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momoese
10-08-2008, 08:46 PM
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xavierdlc61887
10-08-2008, 08:53 PM
lol hahahah what the @#$%T@#$^@#$^

stumpy4700
10-08-2008, 09:39 PM
OOOPS......Well at 73 I guess we could all slip up once in awhile.:ha::ha:

momoese
10-08-2008, 09:48 PM
OOOPS......Well at 73 I guess we could all slip up once in awhile.:ha::ha:

I do already at 44!

harveyc
10-08-2008, 10:28 PM
At least he knows how many states we have and knows the correct posture with the national anthem is played. We all make mistakes; I'm glad I don't need to do this kind of speaking.

But I do think we're all fellow prisoners of mainstream media!

buzzwinder
10-08-2008, 11:13 PM
At least he knows how many states we have and knows the correct posture with the national anthem is played. We all make mistakes; I'm glad I don't need to do this kind of speaking.

But I do think we're all fellow prisoners of mainstream media!

Amen to that Harvey, we are all subject to the MEDIA for our news and information, kinda scary when you think about it. :bananas_b

momoese
10-08-2008, 11:20 PM
Honest mistake from Obama, senility from McCain. Apples and oranges "my friend" ;)

Taylor
10-09-2008, 12:24 AM
What is this thread doing here, guys?!

Come on now, 2 men that would otherwise be perfectly content talking about bananas are going to get in an argument over something irrelevant (Not saying this election is irrelevant at all, saying it is irrelevant on a banana website IMO). Other people are likely to chime in and get angry as well, and then; 1) This site is lowered to the level of all of those you don't like for discussing certain things, and 2) Less server space!!!!!! (LOL)

Let's get back to some good old banana discussion.

harveyc
10-09-2008, 01:10 AM
Hey, Taylor, don't you go telling us old farts what we can't talk about. You might make us angry, you know!

Mitchel, I don't think that McCain is the least bit senile. Pretty soon you're gonna have Tyalor calling both you and me senile too! I do remember Obama making the comment a while back about "my Muslim faith". There are those that would say that was neither senility nor a mistake! ;)

harveyc
10-09-2008, 01:11 AM
But on another matter, Mitchel, I think you've gone nuts and forgot to remind me about your nuts! ;)

Taylor
10-09-2008, 01:22 AM
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saltydad
10-09-2008, 01:24 AM
That's OK. Today I told Mom that our bougainvilleas will have to start coming inside. I refer to them as "my bougs", but instead called them "my boobs". Now I may be a tad overweight 60 year old man, but they're not that big! :ha: My feeling is McCain's slip is just a senior moment of no import, and I say this as a rabid Obama supporter.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 01:33 AM
Hey, Taylor, don't you go telling us old farts what we can't talk about. You might make us angry, you know!

Mitchel, I don't think that McCain is the least bit senile. Pretty soon you're gonna have Tyalor calling both you and me senile too! I do remember Obama making the comment a while back about "my Muslim faith". There are those that would say that was neither senility nor a mistake! ;)

Your right about the barack husein osama I mean obama slip. He could be the biggest sleeper agent of all time! (I know its a stretch, but certainly possible) I guarantee if bin laden and every foreign islamic extremest had a vote it would most certainly be for obama! He did study at a madrossa you know.
Say what you want about McCain, but all else left aside. obama WILL NEVER sacrifice 1% of what McCain did for this country and you know it. McCain could have come home almost imediatley after capture but instead he stuck it out for years with his FELLOW PRISONERS OF WAR , rather than be given preferential treatment and early release. Hell obama can't even sacrifice his smoking habit! I really shouldn't even be commenting on this, seeing as I come to this site for banana info. But I just couldn't take the media brain washed lefty lunacy, coupled with the blatant disrespect for a war hero any longer. If you haven't been in combat you have no idea what McCain has been through for this country. He has fought and protected with his very life (and has suffered severe and lasting injuries to this day!) your right to degrade and insult him, so just give that some thought before you spout off next time and at least thank him for your free right to do so.


McCain isn’t the only one to stumble over his words. Democratic candidate Barack Obama said in May he had been to “57 states.”

“Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it,” he said to a crowd in Oregon.

Knowing how many states we have must be above his pay grade???

saltydad
10-09-2008, 02:12 AM
"...if you haven't been in combat you have no idea what McCain has been through for this country."

