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wolfebc
06-23-2008, 01:10 PM
Touchy touchy:lurk:

hydrojeff
06-23-2008, 01:13 PM
sorry i have the green only one but would love to try the others

mskitty38583
06-23-2008, 01:15 PM
i only have the green. but my fav gh has the varigated, which i so desperatly want. might have to go visit him on thursday.

hydrojeff
06-23-2008, 01:19 PM
Mskitty, how much do they want for one?

Gabe15
06-23-2008, 01:46 PM
I grew 'Aeae' fine in my house in the Colorado Rockies, very dry, 8,500ft in altitude, not tropical or humid at all (especially in the winter). I think there are a lot of factors to consider, humidity levels alone do not entirely affect the health of a plant. In my experience humidity is one of the less important things I worry about when trying to keep plants healthy because it can be difficult to control and can be offset with other things. Humidity mainly affects plants by slowing transpiration (creating a water potential in the air that is closer to the water potential in the leaves), this can be easily offset by giving extra water so as transpiration increases and water is lost in the plant, there is plenty more water to take its place and keep a proper water potential gradient. The water potential is the demand for water in areas in and around the plant, if there is low water levels in one of the areas, water will flow from areas with more water to those with less (this is what moves water from the soil, through plants, and into the air), and if it flows without being replaced, you will see wilting, burning and damage to the plant. One of the best ways to prevent them from burning is to not put them in the sun, they grow fine in shady spots as well, sometimes slower than a banana normally would, but they can stay healthy. Heat, light levels and air flow play an equally important role in keeping a healthy water potential, humidity levels alone are not that controlling.

And although I completely believe that you may have had less than good luck with variegated bananas, I don't think its the best policy on the forum to discourage other growers from trying out for themselves if they want to. I was laughed at and told I was lying when people herd I grew bananas, but anything is possible if you know what you're doing.

wolfebc
06-23-2008, 02:41 PM
yup, touchy.

Mark Hall
06-23-2008, 02:44 PM
I have to agree with Gabe on this one. I have Ae aes that I have been growing in the uk for about 4 years now and I have found they don't burn. OK they don't look as good as the ones you guys grow in the U,S but we don't get the nice weather you lot get.

As for the Yellow/ green ones, My variegated Basjoo burns in full sun yet the variegated Rajapuri is OK with the odd bit of damage. My variegared Sikki is fine in full sun too. I have a maurelii that has a small percentage of white in it but that turns black in full sun. Also a variegated Acuminata yellow/green that is fine in full sun too.

All very confusing at time bananas arn't they.

wolfebc
06-23-2008, 03:56 PM
:ha:[QUOTE=Mark Hall;41418]I have to agree with Gabe on this one. I have Ae aes that I have been growing in the uk for about 4 years now and I have found they don't burn. OK they don't look as good as the ones you guys grow in the U,S but we don't get the nice weather you lot get.

As for the Yellow/ green ones, My variegated Basjoo burns in full sun yet the variegated Rajapuri is OK with the odd bit of damage. My variegared Sikki is fine in full sun too. I have a maurelii that has a small percentage of white in it but that turns black in full sun. Also a variegated Acuminata yellow/green that is fine in full sun too.

All very confusing at time bananas arn't they.[/QU

yup

wolfebc
06-23-2008, 05:44 PM
Variegated plants all the way.

hydrojeff
06-23-2008, 06:24 PM
i live in florida and have a ae ae and my leafs still burn, i think its more the sun intensity than anything, its crazy hot here,and humid, and soil plays such a big roll in plant growing, every 100 miles it changes????

wolfebc
06-24-2008, 12:15 AM
i live in florida and have a ae ae and my leafs still burn, i think its more the sun intensity than anything, its crazy hot here,and humid, and soil plays such a big roll in plant growing, every 100 miles it changes????

OK

mskitty38583
06-24-2008, 08:44 AM
i know that if i put my white and green varigated ee's out in the sun....they get crispy real fast. i lost 3 leaves that way. even some light green colored plants will burn. i dont think its the humidity that causes this i think, its the uva's and uvb's that cause this either on humans or plants. jmo

just an after thought: someone needs to make spf95 for varigated plants: they would make a fortune.:bananarow::bananarow::bananarow:

wolfebc
06-24-2008, 09:30 AM
Before you buy a variegated banana, have a look at mine!

mskitty38583
06-24-2008, 09:39 AM
oh it is. its just that some of us are very new to the whole tropical growing conditions and special need of certian plants. i hope that you didnt think i was trying to be a smart !@#$. this is my first year with nanas and tropicals and info is something you can never have enough of. i am originally from florida and things there grow differently from things grown in tn. the comments i made were observations for the zone im in.

Mark Hall
06-24-2008, 10:49 AM
Silly me, I thought this was a forum to assist people to get the most out of their plants.


It is. But there are polite ways about doing it.

Bananaman88
06-24-2008, 11:23 AM
Wolfe,

As Mark said, yes, this is a website for people to learn and get the most out of their plants. However, everyone may not always agree with what is posted on here. No one is disputing the fact that lower humidity contributes to leaf burn, whether it is on variegated plants or normal green ones. I happen to think that it is a combination of things such as light intensity, overall humidity, etc. Please don't take offense when people have questions about what you are posting. That's how we all learn.

varig8
06-21-2011, 02:50 AM
Oh for crying out loud...............Did anyone ever think that maybe the white portions arent "burning out' from humidity or sun? That maybe, just maybe, its mostly due to LACK OF CHROROPHYLL in that portion of the leaf? These variegated portions are fully supported by the rest of the plant which does have chlorophyll. Its a normal expectation that these all white parts start to die off from the edges inwards. This not only happens in Musa, but in most other plants with large portions of this mutant tissue in its leaves, such as the Monstera mentioned earlier. Ive grown variegated plants for over 30 years now, under lots of different conditions>>and this always happens with leaves that have a disproportionate amount of white in them. If there isnt enough food produced by the rest of the normal green parts to support the load of white, guess what happens? ............it starts to die and turn brown....................duh....