View Full Version : PR Morado, PR Verdin, Tigua and ARH Plantain Update!
HMelendez
04-30-2017, 09:00 AM
*****Update!*****
After almost 2 years for been trans-planted on the ground, PR Morado and PR Verdin are flowering!....
Kumunamba = Tigua is flowering!....Tigua took exactly 9 months from trans-planted to the ground to flowering!....Its remarkable for the size of Tigua to grow that fast comparing to other 'nanas varieties!....
There is an evaluation/study done years ago that mentioned Kumunamba as one of the best to grow in our conditions in South Florida!...
PR Morado, PR Verdin and Tigua are big, tall 'nana plants!...Approx. 14 to 15 ft. tall at flowering!....
*****Also, I'm one of the first forum members (maybe not the first one) to flower any of these 'nana varieties (PR Verdin, Tigua, PR Morado) in Continental US!.....A very nice accomplishment!*****:08:
All pictures taken on April 29, 2017!.....
TARS PR Cuerno De Alce (ARH Plantain)....Baseball bats!....LOL....Keeps fill-in really nice!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61423 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61423)
Musa PR Morado!....Very beautiful plant!.....Part of the red family 'nana variety (cold sensitive)!.....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61424 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61424)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61425 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61425)
Musa PR Verdin!....Also, part of the red family 'nana variety (cold sensitive)!....What a beauty!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61426 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61426)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61427 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61427)
Musa Kumunamba = Tigua!....Definitely a "monster grower!"....Also, a very beautiful 'nana plant!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61428 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61428)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61429 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61429)
Thank you for seeing the thread!.....
*****An update is coming soon!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:
Mark Dragt
04-30-2017, 09:30 AM
That's great Hector! There is going to be a large amount of bananas in your future. Please keep the updates coming as the fruit matures. Well done!
:woohoonaner:
HMelendez
04-30-2017, 10:05 AM
That's great Hector! There is going to be a large amount of bananas in your future. Please keep the updates coming as the fruit matures. Well done!
:woohoonaner:
Thank you Mark!.....
Also, The SH-3640 it should flower at any time now!....A very strong, stout 'nana plant!....I will post it here, as soon as she flowers/blooms!.....:08:
edwmax
04-30-2017, 10:40 AM
Great banana & pics! ... From your description of 'cold sensitive', I take it as these would not fruit and not likely to survive the winter here in 8b (9a micro) south Georgia.
HMelendez
04-30-2017, 11:26 AM
Great banana & pics! ... From your description of 'cold sensitive', I take it as these would not fruit and not likely to survive the winter here in 8b (9a micro) south Georgia.
Thanks Ed!
You are right!....As part as The Red Subgroup Family 'nana varieties (Tall Red, Dwarf Red, Jamaican Red, Cuban Red, etc.) they are very cold sensitive!....It is one of the first 'nana varieties that go dormant when temp. starting to drop!.... I'm not saying its not possible, but it will be a real challenge to grow (most likely won't survive the winter there) and then to flower/blooms in your area/zone!.....
Congratulations Hector. Nice bunches of bananas:woohoonaner::woohoonaner:
HMelendez
04-30-2017, 02:03 PM
Congratulations Hector. Nice bunches of bananas:woohoonaner::woohoonaner:
Thank you Susan!
Also, congrats to you for the awesome thread about the banana beer!......
edwmax
04-30-2017, 02:29 PM
Thanks Ed!
You are right!....As part as The Red Subgroup Family 'nana varieties (Tall Red, Dwarf Red, Jamaican Red, Cuban Red, etc.) they are very cold sensitive!....It is one of the first 'nana varieties that go dormant when temp. starting to drop!.... I'm not saying its not possible, but it will be a real challenge to grow (most likely won't survive the winter there) and then to flower/blooms in your area/zone!.....
I have a Dwarf Red that's about 16" tall after spending the winter in the ground here. Another Dwarf Red potted in the green house about ready to be set in the ground. ... Thanks for the info.
mushtaq86
04-30-2017, 02:35 PM
Congtarulatons Hector, are all these cooking varieties.keep the pictures coming in.:nanadrink:
HMelendez
04-30-2017, 02:50 PM
Congtarulatons Hector, are all these cooking varieties.keep the pictures coming in.:nanadrink:
Thank you Mushtaq!...
Musa PR Morado and Musa PR Verdin are considered dessert 'nana varieties......
Kumunamba = Tigua is considered a dessert and/or cooking 'nana variety......
