Vel,

I'm guessed that prolonged death valley temps combined with 8% humidity made you do it. I felt that way after the 9 day freeze this year did so much damage to my naners.

The concept of growing stuff where a green house is required with an AC unit comes to mind. That would be nuts, and too much added expense!

Post pics - include the machete in full swing!

Dan

Dean W.
07-28-2010, 01:34 PM
Clobbered a Raja Puri while moving my compost pile around. The stem broke over at the ground. It's not completely dead, but will be set back.:(

Abnshrek
07-28-2010, 03:47 PM
Somehow even with sulpher powder something ate a loquat, and it deader than a doornail.. Man that sucks!!

DaveE
08-03-2010, 12:21 PM
California Gold pup with a pstem as big around as a baseball. Came out with no roots. :(

Abnshrek
08-03-2010, 12:41 PM
I found a praying hands ate up and dead.. It had a bunch of bore hole at the base of the corm. :(

tastyratz
08-11-2010, 11:08 PM
Wasnt today but thought this was the best place to post my lesson learned. Killed three basjoo plugs and half of my wifes small starting herbs/seedlings/sunflowers/etc a month or so ago.

Note to self, when they say antibacterial soap is a bad thing as a surfactant? they are NOT KIDDING. Within hours I had mushy stumps everywhere, guess I should have read the label a little more carefully.
But at least the pots were aphid free from there on in...

palmtree
08-12-2010, 05:55 PM
Goodbye to my tomato plants :( we havent had a lot of rain and they were in small pots so they didnt stand a chance even with daily watering and they were dried up completely. There was still a little green left on top and even a few flower buds but its already almost mid august so I probably would just barely get tomatoes from those blooms assuming the ants dont get to them first. My seedling coffee plants were almost gonners too since they got burned up from the sun (even though they only see about 30 minutes of sun and its when the sun first rises), but I noticed the problem and now its inside so hopefully it will survive!

SoBe Musa
10-13-2010, 11:46 AM
I didn't Kill it !something didt ??But my Mona Lisa is gone..well yes i did kill something the 4years old mat..what happen.?love this banana!!
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/aaaaIMG_1159.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/IMG_1159-1.jpg
In better times August of 2009
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/2009-08-11August2009.jpg

SoBe Musa
07-28-2011, 02:20 AM
My Kadarian Banana ,sadly are gone...only the mat is left...the out of control White fly, what a menace.
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/IMG_2013.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/IMG_2053.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/IMG_2014.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/IMG_2054.jpg

In better times..
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/KendriaAugust2009020-Copy.jpg

Dalmatiansoap
07-28-2011, 03:40 AM
Looks bad, any chance to have that fly under control?

SoBe Musa
07-28-2011, 09:09 AM
Hello Ante,
Not even a chance to get it under control..is here to stay or stay for a long time..
Is truly a mess we got the new about it in 2008 and nothing was done(in Public parks etc.) we are in front of the biggest park in Miami Beach with 100 years old trees infected..they all fly across the street.
Is the game we all play here in Miami (LOL),blame it to your city government or your neighbor the thing is nobody seen to do anything and in the middle all trees,palms and Bananas are dying...
I try all my best washing and applying stuff but is gone for a couple days and come back with a revenge . All my palms are sick too.
Here are couple links so you see How we dealing with it:
July/05/2011
Pesky white bugs make sticky mess - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/30/2300155/pesky-white-bugs-make-sticky-mess.html)

sunfish
07-28-2011, 07:34 PM
Composted 3- 6' Prayig Hand pups

Dean W.
07-31-2011, 02:30 AM
Does an animal count? I caught and killed a rat that had been digging up plants and chewing up everything. Also found a nest in some empty black pots. Threw some of the pot's out with the garbage. If anyone near Austin wants some 5-gallon pots let me know. Promise they'll be free from rodents!:ha:

caliboy1994
09-20-2011, 01:59 PM
I kill invasive Argentine ants just about every time I go and check on my plant. For some reason they seem to love it. I hope they're not tending aphids...

sunfish
09-20-2011, 02:31 PM
I kill invasive Argentine ants just about every time I go and check on my plant. For some reason they seem to love it. I hope they're not tending aphids...

