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Aric
08-24-2008, 07:21 PM
Hello everyone, I found the site today after looking for information on musa velutina and thought I should join. I live in East TN and have just recently started growing bananas. I also grow carnivorous plants such as Sarracenias, Nepenthes, Droseras, and a couple venus fly traps. My mom also grows brugmansias, sedum, alocasias, colocasias, daylilies, and many many others. The bananas I have now are basjoo (which seems to not be growing at all), velutina (which is getting fairly large) and one other that we are not sure on its ID. So this is my introduction and I look forward to reading the posts on this site and learning as much as I can about bananas.

Ahava
08-24-2008, 07:24 PM
Welcome to the org. There are many people on here that are very helpful and there is really some invaluable knowledge on this site. Sounds like you have quite the collection!

Aric
08-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the welcome. Here is a pic of the unknown banana we have, hopefully someone can ID it for us.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12709&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12709&ppuser=4045)

Randy4ut
08-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Welcome aboard, Aric! Glad to see you intro'd yourself. Hope you found my email response a help... As far as your mystery banana, I ain't real good at it, yet, but it sure looks alot like my red iholene... I also would like to throw in Musa Borelon into the mix. Although mine is not as vibrant in the coloration as yours seems to be.

Dean W.
08-24-2008, 09:06 PM
Welcome to the forum. The picture looks like a Rojo to me. See my avatar. But then again it dosen't look like it has as much red in it as mine.

Ahava
08-24-2008, 09:07 PM
Do you think possibly it might be a musa acuminata zebrina. They sell them alot at the stores around here as ornamentals. :/ I love the pure red on the bottom of that leaf!

Dean W.
08-24-2008, 09:41 PM
Ahava, here's the wiki page. Musa Sumatrana (Rojo) - Bananas Wiki (http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Sumatrana_%28Rojo%29) I think it's wrong. :ha:

Aric
08-24-2008, 09:54 PM
Do you think possibly it might be a musa acuminata zebrina.

Thats what I think it is but then again im new to bananas, I think the pic isnt the best since it was taken at night, ill have to get a pic of it when theres light.

Ahava
08-24-2008, 10:48 PM
Thats what I think it is but then again im new to bananas, I think the pic isnt the best since it was taken at night, ill have to get a pic of it when theres light.

I work at WallyWorld lol. And we had a flat of those come in, and your plant reminds me of them. I'm no expert by any means though. Goodluck finding out what it is. :)

mskitty38583
08-25-2008, 10:25 AM
well welcome from a middle tn'er. lol! well im gonna put my 2 cents in and say your lovely pic dosent look like my musa zebrina.....the underleaves on mine are not red....but it could possibly be a siam ruby. jmo.

mskitty38583
08-25-2008, 10:53 AM
ok i need to correct myself.....my zebrina does have red on the underleaf. that was my mistake. i had to go look....so that was my bad. upon further inspection of my bloodleaf yours looks a lot like mine. so i would say it is a musa zebrina.

Taylor
08-25-2008, 11:04 AM
I definitely think it is Musa Bordelon. And I am almost sure it is not Zebrina.

Bordelon:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=10672&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10672&si=bordelon&what=allfields)
(Whatever's picture)

Zebrina:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6645&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6645&si=zebrina&what=allfields)
(Foye's picture)

See the difference? Zebrina is blotches of red, while Bordelon is a much greener leaf, with a more waxy stem IMO.

I agree with Randy, definitely Bordelon.

Taylor
08-25-2008, 11:08 AM
Now let's compare.

Your banana versus Bordelon:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12709&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12709&ppuser=4045)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=10672&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10672&si=bordelon&what=allfields)
(Whatever's picture again)

You banana versus Zebrina:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12709&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12709&ppuser=4045)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6645&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6645&si=zebrina&what=allfields)
(Foye's picture again)

I hope you guys don't mind me using your pictures but they displayed the leaf well, and I am trying to make a point so that is important. So thanks again!!!