TARS PR Cuerno De Alce (ARH Plantain) is considered a cooking 'nana (plantain) variety....
cincinnana
04-30-2017, 07:08 PM
Great pics ... and awesome plants ?
Tytaylor77
04-30-2017, 09:09 PM
Awesome Hector! I need you to come put the Midas Touch you have on some of mine. I can't wait to see that FHIA-3 Sweetheart I sent grow! Amazing how fast its growing! Thanks again for my package!
Hi
Congrats! I also got a pup Tigua but i thought it was a real fast grower and fruiter similar to the small Vente Cohol?
If it doesnt flower until it is 14 feet than I wont get any fruit this year from my small 3 feet who spent t the winter in my garage and has sprung 2 leaves since i put it in the ground..
crazy banana
05-01-2017, 12:13 AM
Thank you Mark!.....
Also, The SH-3640 it should flower at any time now!....A very strong, stout 'nana plant!....I will post it here, as soon as she flowers/blooms!.....:08:
I am particularly interested in seeing pictures of that one.
Congratulations on all those other varieties flowering at a great time.
Tytaylor77
05-01-2017, 01:26 AM
Hi
Congrats! I also got a pup Tigua but i thought it was a real fast grower and fruiter similar to the small Vente Cohol?
If it doesnt flower until it is 14 feet than I wont get any fruit this year from my small 3 feet who spent t the winter in my garage and has sprung 2 leaves since i put it in the ground..
Same here. I grew mine all last year. It reached about 12'-13' and pstem didn't make it through my worse than average winter. Veinte cohol is a winner for me. Patupi went dorment early with a flower. It seems fast. I will know more later in the year. I have several Tigua, Patupi, and VC in a race! Patupi does bloom short. 8' if I remember right.
Good luck with yours. I'll report my results later in the year.
HMelendez
05-01-2017, 04:43 AM
Great pics ... and awesome plants ?
Thank you Mike!.....
I saw your "original" reply!......Same camera!......LOL.....
HMelendez
05-01-2017, 05:06 AM
Thank you Ty, nph and Anke!....
nph,
Kumunamba = Tigua is a tall 'nana variety!...grows approx.. 12 to 15 ft. tall....
Anke (Crazy Banana),
Here are a couple of pictures of my SH-3640 'nana mat....I will keep posting pictures of The SH-3640 for sure!....If any of The SH-3640 flowers/blooms, I won't cut the flower bud!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61435 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61435)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61436 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61436)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61437 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61437)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61438 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61438)
Ty,
You welcome and thank you bro!....
Pictures of The FHIA-3 "King of Monster Growers Sweetheart!".....So far for me, The FHIA-3 is the fastest to grow from corm to the first leaf!....Its incredible!....I'm amazed!....
As Ty mentioned, he sent me a nice size FHIA-3 corm.....I received The FHIA-3 on April 21, 2017....Same day I trans-planted on a big pot around 12:00 P:M....Look at the picture!....It started to grow very fast from the beginning!...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61441 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61441)
FHIA-3 opened the first leaf on April 28, 2017.....In just 7 days after trans-planted!....Just amazing!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61442 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61442)
Pictures from April 30, 2017...Pushing out, opening the second leaf!...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61443 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61443)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61444 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61444)
*****Musa PR Morado Update!*****
Flower bud is positioning down!....Beautiful flower bud!....
Baseball bats (TARS ARH Plantain) on the background!....I was approx. 14ft. high looking up on my 20ft. extension ladder!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61439 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61439)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61440 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61440)
*****More updates are coming!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:
crazy banana
05-01-2017, 02:26 PM
Is the fruit bunch in the second photo supposed to be SH3640?
HMelendez
05-01-2017, 05:20 PM
Is the fruit bunch in the second photo supposed to be SH3640?
Anke,
The fruit bunch is from my Williams plant on the background still fill-in!.....Williams mat is on the left side of The SH-3640 mat!.....
HMelendez
05-03-2017, 06:59 AM
*****Musa Tigua (Kumunamba) Update!*****
Finally Tigua flower bud is pushing out!....Very beautiful flower bud!....Nice colors!...:08:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61450 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61450)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61451 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61451)
****An update is coming soon!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:
HMelendez
05-08-2017, 09:16 AM
*****Update!*****
Musa PR Morado flower finally opened!.....Very beautiful 'nana fingers!.....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61537 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61537&ppuser=19184)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61538 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61538&ppuser=19184)
Musa PR Verdin flower bud finally positioned down!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61536 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61536&ppuser=19184)
Tigua (Kumunamba) flower started to open!.....Big flower bud!....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61539 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61539&ppuser=19184)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61540 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61540&ppuser=19184)
*****More updates are coming soon!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:
AdotKarl
05-08-2017, 09:39 AM
Amazing! Thanks for sharing these great pictures! :bananas_b
HMelendez
05-08-2017, 09:44 AM
Amazing! Thanks for sharing these great pictures! :bananas_b
You welcome AdotKarl!.....
