View Full Version : Pisang Ceylon (formerly Pisang Klotek) for sale
Overgrown
09-18-2018, 03:30 PM
I have Pisang Ceylon banana plants for sale. I bought a single pup from forum member Momoese back in 2008 and now have a garden full of them in various states of bloom. This variety is considered one of the best tasting bananas in cultivation.
Pups ranging from 3ft to 8ft tall. Recently harvested. $40-60
Limited quantities. Pick up only.
Located in North Orange County, Southern California. 92835
Call or text if interested.
310-968-2605.
Botanical_Bryce
09-18-2018, 03:49 PM
It has been renamed? I heard some say it is exactly like Pisang ceylon and others say Misi luki. I sent someone an indian mysore, Klotek, and ceylon to compare all three
bananaT
09-18-2018, 06:05 PM
I'm pretty curious too. is klotek for sure a Ceylon?
Botanical_Bryce
09-18-2018, 06:20 PM
I'm pretty curious too. is klotek for sure a Ceylon?
I tend to think they are the same based on some simple logic. Ceylon means Sri Lanka and Pisang Klotek is from Sri Lanka. Only leads me to believe they would be the same. Being that they were tissue cultured it would leave room for subtle variations. I keep mine seperate for now.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ceylon
Overgrown
09-20-2018, 12:36 AM
If memory serves me correctly, Momoese and a few other members concluded that they were one in the same based on taste and aesthetics of the fruit.
Richard
09-20-2018, 01:29 AM
Pisang Ceylon and Pisang Klotek are both in the Mysore group. The former is also referred to as "Improved Mysore" while the latter is not.
If Momoese is the source then I'd believe the claim they are Mysore but nothing beyond that.
Also, I will agree that Mysore have an excellent flavor for my tastes -- but I'll disagree about them being the best, simply because there are so many different banana tastes (not to mention tastes of other fruits) I couldn't decide.
As for the price of $40-$60, that is ridiculous. I can understand members here paying shipping to obtain/trade varieties and perhaps some extra $$ for something hard to find, but not for Mysore which are occasionally offered at Home Depot in southern CA.
In fact, at present I have some Mysore pups that I'll be throwing away in a few weeks but if someone in SoCal wants them just send a PM and I'll pot them up until you are ready to pick them up. Be warned ... you will be challenged to a game of miniature golf on our course through the fruit trees!
Botanical_Bryce
09-20-2018, 07:48 AM
You can't say they are the same because they are Mysore. Mysores are not all the same. The varieties are very different. By ridiculous logic like that you might as well say there is only one type of Cavendish.
Richard
09-20-2018, 07:09 PM
La Verne Nursery is a large wholesale grower located about an hour's drive north of downtown Los Angeles -- depending on the time of day. La Verne is a major supplier of plants for Home Depot in California.
Here's the top portion of their webpage for what they call subtropicals showing some of the bananas they have under cultivation. BE ADVISED that the pictures were obtained by a graphic artist. In particular, I've marked the Namwah imposters but have good experience with the others.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63670&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63670&ppuser=1558)
meizzwang
09-25-2018, 01:25 PM
Pisang Ceylon and Pisang Klotek are both in the Mysore group. The former is also referred to as "Improved Mysore" while the latter is not.
If Momoese is the source then I'd believe the claim they are Mysore but nothing beyond that.
Also, I will agree that Mysore have an excellent flavor for my tastes -- but I'll disagree about them being the best, simply because there are so many different banana tastes (not to mention tastes of other fruits) I couldn't decide.
As for the price of $40-$60, that is ridiculous. I can understand members here paying shipping to obtain/trade varieties and perhaps some extra $$ for something hard to find, but not for Mysore which are occasionally offered at Home Depot in southern CA.
In fact, at present I have some Mysore pups that I'll be throwing away in a few weeks but if someone in SoCal wants them just send a PM and I'll pot them up until you are ready to pick them up. Be warned ... you will be challenged to a game of miniature golf on our course through the fruit trees!
Maybe for local pick up that's ridiculous, but for those who can't get this plant anywhere else, a healthy, large sword pup of an ID verified Pisang Ceylon at $40 seems reasonable to me. This plant is rarely offered anywhere, and we all know the big box stores/many commercial nurseries are notorious for mislabeling their banana plants. A novice might not know to check under the leaves to see if there's red anthocyanins.... Up here in Northern California, Pisang Ceylon doesn't pup very well until the Matt is very well established.
Richard
09-25-2018, 01:45 PM
Maybe for local pick up that's ridiculous, but for those who can't get this plant anywhere else, a healthy, large sword pup of an ID verified Pisang Ceylon at $40 seems reasonable to me. This plant is rarely offered anywhere, and we all know the big box stores/many commercial nurseries are notorious for mislabeling their banana plants. A novice might not know to check under the leaves to see if there's red anthocyanins.... Up here in Northern California, Pisang Ceylon doesn't pup very well until the Matt is very well established.
My Mysore is also slow to pup.
As discussed elsewhere, "Sword pup" and "water pup" are marketing terms. Either will develop into a fine plant if properly cared for.
I recall Momoese's plant. I believe he obtained it from a local nursery. In that case it would have been distributed by La Verne's (see previous post). I also recall the discussion and the consensus was Mysore and no agreement on Improved Mysore.
If you're having a difficult time finding a banana plant I'd recommend checking with TyTaylor and HMelendez -- the banana police!
meizzwang
09-25-2018, 03:22 PM
My Mysore is also slow to pup.
