View Full Version : Fay, West Florida Landfall possible?
proletariatcsp
08-16-2008, 12:19 AM
As of 1 am, 8/16, forecast models for tropical storm Fay remain unchanged in its predicted landfall on the west coast of Florida.
The storm is expected to cross over Cuba and then enter the Gulf on a NNW track, reaching Tampa Bay by late Tuesday.
And I just planted my frigin' Ice Cream for crying out loud!!!!
Has anyone ever wrapped their nanner in a poly tarp and tent staked it?
Rebar would work great but I'm broke. Good luck to you all as well.
Richard
08-16-2008, 01:20 AM
http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath06_ltst_5nhato_enus_600x405.jpg
dablo93
08-16-2008, 03:44 AM
maybe it will go straight across florida or to alabama, you never know.
I hope it stays weak!
heynow
08-16-2008, 09:14 AM
Fay stay away! I am in the tampa area here are my pre-fay bananashttp://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12388&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12388)http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12387&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12387)
Dean W.
08-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Hope you all go unscathed. You could send the rain our way.
microfarmer
08-16-2008, 02:05 PM
Good luck to all the Floridians and Gulf Coasters! May your bananas stay strong and Fay stay weak! :lurk:
island cassie
08-16-2008, 02:19 PM
Fay swerved away 60 miles south of us last night thanks to the mountains and just gave us some rain. We have spent the morning taking out all the stuff we brought in - seems to be more than we started with I must say.
We think that Fay will go further south to Jamaica and the Cayman Islands, and then up to Pensacola and Mobile, rather than the projected course of Key West, Tampa and Savannah - but anything is possible as we all know.
Good luck everybody and Dean - be careful what you wish for at this time of year! lol!
Cassie
Kenzie_POM
08-16-2008, 07:21 PM
Hey ya'll,
Greetings from Mobile. Yep. Faye could swerve our way. Who knows which way these things wander. My wife went to the grocery store this afternoon. Said it was a zoo. The bread aisle was almost empty. The bottled water aisle looked as if sacked by Gheigis Khan. The news this evening showed a live spot from Lowes or HomeD. There was a lot of plywood being purchased.
Bananaman88
08-16-2008, 09:06 PM
Yes, good luck to everyone in Florida or wherever she ends up going. Not growing up along the coast, hurricanes were new to me when I moved to Houston a few years back. We evacuated when Rita came through and that was about the worst experience of my life. I certainly don't want to repeat it any time soon. We lucked out with Eduoard a couple of weeks back and only got about 2" of much needed rain.
Hope you all go unscathed. You could send the rain our way.
Just an aside on your quote here, Dean. Where does the word unscathed come from? We've all heard it and probably used it all our lives but we only use unscathed. You always hear, "They escaped unscathed." You never hear of anyone being scathed! "Man that storm, wreck, etc. was terrible! Everyone was scathed!" I've just always found that to be an odd word-I'm not picking on you, Dean. Just a funny little thing of mine.
island cassie
08-16-2008, 09:10 PM
Good luck Kenzie - not wishing it your (or anyones) way at all!!
Cassie
Dean W.
08-16-2008, 11:17 PM
Just an aside on your quote here, Dean. Where does the word unscathed come from? We've all heard it and probably used it all our lives but we only use unscathed. You always hear, "They escaped unscathed." You never hear of anyone being scathed! "Man that storm, wreck, etc. was terrible! Everyone was scathed!" I've just always found that to be an odd word-I'm not picking on you, Dean. Just a funny little thing of mine.
I just thought it was a good word to use in this case. I even looked it up to make sure I spelled it right. :ha: Probally not proper grammar though. unscathed - definition of unscathed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unscathed)
dablo93
08-17-2008, 06:32 AM
it looks it will make a landfall near Tampa as a strong tropical storm or hurricane. your bananas will get damaged! :'(
last week we had gusts here of 40 MPH and lots of leafs are now damaged here..
paula
08-17-2008, 06:53 AM
Might sound stupid , but couldn't
you put a large sheet over the trees
and tie it to the base. I think it
would be less wind damage.
What do you think?
damaclese
08-17-2008, 07:34 AM
As of 1 am, 8/16, forecast models for tropical storm Fay remain unchanged in its predicted landfall on the west coast of Florida.
The storm is expected to cross over Cuba and then enter the Gulf on a NNW track, reaching Tampa Bay by late Tuesday.
And I just planted my frigin' Ice Cream for crying out loud!!!!
Has anyone ever wrapped their nanner in a poly tarp and tent staked it?
