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mari@adams.net
08-18-2018, 09:16 PM
Can anyone identify this banana plant.IMG_8360
What am I doing wrong not to get the imagine to display.....I am going by instructions on how to post a picture.
edwmax
08-19-2018, 04:29 AM
No you are not. You have to place the Complete URL for that img between the tags. And the image MUST be hosted on a web server.
mari@adams.net
08-19-2018, 09:53 AM
These are the instructions I have followed: Right click on photo....Select Properties...then in Box that opens, you will see the url (location) of the image, ... drag your mouse across it to highlight it, then copy that link to your clipboard with another right click and select 'copy'...Come back here and type out your post, then click the little icon that looks like a mountain range with a sunset. ..That is a tool that helps post images....It's already copied to your clipboard....So 'Paste' it in there (or right click & select 'Paste'.... Not for sure what you are calling 'clipboard'. The picture is on my computer.
Your pictures may be to large, I make mine 1,000 to 15,00 pixels on the long side. Then they load up.
mari@adams.net
08-19-2018, 12:08 PM
The picture shows Dimensions of 3701x4934 and Size: 4.60MB. Don't know how that compares with pixels.
edwmax
08-19-2018, 02:38 PM
These are the instructions I have followed: Right click on photo....Select Properties...then in Box that opens, you will see the url (location) of the image, ... drag your mouse across it to highlight it, then copy that link to your clipboard with another right click and select 'copy'...Come back here and type out your post, then click the little icon that looks like a mountain range with a sunset. ..That is a tool that helps post images....It's already copied to your clipboard....So 'Paste' it in there (or right click & select 'Paste'.... Not for sure what you are calling 'clipboard'. The picture is on my computer.
You can test the URL on your computer before posting to the forum. Open a new page or Tab and paste into the URL line. If the image opens correctly, then make you post and past into the 'Insert Image' tool/button as instructed. The URL will start with 'http:/ ...........' and MUST end with img, jpg, jpeg, gif, bmp, or pnp.
The picture shows Dimensions of 3701x4934 and Size: 4.60MB. Don't know how that compares with pixels.
It's 3701 pixels x 4934 pixels, make 1500 pixels on the long side.
mari@adams.net
08-19-2018, 06:04 PM
So, do you think it is too large? Or should it post by this size. I'll call my server tonight and see if they can help me with this. Thanks for your help.
edwmax
08-19-2018, 07:25 PM
The picture shows Dimensions of 3701x4934 and Size: 4.60MB. Don't know how that compares with pixels.
It's 3701 pixels x 4934 pixels, make 1500 pixels on the long side.
4.60 mb is less then the 5.20 Mb limit. It's not too big! Although smaller img files will work just as good/better and increase your allowed storage limit as much as 3 times. ... The file size limit has to do this forum's upload function; not the image size displayed by the web browser or maximum file size allowed by other image hosting sites.
The URL in the img link above is NOT CORRECT. ... Right click on the image and then paste directly into a new post. Then I will show you the correct code again.
mari@adams.net
08-19-2018, 10:15 PM
Nothing you have suggested will allow me to do it. Even my server couldn't understand the instructions and get an image to post. I must have a mental block here trying to do this.
Richard
08-19-2018, 10:30 PM
How to post an image on Bananas.org
So here's what I do:
1. Click on "Photo Gallery" on the blue menu bar near the top of the page ... Immediately to the right of "User CP".
2. Ok, now you have 2 blue menu bars, the original and (below an advertisement) a second which on the far right says "Upload Photos". Click on that.
3. Now you're looking at a two-column layout. On the left, notice where it says "Select the photos you wish to upload from your computer". To the right of it, click on the highlighted button that says "Choose File". Select the file you want and then click on the "Open" button-- or whatever on your device. The file name should be displayed to the right of the "Choose File" button.
4. Down at the bottom of the two-column form you'll see a button that says "Upload / Submit". Click on it.
5. Now you are looking at a page with two large buttons that say "Process" in red letters. Click on one of them.
6. Finally you get to a page that shows you images you have successfully uploaded. Click on the image you want to include in your post.
7. Underneath the image you see 3 text fields, the 1st of which is labeled "Code for bulletin boards:". Click on the text in the box ONCE. Now copy it, either by right-click on a Microsoft Computer or whatever means you have on your device.
8. Now travel to the post you wish to use the image in, and paste that text into your post.
9999. Take a moment to appreciate that 20 years ago this was the latest and simplest way to post an image in a bulletin board!
mari@adams.net
08-19-2018, 11:05 PM
Richard: I got down to #4 and Upload/Submit which gave me a window that said the photo was successfully uploaded. But when I got to #5..that window did not appear...no large buttons that say "Process" in red letters. I got a "This category does not contain any images". …... I have supposedly 'successfully uploaded" the photo 3 different times, but don't find it........I sent the photo to myself through email and it came through okay. Know this site is different than email, but just wondered if possible to send the photo in any way.
Richard
08-19-2018, 11:27 PM
Richard: I got down to #4 and Upload/Submit which gave me a window that said the photo was successfully uploaded. But when I got to #5..that window did not appear...no large buttons that say "Process" in red letters....
Then in reality it was uploaded in name only. You need to shrink the size of your image. Are you using a desktop, laptop, smart phone (?) and what brand?
mari@adams.net
08-19-2018, 11:49 PM
I did shrink the size down from 4.60MB to 2.35MB and uploaded it. I am using a desktop Dell computer.
edwmax
08-20-2018, 02:53 AM
What is the image file name on your computer? I'm trying to verify that you have proper files names. Open the image; right click on the image; then click properties.
On the 'General' tab at/near the top is the file name and image type, what are these?
Sarah Brubacker
08-20-2018, 05:29 AM
I did shrink the size down from 4.60MB to 2.35MB and uploaded it. I am using a desktop Dell computer.
For the longest time I was not able to post pictures. But i am pretty sure your problem is that it's still to big, thats always what happened to me it woud say it up loaded it but wouldn't get my process button, since i don't know how to shrink pictures i crop them and it really lowers the pixels. I'd say try it again the exact way Richard wrote but make your image smaller.
One things I still have to figured out is how to make the image show up it just gives a link to my gallery.
Hope you can get it figured out.
edwmax
08-20-2018, 06:49 AM
For the longest time I was not able to post pictures. But i am pretty sure your problem is that it's still to big, thats always what happened to me it woud say it up loaded it but wouldn't get my process button, since i don't know how to shrink pictures i crop them and it really lowers the pixels. I'd say try it again the exact way Richard wrote but make your image smaller.
One things I still have to figured out is how to make the image show up it just gives a link to my gallery.
Hope you can get it figured out.
What picture viewing/editing program are you using to crop the pictures?
mari@adams.net
08-20-2018, 10:33 AM
What is the image file name on your computer? I'm trying to verify that you have proper files names. Open the image; right click on the image; then click properties.
On the 'General' tab at/near the top is the file name and image type, what are these?
The type of file is : JPG File (.JPG)
edwmax
08-20-2018, 10:40 AM
The type of file is : JPG File (.JPG)
What was the name of the file?
mari@adams.net
08-20-2018, 10:44 AM
What was the name of the file?
IMG_8360(3)
edwmax
08-20-2018, 10:51 AM
IMG_8360(3)
If that is the complete name, then the forum uploaded will give an error message that it doesn't recognize the file and wont upload the file.
The file name should be IMG_8360(3).jpg
edwmax
08-20-2018, 11:00 AM
Rename the image file to include the image type extension:.jpg; jpeg; gif; BMP; pnp
The type extension is a MUST for other paint & photo programs and the forum uploader to be able to correctly read the file format.
Richard
08-20-2018, 01:46 PM
I did shrink the size down from 4.60MB to 2.35MB and uploaded it. I am using a desktop Dell computer.
It's still too big.
In terms of length and width the largest dimension should be 720 or less.
Sarah Brubacker
08-20-2018, 02:10 PM
What picture viewing/editing program are you using to crop the pictures?
The app I have is called Gallery and I just crop them on that app.
edwmax
08-20-2018, 03:34 PM
The app I have is called Galley and I just crop them on that app.
So you are using a smart phone or tablet. The Gallery app on my phone (if it is the same) doesn't have resizing abilities. ...You need a photo or paint program on a tablet or PC to resize. Paint.net is free and very good.
edwmax
08-20-2018, 03:43 PM
The app I have is called Galley and I just crop them on that app.
I just did a search and found Photo & Picture Resizer on Google Play. It is free and works with Gallery. I think you only have to input height & width or may be only one, as it will maintain the aspect ratio. ... It looks to be very easy to use.
Richard
08-20-2018, 04:04 PM
I use ImageShrink on my Android phone.
Sarah Brubacker
08-20-2018, 05:07 PM
So you are using a smart phone or tablet. The Gallery app on my phone (if it is the same) doesn't have resizing abilities. ...You need a photo or paint program on a tablet or PC to resize. Paint.net is free and very good
I have a smart phone, don't know if its the same one? saw I had a mistake in spelling. I have to crop it smaller and it really lowers the pixels. Should check into that picture resizer. Would be nice to use the entire photo.
cincinnana
08-20-2018, 05:45 PM
Can anyone identify this banana plant.IMG_8360
What am I doing wrong not to get the imagine to display.....I am going by instructions on how to post a picture.
The forum member has allowed me to share the photo that will not upload because of file size issues.
Forum member also says the plant came from Hawaii.
Here are two of them.
Photo of the plant.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30296881378_0a221ee7ac_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
Mystery banana (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
. Photo of the flower.
Does it look like an Orinoco?
.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1864/44163696541_334cc3b254_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ahAukP)
Mystery flower (https://flic.kr/p/2ahAukP)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
edwmax
08-20-2018, 07:19 PM
It looks like Orinoco to me.
Did you resize the pictures? The top one is only 198kb.
edwmax
08-20-2018, 08:19 PM
This is what I just figured out with Mari's photo.
I resized to 2.4mb, it will not upload. No red 'Process' button; but states the image was successfully uploaded.
I resized to 2.06 Mb, it will not upload. No red 'Process' button; but states the image was successfully uploaded.
I resized to 1.99 Mb, IT UPLOADED! ... After clicking the 'Process' button' the picture was place into the Gallery.The forum's stated size limit is Wrong or has been down graded at some time without changing the instructions. The limit is about 2 Mb or 2,000 Kb.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63458&size=1
cincinnana
08-20-2018, 08:20 PM
It looks like Orinoco to me.
