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nucci60
06-01-2008, 09:01 AM
:bananarow:One of my basjoos is growing from the center of last years pseudostem, but the other died to the ground and is sending up about seven pups.Some are over a foot (stem) tall now.If I left everything alone, would it it the decrease the height of the plants? I don't want to damage the main corm by separating any at this point. I wouldn't mind a big mat, but I want some height also.My success rate of separating pups is about 30%.
Randy4ut
06-01-2008, 09:38 AM
I, personally, would leave them alone. If you don't mind a larger mat, they would probably do fine as is and not affect the height. If you take pups, I would think the plant would spend more energy "healing" itself and that may hamper overall growth. I would pump the fert to them and water, water, water!!! Good luck...
nucci60
06-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Thanks Randy, this stuff sure is fun!
mskitty38583
06-01-2008, 10:37 AM
yes this stuff is great and fun...but it is also nerve racking! when i go outside to look at my nanas all i keep thinking is grow,grow,grow.
Kylie2x
06-01-2008, 12:04 PM
You and me both MissKitty...LOL
magicgreen
06-01-2008, 09:38 PM
Isn't that something!
I was outside in the garden all day today working; and all I thought and said was.........
Grow grow grow!
mskitty38583
06-01-2008, 11:30 PM
isnt it amazing how great minds think alike?:volleyballnaner:
magicgreen
06-01-2008, 11:42 PM
Sure you right!!!!!!
nucci60
06-14-2008, 09:22 AM
Magicgreen, Iam in zone 6 also. With our short growing season we look for daily growth and hope for sweltering weather,LOL
chong
06-14-2008, 02:04 PM
Magicgreen, Iam in zone 6 also. With our short growing season we look for daily growth and hope for sweltering weather,LOL
We're in Zone 8-9 in Seattle, though we probably have a shorter growing season than where you guys are. And we, too, hope for sweltering weather, though we never have it. We would be lucky if we even get a full week of 80°F weather.
nucci60
06-15-2008, 10:42 AM
...but you can grow large windmill palms and other goodys Chong. LOL:03:
Lodewijkp
06-15-2008, 11:46 AM
i always talk to my plants.
the washingtonia.F i talk to grows alot faster then others, my nana does not grow fast at all maybe he does not like me lol
nucci60
06-15-2008, 12:20 PM
misskitty, "you put the lime in the coconut" was written and performed by Harry Nillson
chong
06-15-2008, 01:05 PM
...but you can grow large windmill palms and other goodys Chong. LOL:03:
The keyword is "large". If I were to plant small plants, they wouldn't last the first winter.
nucci60
06-17-2008, 10:08 AM
Wow Chong, I thought Trachys thrived in your area. You see big specimens in Vancouver. They seem to like the cooler winter. We have them come back in zone 6 with protection.
mskitty38583
06-17-2008, 11:34 AM
misskitty, "you put the lime in the coconut" was written and performed by Harry Nillson
yes thats true, but jimmy buffet did a remix of it. and im a jimmy buffet freak.
chong
06-17-2008, 12:09 PM
Wow Chong, I thought Trachys thrived in your area. You see big specimens in Vancouver. They seem to like the cooler winter. We have them come back in zone 6 with protection.
You are correct. I had it confused with Washingtonia palm. They look alike. Trachycarpus fortunei hardiness is listed as 7b to 10. I thought that Vancouver (either WA or BC) was in Zone 8.
Randy4ut
06-17-2008, 12:52 PM
You are correct. I had it confused with Washingtonia palm. They look alike. Trachycarpus fortunei hardiness is listed as 7b to 10. I thought that Vancouver (either WA or BC) was in Zone 8.
Ouch, Chong!!! You sure know how to hurt a palm fanatic like myself... Take a good closer look at both the Trachy and the Washy. HUGE difference...
chong
06-17-2008, 02:30 PM
Ouch, Chong!!! You sure know how to hurt a palm fanatic like myself... Take a good closer look at both the Trachy and the Washy. HUGE difference...
S-o-o-o-r-r-y! I guess I should take a closer look. Just that in my neck of the woods, I don't see very many of them. Plus, my wife dreads the sawblade like petioles of these plants.
