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Akula
04-15-2019, 09:57 PM
After two years finally got a Patupi delivered! Yeah! I know a lot of people have had problems with this plant but I think it has potential in zone 9a so had to take a crack at it! Will get it potted up tomorrow.
I got this pup from Ty Taylor and it looks like it is in fine condition so no complaints on delivery. I might kill it but its not Ty's fault! Haha. Wrapped up well and delivered live with green leaves so no complaints. Plan to push this snowflake hard this year to get a flower by the fall and bananas eaten by November! Clock is ticking!!!!!!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64514&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64514)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64516&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64516)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64517&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64517)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64515&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64515)
NativeRoots
04-16-2019, 11:40 AM
Awesome! My Patupi is kicking butt right now. It’s growing well. Best of luck!
beam2050
04-16-2019, 12:28 PM
that's what I say, awesome. aint got one yet but I like your choice in pots. you can watch the roots GROW.
geissene
04-17-2019, 07:04 PM
Glad you found a nice pup and I'm sure it was reasonably priced!
Hope you have good luck with it.
Erik
Tytaylor77
04-19-2019, 01:11 AM
Awesome man! I’m glad the pup arrived ok! I’m so sorry the wait was so long! I know you will love it! Patupi is my all time favorite tasting Musa! I love them! Just be careful with watering until it is established.
Keep us updated Akula!
Everyone else! I am almost caught up! Give me 2 weeks and you will see lots of banana plants for sale and a newsletter listing them.
Akula
05-19-2019, 02:12 PM
After a month of growing under controlled conditions i.e. outside during the day and in the warm garage at night I planted my patupi out into the main banana patch.
He has five leaves of various sizes and a new cigar leaf emerging. Overnight temps are now over 70F so should be safe.
I will replant the patupi and some other new bananas into a new patch on the west side of my yard after I get my tomato harvest collected but for now I will squeeze them into the main patch.
Growth was slow until I started overnighting in my warmer than average west facing garage vs. inside the house in the living room. Probably 80F vs. 72F made a big difference! Patupi really are cold sensitive!!
Planted into the field today:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64606&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64606)
Hanging with the big boys!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64607&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64607)
geissene
05-19-2019, 07:56 PM
Very nice! Those big boys don't look like they want to share the sunlight! haha
HMelendez
05-19-2019, 08:52 PM
Congrats Donald!......
Patupi is looking awesome!.....It’s one of my fast growers!....You won’t have any problems either having extra or additional Patupi plants!....Patupi is a heavy pupper!....
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Akula
05-19-2019, 09:53 PM
Very nice! Those big boys don't look like they want to share the sunlight! haha
Thanks Geissene!
Those big ones are so tall that when the sun moves west past the 12 o'clock position it shoots under the canopy which is on the east side. Patupi should get pretty good sun from about 1 pm till 8 pm during the Spring and Summer months. Hopefully it will be enough sun but not too much for Goldilocks! Haha.
NativeRoots
05-19-2019, 09:58 PM
Very nice!
Akula
05-19-2019, 10:03 PM
Congrats Donald!......
Patupi is looking awesome!.....
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Thanks Hector!
The patupi started off a bit slow and I was worried but made some adjustments and he recovered quite well. Hope he makes a smooth transition to the patch. I've read that he is suppose to be a really fast grower so exciting to see how far along he will get this year and looking forward to collecting some pups to establish my east side banana patch.
Akula
05-19-2019, 10:22 PM
Very nice!
Thanks NativeRoots!
I checked out your thread about Patupi and figured mine was about the same size as yours which you had planted in the ground...kind of helped make the decision to get him off (outa) the pot! Haha.
cincinnana
05-20-2019, 06:32 AM
Hanging with the big boys!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64607&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64607)
A prince among kings.
NativeRoots
05-20-2019, 11:18 AM
Thanks NativeRoots!
I checked out your thread about Patupi and figured mine was about the same size as yours which you had planted in the ground...kind of helped make the decision to get him off (outa) the pot! Haha.
Awesome brotha! Very nice yard and plants. Looking forward to this one. :lurk:
Tytaylor77
05-23-2019, 02:59 AM
Looking good! It will be slow until it hits 4’ or so. Then they blast off like a rocket! I just planted 26 new ones this past 2 weeks! Up close to 50 total in the greenhouse now! They at the star of my 5 year research plan!
Good news Is 50x20 is about how many pups I will have this fall! Hahaha. They pup a lot! My 2nd greenhouse that is being built this year will be 100% PNG dwarfs. Mostly Patupi.
hdynad
05-23-2019, 06:01 AM
Patupi is making herself at home, looks like she fits right in!
