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Pia
10-20-2017, 10:46 AM
I received photos of the parent plants of the banana I was given a few months back. My plants (their offspring) are still very young.
https://i2.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/dsc04973.jpg?ssl=1&w=450 https://i2.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/dsc04972.jpg?ssl=1&w=450 https://i1.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/20150403_091359.jpg?ssl=1&w=450 https://i0.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/20150403_091336.jpg?ssl=1&w=450 https://i1.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/20150403_091239.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

Thanks in advance for ID thoughts, the folks who gave me the pups are also interested in knowing which type they are. If geographical referencing helps - Salto, UY is near the river border with Argentina.
https://i0.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/screen-shot-2017-10-20-at-12-42-48.png?ssl=1&w=450

Pia
10-25-2017, 10:08 AM
I've asked the folks that gave me the banana what the fruit tastes and looks like on the inside, in case that might help people take a stab at identifying it.
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Danilo and Dahiana (banana owners) reported that: "The flavor is very sweet and tasty. I didn't know bananas could have seeds, I have not seen them. The skin is very thin. We will get you one in the near future."

Gabe15
10-26-2017, 12:23 AM
A bit hard to tell from the photos, the angles and lighting are a bit challenging, but looks to me like a type of Silk. Some common names for plants in this group include ‘Apple’, ‘Manzano’ and ‘Silk Fig’.

Pia
10-26-2017, 05:12 AM
Okay! Thanks for the feedback.
:08:

That gives me something to go on for personal research... I needed a starting point, there seemed, to me, to be so many possibilities and searching for Uruguay Banana types isn't helpful, not enough documentation from here.

I'll ask Danilo & Dahiana to get more photos of the family.

Pia
01-15-2018, 06:56 AM
I have more information about my banana now and a new photo of the fruit from the source and a recent photo of my banana, which is growing nicely.

"bien dulces, apenas ácidas y de cascara bien fina" = "sweet, just acidic and with a very fine shell"

https://i0.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/saltouybananafruit.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

https://i2.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/banana14jan-18.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

Pia
01-29-2018, 10:47 AM
Okay, I received three nanners that come from the same stock that I am growing. Upon tasting these ripe beauties I detected a slight tart or tangy apple flavor, the flesh is smooth and creamy. The skin is almost paper thin. Very small, but flavor packs a punch. Almost like ice cream. These photos taken a few minutes ago. Candy Apple? I'll go back to the ID links thread to narrow it down. But, if you know, please tell me, what have I got? :08:

https://i1.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/bananasize.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

https://i1.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/bananasize2.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

Pia
01-29-2018, 01:10 PM
In watching videos of people tending their Apple banana trees, I noted that the leaves on their plants don't have the red color on the leaf edge as mine does. Not an Apple banana? Or,maybe the videos just don't capture the color...
https://i0.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/rededge1.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

https://i2.wp.com/yesusi.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/rededge2.jpg?ssl=1&w=450

PiaJensen
10-24-2019, 10:16 AM
Hi, I'm Pia (lost access to my previous account). Though a neighbor's bananas are reported to never have produced fruit, mine did this year. :woohoonaner: they aren't as big as the parent plant's so I'll be adding more compost this year. The fruit is delicious, more flavorful as they ripen. Yummy.

Using the stalk of the harvested banana in garden section for salad produce. Ring around fennel with radish, cucumber, onion and leeks in outer ring. Cilantro planted in hole cut into banana stalk.

PiaJensen
10-24-2019, 10:29 AM
A bit hard to tell from the photos, the angles and lighting are a bit challenging, but looks to me like a type of Silk. Some common names for plants in this group include ‘Apple’, ‘Manzano’ and ‘Silk Fig’.

Harvested first bunch about a week ago. They are definitely one of the three you note, still trying to figure which one. Going to post new photos now.

Backyard Banana Joe
10-24-2019, 10:38 AM
I would agree with Gabe. (Especially since you said they taste like apple) Don’t forget to post pics!!!! Because..........:pics:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beam2050
10-24-2019, 11:14 AM
A bit hard to tell from the photos, the angles and lighting are a bit challenging, but looks to me like a type of Silk. Some common names for plants in this group include ‘Apple’, ‘Manzano’ and ‘Silk Fig’.

correct me if I am wrong!

while Manzano is also known as apple and silk fig...….but there are also many other cultivars that are known as apple and silk fig. but there are a number of cultivars in the known as apple and silk fig. while Brazilian is called also called apple but it is in the pome subgroup not silk.

it's like the lady finger that I bought from a member a number of years ago. the name lady finger is used on a number of different cultivars so I really do not know what I have. all I know about my ladyfinger is, it doesn't look like anything else that I have.

