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saltydad
07-26-2008, 03:00 PM
My new Siam Ruby has been a very slow grower. It has 3 pups that were growing when I received the plant. Should they be removed and transplanted to allow the main plant to receive all nutrition and energy expenditure? If so, should this be done now, or when I have to dig and pot to bring inside this fall? Technical advice on the procedure also appreciated, as up to now all my nanas have overwintered outside.
Thanks...Howard

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2704756012_975bfd18e7_m.jpg

A closer view with pups:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/2703931565_9002512342_m.jpg

MediaHound
07-26-2008, 08:13 PM
If you remove them, the plant will make more. Siam Ruby pups profusely, actually.
Sever them, you will probably sever some roots as well. I say leave them alone.

MediaHound
07-26-2008, 08:13 PM
beautiful plant btw

natedogg1026
07-26-2008, 09:53 PM
I agree with Jarred. Leave em.

mskitty38583
07-26-2008, 09:54 PM
just a beautiful nana!

KeithThibodeaux
07-27-2008, 08:35 AM
Excuse me for tagging on to your thread, but we have a common interest. I just got my first Siam Ruby and am curious about cold-hardiness. Here in So. Louisiana we get 4 or 5 very light freezes a year, and maybe one night where we will get down as low as 26-27, but only for a few hours. I leave all of my other bananas in the ground and mulch the more tender ones. Most I do nothing with and they come back just fine.

So, I really don't feel like digging up this Siam Ruby. Swore that stuff off years ago, when I had turned winter into a major chore.

Who can tell me cold hardiness details on the Siam Ruby?

http://www.keiththibodeaux.com/images/June%202008/DSC03402_small.JPG

natedogg1026
07-27-2008, 02:06 PM
Sorry Keith, No one knows. That stuff is usually gained by trial and error, unfortunately no one is willing to chance it as the Siam is still the "new thing" in the nana world. Until then it's just a guess. Let us know if you decide to be the guinea pig but I bet it will die in your area. Reds are not usually hardy. No one knows about the fruit either but soon some of those lucky Florida growers (LOL )will tell us about it.

KeithThibodeaux
07-27-2008, 09:02 PM
Sorry Keith, No one knows. That stuff is usually gained by trial and error, unfortunately no one is willing to chance it as the Siam is still the "new thing" in the nana world. Until then it's just a guess. Let us know if you decide to be the guinea pig but I bet it will die in your area. Reds are not usually hardy. No one knows about the fruit either but soon some of those lucky Florida growers (LOL )will tell us about it.

I'll be a guinea pig for sure. There is nice sized pup that I will remove and pot up to keep safe for the winter. The big one will get the test in the ground in Zone 9a. - keith

natedogg1026
07-27-2008, 09:27 PM
You go Keith. Keep us posted. BTW, I retract some of what I said earlier. I read Salty dads zone (7) instead of yours. 9a, you got a good chance. I know I'm outta luck here in 6.

natedogg1026
07-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Salty, luv your teacups. This is my first year w/em. They're awesome.

saltydad
07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
I've had a blast researching and planting the pond and surrounding garden. I love Elephant Ears, and have about 10 varieties. Most will have to be potted up for the winter. I already fill my living room with the tropicals from the patio, so I'll have to dedicate a bedroom, I guess. Good thing my son lives in NY after graduation instead of here.:)

Chironex
07-28-2008, 12:17 AM
I also have a Siam Ruby from Brians Botanicals, but it is not nearly as red as yours above. What age is yours? Perhaps mine needs more time to develop the predominately red coloring.

mskitty38583
07-28-2008, 06:02 AM
I've had a blast researching and planting the pond and surrounding garden. I love Elephant Ears, and have about 10 varieties. Most will have to be potted up for the winter. I already fill my living room with the tropicals from the patio, so I'll have to dedicate a bedroom, I guess. Good thing my son lives in NY after graduation instead of here.:)

LOL! my den is dedicated to the preservation of nanas in the winter time. i moved my youngest into the smaller bedroom and now have a 10x12 room with gro lights, my aquarium(yes its finally clean) and all the shelves a grower could possibley want.( well maybe not cause i keep running out of room). i will be keeping my ee's outside to over winter with my nanas. saltdady i still love your pond! hey this winter can you take pics of it so we can see how it looks then?

Bananaman88
07-28-2008, 06:15 AM
I may leave one of mine in the ground to test this year as well. I have a mine are all still in one clump, but two of them are big enough that I could seperate one and bring it in to protect it. I feel like they'll make it in my area. We'll see!

sandy0225
07-28-2008, 07:05 AM
Siams are very slow growers from what I've seen, and pretty touchy about winter greenhouse conditions. They're not one that likes to be overwatered at 55 degrees, that's for sure! Not even once or twice. They're almost as hard as a namwah pearl in my opinion to overwinter.

saltydad
07-28-2008, 02:35 PM
I also have a Siam Ruby from Brians Botanicals, but it is not nearly as red as yours above. What age is yours? Perhaps mine needs more time to develop the predominately red coloring.

It came with this color, and had the pups also, which have red streaks in some, but not all of the leaves. I just got it in June. Good luck!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=11775&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11775&ppuser=1040&sl=s)

BTW Keith, beautiful nana!

saltydad
07-28-2008, 02:44 PM
LOL! my den is dedicated to the preservation of nanas in the winter time. i moved my youngest into the smaller bedroom and now have a 10x12 room with gro lights, my aquarium(yes its finally clean) and all the shelves a grower could possibley want.( well maybe not cause i keep running out of room). i will be keeping my ee's outside to over winter with my nanas. saltdady i still love your pond! hey this winter can you take pics of it so we can see how it looks then?

LMAO! We are nuts, aren't we? This was my living room over the winter. Amazingly, my large plumeria actually started blooming at the end of the winter while still inside, and is still blooming! Most everything else looked rather bedraggled, but perked right up and started growing with a vengeance when taken back outside.:bananabeard:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/1561686407_54b6121fa2.jpg?v=0

mskitty38583
07-28-2008, 04:02 PM
LMAO! We are nuts, aren't we? This was my living room over the winter. Amazingly, my large plumeria actually started blooming at the end of the winter while still inside, and is still blooming! Most everything else looked rather bedraggled, but perked right up and started growing with a vengeance when taken back outside.:bananabeard:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/1561686407_54b6121fa2.jpg?v=0

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=9026 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9023)http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=9023 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8588)
this is what it looked like from the doorway. sorry the pics are real brite. yes we do get a little odd in the winter time dont we? lol.