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beam2050
06-12-2017, 09:55 AM
after various efforts to get a variegated namwa or 2, I went to ebay. found a seller with a variegated aeae, a bit pricy. the seller has a 100 rating and was out of texas. has pictures too, small plants. I bought one. .... I get a tracking no. from Puerto Rico not Texas. .... I get a message and the man says he has sent the plant and has given me a refund explaining he has some trouble with his paypal. .... wants me to send him money. .... ebay shows no refund, my paypal shows no record of the transaction and my bank shows no refund, but says it may take up to 10 days. ... now how does a man send me a refund but cant get onto his paypal. ... in numerous e-mails I assure the man that if I get a refund he will get his money. the man is persistent. ....here is what I got. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61846&size=1

Botanical_Bryce
06-12-2017, 10:19 AM
I went through a bunch of emails I think was the same person you are talking about. Constant problems and poor english. Same exact issues. Here is my last email with the person I did get the refund. I had to call ebay and paypal. Both said the person had the money and should have shipped. The person kept telling me they did not see my money. I ebay help me get my money back. I did get refunded.




Friend I refunded your 2 payment and send to my personal PayPal please send via payment and put is for banana because I not understand what happens please your banana out yesterday but if you can not make this no problem I refund anyway and reclaim the pkt back so please let me know if is ok to you please cheers

Botanical_Bryce
06-12-2017, 10:22 AM
In my account says not available only maybe is on first you vote I can refund ebay block me my balance for not complete and ship item and sorry but I can not send whitout payment so please is possible on first vote




Friend can vote please to desblock money I think when received vote no I send back vote the translation is complete please can you help

beam2050
06-12-2017, 10:33 AM
In my account says not available only maybe is on first you vote I can refund ebay block me my balance for not complete and ship item and sorry but I can not send whitout payment so please is possible on first vote




Friend can vote please to desblock money I think when received vote no I send back vote the translation is complete please can you help
yah. kind of looks the same. did not say vote and calls me friend a lot. his name is Alberto :2738:

edwmax
06-12-2017, 10:48 AM
Hummm ... Looks like the seller is trying to ripoff ebay & paypal's commissions by cancelling the order (thus your refund) then ask you to send payment directly to him.

Tell him, that you will not send money until the refund is confirmed by your bank. Then send copies of his email to eBay and paypal. Ask for their confirmation that a refund has been issued.

It's been several years, but my recollection paypal with-holds payments for 2 weeks or more before releasing to the seller and only after confirmation that goods have been shipped (& may be received). ... I my case for a low cost item, ebay & paypal's high commissions wasn't worth the trouble to sell.

which seller is this? he needs to be avoided.

beam2050
06-12-2017, 10:56 AM
Hummm ... Looks like the seller is trying to ripoff ebay & paypal's commissions by cancelling the order (thus your refund) then ask you to send payment directly to him.

Tell him, that you will not send money until the refund is confirmed by your bank. Then send copies of his email to eBay and paypal. Ask for their confirmation that a refund has been issued.

It's been several years, but my recollection paypal with-holds payments for 2 weeks or more before releasing to the seller and only after confirmation that goods have been shipped (& may be received). ... I my case for a low cost item, ebay & paypal's high commissions wasn't worth the trouble to sell.

which seller is this? he needs to be avoided.
all ready told him he would not get his money until the refund was confirmed. and I got the plant, that is the picture of it. thanks

HMelendez
06-12-2017, 11:03 AM
Thanks walkinbean, Botanical Bryce for sharing/posting the issue for other members to be aware!....



walkinbean,


Hopefully you get your issue resolved!.....




Ed,


As you mention, this seller needs to be avoided!.....

beam2050
06-12-2017, 11:11 AM
[QUOTE=HMelendez;306196]Thanks walkinbean, Botanical Bryce for sharing/posting the issue for other members to be aware!....



walkinbean,


Hopefully you get your issue resolved!.....




Ed,
thank you. well my e-bay says I have paid. but i do not know what i have none the less. looked healthy enough when i potted it, but right now it could be a cypess knee. :lurk:

edwmax
06-12-2017, 11:33 AM
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walkinbean,


Hopefully you get your issue resolved!.....




Ed,
thank you. well my e-bay says I have paid. but i do not know what i have none the less. looked healthy enough when i potted it, but right now it could be a cypess knee. :lurk:

Exactly, if he is ripping off ebay & paypal, then it is likely he is not sending the banana variety offered and you have no way to recover your payment if sent directly to the seller.

beam2050
06-12-2017, 11:50 AM
Exactly, if he is ripping of ebay & paypal, then it is likely he is not sending the banana variety offered and you have no way to recover your payment if sent directly to the seller.

truth

edwmax
06-12-2017, 11:51 AM
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Ed,
thank you. well my e-bay says I have paid. ... :lurk:

Oh ... I believe the seller has only a few days (???) after notice to confirm the order was shipped. So without the seller doing anything, ebay will cancel the order and refund your money.

