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JonesPumpHouse
07-26-2019, 05:36 PM
Well the title is pretty much my question. Are there any signs on the outer trunk of the PSeuDO Stem that gives the position of the true trunk and inflorescence?
thanks
Dwarf Ladyfinger
JonesPumpHouse
pitangadiego
07-26-2019, 06:23 PM
The best way to judge closeness to flowering is pseudostem height. If you culture is consistent, flowering will occur at virtually the same height every time. The only possible visible sign before the "flag leaf" appears is a possible swelling of the pseudostem at the base. The pseudostem becomes a bit convex (left) , rather than the concave (right).
http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP952-33.jpg
JonesPumpHouse
07-27-2019, 05:47 PM
Banana Gallery - DLF (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65022&size=big&cat=500&ppuser=30205)
Seven years they never had any fertilizer added to the soil. They never got over 3 to 4 , The pseudo- stem. never had a flower, for the obvious reasons .
Thanks for the info
JonesPumpHouse
07-27-2019, 06:03 PM
I tried five times to upload pictures of the soonest I am so screw it but thanks man
Spaceag07
07-27-2019, 07:31 PM
Make the pictures smaller. I find it helps to upload them to Imgur, resize them to 640 x 480, then try to upload here.
JonesPumpHouse
07-28-2019, 02:46 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65028&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65028&ppuser=30205)
DLF Pseudo-Stem
(hopefully this time)
JonesPumpHouse
07-28-2019, 02:55 AM
url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65029&limit=recent]http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65029&size=1[/url]
Pseudo-Stem base
JonesPumpHouse
07-28-2019, 02:59 AM
url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65030&limit=recent]http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65030&size=1[/url]
Pseudo-Stem base
JonesPumpHouse
07-28-2019, 03:10 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65026&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65026&limit=recent)
2019.07.28
The tinniest Musa,
Propagated complete with its own Roots
cincinnana
07-28-2019, 03:06 PM
Well the title is pretty much my question. Are there any signs on the outer trunk of the PSeuDO Stem that gives the position of the true trunk and inflorescence?
thanks
Dwarf Ladyfinger
JonesPumpHouse
Some times a choke looks just like a babybump.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/hostafarian/5SEmV2
JonesPumpHouse
07-29-2019, 07:31 AM
@cincinana
great link, great pics, Super info.
if that Nana was in Alabama Both the grower and the plant would be imprisoned:08:Both the grower and the plant would be imprisoned:08::08:
cincinnana
07-29-2019, 07:48 AM
@cincinana
great link, great pics, Super info.
if that Nana was in Alabama Both the grower and the plant would be imprisoned:08:Both the grower and the plant would be imprisoned:08::08:
LOL.
Those were Orinoco chokes and they were stinkers.
Don't report me to Plannned Bananahood:ha::ha:
PR-Giants
08-11-2019, 11:21 AM
what if any are signs of inflorescence moving up pseudo stem
Are there any signs on the outer trunk of the PSeuDO Stem that gives the position of the inflorescence?
No. For most of the journey through the pseudo stem the inflorescence is very small, it's about the diameter of a pencil and it is behind the preceding roller/cigar leaf which is approximately the same diameter. Because the peduncle near the inflorescence, the inflorescence, and the roller/cigar leaf preceding it are all approximately the same diameter it would be difficult to distinguish between them. If the inflorescence expands prematurely it will get stuck and a bulge will be become apparent but that's not relevant to your question because at that point it is no longer moving up the pseudo stem.
Here's a photo of a variegated Manini that we removed most of the outer leaf sheaths from so our members can get a better understanding of what actually happens during the journey up the pseudo stem.