Never seen an aphid on any edible only on Ensete maurelii

sunfish
09-23-2011, 02:58 PM
Musa Grand Nain

T-Black
10-09-2011, 11:22 PM
A crap ton of ants around my trees hopefully!

palmtree
10-10-2011, 12:01 AM
Probably my beautiful and tall Papaya tree :( It was a 1 foot tall seedling this past May when it went in the ground, and I dug it up early so that way I could pot it up and give it some time to re- establish itself (it is currently 6 feet tall from the soil to the top leaf). Unfortunately, the soil by me is really rocky which makes digging plants up really difficult so I only got a small amount of my Papaya's roots.

I watered it well, cut off some leaves, and Im hoping for the best. Wish me luck!

In another month, my banana plants will be dug up so Im worried about those too

sunfish
10-21-2011, 05:58 PM
Will Pitaya sprout back from the roots ? Trying to get rid of dragon fruit to plant something else,want to make sure it won't re-grow .

plundccre
04-14-2012, 08:54 PM
My Ae Ae. I went out this morning to see the stalk lying on the ground with the bottom 3 inches basically mush. Between the cold of winter and the few days of heavy rains, it seems to have done it in.

momoese
04-25-2012, 01:49 PM
Lots of weeds, some big Monzano corms and pups, some really big Namwah plants and corms, a couple Pisang Klotek corms, a ton of Stuttgart Canna (all of it), some geranium, more grass and weeds.

Next week I will kill all of my Lemon Ginger, Heliconia plants, Hawaiian Apple matt, Dwarf Cavendish matt, some Raja Puri, and some Dwarf Brazilian. Oh and more weeds and part of the rear lawn.

The following week I will kill a huge stand of Giant Bird Of Paradise.

I'm making room for more food crops. :)

Dalmatiansoap
04-25-2012, 01:52 PM
YaY! Thats genocide!

sunfish
04-25-2012, 01:57 PM
Lots of weeds, some big Monzano corms and pups, some really big Namwah plants and corms, a couple Pisang Klotek corms, a ton of Stuttgart Canna (all of it), some geranium, more grass and weeds.

Next week I will kill all of my Lemon Ginger, Heliconia plants, Hawaiian Apple matt, Dwarf Cavendish matt, some Raja Puri, and some Dwarf Brazilian. Oh and more weeds and part of the rear lawn.

The following week I will kill a huge stand of Giant Bird Of Paradise.

I'm making room for more food crops. :)

Great Idea.

jmoore
04-25-2012, 02:06 PM
I managed to kill my siam ruby, b*ll**ks! How did I manage that?

bananimal
04-25-2012, 11:07 PM
My Ae Ae. I went out this morning to see the stalk lying on the ground with the bottom 3 inches basically mush. Between the cold of winter and the few days of heavy rains, it seems to have done it in.

Peter ----- I have had so much trouble keeping my 2 AE alive I
am becoming an expert at trauma ER gardening. The same pstems are still in place pushing out new leaves for 3 years. The cold snaps kill off the summer leaf growth and new leaves continue in the spring. The main pstems keep getting fatter and the pups get a few inches taller. This plant is just too touchy. This year I plan to dig up the whole mat with the smaller 6 ft pstem and plant it in a hole with 100% fill of peatmoss and bark. I'll also mix in some sulfur with the fill. We'll see.

Even though your main pstem collapsed watch out for pups emerging. Dig out all the mushy pstem. If rot looks too extensive dig up the whoe mat and cut out and pot the pups with some good corm attached from the mama. If there is any.

plundccre
04-26-2012, 01:29 PM
Peter ----- I have had so much trouble keeping my 2 AE alive I
am becoming an expert at trauma ER gardening. The same pstems are still in place pushing out new leaves for 3 years. The cold snaps kill off the summer leaf growth and new leaves continue in the spring. The main pstems keep getting fatter and the pups get a few inches taller. This plant is just too touchy. This year I plan to dig up the whole mat with the smaller 6 ft pstem and plant it in a hole with 100% fill of peatmoss and bark. I'll also mix in some sulfur with the fill. We'll see.