My closest, if not intimate, encounters with palms have only been with the following varieties: cocos nucifera, corypha elata, arenga pinnata, nypa fruticans, phoenix dactylifera, and phoenix roebelenii. The first five of which are food plants, of which in turn, 4 have uses for housing, clothing, and crafts where I come from. The last one is strictly decorative.
I don't know if you know that Corypha Elata is a very large fan palm that lives like the banana, in the, after bearing fruit it dies. The nuts are like huge clusters of grapes, each about the size of a large grape. The shell is tough but easy to crack with a sharp knife. The meat of the nut is white like the coconut and is delicious. Though I guess not as delicious as the pulp of the Phoenix Dactylifera.
Randy4ut
06-17-2008, 04:03 PM
S-o-o-o-r-r-y! I guess I should take a closer look. Just that in my neck of the woods, I don't see very many of them. Plus, my wife dreads the sawblade like petioles of these plants.
My closest, if not intimate, encounters with palms have only been with the following varieties: cocos nucifera, corypha elata, arenga pinnata, nypa fruticans, phoenix dactylifera, and phoenix roebelenii. The first five of which are food plants, of which in turn, 4 have uses for housing, clothing, and crafts where I come from. The last one is strictly decorative.
I don't know if you know that Corypha Elata is a very large fan palm that lives like the banana, in the, after bearing fruit it dies. The nuts are like huge clusters of grapes, each about the size of a large grape. The shell is tough but easy to crack with a sharp knife. The meat of the nut is white like the coconut and is delicious. Though I guess not as delicious as the pulp of the Phoenix Dactylifera.
I have heard of the Corypha and in my opinion, one beautiful palm. You mentioned that your wife does not like the sawlike petioles on this type of plant, well, you are in luck as the Trachycarpus do not have ANY teeth on the petioles. This is the first year mine are setting seed as I was lucky enough when I purchased them in 2005 to get a male and a female. They are wonderful palms and you really need to check into them and get a few...
chong
06-17-2008, 05:13 PM
I have heard of the Corypha and in my opinion, one beautiful palm. You mentioned that your wife does not like the sawlike petioles on this type of plant, well, you are in luck as the Trachycarpus do not have ANY teeth on the petioles. This is the first year mine are setting seed as I was lucky enough when I purchased them in 2005 to get a male and a female. They are wonderful palms and you really need to check into them and get a few...
Corypha has a very large trunk that can be as much as 5-ft in diameter. Terminal height can get to as much as 70 feet. Natural wine is derived from the nectar that is collected from tips of unopened flower buds. Hollowed out 4-foot bamboo sections are hung from the tree, with the cut tip of the flower bud in the mouth of the bamboo container. This wine turns to vinegar if left in the container past 11 AM. Most people who collect them from Corypha actually do so for vinegar production. The sweetest wine comes from Cocos, followed by Arenga and then Nypa.
The material used as roofing and exterior wall in the years past is from Nypa leaves. It is the most resistant to weathering. Properly woven and installed, this material has withstood Category I hurricanes. It has many advantages, but the biggest disadvantage is that they are very susceptible to fire. My Grandmother's original house was made of Nypa roof, walls and windows (the closure or shutter), Rosewood for mainframe, and bamboo slat flooring (see through). In a hot and humid place like the Philippines, this type of construction was great because it allowed air circulation. Though privacy with floor slats can be an issue, particularly when the floor is elevated 5 or 6 feet from the ground to keep the house from floods. Man, I miss those simple days. Sadly, my Grandmother's original house burned down several years after I moved to the US.
Trachycarpus fortunei is my next quest!
Randy4ut
06-17-2008, 05:37 PM
Wow, good lesson on the Corypha, and I thought I knew about this palm!!! Anyway, if you need a good source for a Trachy fortuneii or wagnerianus, or a hybrid of the two, I know a gentleman kinda near you on Salt Springs Island, BC that could probably be of help...
nucci60
06-18-2008, 03:18 PM
Chong if you like the "feather" palms better, you may be able to grow a pindo palm in the Seattle area. They are about the most cold hardy of the feathers.Either way you are lucky to be able to grow a good size one.Good luck.
Randy4ut
06-18-2008, 06:30 PM
Nucci,
I love pindos (Butias) and have 3 myself, but they do have "teeth" on them that Chong said his wife despises... That was the reason I was trying to push the Trachy. I think the Butia is probably one of my favorites... Good idea for the PNW... Little worried about cold moisture with them is the only concern I would have...
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