PiaJensen
10-24-2019, 11:23 AM
New pics taken over the last six or so months in my gallery now :08: Banana Gallery - PiaJensen Gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=31161)

Note: Perspective fixed and added more.

PiaJensen
10-24-2019, 12:09 PM
Found this reference that helps... I think mine are in the Pome subgroup... prolly these nanners originally from Brazil which is not far from here. Pome subgroup | The banana knowledge platform of the ProMusa network (http://www.promusa.org/Pome+subgroup?page_ref_id=89)

correct me if I am wrong!

while Manzano is also known as apple and silk fig...….but there are also many other cultivars that are known as apple and silk fig. but there are a number of cultivars in the known as apple and silk fig. while Brazilian is called also called apple but it is in the pome subgroup not silk.

it's like the lady finger that I bought from a member a number of years ago. the name lady finger is used on a number of different cultivars so I really do not know what I have. all I know about my ladyfinger is, it doesn't look like anything else that I have.

PiaJensen
10-24-2019, 01:26 PM
And then, there were three... separated two water suckers this afternoon. Will plant in front yard near lemongrass in a few hours. Pics in Banana Gallery - PiaJensen Gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=31161)

Changed my mind about the location. The original space not secure, too close to the road and prone to heavy winds. Pics show the transplanting process.

beam2050
10-25-2019, 09:23 AM
Found this reference that helps... I think mine are in the Pome subgroup... prolly these nanners originally from Brazil which is not far from here. Pome subgroup | The banana knowledge platform of the ProMusa network (http://www.promusa.org/Pome+subgroup?page_ref_id=89)

don't believe their the same. gabe knows his stuff.

yours.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65480&size=1

the one pictured on the thread you borrowed. the Brazilian.
look a bunch :ha: different. look at the part [rachis] hanging below the bananas

http://www.promusa.org/dl389?display&x=258&y=273

Backyard Banana Joe
10-25-2019, 09:54 AM
:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:

PiaJensen
10-25-2019, 11:37 AM
I was going on: "The fruit bunch develops at an angle while the rachis points vertically down" hadn't paid attention to the pic so, not in the pome subgroup...

don't believe their the same. gabe knows his stuff.

yours.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65480&size=1

the one pictured on the thread you borrowed. the Brazilian.
look a bunch :ha: different. look at the part [rachis] hanging below the bananas

http://www.promusa.org/dl389?display&x=258&y=273

PiaJensen
10-25-2019, 11:38 AM
That's not very helpful...

:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:

Backyard Banana Joe
10-25-2019, 12:05 PM
That's not very helpful...


Probably isn’t......😂🤣😂 Just thought it was funny that they look so different!😂 Not all apple bananas have a dirty rachis....... There are bananas that taste like apple growing wild in an empty lot that have clean rachis............. mabye they are Mysore or something............... :0517::drum:

PiaJensen
10-25-2019, 01:33 PM
Something, yes, mysore no - "green leafed with red midrib.
Undersides of leaves have pinkish, waxy coating." don't apply. And, Uruguay has strict import laws, so it's likely native or Brazilian.

beam2050
10-25-2019, 01:37 PM
And then, there were three... separated two water suckers this afternoon. Will plant in front yard near lemongrass in a few hours. Pics in Banana Gallery - PiaJensen Gallery (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=31161)

Changed my mind about the location. The original space not secure, too close to the road and prone to heavy winds. Pics show the transplanting process.

at this point and time your best bets are gabe and tytaylor for your id. might even know the history of what bananas have migrated over into your area over the centuries.

to help them give the diameter of the p-stem and the height from the ground to the stalk for your bananas where it comes out of the p-stem. also if you have any pictures of the flowers as the bananas first emerge. and put all relevant pics on one post in this thread.

PiaJensen
11-02-2019, 07:16 AM
Thanks, beam2050. When the rain let's up, will take some measurements. For now, here's a video of the three remaining after harvesting from the original nanner. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s633p0xrrk

And, my original account gallery in albums here (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=26582), Pia, has pics of the original owner's nanners. They are in Salto also. Here are the flower pics:

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65479&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65479&ppuser=31161)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65478&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65478&ppuser=31161)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65481&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65481&ppuser=31161)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65483&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65483&ppuser=31161)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65482&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65482&ppuser=31161)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65480&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65480&ppuser=31161)

The last pics were during winter here a few months back.

This is the original crowd that produced my nanner.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=65544&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=65544&ppuser=31161)
at this point and time your best bets are gabe and tytaylor for your id. might even know the history of what bananas have migrated over into your area over the centuries.

to help them give the diameter of the p-stem and the height from the ground to the stalk for your bananas where it comes out of the p-stem. also if you have any pictures of the flowers as the bananas first emerge. and put all relevant pics on one post in this thread.