Did you resize the pictures? The top one is only 198kb.
What size is this one.. compared to a smaller one?
i have no idea??
Here we go
just curious.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30296881378_cd115041a6_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
Mystery banana (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30296881378_0a221ee7ac_m.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
Mystery banana (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
mari@adams.net
08-20-2018, 08:30 PM
I did find a window (right clicking on the photo) that has a 'Resize' to it. Can do S, M, L. I will post another thread (?) of a different plant that needs identifying tomorrow after taking a picture of it using the S (small).... I had two tags in it...one reads Dw Iholena and the other Musa Ensette. Both may be the same ? Hope to figure out this posting somehow. Thanks for all the help...couldn't have done it without you.
cincinnana
08-20-2018, 08:37 PM
I did find a window (right clicking on the photo) that has a 'Resize' to it. Can do S, M, L. I had two tags in it...one reads Dw Iholena and the other Musa Ensette. Both may be the same ? Thanks for all the help...couldn't have done it without you.
After you figure this all out ...treat yourself to something good.
Not an ensete..
From Hawaii a good chance a Iholena.
The West Coast fellas will set it straight.
edwmax
08-20-2018, 08:41 PM
@cincinnana
817Kb vs 29 Kb
cincinnana
08-20-2018, 08:51 PM
@cincinnana
817Kb vs 29 Kb
Flickr breaks them down pretty good then.
Thanks for the great information.
Forum members can use that as a possible example.
Thanks
mari@adams.net
08-20-2018, 08:58 PM
After you figure this all out ...treat yourself to something good.
Not an ensete..
From Hawaii a good chance a Iholena.
The West Coast fellas will set it straight.
The next picture I post (hopefully) will be a different type of banana plant that I have, not the one pictured above. It will be the one that had two different tags in it. The one pictured here (Orinoco?) was given to me by a friend that had a friend give it to her...kind of like a hand-me-down. It was said it was bought back (probably as a corm) from Hawaii. Whatever...all banana plants are beautiful and different in their own way.
edwmax
08-21-2018, 08:04 AM
Flickr breaks them down pretty good then.
Thanks for the great information.
Forum members can use that as a possible example.
Thanks
Many forums photo processor will resize a photo to their forum standard. This is to minimize their storage space on the hosting server and/or maximize the number of photos being stored in a limited space.
I believe the Bananas.org forum also does this. The 1.99 Mb photo I uploaded was resizes to 97 Kb in the Gallery. Thus, I see no reason for the upload limit on the photo size. ... I don't use this forum's Gallery so I had to make test uploads to find the limitations.
cincinnana
08-22-2018, 07:09 PM
The forum member has allowed me to share the photo that will not upload because of file size issues.
Forum member also says the plant came from Hawaii.
Here are two of them.
Photo of the plant.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30296881378_0a221ee7ac_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
Mystery banana (https://flic.kr/p/NaeriL)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
. Photo of the flower.
Does it look like an Orinoco?
.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1864/44163696541_334cc3b254_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ahAukP)
Mystery flower (https://flic.kr/p/2ahAukP)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
Bump....what kind of banana plant is this:)
edwmax
08-22-2018, 09:10 PM
Still looks like an Orinoco to me with the sliverish powder on the back of the leaves and the outside of the bud. ... Another picture or 2 of the fingers to verify their shape would help.
mari@adams.net
08-22-2018, 10:24 PM
This is another picture of the banana plant. Sorry for the double picture, still trying to figure this out.
Richard
08-23-2018, 01:17 AM
This is another picture
Nice!
Those fruits are 3-sided or 4-sided, counting the ribs?
edwmax
08-23-2018, 04:05 AM
The finer do appear to have 3 ribs ( 3 sided) and divided at the ribs.
It is Orinoco
mari@adams.net
08-23-2018, 09:02 AM
Thanks to everyone for helping identify this plant...I can now put a name to it. And thanks for helping me post this. I will continue to work on resizing and posting that your help has encouraged me to.
mari@adams.net
08-24-2018, 11:06 PM
I have a question about whether to dig and bring in the cold hardy (Basjoo) plant or mulch and leave it out for winter. If I cut the stem down to a foot or two, do I take the chance of cutting off the bloom that hasn't developed yet? None of the Basjoos have flowered...this is the 2nd year for them. If I decide to dig them and bring them in, do I leave the pups attached to the mother stem or separate them from her at the time of digging. I have other non-hardy nana plants that have pups. I don't have a choice but dig them, so do I leave them all in a clump or separate them from mother plant.
mari@adams.net
09-02-2018, 10:39 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_8521.JPG It seems I have a leaf within a leaf. Does this look strange to anyone else?
Richard
09-02-2018, 11:00 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_8521.JPG It seems I have a leaf within a leaf. Does this look strange to anyone else?
Looks normal to me.
mari@adams.net
09-02-2018, 11:02 PM
The other leaves seemed to come out of the center top of the plant. Guess I haven't paid that much attention to where the leaves come out, but usually is the center.
Richard
09-03-2018, 12:12 AM
The other leaves seemed to come out of the center top of the plant. Guess I haven't paid that much attention to where the leaves come out, but usually is the center.
Yes.
edwmax
09-03-2018, 06:49 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_8521.JPG It seems I have a leaf within a leaf. Does this look strange to anyone else?
No it isn't. All new leaves grow from the center of the pstem pushing the older leaves & sheaf's to the outside. ... This happen on plants with closed canals. The cigar leaf will pull out.
Richard
09-04-2018, 08:58 PM
t seems I have a leaf within a leaf.
Here's the same phenomena on my Gros Michael ...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63559&size=1
mari@adams.net
09-04-2018, 10:45 PM
The cigar leaf did pull out of the previous leaf the next day.....all of my plants are putting out a new leaf now before the previous one is very big. More so now than earlier in the season. Beautiful picture you have there.
Richard
09-13-2018, 12:56 AM
Is this a Dwarf Iholena? There was 2 tags with this..."Dwarf Iholena" and "Musa Ensete".
It is not Ensete. If it is Dwarf Iholena, then temperatures below 60F might stunt it for several months.
mari@adams.net
09-13-2018, 09:04 AM
Thanks for your reply, I thought it was Iholena but the two tags confused me. I think I read that it doesn't have pups. Do you have to divide the corm to get more? Our nighttime temps will be going into the low 50's in a week. Should I bring this inside for the winter now? Two months ago when I bought this, it was in a 4" pot so has grown a lot since then. Is it a plantain? Banana plants are very uncommon in my area so have to rely on web sites for info. This forum has been a great help for information.
Richard
09-13-2018, 12:58 PM
Yes, it's time to bring it inside. I'm not an expert on indoor banana care but several members on this site can help you. In fact there are threads on the topic.
Also, I have observed Iholena growing in the San Diego area and it does pup.
mari@adams.net
09-13-2018, 01:30 PM
This will go in my basement in it's pot where there is a couple of small windows for some light and I have overhead shop lights. I had some in the basement last year and they kind of went dormant, did no growth until spring. Watered them sparingly. It will be the first one I put in there, but does it make any difference if I want them to go dormant as to when I bring it in? I won't be able to put them back out next spring until April or May. Glad to hear they will have pups as I love watching the new leaf come out with its' pretty mauve color. Thanks for the info.
geissene
09-13-2018, 07:42 PM
Hi Mari
I have noticed that in my area of Pennsylvania, my nana plants practically stop growing by October. Overnight lows are usually in the 40s by this time. I usually wait a few more weeks and then I dig them up for dormant storage. I never had an issue but I usually have some cold damage on the stems/leaves before I get around to digging them up.
Erik
mari@adams.net
09-21-2018, 02:19 PM
Since the plants stop growing when temps get 50*, does that mean that when the days are approx. in the 60's& 70's daytime they will still grow, and the nights 50* or below, they stop growing at night? When the temp hits 50*, does all growth stop?
Richard
09-21-2018, 05:30 PM
Since the plants stop growing when temps get 50*, does that mean that when the days are approx. in the 60's& 70's daytime they will still grow, and the nights 50* or below, they stop growing at night? When the temp hits 50*, does all growth stop?
When most fruiting bananas experience sustained (6+ hours) of temperatures in the lower 50's (F) they go into shock that can take days to recover. When they experience sustained temperatures in the lower 40's it can take months to recover -- as it does at my location.
mari@adams.net
09-21-2018, 07:02 PM
So even though the days might get into the 70*'s, the plants don't respond to the 70's temp? I don't intend for them to be out when the temps are in the 40's-50's as I don't want to be, but this week our temps are in the 70's and nighttime temps in the low 50's and maybe high 40's. I will get the nonhardy ones in before the day temps get very cold, but I have some hardy ones (Musa Basjoo) that are too big to bring in so want to try and leave them out (mulched) this year. I have potted backups if I lose the outside ones. I think I wait (the outside ones) till a frost nips their leaves before mulching? The inside ones will go mostly dormant this winter in the basement as they did last winter. I'm in Illinois and our first risk of frost is Oct. 20 and almost certainly by Nov. 5. So, hopefully, I have a month before frost on the hardy ones.
Richard
09-22-2018, 01:33 AM
Wishful thinking.
mari@adams.net
09-22-2018, 09:23 AM
I saw a video of someone preparing plants for winter and they used a 'sheath' cloth on the ground around the plants before putting in the mulch. I assume it is to keep that area of the ground as dry as possible after mulching. What is a 'sheath' cloth?..........Would that be some kind of plastic?.......Such as a plastic tarp?........
mari@adams.net
10-01-2018, 09:22 PM
Can anyone tell me what kind of banana plant these small bananas come from? I found them at a local Walmart store with a sticker that had Dole Guatemala Baby #4234 on it. They are about 3 1/2" long with a custard taste.[url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?
Richard
10-01-2018, 10:02 PM
Can anyone tell me what kind of banana plant these small bananas come from? I found them at a local Walmart store with a sticker that had Dole Guatemala Baby #4234 on it. They are about 3 1/2" long with a custard taste.[url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?
"Baby" is a produce grade of banana, not a specific cultivar. Even if you were to narrow it down to a cultivar, there is no guarantee you could grow it in your climate.