Well, I qualify to comment, then, as an old combat medic, and while I always will have tremendous respect for his behavior while in the Hanoi Hilton, I have become an Obama supporter after much careful reflection and study. I have to say I thought that McCain really was treated like s*** by Bush's team in 2000, especially in North Carolina. Yet what does McCain do in 2008 but hire the same team that did it to him in 2000! I have lost a lot of the respect I had for McCain by his behavior in going for the right's support. so different than in 2000.

I will, however, renew my earlier request in another posting. Another forum I belong to had a political thread that really blew up into some nasty stuff. Quite frankly, I don't think I can convince any of the McCain supporters to vote for Obama, and I know I'll not change based on the postings in these types of threads. Instead I come here to enjoy the company of my fellow nana lovers of whatever political persuasion. I don't care if your red or blue, right or left as long as we all show each other the proper respect we deserve.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 02:21 AM
"...if you haven't been in combat you have no idea what McCain has been through for this country."

Well, I qualify to comment, then, and while I always will have tremendous respect for his behavior while in the Hanoi Hilton, I have become an Obama supporter after much careful reflection and study. I have to say I thought that McCain really was treated like s*** by Bush's team in 2000, especially in North Carolina. Yet what does McCain do in 2008 but hire the same team that did it to him in 2000! I have lost a lot of the respect I had for McCain by his behavior in going for the right's support. so different than in 2000.


I also qualify, I have no problems with reasonable views either for or against McCain but the lack of repect shown to him from people who DO NOT qualify (most of whom would probably drop into a fetal position at the first shot fired or a humvee back fire... are you listening heraldo?) to comment about his service to the country is repugnant.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 02:26 AM
"...if you haven't been in combat you have no idea what McCain has been through for this country."

I will, however, renew my earlier request in another posting. Another forum I belong to had a political thread that really blew up into some nasty stuff. Quite frankly, I don't think I can convince any of the McCain supporters to vote for Obama, and I know I'll not change based on the postings in these types of threads. Instead I come here to enjoy the company of my fellow nana lovers of whatever political persuasion. I don't care if your red or blue, right or left as long as we all show each other the proper respect we deserve.

I agree entirely but some people just have to spout everywhere they can, and I was foolish enough to step into the ambush even though I knew it was coming.

chong
10-09-2008, 02:40 AM
Settle down children! I can only imagine that he may be having a flashback of when he would offer encouragement to fellow prisoners while he was a POW. I remember that my Dad would occasionally have similar slips because of being a POW for only less than 2 years, after "participating" in the "Bataan Death March." As another VFW member just recently said to me, "The Japanese made the Germans look like Boy Scouts!" And if anyone thinks that the VC was anything close to the Japanese in WWII. . . . . they're probably right. You really have to at least see the aftermath, if you cannot be there, to appreciate this.

And there are parallels between McCain and my Dad. My Dad could have escaped during the march, being in familiar territory. He was also offered an early release. In both cases, he chose to stay because there were 30, or so, troops, under his command, who might become demoralized if he were to leave them. With this knowledge, and the environment that I grew up in, it is easy for me to respect a man like Capt. McCain, who insisted that other prisoners, more crippled than he was, be given an early in his stead. I may disagree with some of his policies as a senator, and there are some of you who I've told that to, and whether I vote for him or not, I will always have the utmost respect for this man, who thinks about the others before himself.

This is the same man who shut down the contract between the biggest employer in the State of WA and the Air Force in 2001, because of the corruption behind it. An Undersecretary is now serving time because of that failed contract. I should be mad at him because it meant loss of a lot of jobs in WA state. But is that right? In my view, I should respect him more. And I do.

Kylie2x
10-09-2008, 10:13 AM
:lurk:

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 11:08 AM
He did study at a madrossa you know.

No, it was a public school. Come on, even FOX debunked this rumor started by the Clinton campaign.

It's amazing people actually believe he's anything less than a proud, patriotic and Christian America. Funny how one minute he's a "sleeper" muslim and the next people want to rail on him about Reverend Write. Um... yeah, that makes sense.

The same crap goes for the flag pin, pledge, etc. Can we please stick to the REAL issues for once?

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 12:38 PM
No, it was a public school. Come on, even FOX debunked this rumor started by the Clinton campaign.

It's amazing people actually believe he's anything less than a proud, patriotic and Christian America. Funny how one minute he's a "sleeper" muslim and the next people want to rail on him about Reverend Write. Um... yeah, that makes sense.

The same crap goes for the flag pin, pledge, etc. Can we please stick to the REAL issues for once?