Happy growing,
Darla
Akula
06-22-2019, 10:14 AM
June 22, 2019 Update:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64751&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64751)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64750&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64750)
beam2050
06-22-2019, 06:13 PM
quite a forest.
so do you have to rope those things all nice and straight like that or are in the military? see the yunguns are always out of line.
NativeRoots
06-23-2019, 10:36 AM
June 22, 2019 Update:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64751&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64751)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64750&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64750)
Very very nice bro! :lurk:
Akula
06-23-2019, 11:53 AM
Thanks Beam and Native Roots.
The young ones are always difficult at first until they are properly trained like any good puppy.
HMelendez
06-23-2019, 10:35 PM
Donald,
Patupi is looking awesome!.....I’m very happy that Patupi is growing nicely for you!....Awesome job buddy!....
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Mudturkle
06-24-2019, 12:12 AM
I'd like to see a picture of it!
HMelendez
06-24-2019, 11:02 AM
I'd like to see a picture of it!
Mudturkle,
Donald (Akula) posted update pictures of his Patupi in post #17 of the thread......
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64751&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64751)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64750&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64750)
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Akula
06-24-2019, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the assist Hector! Not sure why Mudturkle couldn't see the photos. Maybe his bandwidth was cutting out or somethingand dropped the photos.
Patupi is growing stong. Its putting out a leaf about every 5-6 days. Leaves are getting a lot bigger too. Pretty good growth rate for not being established. A sword sucker off a strong mother plant must shoot up a like a rocket. Probably keep all pups trimmed off until September in order to push maximum growth on this plant through the summer months.
Thanks for checking it out!
Mudturkle
06-24-2019, 04:31 PM
My bad, Akula. I was trying to reply to NativeRoots and ask him to post a picture of his Patupi because he got it from me. My Patupi has had a hard luck story. When I first got it I planted it at my house in 8B in a less-than-perfect spot. Then when winter was immenent I dug it up and potted it, placing it in my makeshift greenhouse (front porch closed in with plastic). Then I planted it at our place near Sargent TX (9B). And I sold him a pup from that. I think where I had it at Sargent was less than perfect also, because it hasn't fruited there yet either.
Tytaylor77
06-25-2019, 10:49 PM
Looking good! It will really start to grow fast when it hits 4-5’.
Great job man!
Sylviap
06-26-2019, 12:31 AM
Thanks for sharing you plants. They look awesome. Your place is awesome. The more i read the more varities of bananas i find to add to my wish list.
Akula
07-23-2019, 11:53 AM
One month update.
Patupi puts out a leaf a week on average. It doesn't appear to be particularly faster than my Namwa or other plants. At this point the pstem is up to 45 inches in height. Pstem is starting to get that "substantial" look to it. 12 leaves out plus a cigar leaf showing. So far no pups. A 5' mark can be seen on the Namwa pstem on the left as a reference. The plant looks good although I accidently damaged a leaf positioning a ladder to check the height of the Namwa a couple days ago.
This guy will need to turn the turbos on if I am to get a flower this year.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64981&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64981&ppuser=26197)
geissene
07-24-2019, 08:43 AM
Very cool! Mine hit the 20inch mark but is years from fruiting. It is doing similar growth speed as my other banana plants and it gets half as much water. The beautiful red pstem color seems to disappear if conditions aren't perfect.
Erik G
Akula
07-24-2019, 10:12 AM
Very cool! Mine hit the 20inch mark but is years from fruiting. It is doing similar growth speed as my other banana plants and it gets half as much water. The beautiful red pstem color seems to disappear if conditions aren't perfect.
Erik G
Thanks Erik.
I've noticed that the red pstem sorta comes and goes on mine also. At the moment the bottom 1/3 is pretty red but the upper 2/3 is primarily green except for a bit where the petioles join the pstem. I'll try to be more observant about the red color.
Mine is planted in a slightly raised bed so that might help with water drainage. I haven't fertilized or watered directly yet so he gets the run-off from the plants next to him (which are pretty close) that I do water deeply and fertilize plus whatever comes out of the sky.
Akula
08-25-2019, 09:44 AM
Update: 60 inches of pstem and no pups so far. Two monhts of good growth weather left in my zone.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65222&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65222&ppuser=26197)
Backyard Banana Joe
08-26-2019, 04:16 PM
I’ve heard that if you keep only 5-6 leavess per pstem, they grow faster than if you allowed all leaves to grow. Just thought I’d add my two cents worth. :ha:
Akula
08-26-2019, 05:16 PM
I’ve heard that if you keep only 5-6 leavess per pstem, they grow faster than if you allowed all leaves to grow. Just thought I’d add my two cents worth. :ha:
I've heard that too. We had a member who was aggressively trying that approach on his plantation in Thailand. As I recall his results were favorable. I'm mixed. Seems like the plant might produce bunches earlier but would be compromising bunch size. I might try that next year to see if it helps in my environment.
geissene
09-05-2019, 07:22 PM
Wow, you really had a good growing season. My patupi plant is about half the size but it was looking like Che Guevara with all the pups it had made. Most of my banana plants produce pups in mid to late August and this one is no exception. I have since spruced it up and here's what it looks like. I only hope it looks good next spring!!