Good to know that you like the custard texture and taste. There are Musas you can grow to give you the same satisfaction. Check with the usual suspects (TyTaylor, HMelendez, ...) to find out.
mari@adams.net
10-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Thanks for your reply...I do like the custard texture. I wonder if they would be good to grill as I do plantains. Like to grill plantains then put a little bit of brown sugar/vinegar/butter glaze on them just before taking off the grill. I have seen these little bananas in my area, but not very often. They are a treat when I find them.
mari@adams.net
10-03-2018, 10:35 PM
Our temperatures here will be in the 70-80's (lows to 50) for another 10 days then will dip to the 60's with possible lows to 30's. Do I wait until a frost knocks down the leaves of the Musa Basjoos before starting to cut back and mulch the plants? I have read a lot of the posts in the "hardy plants" section, but this is the first year I have attempted to leave any of the plants in the ground for the winter. Any suggestions on overwintering the plants outside will greatly help. Can you cut back and mulch these plants too soon?
Richard
10-03-2018, 11:00 PM
... Can you cut back and mulch these plants too soon?
Months too soon, yes. A couple weeks, no.
mari@adams.net
10-04-2018, 09:20 AM
Thanks for your reply.....Hummm, so I need to wait until it is 'really cold' before mulching, etc. I have 4 non-hardy ones to dig and quite a few potted non-hardy to bring in before winter. Should I start removing some of the leaves now or wait until time to bring them in. Is Neem oil okay to spray the stem and leaves? When do I stop fertilizing and watering.
Richard
10-04-2018, 12:04 PM
I'd do it all now instead of risk an early frost.
mari@adams.net
10-06-2018, 02:01 PM
Is the bunching at the top a problem with this Dwarf Cavendish plant? Does it need fertilizing to make the leaves grow up and out? It is time to bring it in here so haven't been fertilizing.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63858&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63858&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
10-07-2018, 06:46 PM
I am starting to dig up non-hardy (dwarf cavendish) plants for storage in the basement in pots with potting soil over the roots. One has a large pup attached to mother. What are the pros & cons of keeping pup attached to mother. This is heavy so would be easier for me to handle to separate, but want to do what's best for mother & child.
Great looking plants..
There are so many great opinions just pick and chose what works for you.
For me, I just use a large sharp knife to separate the two and then repot the plants next spring.
This way you have two separate plants in the same container .
Also, I never wash the soil off my plants before I transplant or repot .
A plant does much better and recovers quicker when the roots are not disturbed.
mari@adams.net
10-07-2018, 07:37 PM
I didn't really put enough soil in the pot to call it 'repotting'. Should I go ahead and repot these now with more soil? I just added enough soil to cover the corm and root. They will get some light from a window and overhead lighting but not all the time.
cincinnana
10-08-2018, 02:54 AM
I didn't really put enough soil in the pot to call it 'repotting'. Should I go ahead and repot these now with more soil? I just added enough soil to cover the corm and root. They will get some light from a window and overhead lighting but not all the time.
Stick with your original plan it's a good one.
Many forum members do the same thing(store bare root) for the winter with good predictable results.
I forgot your plants were in the ground and not in pots.
Pots can get kinda heavy too.
mari@adams.net
10-08-2018, 08:24 AM
That's why I put some of them in the ground this year ..cause the pots were too heavy for me to handle, but now that they have grown larger, just the corm/stem is very heavy without pot and dirt. One person here that has plants, pulls hers up and stores them bare root lying down on her basement floor. But she lost a lot of hers last year because they rotted. I do have some more in pots but they are going to be a challenge to get in because of weight. I envy everyone that can leave their plants out for winter, but that is the problem with people trying to grow plants out of their zone.
mari@adams.net
10-08-2018, 05:28 PM
I've decided to go ahead and pot up the non-hardy banana plants that I have dug up to be in the basement till next spring. Do I cut most of the roots off the corm or leave them on before potting. They have lots of roots.
geissene
10-08-2018, 06:02 PM
What is your basement temperature now? Hopefully it is cooling down or your plants may keep growing....
cincinnana
10-08-2018, 07:30 PM
When do I mulch the Musa Basjoos for winter? Have read, read, read posts and still not for sure. Our weather here for a couple days will be in high 80's/60low, then Thurs. turns cold...Friday morning 38*. We have had a LOT of rain so know the ground is very wet. If mulch this weekend, will they rot with ground being so wet. Our highs are going in the 50-60 soon, lows 30's-40. We are up/down in temps. More rain forecasted. No leaves fallen yet for mulch, but can get straw. The Basjoos are on the left (2) and Dwarf Cavendish one on right. Caven. to be dug later today.
Any advice greatly appreciated. Do I wait for a light freeze? Frost?http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63885&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63885&ppuser=27877)
You can mulch them now while they are in the yard.
It does not have to be cold or freezing just get the mulch in place while you have some free time.
Let the weather determine (a few hard freezes) when you cut the plant.
However it is educational to watch what the cold weather does to them.
Use as much mulch as you want, which is on sale at the big box stores.
Usually it is on end of season sale.
I use free wood chips from a tree service and pile 8-12 inches around the plant.
The commercial garden in some of the photos use generic black mulch for looks.
When spring rolls around your plants will pop right up through the mulch even if it thick
You mentioned straw...looks like 2 bales will cover an 8x8 area.
Leave the mulch in place in the spring it will improve the soil structure.
Mulch looks more as aesthetically pleasing since your plants are in the front landscape though.
Here are some photos of some I care for.
Some are cut and some are left to the elements.
Your plants will not rot if they are in a well draining area such as the gradual slope yours are on.
A tarp is generally not needed to cover them however some forum members use tarps.
Once you get a few seasons under your belt you will get the hang of it and do what is easiest to do.
Basjoo mulching (https://www.flickr.com/gp/hostafarian/306ZG3)
Spring growth (https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXrfhhh)
Summer growth (https://flic.kr/s/aHskkER8ZQ)
cincinnana
10-08-2018, 07:37 PM
I've decided to go ahead and pot up the non-hardy banana plants that I have dug up to be in the basement till next spring. Do I cut most of the roots off the corm or leave them on before potting. They have lots of roots.
Get as many roots as you can and try NOT to disturb the rootball too much.
You could dig around the plant and lift soil ball and roots and place in a big container and backfill with a good soilless mix.
There are a few good Youtube videos which give DYI advice.
Get some good roots in that rootball.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1775/29971203898_83ecc6c20c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MEsfJN)
Repotting bordelons (https://flic.kr/p/MEsfJN)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
mari@adams.net
10-08-2018, 08:51 PM
What is your basement temperature now? Hopefully it is cooling down or your plants may keep growing....
I have some heat (haven't used it yet) in the basement when it gets cold, probably stays around 60 or so in winter. It's comfortable for me to be down there. I'm sure they will grow a little as I use the lights where they are a lot. I would like to get them to bloom next year, if they continue growing a little this winter will that help them to get to bloom next year faster?
mari@adams.net
10-08-2018, 09:01 PM
You can mulch them now while they are in the yard.
It does not have to be cold or freezing just get the mulch in place while you have some free time.
Let the weather determine (a few hard freezes) when you cut the plant.
However it is educational to watch what the cold weather does to them.
Use as much mulch as you want, which is on sale at the big box stores.
Usually it is on end of season sale.
I use free wood chips from a tree service and pile 8-12 inches around the plant.
The commercial garden in some of the photos use generic black mulch for looks.
When spring rolls around your plants will pop right up through the mulch even if it thick
You mentioned straw...looks like 2 bales will cover an 8x8 area.
Leave the mulch in place in the spring it will improve the soil structure.
Mulch looks more as aesthetically pleasing since your plants are in the front landscape though.
Here are some photos of some I care for.
Some are cut and some are left to the elements.
Your plants will not rot if they are in a well draining area such as the gradual slope yours are on.
A tarp is generally not needed to cover them however some forum members use tarps.
Once you get a few seasons under your belt you will get the hang of it and do what is easiest to do.
Basjoo mulching (https://www.flickr.com/gp/hostafarian/306ZG3)
Spring growth (https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXrfhhh)
Summer growth (https://flic.kr/s/aHskkER8ZQ)
Thanks for all the valuable information and pictures of the beautiful banana plants. Are most of these Basjoos? Are they in Ohio? I must be overthinking the mulching as all I have read about mulching these plants in my zone has said to mulch very heavily. Thanks for the suggestion to go ahead and mulch now....I can add more later. Bought 2 large bales of straw today at Walmart ($5.50 a bale). Our leaves haven't started falling yet. Very educational pictures that you have.
geissene
10-09-2018, 08:25 AM
Mari,
With such low heat and with modest indoor lights, you can sustain the plants and have them create maybe 2 new leaves a month. The new leaves get smaller and less wide the longer they are inside. My larger plants always look healthy going indoors but they look smaller and less healthy come spring.
I personally dig up my edible bananas when the over night low temp is predicted to be in the upper 30s. This is when I start to see signs of leaf damage. For my basjoo, I let them grow until first frost and then cut and cover with mulch.
Good luck!
Erik
mari@adams.net
10-09-2018, 09:26 AM
My thinking is (which may be wrong) that since (what I have read) it takes 10-15 months to get produce a bloom, if I keep the plants growing some through the winter, I would be that much closer to a bloom next season. Thanks for the information. The banana plant is one that most northerners don't have much knowledge of, and I am an example of that.
geissene
10-09-2018, 10:01 AM
That is 10 to 15 months in the tropics for a bloom. Plus at least 40 more days bloom to harvest in the best case (upwards 6 months). The plants need to produce around 35 leaves before they bloom. This may take several years. The timing needs to be perfect for us northern people to get a bloom in early summer so the plant has enough healthy leaves to have a chance at mature fruit.
Don't be discouraged by that. There are ways to improve growing conditions like using a greenhouse, proper fertilizer, soil warming. Bananas pup also so I wouldn't put all hope in just one or two plants.
Enjoy and hope for the best!
mari@adams.net
10-09-2018, 10:45 AM
Thanks for your experience....these are in their 2nd year and have (6 months of it) always have a new leaf coming, I would guess put off a couple or more a week. Sometimes when I see one leaf unfurling, there is another one emerging with it. Maybe next year. The basement room where these will be isn't cold through the winter and has overhead lighting that I could leave on all day. I'll just have to see how it goes. I haven't fertilized much since I knew they were coming in, so guess I need to start adding some.
cincinnana
10-09-2018, 07:35 PM
My thinking is (which may be wrong) that since (what I have read) it takes 10-15 months to get produce a bloom, if I keep the plants growing some through the winter, I would be that much closer to a bloom next season. Thanks for the information. The banana plant is one that most northerners don't have much knowledge of, and I am an example of that.
NOPE......your not.