Even though your main pstem collapsed watch out for pups emerging. Dig out all the mushy pstem. If rot looks too extensive dig up the whoe mat and cut out and pot the pups with some good corm attached from the mama. If there is any.

I ended up digging up the corm and trimming off the rot. Its just a waiting game now to see if anything sprouts from it.

Peter

Dalmatiansoap
04-26-2012, 03:30 PM
I'm making room for more food crops. :)

What do U have in mind?

robguz24
04-26-2012, 04:41 PM
All my Ice Creams seem to flop over as they get taller. Was going to dig one that wasn't doing well out and get rid of it. Was able to just pull the whole 5' stem out easily. Bottom was mush with some very happy corm weevils. Need to get more aggressive with them. They seem to love Ice Creams and wreak havoc on them. I catch as many around my Dwarf Brazillians but they seem to cause little damage to those. So one more Ice Cream dead, and likely soon to be more.

momoese
04-26-2012, 04:44 PM
What do U have in mind?

More vegetables and greens.

plundccre
04-26-2012, 04:57 PM
All my Ice Creams seem to flop over as they get taller. Was going to dig one that wasn't doing well out and get rid of it. Was able to just pull the whole 5' stem out easily. Bottom was mush with some very happy corm weevils. Need to get more aggressive with them. They seem to love Ice Creams and wreak havoc on them. I catch as many around my Dwarf Brazillians but they seem to cause little damage to those. So one more Ice Cream dead, and likely soon to be more.

Mahalo for sharing your yard photos. It seems like most of us are attempting to create, with varying degrees of success, what you can do in your back yard. My yard in Los Angeles is my little piece of Hawaii in an attempt to hold me over until I can move back to the Aloha State (at least part time) in another 4 - 5 years.

sunfish
04-26-2012, 05:51 PM
More vegetables and greens.

Tilapia pond ?

momoese
04-26-2012, 06:17 PM
Tilapia pond ?

I might try me hand at aquaponics in the future. I've been following a fellow board members foray into it and it looks pretty fun.

sunfish
04-26-2012, 07:04 PM
Fresh from the back yard

Tilapia Recipe with Garlic Butter - Baked Tilapia Fillets (http://southernfood.about.com/od/tilapiarecipes/r/bl40121z.htm)

Caloosamusa
05-07-2012, 06:54 AM
This week sometime I plan to dig up my Saba mat that produces little/poor fruit and replace it with SH 3640. :jalapenonaner:

Dalmatiansoap
05-14-2012, 02:18 PM
E. Maurelli :(

sunfish
06-01-2012, 01:14 PM
Babaco but I will root cuttings

<a href="http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/?action=view&amp;current=002-13.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/musanamwah/002-13.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Snookie
06-01-2012, 02:03 PM
Dirt Daubers in/around all those Burlap Sacks lol

Dalmatiansoap
06-11-2012, 04:39 PM
E. Maurelli :(

Its alive!!!
:birthdaynana::birthdaynana::birthdaynana:
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/IMAG5063.jpg
:woohoonaner:

Abnshrek
07-07-2012, 07:44 AM
2 baby sago's :^( I didn't kill them, my X sprayed the pot with plant killer.. I have a Pindo palm with same problem I think I can save.. :^)

Abnshrek
07-16-2012, 08:09 AM
I killed 6 mounds of fire ants w/ orthene.. :^)

Yug
08-30-2012, 11:00 PM
I killed a Manzano, and all the pups. The fruit was ripe and beautiful on the outside, but hard with brown areas on the inside. If a tree bears bad fruit, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.


The bunch
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50315&perpage=24><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50315&size=1 border=0></a>

The fruit
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50317&perpage=24><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50317&size=1 border=0></a>

That space is now occupied by my mystery (possible Iholena Lele) banana.

G.W.
08-31-2012, 11:36 AM
squirrel

robguz24
08-31-2012, 12:40 PM
I killed a Manzano, and all the pups. The fruit was ripe and beautiful on the outside, but hard with brown areas on the inside. If a tree bears bad fruit, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.