Was that a public muslim school??? Yah I thought so. He's the one who slipped up with the muslim comment I guess he must be senile as well then. Also I don't know how proud he is to be an american, his wife was actually only proud to be an american for the first time in her life after he started running for president. Maybe she should have resided somewhere else for the past 40 yrs.

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 12:45 PM
So if I go to a school that has no religious affiliation, that makes me an atheist? What rules are you playing by here? If I happen to know a guy or work with someone who later commits a crime, does that mean I "hang out" with criminals? I mean seriously? Guilt by association now? Really? Glass houses.

Things get blown out of contest in these political campaigns - it's getting absurd. And hypocrisy rules supreme. Had the situation with the pregnant daughter been reversed, and it had been Obama's daughter - there'd have been a war of words from the GOP about it.

Like I said... this should be about issues. The economy is tanking, we're at war, we've got a load of issues that need to be addressed and everyone's talking about the latest attacks from either campaign about Keating and Ayers. What is wrong with this picture?

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 12:51 PM
So if I go to a school that has no religious affiliation, that makes me an atheist? What rules are you playing by here? If I happen to know a guy or work with someone who later commits a crime, does that mean I "hang out" with criminals? I mean seriously? Guilt by association now? Really? Glass houses.

Things get blown out of contest in these political campaigns - it's getting absurd. And hypocrisy rules supreme. Had the situation with the pregnant daughter been reversed, and it had been Obama's daughter - there'd have been a war of words from the GOP about it.

Like I said... this should be about issues. The economy is tanking, we're at war, we've got a load of issues that need to be addressed and everyone's talking about the latest attacks from either campaign about Keating and Ayers. What is wrong with this picture?

I know we are at war. I fought in it. Did you? And the president actually has very little to do with the ecomomy. Your scooling comment also hold no water. I went to military school and would be kidding myself if I said it didntn't have an influence on me. Just as a catholic school a muslim school or a buhddist school for that matter would.

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 01:00 PM
I think you're deliberately trying to smear his education by focusing on a school he attended for a very small portion of his childhood - when he had little say in the matter mind you.

And what difference does it make if I personally have fought in this war? No, I haven't. But don't question my judgment or patriotism because of that. My family has been in this country since 1732 and fought and died in every major war we've ever been involved in. So I don't like your insinuation there.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 01:06 PM
I think you're deliberately trying to smear his education by focusing on a school he attended for a very small portion of his childhood - when he had little say in the matter mind you.

And what difference does it make if I personally have fought in this war? No, I haven't. But don't question my judgment or patriotism because of that. My family has been in this country since 1732 and fought and died in every major war we've ever been involved in. So I don't like your insinuation there.


I didn't ask about your family's accompliments....The question, have you fought was a direct response to you alerting me to the obvious fact that we are at war, and me letting you know I am well aware. And have probably had to modify my life as well as my famlies life way more than the average person because of it? No insuation at all, are you insecure?
I don't believe I want to comment on this subject any longer on here. This is a friggin banana forum for crying out loud.
If not for the political posts I would probably be having a pleasant interaction with JCDerrick and now it's getting edgey. So to avoid any further nastiness I am going to have to just say let's agree to disagree and put it behind us. I should have just defended McCain for his service and left it at that, instead of going after obama and getting into a wizzing match.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 01:17 PM
By the way great yard JCDerrick

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 01:21 PM
I agree, politics brings out the worst in everyone. So on that we can disagree, but on bananas. Nuff said, we're all here.:nanadrink:

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 01:23 PM
I agree, politics brings out the worst in everyone. So on that we can disagree, but on bananas. Nuff said, we're all here.:nanadrink:


Cool major melt down avoided! LOL wish international relations were that easy.

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 01:28 PM
Cool major melt down avoided! LOL wish international relations were that easy.

:ha: Would be nice. Normally I know better to stay out of political threads. :p

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 01:34 PM
:ha: Would be nice. Normally I know better to stay out of political threads. :p


Me too! But I was sucked in this time. In your fornt yard what plants do you have growing under the banans on the left. It looks great!

momoese
10-09-2008, 01:45 PM
Your right about the barack husein osama I mean obama slip. He could be the biggest sleeper agent of all time! (I know its a stretch, but certainly possible)


Reminds me of this....

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JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 01:46 PM
This one?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=13817&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13817)

You wouldn't know it looking, but everything but the banana, windmill palm, and sago palm are all in pots since none are hardy.

There are several hibiscus, crotons, two christmas palms, two chinese fan palms (which would probably do OK), a monstera, several cannas, an alocasia adora, and an colocasia gigantea. Also a brug or two in there, and some yellow flag.