Zone 5-6-7- are zone pushing fools....ME..:08:
Blooms....a snowballs in hell.:woohoonaner:
I grow plants for the foliage and if a plant flowers it is a bonus for me in my zone.
I do not grow for flowers or fruit just that awesome foiliage.....just to let you know.
cincinnana
10-10-2018, 12:48 AM
Since the plants stop growing when temps get 50*, does that mean that when the days are approx. in the 60's& 70's daytime they will still grow, and the nights 50* or below, they stop growing at night? When the temp hits 50*, does all growth stop?
Basjoos will keep pushing leaves to the bitter end.
Note the distinct brown line of the last good hard freeze.
Photo taken mid December
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/671/23413831250_f30a4b8d37_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BF11iG)
Push growth (https://flic.kr/p/BF11iG) by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hostafarian/),
on Flickr
mari@adams.net
10-10-2018, 08:42 AM
Thanks, Cincinnanna, for pointing that out, I hadn't noticed it before looking at the pictures.....I think they have a 'will to survive'. They are very interesting plants.
mari@adams.net
10-10-2018, 08:21 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63913&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63913&ppuser=27877)
Did I cut into the bloom on this d. cavendish when I cut back the stem? The other d. cavendish's had a push of green leaf when I cut them back. This one is pushing white. I did cut this one back further than the others as it was taller. Is this normal to be white after cutting back?
geissene
10-11-2018, 07:29 PM
I think this could be normal with growth close to the corm. I've seen it on smaller plants. It takes time for the growth to turn green.
mari@adams.net
10-11-2018, 09:53 PM
I guess this is normal as the others that I have cut back are doing the same thing.
mari@adams.net
10-12-2018, 07:35 PM
So far, my basjoos have not gotten a frost on them...we're having 30's-40's at night. Just chances of patchy frost now. Next Monday, night temp to get to a low of 32* with frost. Should I cut back and mulch them now or wait until after Monday for the frost?
mari@adams.net
10-12-2018, 10:31 PM
Repotted Dwarf Cavendish, Iholena, small Musa Basjoos and Orinoco plants cut back for winter storage in the basement.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63936&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63936&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
10-14-2018, 02:36 PM
I had quite a bit of a white mold/fungus on some of the top part of the mulch around the banana plants. Is this 'stuff' harmful to the roots or the plant itself? If it is, how do you avoid it?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63944&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63944&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
10-14-2018, 03:41 PM
[QUOTE=mari@adams.net;319475]I had quite a bit of a white mold/fungus on some of the top part of the mulch around the banana plants. Is this 'stuff' harmful to the roots or the plant itself? If it is, how do you avoid it?
For me it is normal for new or moist store bought and fresh wood chips/ mulch.
It will disappear once the environmental conditions change such as temperature and moisture
It could even give you a yellow vomit look and that is still ok.
Now if you see that between your toenails.....yep.... cause for concern.
Mulch is kinda like the cold cut baloney you never know what is in it.
The same goes for store bought bagged "garden soil"
Your plants are looking good
mari@adams.net
10-14-2018, 05:39 PM
Our temps Monday morning is supposed to be 32* so went ahead (haven't had a frost yet to cut back) and did some mulching today. There's 2 bales of straw on this (I left the sections of the bale packed) plus some pine mulch from a tree that I have. Will add lots more of pine mulch and more straw if need be. Our leaves here haven't turned or fallen yet and I will eventually have a lot of leaves to add to this. Not for sure if I will do any 'boxing' on the stems when cut back. Any suggestions appreciated as I haven't left any plants out through the winter. These are Basjoos.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63954&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63954&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
10-15-2018, 07:42 AM
[QUOTE=mari@adams.net;319480]Our temps Monday morning is supposed to be 32* so went ahead (haven't had a frost yet to cut back) and did some mulching today. There's 2 bales of straw on this (I left the sections of the bale packed) plus some pine mulch from a tree that I have. Will add lots more of pine mulch and more straw if need be. Our leaves here haven't turned or fallen yet and I will eventually have a lot of leaves to add to this. Not for sure if I will do any 'boxing' on the stems when cut back. Any suggestions appreciated as I haven't left any plants out through the winter. These are Basjoos.
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Looking good.
Great front yard space.
mari@adams.net
10-16-2018, 10:25 AM
Evidently we had a freeze last night cause the Basjoos have been knocked down some. Is it time now to cut back and do the final mulching? Our temps here for the next 10 days is forecasted to be in the 50-60's* during the day and 30-40's* at night. I have already done some mulching.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63962&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63962&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
10-16-2018, 03:10 PM
Right or Wrong...I went ahead and cut the Baajoos today, used the tops in the mulch and added some pine mulch to the straw that was put on yesterday. Will add more straw and leaves when they fall. Do I need to let the cut portion of the stem dry before covering it with more mulch? I'm guessing I should put a tarp over the mulch and stems to keep it from more rain and getting wet.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63963&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63963&ppuser=27877)
geissene
10-16-2018, 03:36 PM
That will be fine. I place pieces of cardboard boxes around the pstems to provide a few inches of air between the stem and the mulch covering. This reduces the chance for mold by not having wet soggy mulch in direct contact.
geissene
10-16-2018, 03:38 PM
Tarp it so mulch stays dry. Wet mulch is bad.
I will do my basjoo in a few weeks. Not that cold here yet...
mari@adams.net
10-16-2018, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the replies and advice....I will try and add some cardboard as you said. Our weather here is so up-and-down, you never know when it will go to freeze and stay there. I was 'iffy' as to whether to go ahead and get them prepared for winter now, but will find out next year if I did wrong. They looked pretty bad today after the freeze last night. Not for sure about putting the stems away wet and bleeding moisture.
mari@adams.net
10-18-2018, 07:15 PM
I have 4 bales of straw on these basjoos plants, plus their tops when cut off and some pine mulch. A 2-layer (folded a big one) tarp placed over all this to keep it dry. Can lift it and add mulched leaves after they fall. We are still in the 50's-60 during the day but down to 29* at night. Have I mulched too much now with the temps as they are? Looks like another week of 50-60's with low night temps.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=63990&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=63990&ppuser=27877)
geissene
10-18-2018, 07:38 PM
This looks totally fine. Great job! There is no need to worry about a few days when the temperature reaches 50 to 60F. Let it stay like that until early April. Then you can lift it to take a peek.
mari@adams.net
12-11-2018, 11:53 PM
Some time ago, someone posted a remark about a banana plant that would be best for northerners to grow that would produce bloom in less time than other banana plants. I can't recall what it was. I'm sure it was a dwarf, I do have dwarf cavendish, but that wasn't what was suggested. Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?
beam2050
12-12-2018, 10:21 AM
Some time ago, someone posted a remark about a banana plant that would be best for northerners to grow that would produce bloom in less time than other banana plants. I can't recall what it was. I'm sure it was a dwarf, I do have dwarf cavendish, but that wasn't what was suggested. Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?
might be viente cohol or raja puri.
mari@adams.net
12-12-2018, 09:41 PM
Thanks, I'm thinking raja puri is the one.
Richard
12-12-2018, 10:10 PM
... Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?
Keep in mind that USDA Cold Hardiness zone 10 is considered northern for fruiting bananas.
Every banana I've grown in zone 9 has produced a bloom in 9-12 months. But after the bloom comes a 3-6 month ripening period -- the duration depending on the season the bloom occurred.
cincinnana
12-15-2018, 09:31 PM
Expect a 2-5 year grow cycle for a flower in that zone.
geissene
01-22-2019, 09:00 PM
They look great! Snow keeps the wind off and acts like an insulator. It is probably warmer under all the snow!
If you are ever curious, next year you can place a temperature probe (thermocouple) in the middle of your basjoo patch. Wrap it around a pstem and run the wires outside the mulch pile so you can read the temperature under your mulch pile on days like today.
The handheld meters are under 20 dollars on ebay....
Erik
mari@adams.net
01-23-2019, 12:25 AM
Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can find one....would be interesting to know what the temp is under all the mulch, tarp, and snow.
cincinnana
01-25-2019, 07:07 PM
Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can find one....would be interesting to know what the temp is under all the mulch, tarp, and snow.
There are a few threads which discuss this.
r values of soil and such.
If you cannot find the info here do an internet search
With keywords...... r value of dirt.
It is amazing to see how a small snow cover can protect your plants
cincinnana
01-25-2019, 07:08 PM
We recently had about 14" of snow (more than we've had in many years) which a lot has already melted off, but getting ready for more rain, sleet, and snow. Hoping the hardy basjoos are okay under their blanket of snow. Getting ready to have below 0* nite temps. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64306&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64306&ppuser=27877)
Snug as a bug......:08:
mari@adams.net
03-21-2019, 11:36 AM
The snow is gone and spring is finally here in Illinois. Our daytime temps are between 50-60* and low temps 30-40's*. Should I start uncovering (tarp) ---mulch on the hardy banana plants. Do I remove it gradually or all at once? Our spring was late in arriving and starting to warm up fairly fast. Thanks for any advice.
mari@adams.net
03-29-2019, 09:11 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64477&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64477&ppuser=27877)
I have taken off the tarp and mulch on the Basjoos. Our temps have been near 70* and nights 45+. After cutting back the mushy top, I assume they will push out of the center of the cut. We are now having rain and a couple days of cooler temps. Don't know for sure if I should put the tarp back on.
mari@adams.net
03-29-2019, 09:18 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64478&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64478&ppuser=27877)
Having a bad hair day....actually what was cut off the Basjoos.
mari@adams.net
04-21-2019, 11:07 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64522&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64522&ppuser=27877)
The basjoos hardy banana plant lived through the winter (with lots of mulch) but the mother plant looks like it didn't. I could have uncovered them too soon. Is it normal for the mother not to make it through winters here in Illinois? Our temps are now in the 70-80's* (days) range and nights in the 50's*.
cincinnana
04-24-2019, 03:56 AM
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The basjoos hardy banana plant lived through the winter (with lots of mulch) but the mother plant looks like it didn't. I could have uncovered them too soon. Is it normal for the mother not to make it through winters here in Illinois? Our temps are now in the 70-80's* (days) range and nights in the 50's*.
Looks good and perfectly normal for that plant.
Many times pups are first to emerge followed by the main plant a few weeks later.
Now is the time to divide and separate the pups if you wish.