As discussed elsewhere, "Sword pup" and "water pup" are marketing terms. Either will develop into a fine plant if properly cared for.
I recall Momoese's plant. I believe he obtained it from a local nursery. In that case it would have been distributed by La Verne's (see previous post). I also recall the discussion and the consensus was Mysore and no agreement on Improved Mysore.
If you're having a difficult time finding a banana plant I'd recommend checking with TyTaylor and HMelendez -- the banana police!
FWIW, Sword pup implies a decently large sized corm, water sprout implies smaller starter plant. Ty mentioned he's building up his collection this year after a hard freeze from last winter, I did try to hit him up earlier this year and last year with no luck for some special varieties.
Richard
09-25-2018, 03:30 PM
FWIW, Sword pup implies a decently large sized corm, water sprout implies smaller starter plant.
LOL.
hdynad
09-25-2018, 05:00 PM
Hmmm a debate :) I have a Pisang Ceylon & a Mysore and they look destintivly different. Sources were Ty & Merce. The Pisang Ceylon leaves are more narrow and elongated, Mysore are big and fat leaves. Both are quite young and I'm sure will change as the grow.
Happy growing.
Darla
Botanical_Bryce
09-25-2018, 05:40 PM
I have Mysore from India and it is vastly different from Pisang Ceylon.
Botanical_Bryce
09-25-2018, 05:43 PM
Water suckers are suckers with wide adult type leaves. Sword suckers have narrow strip leaves that grow tall before widening. Pretty basic stuff. Richard argues the strangest things. Tried telling me Pisang Ceylon tops out at 7 feet once .
HMelendez
09-26-2018, 06:38 AM
FWIW, Sword pup implies a decently large sized corm, water sprout implies smaller starter plant. Ty mentioned he's building up his collection this year after a hard freeze from last winter, I did try to hit him up earlier this year and last year with no luck for some special varieties.
Nick,
In contrary, for me, Pisang Ceylon (Improved Mysore) is a heavy pupper!........Give Ty some time!.....My bro will come back with an awesome, impressive Nana collection next year for sure!.....:08:
Pictures from 09/12/2018 of my Pisang Ceylon mat! (not for sale at this time).......
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1865/44595313102_ca626948a2_h.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1876/42835344920_8145214668_h.jpg
:2723::bananarow::2723:
beam2050
09-26-2018, 07:47 AM
pisang Ceylon hector gave me last year is doing great despite not much rain. this is a month ago.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63732&size=1
bananas grow only so many pups. now that the world knows about him he will run out fast like going bananas. going bananas never has the ones I want either.
bananaT
09-26-2018, 09:38 AM
I have all 3. Ceylon, Mysore, and Klotek.
Ceylon and Klotek seem to be different, but Klotek and Mysore are looking Identical
so far.
That is info based on plant looks. We'll see about fruit next year.
momoese
10-19-2018, 06:35 PM
The Pisang Klotek pup I got was one of two that a guy brought it back from Sri Lanka, so he said anyway. He traveled the world to bring back strange plants/seeds etc. This was before heavy restrictions were in place. Ive seen the photos of the places/tribes he's visited and plants he's collected over the years. He had a small nursery on Fairfax in Hollywood where he was propagating and selling rare plants that he collected in the wild. He also sold some common variety stuff that could be found at any big box store. The other plant went to someone in the Hollywood Hills and I've lost contact that person so no idea if it survived or not.
It is my personal favorite of all the bananas I've grown. You can see the list in my profile.
That's about all I can contribute.
And yes I'm still growing PK, lots of it, as well as DB, FHIA 18, and Dwarf Namwah.
Mudturkle
10-20-2018, 12:41 AM
If you're having a difficult time finding a banana plant I'd recommend checking with TyTaylor and HMelendez -- the banana police!
Banana police! :) I like that. I've visited TyTaylor but not HMelendez - too far!
beam2050
10-20-2018, 05:02 AM
Banana police! :) I like that. I've visited TyTaylor but not HMelendez - too far!
I liked that too.
mam I need you banana identification...………. do you know how fast you were growing? :2790:
HMelendez
10-20-2018, 06:01 AM
I liked that too.
mam I need you banana identification...………. do you know how fast you were growing? :2790:
LMAO!......:ha:......Wooohooo!.....Master Beam did it again!....
:2723::bananarow::2723:
Tytaylor77
10-21-2018, 11:47 PM
Fast
Banana
Interceptors
Woooooohooooo!
Me and Hector added one or two new ones this year!
Richard
10-22-2018, 12:44 AM
Water suckers are suckers with wide adult type leaves. Sword suckers have narrow strip leaves that grow tall before widening. ...
Unless the plants are properly cultivated. I have zero water suckers. What's your cultivation problem?
Botanical_Bryce
10-22-2018, 01:35 AM
Unless the plants are properly cultivated. I have zero water suckers. What's your cultivation problem?
My cultivation problem is that I grow near 60 varieties and have near 500 plants. If you grew 500 and never saw a water sucker I would call you a liar. Besides that some varieties are far more prone to water sucker than others. You only grow a few undersized plants so I wouldn't expect you to have much experience.
Richard
10-22-2018, 02:04 AM
My cultivation problem is that I grow near 60 varieties and have near 500 plants. If you grew 500 and never saw a water sucker I would call you a liar.
Well then call me a liar, but be advised that several members here saw my nursery operation in its prime with thousands of plants. I'm guessing the difference is my plants enjoyed constant feeding from a fertigation system.
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