I have one growing too. That's one of the one Kepler & Rust say just never tastes very good in Hawaii. They said for it to be edible it has to be super ripe, much more so than the ones in your picture. Occasionally I have bought Hawaiian Apple bananas which were chalky and astringent when eaten at the same ripeness I'd normally eat a DB, so they were probably Manzanos. I would not have boughten one had I known, but since it's in the ground, I'll at least wait til mine fruits.

Yug
08-31-2012, 01:19 PM
I have one growing too. That's one of the one Kepler & Rust say just never tastes very good in Hawaii. They said for it to be edible it has to be super ripe, much more so than the ones in your picture. Occasionally I have bought Hawaiian Apple bananas which were chalky and astringent when eaten at the same ripeness I'd normally eat a DB, so they were probably Manzanos. I would not have boughten one had I known, but since it's in the ground, I'll at least wait til mine fruits.

Good luck with that :08:

I waited and waited, and finally when the top ones began turning yellow, I waited a little more until one had split its skin - THEN I harvested it since the birds would have had it if I hadn't.

Do you know of any other types that 'never taste very good in Hawaii'? :lurk:

robguz24
08-31-2012, 01:36 PM
Good luck with that :08:

I waited and waited, and finally when the top ones began turning yellow, I waited a little more until one had split its skin - THEN I harvested it since the birds would have had it if I hadn't.

Do you know of any other types that 'never taste very good in Hawaii'? :lurk:

That was the only one I recall them mentioning, which they did a few times. They made their disdain for it very clear, perhaps because it is more commonly grown than many other deserving varieties. It sounds like you harvested at the ideal time. Maybe see if you can get them to ripen until the skins are all black now that they are off the plant. I'd be curious to see if they improve or if they are yucky no matter how long they ripen.

venturabananas
08-31-2012, 04:17 PM
I have one growing too. That's one of the one Kepler & Rust say just never tastes very good in Hawaii. They said for it to be edible it has to be super ripe, much more so than the ones in your picture. Occasionally I have bought Hawaiian Apple bananas which were chalky and astringent when eaten at the same ripeness I'd normally eat a DB, so they were probably Manzanos. I would not have boughten one had I known, but since it's in the ground, I'll at least wait til mine fruits.

Gabe has mentioned this before, too. He's been trying to find a Silk (the subgroup that includes Manzano) cultivar that doesn't have this problem in Hawaii. But it's a problem that's not limited to Hawaii, at least the hard brown spots in the fruit -- most of the Manzanos I've bought in the supermarket here in CA, presumably grown in Central or South America, also have the hard brown spots. Occasionally I get a good hand of them, but so rarely that I've almost given up buying them. (Hopefully it won't be too much longer until my own mat puts out its first bud.)

On the other hand, I did buy some Manzano (definitely not "Hawaiian Apple" -- Brazilian/D. Braz.) at a farmers market in Hawaii that were good and didn't have the chalky texture, astringent flavor when fully ripe, or brown hard spots. So, at least somewhere and some times in Hawaii, you can grow this cultivar and have it be good. On the other hand, personally, I prefer "Hawaiian Apple" anyway, so maybe it's not worth bothering with Manzano in a place it doesn't normally perform well.

venturabananas
08-31-2012, 04:20 PM
I killed a Manzano, and all the pups. The fruit was ripe and beautiful on the outside, but hard with brown areas on the inside. If a tree bears bad fruit, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.


The bunch
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50315&perpage=24><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50315&size=1 border=0></a>

The fruit
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50317&perpage=24><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50317&size=1 border=0></a>


PS -- The Manzanos shown in these two photos aren't ripe enough yet. There has to be some brown/black on the peel and the peel has to be very thin. Letting them get riper will get rid of the astringency, but unfortunately it won't help with the hard brown spots.

robguz24
08-31-2012, 04:54 PM
I'll keep my fingers crossed. Mine probably has a year to go, and given that several plants haven't been what I bought them as, it's worth the wait for me to try.

venturabananas
08-31-2012, 05:17 PM
I'll keep my fingers crossed. Mine probably has a year to go, and given that several plants haven't been what I bought them as, it's worth the wait for me to try.

Cool, let us know how it works out. Manzano does fine in French Polynesia -- your next nearest neighboring set of islands!