Erik
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65277><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65277&size=1 border=0></a>
Akula
09-06-2019, 10:51 AM
Wow, you really had a good growing season. My patupi plant is about half the size but it was looking like Che Guevara with all the pups it had made. Most of my banana plants produce pups in mid to late August and this one is no exception. I have since spruced it up and here's what it looks like. I only hope it looks good next spring!!
Erik
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65277><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65277&size=1 border=0></a>
Thanks Erik.
Your Patupi is looking really good. Perfect leaves and a thick pstem base. The corm should be really mature and packed with growth potential for
next year!
My plant is the size that can produce pups so looking forward to something peeking out of the ground this month. No chance for bananas this year so I think I will let the pups grow until the plant is effected by the temps and then separate and pot up for indoor growth over the cold months. I will leave the main plant in the ground.
Akula
10-05-2019, 09:37 AM
Update: Patupi was up to 72 inches of height on September 28. A peeper finally broke through the soil. Averaging 12 inches of growth a month. The month of September has been unusually hot (min. 90F) and unusually dry (no precipitation). Plant has developed a lean trying to get to the sun from under the canopy. Looks about the same just a foot taller so no new pic.
HMelendez
10-07-2019, 04:31 AM
Update: Patupi was up to 72 inches of height on September 28. A peeper finally broke through the soil. Averaging 12 inches of growth a month. The month of September has been unusually hot (min. 90F) and unusually dry (no precipitation). Plant has developed a lean trying to get to the sun from under the canopy. Looks about the same just a foot taller so no new pic.
Donald,
Nice to see that your Musa Patupi keeps growing nicely!.....Mine also, keeps growing steady!.....It should be flowering soon!.....Please check the thread An Update Of My Latest Nana Plants 2019! - Page 14 - Bananas.org (http://www.bananas.org/showthread.php?p=327118#post327118)
I just did an Update!...…
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Akula
10-23-2019, 05:41 PM
Overnight lows are starting to hit the mid 50's so expecting the growth on this plant to hit the brakes. Its presntly at 84 inches or 7' of pstem although it doesn't look like it in the photo. I marked the 5' spot with a black marker line which can be seen when zoomed/expanded. Two pups.
I will pot up the pups soon and try to grow them over the winter shuttling them in and out of the house as temps allow.
Patupi on October 23, 2019
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65461&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65461)
cincinnana
10-24-2019, 06:46 PM
Overnight lows are starting to hit the mid 50's so expecting the growth on this plant to hit the brakes. Its presntly at 84 inches or 7' of pstem although it doesn't look like it in the photo. I marked the 5' spot with a black marker line which can be seen when zoomed/expanded. Two pups.
I will pot up the pups soon and try to grow them over the winter shuttling them in and out of the house as temps allow.
Patupi on October 23, 2019
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65461&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65461)
Looking fine...:08:
Akula
11-21-2019, 11:23 AM
My area had an early freeze the night of November 12th/13th with an overnight low of 29F. Banana plants did not like that! Patupi was protected a bit by the canopy and has a few leaves that are half green which is pretty good compared to my tall namwas that got destroyed.
The 2019 season is officially over for the Patupi which achieved a height of 87 inches without a flower during its first season. I have the main plant and two small pups. I haven't decided what to do with the pups...leave them in the field attached to the mother or separate, pot, and bring inside.
I will move the entire corn to a new spot that gets much better sun in the Spring and lay on the fertilizer heavy during the next growing season to get a maximum push of the plant.
Its up to Hector to get a flower on his Patupi and show the development of the bananas!
Thanks to all for watching this thread!
Patupi November 20, 2019:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65574&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65574)
beam2050
11-21-2019, 11:34 AM
29 degrees. holy cow manure batman.
well the 29 degrees might have knocked your namwas back abit but the namwas should be coming back with the weather were going to have for the next few weeks.
sorry about the loss on the namwa buches tho.
so goes the life of the farmer.
Akula
11-21-2019, 11:50 AM
Hey Beam!
The leaves on my namwas got completely toasted but I think the bunches made it through and are still alive or at least none of the bunches have turned black and its been eight days since the freeze. I plan to harvest Godzilla namwa's bunch this afternoon and will post up a photo.
beam2050
11-21-2019, 12:07 PM
looking forward to it.