Send copies of the emails & transaction number to ebay customer service.

PR-Giants
06-12-2017, 12:07 PM
thank you. se le pagara

I've talked to them but I certainly wouldn't buy anything from them.

They sent this to another member.

It's easy enough to ship quality and there's no excuse for people who ship crap.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=52652 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=52652)

Iowa
06-12-2017, 12:11 PM
SCAM, If he's having trouble with his PayPal it's his problem not yours, he needs to fix it. edwmax is right, you don't know what you got. If you pay with PayPal you have 6 months to get refunded if it is not what you paid for.

beam2050
06-12-2017, 12:17 PM
in his defense [for my plant] it looked to be en excellent condition newly dug up. wish i would have took a pic out of the box.

Botanical_Bryce
06-12-2017, 01:48 PM
I saw nothing that super alarmed me as far as theft. Just seemed to be a clueless person that I don't intend on buying from in the future. I did get my refund and best I can tell want me to just pay direct. I paid twice actually and needed 2 refunds. My first payment posted as an echeck and would not clear for several days. No idea why it went through that way. They said they wanted the money now so they could send so I sent through paypal using a credit card. The person then said they still did not get the money so I called ebay and ebay did confirm to me they were paid and did have my money and should be shipping. I take it from the jumbled word whatever you want to call it they were sending me that they sent the banana on good faith that I would pay direct. I should have had the plant by now so I doubt it was sent. But then again what could I understand from all of that mess?

beam2050
06-12-2017, 01:58 PM
I saw nothing that super alarmed me as far as theft. Just seemed to be a clueless person that I don't intend on buying from in the future. I did get my refund and best I can tell want me to just pay direct. I paid twice actually and needed 2 refunds. My first payment posted as an echeck and would not clear for several days. No idea why it went through that way. They said they wanted the money now so they could send so I sent through paypal using a credit card. The person then said they still did not get the money so I called ebay and ebay did confirm to me they were paid and did have my money and should be shipping. I take it from the jumbled word whatever you want to call it they were sending me that they sent the banana on good faith that I would pay direct. I should have had the plant by now so I doubt it was sent. But then again what could I understand from all of that mess?

i agree..a mess. and it is no crime to be computer illiterate. my worry now basically is how to pay him once i find i did get refunded and also how i will feel if he is actually paid and i cannot help him.

pukpukz
06-12-2017, 04:26 PM
Now those that fell for scam need to file a claim NOW on eBay .The Mans phone number is 939 307-7062 Hurry before you cannot get the Funds

Jamie p
06-12-2017, 05:01 PM
I bought a dwarf Gros Michel from PR Giant and the the plant is doing wonderfully ,so I would have no problem ordering from him in the future.

pukpukz
06-12-2017, 05:07 PM
i agree..a mess. and it is no crime to be computer illiterate. my worry now basically is how to pay him once i find i did get refunded and also how i will feel if he is actually paid and i cannot help him.
This is a scam he does not have what he is selling

a.hulva@coxinet.net
06-12-2017, 11:42 PM
yah. kind of looks the same. did not say vote and calls me friend a lot. his name is Alberto :2738:

Beam you right on. I have a horrible piece of trash. Same dude has promised to ship a replacement for two months. Lots of excuses. PM me if you like.
Al

beam2050
06-16-2017, 01:04 PM
I thank you all. I waited till today to respond to you, it has been over 10 days since I made my purchase. so now an update. I show no refund any where so I have just e-mailed him and told him he has the money. the last set of e-mails from him has been asking for a good rating. ... as far as the pup is concerned it still looks like a cypress knot. it has been turning a little blacker so I grabbed a large tray and started dumping out the potting soil from around it. it has lots of white roots coming from it 3 to 4 inches long [kinda looks like a porcupine] it was still firm. I was running just a hair high in moisture so mixed in some drier potting soil and filled it back in. so we will see what we see. :drum: thank you for your advice. pukpukz the last batch of corms are coming up nicely thank you.

a.hulva@coxinet.net
06-16-2017, 03:54 PM
The guys user name on eBay is artevivo_42012. For what it's worth my money went to Noemi Ahuertas thru Paypal. Can't contact the scum bag thru anything. The plant never moved at all. Hope this keeps others from fall into the same trap. This kind person hurts the reputable eBay sellers out there.