Feed the beasts too!!:)
mari@adams.net
04-24-2019, 07:50 AM
I have feed them with some 13-13-13 granular fertilizer, don't know if I used enough, though....when they get leaves, I will spray them with a liquid fertilizer. How many pups do I leave....know there will probably be more coming. Was happy they made it through the winter here.
mari@adams.net
05-17-2019, 11:03 PM
The Musa Basjoos are doing great here in Illinois. They made it through the winter okay. Not for sure what to do with so many pups coming on mother plant....if I divide them now at the shown size, do you think I will get enough root or should I wait until they get bigger. Lots of pups here I don't need, but could pot them up and eventually share them or sell them.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64600&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64600&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
05-20-2019, 06:34 AM
The Musa Basjoos are doing great here in Illinois. They made it through the winter okay. Not for sure what to do with so many pups coming on mother plant....if I divide them now at the shown size, do you think I will get enough root or should I wait until they get bigger. Lots of pups here I don't need, but could pot them up and eventually share them or sell them.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64600&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64600&ppuser=27877)
Looking great.
They look nice in the pine straw.
mari@adams.net
06-12-2019, 06:56 PM
I went ahead and cut the stem down hoping to release the leaves....it did almost instantly. Now see a new leaf starting to push out....hope it continues to push and others follow. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=64705&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=64705&ppuser=27877)
geissene
06-12-2019, 07:42 PM
Looks good. Yea sometimes cutting is necessary. I just had to cut my Fei Aiuri back for the same reason. My other bananas have been growing fine for a month now which makes slow growth easy to recognize.
Hope it recovers fast!
mari@adams.net
07-26-2019, 10:47 PM
Basjoos in Illinois. Overwintered outside and uncovered late April, 2019http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65013&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65013&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
07-28-2019, 06:32 AM
Basjoos in Illinois. Overwintered outside and uncovered late April, 2019http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65013&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65013&ppuser=27877)
Those bananas look great .....and the cannas too!
HMelendez
07-28-2019, 03:39 PM
Mari,
Your Musa Basjoo’s are looking beautiful!.....Nice mat!.....You did an awesome job on The Dwarf Cavendish!....
:2723::bananarow::2723:
mari@adams.net
07-28-2019, 06:56 PM
Yes, the dwarf Cavendish recovered nicely after I did surgery on it. Was about ready to pitch it. Glad it worked and is doing okay, even putting out pups. Basjoos are behind it. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65038&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65038&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
07-28-2019, 07:18 PM
Another Dwarf Cavendish.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65039&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65039&ppuser=27877)
beam2050
07-29-2019, 02:09 PM
2 thumbs up on the looks of your yard. :08:
mari@adams.net
08-06-2019, 10:28 PM
I noticed today that the Orinoco banana plant has a leaf that is much smaller than the others. Could this be a preflag leaf? I think this is the 3rd year I have had this plant. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65099&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65099&ppuser=27877)
geissene
08-07-2019, 07:59 AM
Looks like a flag. And three years is the right time for zone 6. Enjoy the flower. Fruit may be difficult unless you can move it indoors for winter.
Congrats
mari@adams.net
08-07-2019, 08:30 AM
Just to see a flower is exciting for northern people. This is in the ground and tall and heavy so will be a challenge to get it inside for winter. I love to see the leaves developing and now to watch a flower....so thankful it is wanting to please me, LOL!
mari@adams.net
08-08-2019, 08:04 PM
How long after a flag leaf does it take for the flower to show? Would it help if I foliage fertilized? http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65105&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65105&ppuser=27877)
geissene
08-10-2019, 01:49 PM
Between 1 to 2 weeks after the flag.
I am expecting you would see baby nanas around the first week of september!
mari@adams.net
08-12-2019, 10:49 AM
Is there anything left for this bloom but opening up?http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65125&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65125&ppuser=27877)
Sarah Brubacker
08-12-2019, 12:41 PM
Congratulations on the bloom!
Nope its already starting to open! I figure you'll see the bananas soon! That was so exciting for me, and still is when I have a new one!
mari@adams.net
08-12-2019, 01:10 PM
Thanks for your reply, Sarah, going to get some PVC pipe for bracing....yes, very exciting for us Northern people to see a banana bloom in our backyard. I watched it yesterday doing it's 'fall'....you could almost see it happening. 3 years in the waiting for this. Banana plants are very interesting plants. Have sold a lot of pups (mostly dwarf Cavendish and Basjoos) to people hoping to get them interesting in banana plants in my area. Have given them this site for reference, but don't know how many have joined.
Sarah Brubacker
08-12-2019, 07:19 PM
Yes I took pictures as a flower came out and it did drop fast!
I've sold a couple hundred here in this area as well and I know if a few that got "addicted" but as far as I know no one has got fruit yet.
I hope you get to try it as well! Do you think you'll move it in?
mari@adams.net
08-12-2019, 09:50 PM
It is in the ground so have to dig it up but will try to get it all into the basement. Last fall when I dug it up and moved it in (cut it down to about 3'), it was very big and heavy. Had to drag it in on a tarp. Don't know how far this will get this year but want to try and get as far as I can with it. Any advice how to proceed with this will greatly be appreciated.....since this is the end of this stem, should I try to keep all intact or cut it off?...………… Tuesday, Thinking now not to do anything to brace this....should I let it do it's thing.....what would the people here do with this. Don't know if the plant stem is big enough to support the bloom....
Sarah Brubacker
08-13-2019, 02:26 PM
You definitely don't want to cut it if you want to fruit to fill out, looks like I'll have to be digging up 5 or so plants 10+ feet tall! If they all have fruit on I'll dig them up and lay them sideways to finish filling out. Or so I'm hoping.. I'll be "pouring" a lot of potassium on in hopes they'll be more filled out!
So far I never really brace smaller bunches, did have to brace some really big heavy ones but maybe they would have been fine?
mari@adams.net
08-13-2019, 03:26 PM
My concern is the growth for this year isn't as big as last years where I cut it. I did use some nylon rope cushioned by a piece of blue pool noodle (to keep the rope away from the stem) and pulled the stem back some (to a piece of wood fence) because it was leaning from where the sun had pulled it. ...when you dig yours for winter, do you leave it bare root or do you put it into a container with some soil over the root? Thanks for all you information...I greatly appreciate it....Don't know what I am doing with this plant yet. What do you use for a high potassium fertilizer?.......The only thing I can find locally that has a high potassium # is Miracle Grow Tomato soluble fertilizer. 18-18-21.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65128&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65128&ppuser=27877)
Sarah Brubacker
08-13-2019, 07:26 PM
I'm still learning and I'm not even sure what I'll do this year but last year I bare rooted than kinda dug it in the soil, they were too big to put in pots. I'll probably do something like that again but it's a lot of work and super heavy hauling plants that size.
My fertilizer I use is 4-18-38, I also give them another one with more N and lower P.
mari@adams.net
08-13-2019, 08:04 PM
Thanks for all your help, Sarah.
mari@adams.net
08-15-2019, 11:33 AM
Do you think the plant will support the stem/bloom without some kind of bracing....I would hate to see it break off from the bloom weight? I'm sure the bloom will get a lot heavier.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65134&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65134&ppuser=27877)
geissene
08-15-2019, 12:55 PM
From my limited experience, I've never seen heavy fruit be an issue for Zone 6.
But I wish it was a problem :)
People usually limit the number of hands that can mature and remove the flower so that a few bananas have an opportunity to ripen before frost comes.
mari@adams.net
08-15-2019, 09:01 PM
Basjoos in Illinois...these were over-wintered outside (mulched)last winter....they have really grown since end of April. Leaves have gotten very big, I'm guessing 6-7' long. Still have a lot of growing to do, can't imagine how tall they are going to get. So glad I left them out last winter.
The plant on the right is a Dwarf Cavendish...the others are basjoos.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65139&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65139&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
08-17-2019, 09:25 PM
The blooming Orinoco has a large and a small pup. Should these be left on now or taken off? If the pups should be left on, when the blooming Orinoco has to be dug up in the fall, should the pups be left on or taken off while digging up.
Akula
08-17-2019, 10:36 PM
I would not remove any pups until all the bananas from the flower have appeared. Wait till the bud is extended about 6 inches below the last banana then remove the bud and carefully remove the pups without hitting any roots.
I maintain one pup on each fruiting plant but in your Zone 6 I would remove them from the fruiting plant if I was going for fruit. Pups are too much of an energy/nutrient draw from the fruiting plant.
mari@adams.net
08-17-2019, 11:15 PM
That is what I was wondering...if the pup/pups, (there are two a large one and a small one), are taking nutrients from the mother plant that it should have to finish out the bloom as much as it can before the weather starts going cool here. When it comes time to dig and take mother/bloom in, that part of the plant will be very heavy without an added large pup.
cincinnana
08-18-2019, 06:49 AM
The blooming Orinoco has a large and a small pup. Should these be left on now or taken off? If the pups should be left on, when the blooming Orinoco has to be dug up in the fall, should the pups be left on or taken off while digging up.
In the past my container grown Orinocos that flower late in the season will lose the flower and fruit by Jan/Feb.
I think any pup removal is more damaging at this stage in the cycle.
Maybe if we were in a better grow zone like 10 the plant would recover enough to continue.
As soon as the plants roots are disturbed for the moving process the plant will immediately decline.
The plant has a large footprint so it will prove difficult to keep under lights.