Rebar would work great but I'm broke. Good luck to you all as well.
this may not seem not aply but i have all my bananas in vary larf pots there alll 40gl to 60 gl pots i dig hols about 6" larger then the pots put the pots in the grownd then i place 2x4 on three sids back fill with durt by doing this you give yourself a realy stabal saport structure in which you can place shade cloths or as i plan to do this winter a nice miny green house but as the 2x4 are 3ft in to the grownd there vary stabal agenced high winds they don't have much surfice airea then you could rap them tightly with heavay tarps and id rap the hole thing with havy rops and tiye them donw to the grownd with long stakes out sid the pots i dont know how high a gale this would protect them but im sure it would servive at least a 100mil wind if your sunk the 2x4 at leas 3 ft if the nanas are tall well at least the forst would be deflected being that the holl structure is some what round and would there for let the wind theoreticly move smothly around them i hope that helps but for thos of your that live in marganal areas this is a realy good way to get stuff throw the winter but you have to moniter them morning and night to mantain the 55deg that is required to keep bananas growing you mite be serprised with such a smal green house at how fast they can heat up even on a cold day if thers plenty of sun i sapos you could add a heat sores but id realy wach that and defantly rember that watering could be problimatic if its farly cool but in zone 9 the grownd never frezes iven in cold winter so this works well for me hope that helped good luck and dont get hirt be safe ad go to high grown forget the nanas if its a mater of life and deth all be thinking about all of you my Bro lives in tampa so all be thinking about him any way! good luck!!!!
microfarmer
08-17-2008, 04:24 PM
Just an aside on your quote here, Dean. Where does the word unscathed come from? We've all heard it and probably used it all our lives but we only use unscathed. You always hear, "They escaped unscathed." You never hear of anyone being scathed! "Man that storm, wreck, etc. was terrible! Everyone was scathed!" I've just always found that to be an odd word-I'm not picking on you, Dean. Just a funny little thing of mine.
You've heard of a scathing report, yes? Scathed also is defined as: Defloration - an act that despoils the innocence or beauty of something...
among other things
scathed - definition of scathed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scathed)
Richard
08-18-2008, 09:53 AM
Incoming ... :islandsharkbanana:
http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath06_ltst_5nhato_enus_600x405.jpg
Bananaman88
08-18-2008, 12:17 PM
You've heard of a scathing report, yes? Scathed also is defined as: Defloration - an act that despoils the innocence or beauty of something...
among other things
scathed - definition of scathed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scathed)
I know we've hijacked this thread, but you're right Micro, I have heard of a scathing report. I just thought is was interesting that we all use unscathed a lot but couldn't think of any instances in which we used just the word scathed. Like I mentioned before, I wasn't trying to be critical of Dean, just a little quirk of mine I guess.
Good luck to all you guys and girls in FL! Hopefully you won't get much damaging wind.
proletariatcsp
08-18-2008, 09:54 PM
Ah, well now that they're able to measure the storm's pressure and temps again they've updated the track. Looks like it will make land fall as a Trop Storm, somewhere just north of Naples.
All plants are in the garage and I threw some bungee cords on rebar stakes and tied aroung my 'Ice cream.' I'm sure it will lose some leaves but hopefully it won't tople over.
Good luck to you all in Florida, and especially those of you in the south. For now at least Fay is not showing any intentions of becoming a Hurricane, so perhaps we will emurge "Unscathed!!!"
Bananaman88
08-19-2008, 11:44 AM
Ha-Ha! Yes, let hope everyone emerges unscathed!!! However, if anyone does get scathed please show us some pics of what it means to be scathed! OK, I'll stop now. Hope everyone in FL if faring well.
dablo93
08-19-2008, 12:53 PM
on satellite and radar it really looks lika an hurrican, it haves an eye but fay is on land, isn't it rare that a hurican/tropical storm forms an eye when it makes landfall?
jpfloors
08-19-2008, 01:46 PM
I'm in Rockledge/Cocoa (The Space Coast) area. It's coming STRAIGHT for us here!!! They say it'll be over our heads around 8pm tonight with 50 mile/hr winds and then it could even go back out on the water and possibly even come back in and hit us again!
heynow
08-19-2008, 04:03 PM
Good luck to you, It missed us in the tampa area but we still got some wind. I took this pic when it started to blow. My leaves are pretty tattered now with splits in them. I guess it does not hurt the plants that much. They just do not look as nice.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12518&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12518)
jpfloors
08-19-2008, 09:22 PM
so far only one plant has had damage... of course it'd have to be one of my fruiting bananas that completely snapped in half with fruit no where near being ripe!!!!