2 winters ago I experienced 2 straight weeks of freeze. but my namwas did better with that than last year with 1 light freeze and a frost once a week from the middle of December. they were looking good until march, the ones 8 ft and better were putting out leaves then wam 2 light frosts and it pretty well much decimated everything. namwas still haven't come back very well from that.
Art_R
02-10-2020, 02:34 PM
Thanks Beam and Native Roots.
The young ones are always difficult at first until they are properly trained like any good puppy.
So did the patupi survive the rest of the winter?
Akula
02-10-2020, 07:40 PM
So did the patupi survive the rest of the winter?
Unfortunately no. It didn't survive the second wave of overnight freezes we had January 21 (29F) and 22 (32F). We had clear skies both nights and with the canopy burned off during the first freeze it was naked to the radiated cold/heat. I usually prepare an elaborate winterization program but I injured my back that week deadlifting and was laid up.
Backyard Banana Joe
02-10-2020, 08:23 PM
Unfortunately no. It didn't survive the second wave of overnight freezes we had January 21 (29F) and 22 (32F). We had clear skies both nights and with the canopy burned off during the first freeze it was naked to the radiated cold/heat. I usually prepare an elaborate winterization program but I injured my back that week deadlifting and was laid up.
So is the above-ground part of the plant dead, or the whole thing?
How's your back? :waving::2750::weightliftingnaner::0493:
Akula
02-10-2020, 11:35 PM
So is the above-ground part of the plant dead, or the whole thing?
How's your back? :waving::2750::weightliftingnaner::0493:
Too early to tell about the plant. Fingers crossed.
I was back in the gym squating, benching, etc. this week after buying a belt. No more beltless squats and deadlifts. No deadlifts yet.
Art_R
02-10-2020, 11:43 PM
Hope your back gets better. Keep us posted on the patupi.
geissene
02-13-2020, 08:25 PM
Sorry to hear about your back injury and potential plant loss. That stinks. I still have my patupi and its doing pretty well in my living room. Hopefully it will hang on till springtime....
Erik
Tytaylor77
02-13-2020, 11:17 PM
Take care of that back! The corm should be fine! Only allow 1 pup to grow and remove the rest all year. It should pup, flower, and fill before next winter. They make it most years here unless we get an early frost or something! Keep us updated!
HMelendez
02-15-2020, 07:22 AM
Donald,
Really sorry to hear about your back!....Hopefully you feel much better now!.....My Patupi got to a completely halt!....Even we got a mild winter in South Florida comparing to other years, she didn't liked the temp fluctuations!...
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Akula
03-15-2020, 10:37 AM
The original Patupi didn't make it. He got killed by the second low temp dip we had in January afer surviving the early November freeze. Thought he was going to make it. Dang it!!
The original is dead (can be seen between the pups when zoomed) but he sired two pups which made it through the winter to continue the saga. I dug up the entire corm and moved it to a better location after prepping the soil with six bags of black cow. This new Patupi Only Patch is in front of my large orange tree to protect it on the North side and it gets full sun from the South from 8 am till 5 pm.
I will wait a month to see which pup is the stronger then separate the weaker from the main corm. Planning to juice the Patupi to the maximum with fertilizer to push it hard. I figure I have a two month head start over the prior year, an established corm, and a better spot with less competition.
Patupi March 12, 2020
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65792&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65792)
Akula
04-16-2020, 07:17 PM
Update as of April 13, 2020. Patupi seems to be about four to six weeks ahead of last years development at this point.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65875&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65875)
Art_R
04-16-2020, 07:49 PM
Lookin' good!
smeash
04-17-2020, 09:33 AM
Any update on your patch Akula? Cant wait to see how it looks this year!
EDIT: To clarify, I mean your main patch of those huge namwah!
Akula
05-21-2020, 12:33 PM
Update as of May 19, 2020
Patupi is now 28" in height with 10 leaves plus a cigar. Much thicker in the pstem at this point in the year vs. last year. I separated the small pup on the left from the original corm and it sent into a decline with a lot of leaf damage. Now it has two new small leaves.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=66002&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=66002)
smeash
05-22-2020, 07:37 AM
Update as of May 19, 2020
Patupi is now 28" in height with 10 leaves plus a cigar. Much thicker in the pstem at this point in the year vs. last year. I separated the small pup on the left from the original corm and it sent into a decline with a lot of leaf damage. Now it has two new small leaves.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=66002&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=66002)
Looking good Akula.. hoping to see that patupi take off this year. BTW those pups you gave me never even wilted a leaf after transplant.. I think the two overcast/rainy days were just the ticket to get them acclimated! Thanks!
Art_R
05-22-2020, 10:18 AM
So far so good. Keep us updated !!!
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