I really want to put a Saba up in the front next year. I love hearing the neighbors tell me "You can't grow those here."

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 02:07 PM
This one?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=13817&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13817)

You wouldn't know it looking, but everything but the banana, windmill palm, and sago palm are all in pots since none are hardy.

There are several hibiscus, crotons, two christmas palms, two chinese fan palms (which would probably do OK), a monstera, several cannas, an alocasia adora, and an colocasia gigantea. Also a brug or two in there, and some yellow flag.

I really want to put a Saba up in the front next year. I love hearing the neighbors tell me "You can't grow those here."
Cool I think most of those moght make it ofr winter at my place.
I now have a good amount of bananas, but have to work on the undergrowth.

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 02:12 PM
I still have a lot of work to do on the undergrowth too; this bed in the front and one in the back are good - but the rest the bananas will soon tower over and it'll look a bit empty.

I would *love* to have your zone or warmer. I think you can even grow a T-Palm with decent results in your zone. Or at least the White BOP's - if protected. One day I have promised I will live in a warmer climate - though I'll admit part of the fun here is keeping all the tropicals alive and well; and seeing neighbors faces. Pulling them all out of the ground and storing them - not as much fun; my wife hates it. Plus it looks like my yard disappeared over night - someone stole it all (Jack Frost), LOL

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 02:24 PM
I still have a lot of work to do on the undergrowth too; this bed in the front and one in the back are good - but the rest the bananas will soon tower over and it'll look a bit empty.

I would *love* to have your zone or warmer. I think you can even grow a T-Palm with decent results in your zone. Or at least the White BOP's - if protected. One day I have promised I will live in a warmer climate - though I'll admit part of the fun here is keeping all the tropicals alive and well; and seeing neighbors faces. Pulling them all out of the ground and storing them - not as much fun; my wife hates it. Plus it looks like my yard disappeared over night - someone stole it all (Jack Frost), LOL


I have white birds of paradise we will see if they make it through the winter.
Oh and MOMO give it a rest. I already said I would not continue the discussion. Go stir some stuff up on a political forum.
Have a nice day.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 02:26 PM
It does get pretty cold at night here only for few hours a night though. It can get down to 26 or 27f for a few hours a few nights of the year,

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 02:30 PM
It does get pretty cold at night here only for few hours a night though. It can get down to 26 or 27f for a few hours a few nights of the year,

Same here, except our coldest nights usually are about 16F for one night a year or so, just enough to put us in zone 8. Typically we never go under 25F on the coldest of nights, but there's that one cold spell that always gets you. And it's usually right around Christmas or new year. After that, typically it won't leave the high 20's again. Though we have had some freakishly late frosts lately. April 15th this year and about the same the year before. I of course put all my plants out around March 15th bc it got up to about 70F or so; really nice and warm. Then comes that counter punch, LOL. Had to cover up half my yard like the circus. I'm sure my HOA really loved that.

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 02:58 PM
I have white birds of paradise we will see if they make it through the winter.
Oh and MOMO give it a rest. I already said I would not continue the discussion. Go stir some stuff up on a political forum.
Have a nice day.

Same here, except our coldest nights usually are about 16F for one night a year or so, just enough to put us in zone 8. Typically we never go under 25F on the coldest of nights, but there's that one cold spell that always gets you. And it's usually right around Christmas or new year. After that, typically it won't leave the high 20's again. Though we have had some freakishly late frosts lately. April 15th this year and about the same the year before. I of course put all my plants out around March 15th bc it got up to about 70F or so; really nice and warm. Then comes that counter punch, LOL. Had to cover up half my yard like the circus. I'm sure my HOA really loved that.



LOL. I am not dedicated enough to pot up and take my plants indoors. I just saturate the yard with plants and what lives lives and what dies dies!

JCDerrick
10-09-2008, 03:01 PM
I could learn to love that mentality. Right now this is what happens, haha

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=13706&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13706&ppuser=4126)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=13705&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13705&ppuser=4126)

lt_eggbeater
10-09-2008, 03:04 PM
LOL that looks great indside... I'm way too callous for that though! lol! We eill see what can make it. I do however put coleman gas lanterns under the trees at the coldest times. They throw off quite a bit of heat.

Kylie2x
10-09-2008, 04:03 PM
:lurk:

harveyc
10-09-2008, 04:15 PM
Who is Obama?

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momoese
10-09-2008, 05:20 PM
In! :nanadrink:

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