Heynow, what's the skinny banana at the bottom right side of the photo?
chong
08-19-2008, 11:02 PM
A member of a rare fruit society in the Philippines, who has a five hectare banana plantation and several hectares of papayas, trimmed 3/4 of all the banana and papaya leaves before the onset of the recent typhoon that went through the Philippines. Despite being near a large lake and near the eye of the storm, his only casualty was one mat of bananas, where the soil was so saturated that it loosened the soil it was in, so it toppled over. Also, two of the plants were heavy with fruits.
I guess I should have shared this with everyone here before the arrival of Fay. Sorry.
Chironex
08-20-2008, 12:04 AM
To all in Fay's way, whether or not you are scathed, we all pray for your safety first and your bananas' safety second.
harveyc
08-20-2008, 01:43 AM
I'm in Rockledge/Cocoa (The Space Coast) area. It's coming STRAIGHT for us here!!! They say it'll be over our heads around 8pm tonight with 50 mile/hr winds and then it could even go back out on the water and possibly even come back in and hit us again!
My wife was born there but decided to skip the hurricanes and moved to California before she turned one!
So far, the news reports I've read online don't sound as bad as may have been feared. but I will keep you folks in my prayers and wish you well.
Harvey
jpfloors
08-20-2008, 05:24 AM
Thanks Scot and Harvey. Well we've been without power since 2am... I just went out an hour ago and hooked up my generator due to my fridge! At least my cable is still on! The storm is just sitting over our heads, barely moving... I love these storms, but that was before I had any 12 foot plants to worry about!!!! LOL Hmmmmmm, I think between the two evils... I'd pick hurricanes over earthquakes anyday, sorry Harvey :bananas_b But this also coming from someone that's seen two funnle clouds over head prior to touching down in N. AL (Close to you Ms. Kitty)! I hope it's not more than two days that we'll be wtihout power.
jpfloors
08-20-2008, 05:33 AM
So far, the news reports I've read online don't sound as bad as may have been feared.
Hmmmmm, I'd say it's just more a fact that Florida would be the most prepared state out of any for hurricanes and minor F1-F2 tornados. It also helps that maybe around 80-90% of homes here are block homes rather than framed. They're now starting to make the mistake of building homes and apartment complexes out of wood. We've had five tornados (so far that I know of) and what got demolished? Manufactured homes... Had all of this happened in LA, MS, AL, or maybe even the FL panhandle, I would probably say that it'd be a different situation with a lot more damage.
jpfloors
08-20-2008, 05:36 AM
Am I the only one in the FL Space Coast on here or Central Florida? Bananimal lives an hour S. of me... How are/were things down there in Pt. St. Lucy if you read this? Get much damage? Seems the tornados have all touched down directly in between us.
jpfloors
08-20-2008, 06:01 AM
Here's pictures of my fallen banana plant. It fell about 2-2.5' from the ground. Even though the bananas arn't near ripening, I may be able to use them as green cooking bananas... anyone think that might be a bad idea as they're not close to being ripe yet?
For those of you who will probably ask, yes, this is the contest one. I'll update that page sometime next week.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12535&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12535)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12534&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12534)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12533&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12533)
harveyc
08-20-2008, 11:13 AM
Ouch!
Josh, I based my "appears not as bad as feared" comment just based on news stories I could find online. Unless things get real bad, the news just hardly finds it worth to report on, I guess.
Also, as far as earthquakes, I have felt maybe 3 or 4 minor ones in my life and they were very short-lived periods of fun more than anything. It would certainly be a different matter if I lived in a part of the state where they were bad. Hurricanes don't discriminate as much and cover much wider areas.
Someone in another forum suggested that a well-engineered home could be more stable (or maybe he said just as stable) as a block home and that the best design was a dome-shaped hope, but that sure would be a challenge for square furniture and appliances!
Do you have a transfer box for your house to hook up your generator? I was without power for 36 hours this past January when we had a storm with 60mph winds and the mountains had heavy snow that brought down trees onto lines, etc. I have two generators and ended up hooking up refrigerators and one heater after 12 hours or so but that was a pain. I now have a transfer box, but haven't hooked it up yet. My neighbor is an electrical engineer and is going to be my supervisor when I hook it up. ;)
Be well,
Harvey
mskitty38583
08-20-2008, 11:35 AM
i hope all of yall in the path of fay are ok and doing well. will keep yall in my prayers.
island cassie
08-20-2008, 11:56 AM
Harvey - don't want to hijack this thread but we have a transfer box that switches between the mains power, inverter battery back-up and 12 kw generator - works like a dream.