Iowa
06-16-2017, 06:57 PM
You can file a not as described case with eBay 30 days after delivery, if the seller wants it back they need to give you a return label. If it has been longer than that you have 180 days to file a case with PayPal.

beam2050
06-18-2017, 02:01 PM
You can file a not as described case with eBay 30 days after delivery, if the seller wants it back they need to give you a return label. If it has been longer than that you have 180 days to file a case with PayPal.

yah, now he has updated his site and says now it is not an aeae but a rare florida. wow. and he has been bugging me to give him a good rating so e-bay will give him his money. got 3 texts since I told him I did not get a refund. so I started off wanting to get a variegated namwa for cold tolerance settled for an aeae and ended up getting a variegated floridan. aint that some bull whack ahoowey. and still doent know if I even got that yet. still aint moved. makes you want to pull all the seeds out of a cavedish.

pukpukz
06-18-2017, 03:16 PM
I hate to be the one to tell you but if he sent you anything that you can not see it is variegated You can bet it is Not. He has scam so many that it is a big mess

beam2050
06-18-2017, 03:33 PM
I hate to be the one to tell you but if he sent you anything that you can not see it is variegated You can bet it is Not. He has scam so many that it is a big mess
it is a pup that has not produced leaves yet, it came about the size of a tennis ball. looks like a cypress knee.

pukpukz
06-18-2017, 04:06 PM
Don't look like the ones he was selling were not cut off for shipping . Looks like a chip that just broke ground and has no real roots. And the bad thing about it is not all pups will be variegated off the plant so how would he know what he was sending ???

beam2050
06-18-2017, 04:18 PM
he doesn't maybe don't care, maybe don't understand. I do not know. there is something greatly wrong about all this. shame. I know this one thing he is in a big hurry for me to give him a good rating.

Iowa
06-18-2017, 05:44 PM
yah, now he has updated his site and says now it is not an aeae but a rare florida. wow. and he has been bugging me to give him a good rating so e-bay will give him his money. got 3 texts since I told him I did not get a refund. so I started off wanting to get a variegated namwa for cold tolerance settled for an aeae and ended up getting a variegated floridan. aint that some bull whack ahoowey. and still doent know if I even got that yet. still aint moved. makes you want to pull all the seeds out of a cavedish.

Giving him good feedback has nothing to do with eBay giving him his money.

Tytaylor77
06-20-2017, 01:03 AM
Mine has a full leaf. The one I received is a variegated Musa Florida.

I'm still pretty upset about the whole deal. Haven't decided what feedback to leave. Not positive.
1- wrong plant. Paid for AEAE received Florida.
2- ships from PR. Listing says Texas. One of the reasons I bought it.
3- described plant with leaves. Received a leafless pup.
4- was emailed 100000 times mostly to leave feedback.

Pup is now healthy and growing. Somone with no or little banana growing experience would have trouble getting this pup to root and grow! I DO NOT recommend this seller. Even for the low price!

beam2050
06-20-2017, 07:44 AM
I am not going to leave any feedback. if I do it won't be positive.

Botanical_Bryce
06-20-2017, 09:07 AM
Everything here is identical to what I dealt with except user name. User name for mine was cheladaniel. It said to pick out in the picture the exact one you want then I pick and he said he does not have that one but many more like it. EBay has gone down the tubes.

pukpukz
06-20-2017, 10:57 AM
I would ask for a refund and leave feedback to warn others not to make the same mistakes

a.hulva@coxinet.net
06-20-2017, 11:48 AM
When I feel that I have been ligimately screwed by a scam artists. I have no mercy. I have made a major complaint against this jerk on eBay and Paypal. Hope this keeps some other unsuspecting customer the same experience.

beam2050
06-21-2017, 10:12 AM
1- wrong plant. Paid for AEAE received Florida.
2- ships from PR. Listing says Texas. One of the reasons I bought it.
3- described plant with leaves. Received a leafless pup.
4- was emailed 100000 times mostly to leave feedback.

yes that. almost 2 weeks and still has not started pushing. you know I almost did not buy it looking at the picture on the site. the plants were to small, I wanted something a little larger. also noticed on his updated site that he added pictures [the pics are still misleading] and his description. the description now says he is sending a bulb with no leaves. he has not changed his local but I do not remember the part that says [ships to the united states] almost seems reading his description that he is watching this thread.

beam2050
06-21-2017, 10:25 AM
Everything here is identical to what I dealt with except user name. User name for mine was cheladaniel. It said to pick out in the picture the exact one you want then I pick and he said he does not have that one but many more like it. EBay has gone down the tubes.

that is the user name on my site cheladaniel.

Botanical_Bryce
06-21-2017, 11:24 AM
I think Keith went next door and told him. Keith said he knows the guy

beam2050
07-16-2017, 02:09 PM
went fishing on the gulf for 2 weeks. when I left it had 1 small variegated leaf. it was about 4 inches high. came back today and this is what it looks like now. not what I wanted but she is very pretty.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61997&size=1

a.hulva@coxinet.net
07-16-2017, 03:45 PM
Looks fantastic. Go back out for another two weeks and you'll have a gen footer. ��

beam2050
07-16-2017, 03:54 PM
Looks fantastic. Go back out for another two weeks and you'll have a gen footer. ��

thanks I would do that. :ha: the wife would have a cow.

Tytaylor77
07-18-2017, 08:31 AM
Awesome job! These are risky and hard to start though! Congrats. I WOULD NOT recommend these for anyone!! Your taking a major risk buying these pups!