Give this learning expierience a chance to play out it will be worth it.
mari@adams.net
08-18-2019, 09:44 AM
Little nanners were being made as I was sleeping last night. What a surprise to wake up to.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65155&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65155&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
08-19-2019, 02:49 PM
How much water (with soluble fertilizer) should this plant be getting? I don't want to root rot it. It put out it's second hand of bananas this morning (last night?). I used a moisture meter and the soil around it shows it is 'wet'. We are in our high 80*'s here day and high 60*'s to 75* at night. Have had a little rain, but now looks like a dry spell.
mari@adams.net
08-20-2019, 07:20 PM
I tried to post another picture and got a message "exceeds space limitation'. Does that mean that I can no longer post a picture?
beam2050
08-20-2019, 07:30 PM
you have to delete some of your pics from old threads to post from now on or do something like using flickr.
mari@adams.net
08-20-2019, 11:18 PM
We had heavy rain today and it knocked the purple petal off a couple of the hands of bananas....hope they will be okay. It seems it puts out another hand of bananas every day. Fascinating to get up every morning and see what was happening while I was sleeping.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65161&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65161&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
08-23-2019, 07:24 PM
Any info appreciated on why the edges of the Orinoco leaves have a yelo edging....this plant is the one that has the bloom/bananas on it. Is this a nutrient deficiency? I usually add Epson salts to the fertilizing solution when watering. and it has had plenty of rain water. My moisture meter says is is 'wet'. Was wondering if the nutrients are going now to the bloom/bananas and not leaves.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65216&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65216&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
08-23-2019, 07:30 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65217&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65217&ppuser=27877)
The Dwarf Cavendish has two large pups on it. I want to take them off and get them established in pots before taking them in for the winter......are they too big to do so or should I leave all 3 together..
cincinnana
08-23-2019, 07:31 PM
Any info appreciated on why the edges of the Orinoco leaves have a yelo edging....this plant is the one that has the bloom/bananas on it. Is this a nutrient deficiency? I usually add Epson salts to the fertilizing solution when watering. and it has had plenty of rain water. My moisture meter says is is 'wet'. Was wondering if the nutrients are going now to the bloom/bananas and not leaves.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65216&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65216&ppuser=27877)
My first guess is that your days are getting a few minutes shorter..
mari@adams.net
08-23-2019, 07:49 PM
Yes, it is getting shorter very rapidly...I can feel Fall in the air. Days are still in the 80*'s but nights are going down to 60's. Thanks for the reply....didn't realize loss of daylight hours would do this. Haven't noticed this yet on the other banana plants.
cincinnana
08-23-2019, 08:00 PM
Yes, it is getting shorter very rapidly...I can feel Fall in the air. Days are still in the 80*'s but nights are going down to 60's. Thanks for the reply....didn't realize loss of daylight hours would do this. Haven't noticed this yet on the other banana plants.
Fall is here...
That is what plants do.
No matter what you do....your plants know to shut it down for the season .
Some may shut down before others.
Plant are amazing.....
Keep posting ..
mari@adams.net
08-26-2019, 10:50 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65230&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65230&ppuser=27877)
Since we are late in the season, our temps are now in the 70's-80's days and 60's and some high 50's nights, I'm wondering if I should cut the smallest bananas above the bud (and including the bud) off so the growth can go to the bigger bananas. Or is the bud providing some nutrients for the bigger bananas. There is 3 hands of very small bananas below the bigger ones.
mari@adams.net
08-28-2019, 06:37 PM
The Orinoco is dropping it's small bananas.....is this a normal process or is there a problem that it is dropping the small developed ones. Does too much water cause this? Are these the male flowers? http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65247&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65247&ppuser=27877)
geissene
08-28-2019, 07:13 PM
Looks normal, those male flowers will drop about one set each day.
mari@adams.net
08-28-2019, 08:10 PM
When is the bud cut off or is it left on.....is the bud taking nutrient that the small banana bunches should have?
geissene
08-28-2019, 08:15 PM
The bud needs to be about 12 inches below the last set of developing bananas before you cut it off. The stem will dry up and die back when you cut off the bud. The bud is taking resources but cutting it too early is bad.
I tried eating the bud once after watching a video on youtube. It was a lot of work to clean the flowers but interesting experience.
cincinnana
08-28-2019, 08:20 PM
Fall is here...
Great post.
That is what plants do.
No matter what you do....your plants know to shut it down for the season .
Some may shut down before others.
Plant are amazing.....
Keep posting ..
This is what your plant will do.
Short days ....long nights and drop in average temperature will cause your plants to pull back for the season.
Your little nanners look awesome...
mari@adams.net
08-28-2019, 08:50 PM
Thanks to everyone for all the information....our days are really getting shorter now, this week's temps days are still in the 80's, nights..60's with a high 50* thrown in....don't know how long these temps will last....September can be warm and maybe not. I'm in the midwest so anything can happen......I have been watering about every 3 days with a 17-18-28 Tomato fertilizer (1Tbs to a gal water). Can't find anything very high in potassium around my area. Have even sprayed it on the leaves.....My time is limited before I have to dig this up and put it in the basement. Is there anything I need to do to get it prepared for winter storage? Going to try and keep it all intact.
cincinnana
08-28-2019, 08:57 PM
Thanks to everyone for all the information....our days are really getting shorter now, this week's temps days are still in the 80's, nights..60's with a high 50* thrown in....don't know how long these temps will last....September can be warm and maybe not. I'm in the midwest so anything can happen......I have been watering about every 3 days with a 17-18-28 Tomato fertilizer (1Tbs to a gal water). Can't find anything very high in potassium around my area. Have even sprayed it on the leaves.....My time is limited before I have to dig this up and put it in the basement. Is there anything I need to do to get it prepared for winter storage? Going to try and keep it all intact.
Do not disturb as many roots as possible as you transplant..
mari@adams.net
08-28-2019, 09:34 PM
Do not disturb as many roots as possible as you transplant..
So I will be digging a huge root ball when taking it in.....time to call in the neighbors for help, I am sure. How long should I leave this out before taking it in......should I wait until the nights get 50* or the days 50*. Or should I do it sooner.
tomhankies
08-29-2019, 04:05 AM
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geissene
08-29-2019, 12:15 PM
Anytime is fine. The plants don't grow much now so it won't matter. I'd take it out before your overnight lows hit 45
mari@adams.net
08-29-2019, 12:34 PM
Ordered a http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65249&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65249&ppuser=27877)Super Dwarf Cavendish and she sent 2....They arrived in great shape........Thanks, Sarah.
Sarah Brubacker
08-29-2019, 12:49 PM
Ordered a http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65249&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65249&ppuser=27877)Super Dwarf Cavendish and she sent 2....They arrived in great shape........Thanks, Sarah.
You're welcome! Glad they got there safely!
cincinnana
08-30-2019, 06:09 PM
Ordered a http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65249&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65249&ppuser=27877)Super Dwarf Cavendish and she sent 2....They arrived in great shape........Thanks, Sarah.
Great addition....they willl do well in your garden....
best
doberso
09-01-2019, 04:56 PM
No you are not. You have to place the Complete URL for that img between the tags. And the image MUST be hosted on a web server.
mari@adams.net
09-07-2019, 10:08 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65298&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65298&ppuser=27877)
Do you think these will fill out before I have to take the plant in?
mari@adams.net
09-16-2019, 03:15 PM
What to do to get bananas to fill out.....how long does it take?
mari@adams.net
09-16-2019, 09:20 PM
Do I cut the male blossom (bud) off now that the rachis is about a foot long? I was planning to do this tomorrow but wanted to make sure it is the thing to do now. Will more nutrients go into the bananas when doing this?http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65332&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65332&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
09-17-2019, 06:07 PM
Do I cut the male blossom (bud) off now that the rachis is about a foot long? I was planning to do this tomorrow but wanted to make sure it is the thing to do now. Will more nutrients go into the bananas when doing this?http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65332&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65332&ppuser=27877)
I would let it roll till the first frost.
Just sit back and take it in......:woohoonaner:
Watch and learn ....
Me, I am amazed at the plant when it blooms and pops a banana or two.
Enjoy the process while it happens.
Great detailed photos.
mari@adams.net
09-17-2019, 07:30 PM
So, is the male blossom/bud providing something for the bananas? I thought maybe they were taking something away from the bananas that the bananas need. I will let it alone unless you suggest something else.
geissene
09-17-2019, 08:25 PM
Just enjoy the flower, if its your first time watching one.
I can't tell you how to get the fruit to fill in faster. I imagine it won't be easy at this time of year but give it a try!
mari@adams.net
09-17-2019, 08:40 PM
Yes, it is the first time any of mine have flowered...have various ones (Basjoos, Orinoco, maurelii, and dwarf Cavendish) for 3 years. It has been an interesting summer this year watching the bloom form the bananas. Going to dig it all up, pot it and try to keep it going in the basement to see if the bananas will fill out this fall/winter/spring. Thanks to everyone for all the help with my banana plants. No one in my area knows much about growing bananas, so have had to rely on this site and internet research.
cincinnana
09-21-2019, 07:23 PM
Yes, it is the first time any of mine have flowered...have various ones (Basjoos, Orinoco, maurelii, and dwarf Cavendish) for 3 years. It has been an interesting summer this year watching the bloom form the bananas. Going to dig it all up, pot it and try to keep it going in the basement to see if the bananas will fill out this fall/winter/spring. Thanks to everyone for all the help with my banana plants. No one in my area knows much about growing bananas, so have had to rely on this site and internet research.
Please keep posting.......we will fill in the blanks when we can.
By the way......what is a donetta?
mari@adams.net
09-21-2019, 07:55 PM
A "Donetta" is one of the ones doing the posting on this banana forum.
cincinnana
09-22-2019, 06:05 PM
A "Donetta" is one of the ones doing the posting on this banana forum.
Right on.....
geissene
09-23-2019, 09:26 AM
I wondered that myself! Ha
HMelendez
09-23-2019, 12:27 PM
Mari,
You are one of the few Donetta’s growing bananas in here!....My admiration and respect!....Bravo!.....Keep it up!....
:2723::bananarow::2723:
mari@adams.net
09-23-2019, 12:58 PM
LOL, it isn't a very common name. The banana plant is my new passion. Sometimes, it's the little things that make us happy. I grow many plants...…..garden (heirloom tomatoes), there isn't many flowers in my area that I don't have, especially love the tropicals from bougainvillea to the banana plants. Thanks for all the help everyone has given me from this site. I enjoy seeing all the pictures of the bananas. Something we don't have here.
cincinnana
09-23-2019, 10:03 PM
…..garden (heirloom tomatoes), there isn't many flowers in my area that I don't have,
I picked up a heirloom tomato plant back in spring....never had grown it before.
I kicked my best performers to the side and went "wild"with this plant.
Prudens purple an indertiminate plant with a somewhat short fruit time.
My plant is pruned to 5X24....yes the plant is Kikazz. that is 5 feet x 24 feet growing on a hog fence....1lb fruits .
Fruit is short lived .........starts to decline on the vine before ripe.
Heirlooms are awesome but they have issues.