Josh - so sorry about your plants!
Cassie
heynow
08-20-2008, 07:07 PM
Hey JP sorry about your plant hope fay gets on its way. I here it is just dumping up to 30 inches of rain. the plant on the lower right is a brazilian that got folded over after a tree limb fell on it. I proped it back up and put a splint on it. It started growing again and when the p-stem was strong enough I removed the splint. It seems to be doing alright but is a little stunted though. Maybe you could stand yours back up and splint it,worked on mine. Good luck Glenn
jpfloors
08-20-2008, 08:17 PM
Hehehe thanks Glenn, not sure about the terminology, but I already went out and assesed the damage, and was thinking the same thing. But I can clearely see the split from where the stem of the flower stalk (down at the split point) is broken from the remaining base of the plant.
Oh yes, it's dumping big time on us now. The eye was over us for a few hours and wind and rain subsided but now it's moved back into the ocean and the rain is coming I think harder than it was last night. At least our power got cut back on, but the generator is there just in case!!! Hope everyone else out there in this (or in the path of it) is safe! Hydrojeff, if you get this before it really starts to hit hard up your way in Orange City... HONKER DOWN!!!! This might only be a tropical storm, but it feels as though it's like Frances was 4 years ago!!!! I have a feeling though it's going right between us... I think it likes the space coast better LOL. Damn, I'm DEFINATELY planning on going to the treasure coast in a day or two to medal detect and see what might have been washed ashore from those spanish sunkin ships!!!!
Chironex
08-20-2008, 10:31 PM
So relieved that you only suffered minor damage and everyone is well. As for the contest, I would certainly surrender my voucher due to the circumstances. Wish I lived lived closer to assist in any way I could.
jpfloors
08-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Here's a picture of my front yard, driveway, and the road in front of my house. The house in the picture is my neighbores though. When I walked out into it.. it's about 16" deep!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=12599&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12599)
momoese
08-21-2008, 03:01 PM
Where is your row boat?
Taylor
08-21-2008, 03:57 PM
A Cocos nucifera in their front yard? How long will that last?
chong
08-21-2008, 04:24 PM
A Cocos nucifera in their front yard? How long will that last?
Probably 50 plus years. Coconut leaf structure is very well suited to withstand strong winds. The leaf petioles will get severed from the trunk before it can be uprooted. Unless the soil gives way, that is. But even if capsized, if enough roots are still in the ground, they will re-form new roots and grow in a leaning position. Similar to mango trees.
harveyc
08-21-2008, 06:08 PM
Maybe Taylor was referring to a new strain of yellowing disease which I read about recently.
Taylor
08-21-2008, 06:31 PM
That is quite a long time.
Do they get freezes in Cocoa Beach? I would think your climate would kill it after a few years...
chong
08-21-2008, 06:57 PM
That is quite a long time.
Do they get freezes in Cocoa Beach? I would think your climate would kill it after a few years...
Not normally, but they do get occasional frost some early mornings. Although quite a bit further south of Cocoa Beach, during several mornings in January, 2005, our hotel windows (Marriott in Del Ray Beach) had frost on them, while on top of car hoods there was a dusting of snow. The coconuts in the parking lots didn't even get blisters on their leaves. It was 31°F then. I imagine that near I-95 further inland, they may have been colder. But by the time I drove through I-95, around 8:00AM, I couldn't see any signs of frost or snow. So, I will surmise that they will survive a few hours of freezing temperature around them.
jpfloors
08-21-2008, 11:09 PM
Oh no, Cocoanuts grow VERY well here and are very popular. Also the other large tree you see in his front yard behind the trash can is a mango. We rarely get a hard freeze, Chong is right. It rarely gets below 30 here for more than a few hours at most. In fact I think that the Cocoa Nut tree is where Cocoa Beach gets it's name from... but even closer to me is the City of Cocoa (two different cities seperated by two rivers and an island, Merritt Island; about 10 miles of seperation).
Bananaman88
08-22-2008, 08:32 AM
Been keeping up with the weather in FL via the Weather Channel and CNN and still keeping all you guys and gals there in my prayers. Hope everyone is staying safe. This is one of the slowest moving storms I've ever seen. I feel for you.
harveyc
08-22-2008, 08:42 AM
Same here; seems crazy!
dablo93
08-22-2008, 10:15 AM
I hope it won't strengthen too much in the gulf of mexico.
dablo93
08-22-2008, 10:17 AM
btw, I've read that a mature cocos nucifera can survive 25 F in a warm climate and not for too long (with damage)
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