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Gabe15
10-17-2008, 02:49 AM
This is what I pulled out of my lab today for their final growth stage (leafing out before delivery). It may sound like a lot, but compared to the ~52,000 plants that various people are waiting for us to deliver, we have a long way to go!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=13930&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13930)

stumpy4700
10-17-2008, 03:14 AM
Ewwwwwwwww a Banana forrest......:2140::2140::2140::2140::2140::2140:

frog7994
10-17-2008, 06:49 AM
:woohoonaner:Wow! That is realy cool!

griphuz
10-17-2008, 07:16 AM
Woah nice Gabe!
What species are they? Is it a lot of work to produce this much?
Kind regards,
Remko.

Bob
10-17-2008, 07:17 AM
Wow!!! Seems like a @#%t load to me.

JCDerrick
10-17-2008, 08:11 AM
Wow, now that's a lot of banana plants.

cedardave
10-17-2008, 11:52 AM
very cool...thats alot of bananas:nanadrink:

Bananaman88
10-17-2008, 12:23 PM
Very cool!

Gabe15
10-17-2008, 12:44 PM
Woah nice Gabe!
What species are they? Is it a lot of work to produce this much?
Kind regards,
Remko.
There are a few different varieties in the room currently (also some 'Manzano' and 'Pakil'), but all of the ones on that cart are 'Dwarf Brazilian' and the 'Williams' Cavendish.

Its hard to gauge how long it took to make these, since we are continually producing more and more all of them time, when we make a new box of plants we put it on the shelf to let them grow. I just went through and found which ones were close to being ready.

jason
10-17-2008, 06:16 PM
There are a few different varieties in the room currently (also some 'Manzano' and 'Pakil'), but all of the ones on that cart are 'Dwarf Brazilian' and the 'Williams' Cavendish.

Its hard to gauge how long it took to make these, since we are continually producing more and more all of them time, when we make a new box of plants we put it on the shelf to let them grow. I just went through and found which ones were close to being ready.

And how many have you found out of all those bananas ,that are variegated??>

Chironex
10-17-2008, 07:41 PM
Gabe, just wondering how many you, individually, make each day at your lab? I would imagine it can become monotonous, but certainly hones your skills at carving out the meristems.
My first one seemed to take forever. But, I was being careful not to cut too much off. Sure is a small thing to find in a huge corm.
Thanks for the photos.

Gabe15
10-18-2008, 01:34 AM
Gabe, just wondering how many you, individually, make each day at your lab? I would imagine it can become monotonous, but certainly hones your skills at carving out the meristems.

What we are doing right now we call "sorting", where we do not divide any meristems, we simply sort previously subcultured explants by size and cut them away from each other (if needed). Buds which are leafy with pseudostems are transferred to a medium with no cytokinins so they can resume normal growth for about a month until they are ready to ship. Buds with no leaves or pseudostem are transferred to a medium with a small amount of cytokinin to encourage them to leaf out. I personally do not do any of the initiation for our lab (putting plants into culture from a sucker), this was done a long time ago and I just work on multiplying the plants. During this stage, I probably make somewhere around 200 plants a day, working 2-3 hours.

What we do when building up our stock of explants is called multiplication. During that phase, we divide the buds (usually into 4 sections) and put them in a medium with a high cytokinin level. This encourages rapid multiplication of new buds (each of those divided pieces regenerates and forms more buds), thus one bud may quickly become about 16 (1x4x4). During that phase, you could do a lot more per day since it was easier and quicker. I think I would make about 500 per 2-3 hour shift.

It is very monotonous work, but its great practice and experience for higher level TC work in the future. Plus, I have full access to a banana TC lab for my own experiments!

51st state
10-18-2008, 01:56 AM
wow, what a job to have, easy life...:ha:

shopgirl2
03-29-2009, 08:25 AM
indescribable phenomenal!

lorax
03-29-2009, 10:16 AM
I'm using that photo in the TC article, Gabe. Hope you don't mind.

hammer
03-29-2009, 10:56 AM
wow what a job thats awesome

Gabe15
03-29-2009, 12:16 PM
I'm using that photo in the TC article, Gabe. Hope you don't mind.