The inflorescence is still above the point where the last white leaf sheath was removed.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65113 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65113)
The photos below are of a Maricongo inflorescence that got stuck about halfway up the pseudo stem and it is in the early stages of swelling. If it was left alone it would have eventually grew enough to split the pseudo stem and burst out of the side.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51200 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51200)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51201 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51201)
As the inflorescence gets closer to emerging, the new leaves emerging will also become shorter. It is very obvious in the photo below that leaf #5 is shorter than leaf #6 and that pattern continues on to the paddle/flag leaf #1.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51799 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51799)
JonesPumpHouse
08-12-2019, 02:37 PM
[url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65126&ppuser=30205][img]http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=
ThanksPR- Giants , super cool pics and information.
this is a bit off of the topic I have here, but if anyone can answer on this thread I would appreciate it and my inaugural career of throwing bananas for my season one. Not sure what kind of dysfunction this is on the distal and a leaf this picture is a top view. I don't know how to add another picture so I am going to half to make another post
and again these plants have been in the ground for seven or eight years this is the ninth year, they've never had a flower, never grew taller than about three or 4 foot because they were not fertilized. My goal is for a flower, This season but fruit would definitely be appreciated.
DLF
JonesPumpHouse
08-12-2019, 02:40 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65127&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65127&ppuser=30205)
Bottom of the leaf, or really part of the leaf, I remove the infected part and discarded it away from the plants .
DLF
Nicolas Naranja
08-12-2019, 05:41 PM
Some cultivars have strong apical dominance and will not put out suckers until it has made a flower. But, that is really only useful the first time around.
JonesPumpHouse
08-13-2019, 05:08 AM
Thanks a lot I appreciate that.
It is pretty crazy, what's up Muck City,I'm from P-Town too.
I was raised up at the airport, going out town to BG.
Again thanks
Nicolas Naranja
08-13-2019, 07:47 AM
It's a great place to grow bananas. I'm on E. Main, about 1/4 mile north of Larrimore, but the main farm is just south of Sand Cut.
Thanks a lot I appreciate that.
It is pretty crazy, what's up Muck City,I'm from P-Town too.
I was raised up at the airport, going out town to BG.
Again thanks
JonesPumpHouse
08-13-2019, 03:17 PM
Right on I grew up on 14th Terrace out by the airport, but my grandma had a house in Sandcut about 3 to 5 miles before the Lucky star there's like two houses on the right hand side the road I spent a Tonne time at the cane fields there.
I have two aunts & uncles that still live there..
i'm in Southeast Georgia now.
this winter I'm going to work up about 0.028 acres for about 60 bananas . I really enjoyed growing them there fun and trippy plant it'll take me a bit to propagate that many. going to put down some mulberry trees also . kind on the west side for like a windbreaker and plant some painted daisies around the bananas hopefully for like a natural insecticide
thanks Nick
Boys from the muck & we don't give a .....:0519:
JonesPumpHouse
09-29-2019, 06:45 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65384&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65384&ppuser=30205):
:woohoonaner::
JonesPumpHouse
10-01-2019, 05:46 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65386&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65386&ppuser=30205)
JonesPumpHouse
10-15-2019, 12:22 PM
First flowers on these plants that are 8 to 9 years old. They never got higher than 4 foot, so I used fertilizer and now I have hands on the inflorescence. The choke is crowning at 12 1/2 foot, some bracts I've come off due to some strong winds we recently had, obviously after the flower come out right. I think these are dwarf Brazilian, anyone give me a confirmation.
I only have three plants that have The chance to flower this season so I think in winter I'm gonna take tissue sample and get a cultured ID. no guessing then, super happy they flowered
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65420&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65420&limit=recent)
JonesPumpHouse
10-15-2019, 12:24 PM
The full Brazilian
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65421&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65421&limit=recent)
JonesPumpHouse
10-15-2019, 05:53 PM
I started taking care of these bananas plants about 2 to 3 months late, because I didn't have any thought of taking care of them until I started so it's really not late because I had never planned to take care of them.
MaybeThat's why first hands aren't very uniformed I don't know it's just my first season I enjoy doing it and I will be doing it next year for sure and over the winter and I still got three more trees the flower hopefully
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