Love your garden space..
mari@adams.net
09-23-2019, 11:33 PM
Don't let that heirloom keep you from trying others, there are many awesome heirlooms. Haven't tried the one you mentioned, but have grown many kinds and they always had great flavor. The hybrid ones have had the flavor bred out of them. My favorites are the Oxhearts (both Pink and Orange). Yes, they do grow and will grow inside a 6' cage and down the outside to the ground. The Oxhearts are very meaty, few small seeds with a great tomato taste. I found a great cross between the pink & orange Oxheart with one called Hillbilly (bi-color). They were the only ones I planted this year and probably next year, too. The banana plant is something new to me and I enjoy learning about it. I like something that is challenging. Our daytime temps is still in the high 70's to 80+* so hope they do a little more growing even though the days are getting much shorter.
cincinnana
09-24-2019, 08:11 PM
Don't let that heirloom keep you from trying others, there are many awesome heirlooms. Haven't tried the one you mentioned, but have grown many kinds and they always had great flavor. The hybrid ones have had the flavor bred out of them. My favorites are the Oxhearts (both Pink and Orange). Yes, they do grow and will grow inside a 6' cage and down the outside to the ground. The Oxhearts are very meaty, few small seeds with a great tomato taste. I found a great cross between the pink & orange Oxheart with one called Hillbilly (bi-color). They were the only ones I planted this year and probably next year, too. The banana plant is something new to me and I enjoy learning about it. I like something that is challenging. Our daytime temps is still in the high 70's to 80+* so hope they do a little more growing even though the days are getting much shorter.
Start looking at root pruning your plants.
Do an internet search..READ....this is very important to your plants.
This works well on tomatoes and bushes and small trees.
You will need to root prune your banana plant soon....so it adapts to your pot.
mari@adams.net
09-25-2019, 12:14 AM
Can't find anything on the internet about 'root pruning banana plants'. Are you talking about using a spade to cut the root system around the banana plant that will fit into a pot?
cincinnana
09-25-2019, 09:58 AM
Can't find anything on the internet about 'root pruning banana plants'. Are you talking about using a spade to cut the root system around the banana plant that will fit into a pot?
Yes, you will then condition/stress the plant to utilize a smaller root ball.
You run the spade around the plant the same size as your pot without disturbing the rootball too much....it will also help when you lift the plant at the end of your season.
This might help with the transition to a pot and keep your plant stable and increase your chances for the fruit not to turn black once indoors.
The common technique is used to stress a plant to either bear fruit (for me tomatoes) or cause a flush of root growth.
https://www.thespruce.com/root-pruning-trees-1402459
mari@adams.net
09-25-2019, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the website....will you give me advice on getting this one (with bananas) in. Can I at least cut each leaf in half for size. I was told to leave the suckers on the mother plant, but the leaves are very big for where I have to put it. Our temps here are unusually warm for our fall season....up to 85* daytime with anywhere from 56* to 70's nights. That is to continue for another week. When should I start root pruning? Now? Thanks for all your valuable information. Would it be bad for mother plant if I took the biggest pup off now or when I dig it up? One of the pups is as big or bigger than mother. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65368&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65368&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
09-29-2019, 09:32 PM
We are okay with our temps this week until Thursday when the highs for a few days are to be 67* during the day and 50* nights. Would you say it's time to start getting the non-hardy plants into the basement? Especially the Orinoco with the bananas on it. We could warm up some, but think the night low's are here to stay.
cincinnana
10-01-2019, 06:15 PM
We are okay with our temps this week until Thursday when the highs for a few days are to be 67* during the day and 50* nights. Would you say it's time to start getting the non-hardy plants into the basement? Especially the Orinoco with the bananas on it. We could warm up some, but think the night low's are here to stay.
sweet...great looking garden.
So what do you think ????
mari@adams.net
10-01-2019, 06:50 PM
I have started cutting the leaves back 1/2 on the plants, root pruned the ones to be dug and taken in. Is it safe for mother and the bananas to cut the pups' stems back to take some of the weight off when digging up? Or should the leaves be left on the pups. Going to try to leave the leaves (cut half) on mother. It was 92* here today but a cold front coming Thursday with a high in the 60*- low down to 48* and will continue 60's* for a few days with lows going back up to low 50's. I'm working to get the plants in but think I have a little breathing room, I hope. Any advice on this would be appreciated. Our weather can change so fast here....we are in our Fall season.
mari@adams.net
10-04-2019, 03:03 PM
Our nights are getting down into the 40's so went ahead and dug the Orinoco for the basement. I had to take the large pup off as it was as big as it's Mother. Just too big and heavy to get into a pot. I did leave the smaller pup on. Had to cut more of the leaves than I wanted to get it situated into the space between the floor joist. My question is how much do I water this (if at all) and will it do any good to mist it with water/fertilizer? Thanks for all the help in getting this to where it is. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65389&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65389&ppuser=27877)
geissene
10-04-2019, 06:48 PM
I water every two weeks. I like to let the pot dry out fairly well. It keeps fungus gnat populations under control and limits growth. I water the plant from the bottom on every other watering. I lightly fertilize once a month - very lightly.
I never tried to keep bananas inside on a plant but I imagine the plant will show signs if things are terribly wrong. Such as yellowing / browning leaves or leaves the remain folded together all the time.
Good luck. I am starting to bring my plants inside as well. This weekend I'm doing AAs then ABBs will move inside in another week or two.
Erik
mari@adams.net
10-04-2019, 07:28 PM
Thanks on your response, I am sure the bananas need moisture, but am afraid of root rot. Guess it doesn't matter since this stem is done (with the bananas) but there is a small pup with it. I did take the large pup off. I have a moisture meter so will use it. I will work with the pot tomorrow and see if I can angle it some and get the leaves out of the flooring and in to a little of the light. I plan to bring the rest of my plants in tomorrow and this week. Our night temps are getting too cold and the day in the 60's - very low 70.
cincinnana
10-05-2019, 07:25 PM
Thanks on your response, I am sure the bananas need moisture, but am afraid of root rot. Guess it doesn't matter since this stem is done (with the bananas) but there is a small pup with it. I did take the large pup off. I have a moisture meter so will use it. I will work with the pot tomorrow and see if I can angle it some and get the leaves out of the flooring and in to a little of the light. I plan to bring the rest of my plants in tomorrow and this week. Our night temps are getting too cold and the day in the 60's - very low 70.
Do not sweat...those plants are good for sustained low 40'S high 30's.
Mine are still outside surfing...
mari@adams.net
10-05-2019, 09:40 PM
Our forecast for next Friday nite is a low 38*, so we are getting a little too close for comfort. I have quite a few to get in so thought (for my comfort, too) might as well start getting them in. Have some other things to do during the days next week so won't have to worry about them when it gets really cold. Our weather here changes so fast.
mari@adams.net
10-07-2019, 04:29 PM
What are the chances of these bananas filling out in the basement? How much do I water the plant? They are so tall I can't get much light on the leaves. Does it help to keep light on the bananas as well as leaves? Is this plant done as far as doing anything for the bananas? Thanks for any info.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65404&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65404&ppuser=27877)
Akula
10-07-2019, 05:31 PM
I wish you the best but I have a bunch hanging in the dark, deep, corner of my little patch shadowed by the big namwas for six months. The filling is going on at a glacier's pace. That being said...give it a shot! Never give up!
geissene
10-07-2019, 06:19 PM
My guess is they will fill very slowly until next spring. Just try to keep the leaves alive so they can help ripen the fruit next year.
mari@adams.net
10-09-2019, 08:56 AM
Don't know for sure where this question belongs but....don't know if it is my computer or the website....there may be a couple of days where the website doesn't respond. Is there problems with the website when this happens or is it on my end.
Akula
10-09-2019, 09:22 AM
Don't know for sure where this question belongs but....don't know if it is my computer or the website....there may be a couple of days where the website doesn't respond. Is there problems with the website when this happens or is it on my end.
The website goes down for a few days every couple months it seems. Its not you!
mari@adams.net
10-09-2019, 09:51 AM
I believe it went down, then, 2 times this week for me.....guess we just have to wait until it goes back up. No problem. Glad it isn't me.
beam2050
10-09-2019, 11:25 AM
I believe it went down, then, 2 times this week for me.....guess we just have to wait until it goes back up. No problem. Glad it isn't me.
it was me but I thought it was you. :nanerwizard:
mari@adams.net
10-09-2019, 12:04 PM
Glad it was you and not me.
cincinnana
10-09-2019, 08:09 PM
The website goes down for a few days every couple months it seems. Its not you!
Make the once a week......for 2+days week.
And I am not the only one...
cincinnana
10-11-2019, 06:34 PM
Great plant....touching the ceiling....:08:
Akula
10-11-2019, 06:47 PM
Make the once a week......for 2+days week.
And I am not the only one...
Evidently I was being generous.
mari@adams.net
10-11-2019, 07:39 PM
Glad I have already gotten all the banana plants into the basement (except the hardy ones), supposed to get to 32* in the morning (Saturday). Then the temps come back up some. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65413&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65413&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
10-11-2019, 07:46 PM
Glad I have already gotten all the banana plants into the basement (except the hardy ones), supposed to get to 32* in the morning (Saturday). Then the temps come back up some. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65413&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65413&ppuser=27877)
Wow ,,,,what the collection.....Great pic
mari@adams.net
10-11-2019, 08:02 PM
These are mostly dwarf Cavendish, Basjoos, with a couple Orinocos and one Maurelii. I hope to sell the smaller d. cavendish and hardy Basjoos next year. Hope I don't kill any off before next Spring.
mari@adams.net
10-12-2019, 10:53 AM
Our forecast for my area last night (Illinois) was for a freeze, but the Basjoos leaves and other tropicals say it didn't get that low. Looks like our low temps are 38* and above for the following week, so get to enjoy the banana plants a little longer.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65417&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65417&ppuser=27877)
Sarah Brubacker
10-12-2019, 03:30 PM
It's good that you got all of yours in even if it didn't freeze!
I had one day (and one evening) to get all my plants indoors before we had 29˚ this morning! I don't think they would have looked happy if they would have been outside. Now I got a real mess to clean up from my hurried move!
mari@adams.net
10-12-2019, 04:40 PM
Yes, I'm glad now that I went ahead and got them all in. Just waiting for the Basjoos to get knocked down with frost and get them mulched. Guess I could go ahead and start mulching them now before cutting. Having a hard time finding straw with a decent price. Most stores want $7. a bale and I am trying to find someone selling it for $4. Someone advertised it for that, but think they are sold out. Might have to pay the higher price and get started. I'm sure you will have things cleaned up in no time. Glad you got them all in.
mari@adams.net
10-14-2019, 09:11 PM
Since this website (for me) was down 4 times (for a couple days each time) in a little over a week, are there other websites (message boards or forums) about bananas that you are aware of.
geissene
10-15-2019, 05:59 AM
There is a planet musa group on Mark Zuckerberg's signature social network site. They get some good posts there but its more pictures and less discussion.
Nanas don't change much from day to day, so I just live with the bugs on this website. As a person in the tech field, I know managing websites isn't always fun, easy, or glorious....