Go for it!

mskitty38583
03-29-2009, 07:09 PM
gabe that sounds like my idea of HEAVEN.....3,300 nana plants. and here i thought i was growing a jungle. hahahaha. and out of the total 52,000 how many have got homes? we here on the main land could take some off your carts for you..

alpha010
03-30-2009, 04:03 PM
Time for Gabe to go find a Fe'i sucker and ....um.... help the Org out with some new shtuff.....lol.

Caloosamusa
04-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Good evening Gabe,

Alpha010 suggests a good idea that might be profitable. Many nurseries make more $ shipping than in actual production.

The picture of the Manoa valley fe'i with the pup in the background is nice!

Some would buy some of those small TC fe'i at $10 apeice or more. You are in a position to make some Rare bananas available to members of the org.

Please consider your humble subjects request.:2239:

frog7994
04-06-2009, 06:51 PM
Just let me know when you are offering some for sale.

ewitte
04-24-2009, 06:08 AM
I don't know what I'm doing for that scale of work but from what I seen with my Raja Puri banana plants can easily multiply like crazy. From 1 purchase I'm growing 4 plants already in less than a year. The hydroponic one is getting massive. Its probably already about 3/4 the size of the original plant The others kinda got discouraged by winter and are just now growing again.

alpha010
04-24-2009, 06:46 AM
I don't know what I'm doing for that scale of work but from what I seen with my Raja Puri banana plants can easily multiply like crazy. From 1 purchase I'm growing 4 plants already in less than a year. The hydroponic one is getting massive. Its probably already about 3/4 the size of the original plant The others kinda got discouraged by winter and are just now growing again.

What Gabe's lab did was 3,300 plants from (for arguements sake) 1 or 2 mother plants in well under a years time. (I wasn't sure if you were understanding the thread or not. I'm not trying to poke at ya.)

Smoothie
07-21-2009, 09:42 PM
Impressive =)

revensen
07-22-2009, 08:21 PM
That is the coolest picture I've seen in a while. Nice work!

Ohio'sBest
07-25-2009, 12:08 PM
Well 3,300 is a good round number that I could start with.

LilRaverBoi
07-25-2009, 01:43 PM
Just out of curiosity....approximately how many plants do you guys TC over the course of a year. I'm sure the number would boggle my mind.....hell, 3,300 is pretty intense to think about!

Gabe15
07-25-2009, 04:16 PM
I don't know the rate, but I know that we had around 50,000 plants to produce as of May with more orders coming in all the time. I wont be working at the lab anymore, but will still have access to a tissue culture lab to use.

Bob
07-25-2009, 08:29 PM
Seems to me there would be a great deal of interest in the Gros Michel varieties around the org( yeah, yeah especially me!). Look what Jeff Earl has been able to do with the origin unknown Ca. Gold. Strike while the iron's hot man!

Gabe15
07-26-2009, 06:16 PM
All in due time...if I have the time and resources it will be done.

kaczercat
07-30-2009, 12:05 AM
tc sounds like a fun project i would like to learn it someday :)

Eric
07-30-2009, 04:15 PM
Fantastic! And sure appreciate the info on TC. That's one complex project!

Ohio'sBest
07-30-2009, 09:58 PM
All in due time...if I have the time and resources it will be done.

Seems like an exciting trade. The only cultures I've done are mycelium.

Eric
07-31-2009, 12:50 AM
Seems like an exciting trade. The only cultures I've done are mycelium.

Um... Er... Well... That could easily be considered Ohio's Best :).

alah
11-15-2009, 06:33 PM
Um... Er... Well... That could easily be considered Ohio's Best :).

Hi, Eric .Please excuse me but I´m sure that I can calculate as wll as you do.
So, what´s that about summing 41?

If you like mathematical problems, just answer. Alberto.
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