See the difference/similarities?

Aric
08-25-2008, 11:18 AM
Yeah I can for sure see the similarities between the bordelon and mine. Heres another pic of it but I think we have what it is nailed down.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12714&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12714&ppuser=4045)

Randy4ut
08-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Arin,
Here is another comparison of Bordelon vs. zebrinus that I have growing about 8' apart. Sorry the Bordelon pic is not the best quality with the intense sun we were having the day I took these pics...

Bordelon

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2008%20Temporary%20pics%20Bananas/100_2745.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2008%20Temporary%20pics%20Bananas/100_2746.jpg

Zebrinus:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/randy4ut/2008%20Temporary%20pics%20Bananas/100_2743.jpg

Kylie2x
08-26-2008, 01:24 PM
Hey Arin!!!
Welcome t the Org!
Nice looking Banana you have there.. I have to agree with Bordelon.. Mine is not as big as yours but it sure does look like it... I look forward to seeing you around!
Kylie

Taylor
08-26-2008, 01:26 PM
Randy, is that Bordelon hardy for you???

Randy4ut
08-27-2008, 04:44 AM
Randy, is that Bordelon hardy for you???
I really don't think it will be, but it has grown well enough to store some and leave some and see what happens. We'll see, I suppose...

Taylor
08-27-2008, 10:54 AM
You got me excited for a second!!!

jrozier
08-27-2008, 11:37 AM
Sorry chime in here late.....I also think Aric's plant is Bordelon. I purchased one labeled Bordelon which was a Zebrina, and later got real Bordelon from Sandy. Both are nice, but Zebrina isn't hardy at all (for me), and Bordelon does fine here with no protection.

Dean W.
08-27-2008, 12:36 PM
Sorry chime in here late.....I also think Aric's plant is Bordelon. I purchased one labeled Bordelon which was a Zebrina, and later got real Bordelon from Sandy. Both are nice, but Zebrina isn't hardy at all (for me), and Bordelon does fine here with no protection.

Joe, so did you lose some Zebrina in zone 8b? Now I'll have to get a Bordelon.:ha:

Lagniappe
08-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Zebrina does fine here in 8a. That plant is Bordelon,see how the leaves trail down the petiole ?
I went to cut a Bordelon for a member today and all the plants had flags:P
Now he'll have to wait for pups .

xavierdlc61887
08-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Zebrina does fine here in 8a. That plant is Bordelon,see how the leaves trail down the petiole ?
I went to cut a Bordelon for a member today and all the plants had flags:P
Now he'll have to wait for pups .

grrrrr

bigdog
08-27-2008, 09:09 PM
Hi Aric, what part of E. TN are you in? I'm in Knoxville. Wecome to the .org!

Nice little 'Bordelon', btw. Isn't it cool how all the members here can come together and nail down an ID? Doesn't always work like that, but I thought it was pretty cool.

Frank

jrozier
08-28-2008, 07:46 AM
Joe, so did you lose some Zebrina in zone 8b? Now I'll have to get a Bordelon.:ha:

Dean,

Zebrina died for me twice over the winter here. I even protected it the 2nd time. Maybe it's just me...zone 8 in Louisiana should be roughly the same as here. I keep one in a pot now.

JOE

Aric
08-28-2008, 09:38 AM
Hi Aric, what part of E. TN are you in? I'm in Knoxville. Wecome to the .org!

Thanks for the welcome, im in Seymour.

Dean W.
08-28-2008, 10:17 AM
Dean,

Zebrina died for me twice over the winter here. I even protected it the 2nd time. Maybe it's just me...zone 8 in Louisiana should be roughly the same as here. I keep one in a pot now.

JOE

Joe, sorry to hear that. I'm actually in Texas not Lousiana.

Lagniappe
08-28-2008, 10:30 AM
Buffy's zebrina bloomed in z8 Texas .

http://www.bananas.org/f2/cutting-back-pseudostem-5780.html#post50390
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