Kegas76
05-08-2017, 10:53 AM
*****Update!*****
Musa PR Morado flower finally opened!.....Very beautiful 'nana fingers!.....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61538 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61538&ppuser=19184)
In the shadows like that, they look like chocolate bananas!
HMelendez
05-10-2017, 06:34 AM
*****An Update!*****
Tigua (Kumunamba) opened 9 hands so far!.....A big bunch!....:08:
As the study/evaluation done years ago (Evaluation Of New Banana Germplasm In South Florida) and some experienced forum members suggest, Tigua (Kumunamba) is one of the best to grow in South Florida!....no doubts!.....
Pictures taken on May 9, 2017....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61546 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61546)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61545 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61545)
*****More updates coming soon!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:
PR-Giants
05-10-2017, 07:15 AM
Congrats Hector :goteam:
:woohoonaner:
Danounet
05-10-2017, 03:03 PM
Very nice! are those purples bananas or plantains?
HMelendez
05-10-2017, 03:48 PM
Thanks Keith & Danounet!
Danounet,
The purple ones are The PR Morado!.....They are part of The Red Subgroup Family banana varieties (PR Morado, Tall Red, Dwarf Red, Jamaican Red, Cuban Red, etc.)....
HMelendez
05-17-2017, 11:05 AM
*****Tigua (Kumunamba) Update!*****
A very nice size Tigua bunch!.....
Picture taken on May 16, 2017......
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61582 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61582)
*****More updates coming soon!*****:2723::bananarow::2723:
crazy banana
05-17-2017, 12:12 PM
I am following this not only for the photo updates. Please also consider to write taste descriptions after harvesting.
HMelendez
05-17-2017, 02:01 PM
I am following this not only for the photo updates. Please also consider to write taste descriptions after harvesting.
Thanks Anke!
Definitely, I will follow a taste report after harvesting!....
Mark Dragt
05-17-2017, 11:50 PM
Thanks for the amazing pictures Hector! You are going to have Banana Overload! Plants and bunches look great!
:nanadrink:
HMelendez
05-18-2017, 04:33 AM
Thanks for the amazing pictures Hector! You are going to have Banana Overload! Plants and bunches look great!
:nanadrink:
Thank you Mark bro!....
Tytaylor77
05-18-2017, 05:19 PM
Awesome Hector! Amazing bunch as always!
HMelendez
08-18-2017, 09:24 AM
*****PR Morado And PR Verdin Update!*****
Woohoo!.....I finally harvested my first PR Morado and PR Verdin bunch yesterday, August 17, 2017....Both bunches has been fill-in very nicely!....Look at the size of the 'Nana fingers!.....
All pictures from 08/17/2017.....
PR Morado & PR Verdin bunch......
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62145 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62145)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62150 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62150)
PR Morado bunch....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62148 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62148)
PR Verdin bunch....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62149 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62149)
Thanks for seeing/following the thread!.....:2723::bananarow::2723:
sputinc7
08-18-2017, 11:34 AM
Awesome... Just awesome.
beam2050
08-18-2017, 12:01 PM
Awesome... Just awesome.
I concur. the mans in banana heaven.
robguz24
08-18-2017, 11:08 PM
Curious to hear what you think of the taste of the two types of reds. I prefer the green reds.
Tytaylor77
08-19-2017, 01:43 AM
Wow that is amazing to have both of them at the same time! I can't wait to hear which you like better! How long was planting to harvest? I've read both have extremely long cycles!
You don't see many Verdin bunches!!! Your very lucky bro! You must have a half red/half green thumb! Lmao.
HMelendez
08-19-2017, 04:44 AM
Awesome... Just awesome.
Thank you Steve!......
I concur. the mans in banana heaven.
Thank you walkinbeam!.....
Curious to hear what you think of the taste of the two types of reds. I prefer the green reds.
Rob,
I will follow on which one I prefer!......
HMelendez
08-19-2017, 06:08 AM
Wow that is amazing to have both of them at the same time! I can't wait to hear which you like better! How long was planting to harvest? I've read both have extremely long cycles!
You don't see many Verdin bunches!!! Your very lucky bro! You must have a half red/half green thumb! Lmao.