Erik
mari@adams.net
10-15-2019, 07:55 AM
I do a lot of reading of recent and older posts so when this site is down, I try and find other forums on bananas. Thought maybe people on this site might know of some that I don't. What I have found isn't as active and informative as this site. I'm sure that managing a website isn't all fun and glory. Never seen this site down as much as it has been the past week +. Just have to bear with the problems here, but looking for other alternative sites when this one is down.
mari@adams.net
10-16-2019, 09:56 AM
The end of the stock has a white discoloration on it (fungus/mold?) and seems to be moving up the stock towards the bananas. What do I do with this? Do I cut it off and treat the end with something? Thanks for any help with this.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65434&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65434&ppuser=27877)
Akula
10-16-2019, 10:28 AM
I've had this happen on my Unknown plant that is in more shadowy, moist area without a lot of direct sun. The rot ran up the rachis until it hit the bottom hand where it stopped. I had about 6" of space between the bottom hand and where I cut the flower. I've never had this problem with my namwas.
Hopefully someone posts up a solution.
cincinnana
10-17-2019, 07:15 AM
The end of the stock has a white discoloration on it (fungus/mold?) and seems to be moving up the stock towards the bananas. What do I do with this? Do I cut it off and treat the end with something? Thanks for any help with this.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65434&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65434&ppuser=27877)
Sady, it looks normal.
Fungi and mold will populate the necrotic tissue of a plant, this is what happens in nature.
The mold will travel up the rachis till it reaches the inedible fruit... could take 30 days or so.
Keep an eye on the fruit, if it shows any sign of wrinkles/aging/dehydration then your done for the season
Then, the immature fruit just turns black and shrivels up and your pstem cracks in half and turns to mush.
For prepping those Basjoos go to the Bigbox store and get the color of mulch of your choice and apply a 6 inch+ layer if you wish.
Cost is about 4 for 10.00$ and it looks like you could use 8+ bags for the plants in the photo.
A small mound of mulch looks good and amends your soil at the same time.
Mulch has better insulating properties also.
In the spring just spiff it up with some pine straw and your good to go
Tarping over the plant is gardeners personal preference.
mari@adams.net
10-17-2019, 08:54 AM
Would it do any good to apply a fungicide on the fungi? Would that stop it from going further up the stock? I'm thinking the humidity in the room where I have the banana plants is too high, so may put a dehumidifier there for a while. I run a fan some. Thanks for the advice on the big box mulch, but I have already bought several bales of straw. I hope to be able to save the straw next spring if it is dry (in bags) till the next fall to use again. It worked well last winter. Even saved the Mother stem but I took the straw off too soon and lost her. All the pups made it okay.
mari@adams.net
10-17-2019, 09:18 PM
Right or wrong, I cut the fungus off the stock of the Orinoco bananas. I disinfected the clippers and the stock with the fungus on it, then put peroxide around the new cut. Hope that stops the fungus from coming back.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65438&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65438&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
10-23-2019, 09:05 PM
I did a fresh cut on the stem of the small bunch of bananas 5 days ago, and the end of the stem is again turning brown. Is this from the soil being too dry? I have watered some but don't want to root rot as this is inside now in a pot for winter. Is it turning brown a good or bad thing? Would misting help keep the stem green? http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65462&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65462&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
10-23-2019, 11:09 PM
I have a question about cutting back the hardy Basjoo for winter. I've read to wait until a frost on the leaves before cutting back the stems and mulching. Does the frost kill all of the stem? I want the Mother plant to survive winter so don't want the stem killed. Would the Mother plant have a better chance of survival if it is cut back and mulched before a frost?
geissene
10-24-2019, 06:05 AM
I would wait for frost unless you get a true freeze first. Usually a frost just kills leaves since it only lasts a few hours.
I'm not sure what can be done with your fruit. Just enjoy them while you can.
bushwack
10-24-2019, 06:48 AM
I am chopping all my Basjoo's off now when green (before the frost nips the leaves ) and covering them up,, did this last year to three of them and they all came back strong.
I dug the others up and dry stored them last year and none of them survived,, so I'm leaving all them in the ground this year
mari@adams.net
10-24-2019, 08:55 AM
Thanks for the replies...I wondered if the frost on the leaves helped energy go down into the corm...don't know how much harm the frost does to the stem. Would like Mother stem to come back next year.
Backyard Banana Joe
10-24-2019, 10:12 AM
in my limited experience I think you are fine. The neighbors cut the bloom on their bunch about a foot away from the bunch. it dried up several inches then just stopped dying. I think the drying is a natural process, as the stem is no longer a pathway (with the bud cut) to send nutrients anywhere (to the bud). I would stop cutting the stem back as the deadness it will just keep backing up towards the bananas. And, if you lose this bunch of bananas, you have a pup that will fruit several months after you plant it in the spring!
Backyard Banana Joe
10-24-2019, 10:24 AM
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYuBhf8jDo
Thanks for watching!!!
Backyard Banana Joe
10-24-2019, 10:27 AM
As his plant is in the ground, it isn’t quite accurate, but if you watch the video, you can se that he pulled on the dry stock, and it pulled off. Obove it was a perfectly healed wound. You just have to cut it further away next time!!!!!!!!! Hopefully they ripen for you! :woohoonaner::woohoonaner::woohoonaner::woohoonaner::0517:
mari@adams.net
10-25-2019, 07:22 PM
Since we are heading (in a few days) for a hard freeze (26*) I went ahead and cut the Basjoos down to prepare them for mulching. It was near 50* today but temps are to change fast Tuesday. Will mulch them in a day or so but wanted the tops to dry a little first. I miss seeing them waving to me from the front window. Hope we have a mild short winter.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65496&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65496&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
10-25-2019, 07:24 PM
Since we are heading (in a few days) for a hard freeze (26*) I went ahead and cut the Basjoos down to prepare them for mulching. It was near 50* today but temps are to change fast Tuesday. Will mulch them in a day or so but wanted the tops to dry a little first. I miss seeing them waving to me from the front window. Hope we have a mild short winter.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65496&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65496&ppuser=27877)
OMG..............The Humanity.......:woohoonaner:
mari@adams.net
10-25-2019, 08:17 PM
OMG..............The Humanity.......:woohoonaner:
LOL
mari@adams.net
10-27-2019, 05:20 PM
Temps are supposed to get down to 26 in a couple days, so put the Basjoos to bed for the winter today. I'm sure the straw will settle a lot before Spring. Happy Halloween, everyone!http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65503&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65503&ppuser=27877)
HMelendez
10-27-2019, 07:16 PM
Temps are supposed to get down to 26 in a couple days, so put the Basjoos to bed for the winter today. I'm sure the straw will settle a lot before Spring. Happy Halloween, everyone!http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65503&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65503&ppuser=27877)
Awesome job Mari!....
:2723::bananarow::2723:
mari@adams.net
10-27-2019, 07:32 PM
Thanks, I want the mother plants to be able to grow in the Spring....don't know if I am 'over-doing' it, but our winters can be very cold and windy. This worked last year, so hope it works again this winter.
HMelendez
10-27-2019, 07:37 PM
Thanks, I want the mother plants to be able to grow in the Spring....don't know if I am 'over-doing' it, but our winters can be very cold and windy. This worked last year, so hope it works again this winter.
Mari,
I don't think you are "over doing it!"......It worked last year, so it will work this coming winter!....
:2723::bananarow::2723:
mari@adams.net
10-30-2019, 12:41 PM
What would I look for to buy a thermometer that I could insert inside the straw mulch near the hardy banana plants, to tell me on the outside, what that temperature is. Not for sure what to ask for. Someone on this site suggested this. Is it inserted just near the plants or into the soil there.
mari@adams.net
10-31-2019, 10:54 AM
Would this food 'thingie' work for telling what the temperature is if placed near the Basjoos that I have mulched? (Pushing it through the mulch to the plant)http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65534&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65534&ppuser=27877)
mari@adams.net
10-31-2019, 11:30 AM
I am so glad I put the Basjoos to bed last week....rain, sleet, and snow today and in the 20's.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65535&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65535&ppuser=27877)
beam2050
10-31-2019, 11:34 AM
looks that is a meat thermometer. here is one from home depot, ACURITE
not sure if the probe is water tight tho. maybe put it in a small electrical box with silicone???? 10 ft. sensor chord, 17.90 dollars.
https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/0709094d-b476-4469-87e3-da6d615f3b63/svn/acurite-home-weather-stations-02042-64_400_compressed.jpg
mari@adams.net
11-02-2019, 04:18 PM
I did find the AcuRite indoor/outdoor thermometer at Lowe's, our Home Depot did not have it. About $20. with tax. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65545&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65545&ppuser=27877)
geissene
11-02-2019, 07:14 PM
Your meter will work fine! You even added some water resistance which is all you need to last for one winter season.
I use this hand held meter pictured below (about $20 also on ebay). It uses thermocouple wire for sensing temperature. The wires come in various lengths and plugs into the meter. This allows me to stick multiple wires outdoors and measure them all with the same meter. The wire is the only part that stays outside. Persimmon shown for reference only....
Now the real question is, will you go outside when the temperature is in the single digits and read your thermometer?? I'm crazy enough to do that :)
Erik
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65546&ppuser=17582><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65546&size=1 border=0></a>
mari@adams.net
11-02-2019, 08:50 PM
Yours looks like a good meter, too, I was limited for choice. It is very near my front door so wouldn't be far to go, and I can see the dial/numbers from my front window. If the dial had snow over it, I would have to go outside, which I would probably do. I didn't insert it into the ground, just laid the sensor by the bottom of one of the banana plants. May take something and make a hole in the dirt so it is more into the dirt. There is a 10' cord. 'C' is the sensor. I think I need to compact the straw more as it didn't seem very tight.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65547&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65547&ppuser=27877)
cincinnana
11-16-2019, 10:18 PM
Does it work?:08:
mari@adams.net
11-16-2019, 10:51 PM
I'm guessing it does. I placed the end of the meter on the ground by the corm and if this temp is right, I'm guessing the corm may be okay (it's under the ground) but the 1 1/2' stump is probably not going to make it come spring. Our low temp did go down to about 9* last week and that temp is holding in the mulched area.....our temp today was about 50* and the meter is still reading 11*. So the mulching is holding the cold temps. Maybe that is good there isn't a lot of fluctuation cause our temps will eventually go back down to single digits soon.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65565&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65565&ppuser=27877)
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