Thanks Ty bro!....
You are right!....There is only a handful of members/people currently growing the PR Verdin!....Vey rare 'Nana variety!.....In my growing conditions, PR Morado and PR Verdin, took almost 2 years from planting to flowering/blooming, then almost 4 months from flowering/blooming to harvest time!......I will follow on which one I like better!...
Half red/half green thumb!.....LMAO!......:ha:
Mark Dragt
08-23-2017, 11:34 PM
Can't wait to hear how the taste is. Great bunches Bro!
edwmax
08-24-2017, 06:13 AM
Please update the Wiki with your comments, pictures, and link to this thread. ...:nanadrink:
HMelendez
08-27-2017, 07:27 AM
Can't wait to hear how the taste is. Great bunches Bro!
Thank you Mark, bro!.....
*****PR Morado & PR Verdin taste report!*****
from left to right: A double PR Morado 'Nana & PR Verdin 'Nana!.....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62209 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62209)
PR Morado 'Nana......
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62210 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62210)
PR Verdin 'Nana....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62211 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62211)
Woohoo!......PR Morado & PR Verdin are a very, very good 'Nana varieties!....I let both 'Nana varieties to get on the perfect stage of ripen, not to green, not to ripe (brown marks)....As I expected from the Red subgroup 'Nana varieties, the right sweetness, a creamy and firm 'Nana!.....Creamy on the outer layer getting firm in the inner section!.....A very small hint of tartness!.....I considered both 'Nanas, a much, much better in taste than a Cavendish or a Namwah 'Nana varieties!......
The winner is!......Is a draw!......No winner in the taste contest!....LOL!......Both 'Nana varieties are very similar in taste!...Equally awesome taste for both!....Definitely up there with the best!....
I always wondered why the PR Verdin 'Nana when it's put up to a 'Nana contest, always come, as one of the best 'Nana varieties in taste!.....Also, has been mentioned before, with years, the PR Morado can mutate to a PR Verdin!.....I think that is a factor of the similarity in taste!.....
Thanks for seeing/following the thread!.....:2723::bananarow::2723:
HMelendez
08-27-2017, 07:28 AM
Please update the Wiki with your comments, pictures, and link to this thread. ...:nanadrink:
I will Ed!....
Tytaylor77
08-27-2017, 12:58 PM
Wow! Thank you for updating all of us who can't grow these super long cycle amazing red bananas! Seriously made me hungry for a good banana. Unfortunaly I have to eat this cavendish closing my eyes and pretending it's a PR Verdin.
Seriously thank you so much for taking the time to give a report on this crazy rare variety! I doubt 5 people in the US grow the PR Verdin. Amazing to actually see fruit from it!!
PR-Giants
08-27-2017, 02:36 PM
Nice double :woohoonaner:
They are both in the Red subgroup.
I've never had a green to red but red to green is very common.
Thanks for the great pics Hector bro
Thank you Mark, bro!.....
*****PR Morado & PR Verdin taste report!*****
from left to right: A double PR Morado 'Nana & PR Verdin 'Nana!.....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62209 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62209)
PR Morado 'Nana......
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62210 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62210)
PR Verdin 'Nana....
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=62211 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=62211)
Woohoo!......PR Morado & PR Verdin are a very, very good 'Nana varieties!....I let both 'Nana varieties to get on the perfect stage of ripen, not to green, not to ripe (brown marks)....As I expected from the Red subgroup 'Nana varieties, the right sweetness, a creamy and firm 'Nana!.....Creamy on the outer layer getting firm in the inner section!.....A very small hint of tartness!.....I considered both 'Nanas, a much, much better in taste than a Cavendish or a Namwah 'Nana varieties!......
The winner is!......Is a draw!......No winner in the taste contest!....LOL!......Both 'Nana varieties are very similar in taste!...Equally awesome taste for both!....Definitely up there with the best!....
I always wondered why the PR Verdin 'Nana when it's put up to a 'Nana contest, always come, as one of the best 'Nana varieties in taste!.....Also, has been mentioned before, with years, the PR Morado can mutate to a PR Verdin!.....I think that is a factor of the similarity in taste!.....
Thanks for seeing/following the thread!.....:2723::bananarow::2723:
Mark Dragt
08-27-2017, 11:34 PM
Thanks for the report Hector. I am glad the taste was worth the waite. Those bananas were a reward for all your hard work tending your plants. Well done!
:woohoonaner:
HMelendez
08-28-2017, 07:16 AM
Thank you Ty, Keith and Mark!.......Thank you so much for the comments!.....
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