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MBindy2000
09-25-2016, 07:26 AM
I'll start by saying I live in Indiana and in the coming weeks I will have to start winterizing my banana plants. Well, I got the idea of expanding my tropical garden for next year and want to move a couple of my plants from where they are to the new area of the garden. So my question is should I just dig them up and let them rest over the winter or could I transplant them to the new area now to let the root system establish and then winterize it with mulch, straw, and bags in a few weeks?
sputinc7
09-25-2016, 12:37 PM
If they are basjoo, leave them where they are and move in spring. If not Basjoo, you will be digging them and bringing them in anyway or they will die.
Dividing perennials in fall or spring was a natural when I lived in MD with a zone of 6 or 7; doing that in a 5 or lower, which I assume is what you have, is generally considered a spring or even early summer activity. (I worked as a landscaper in the Akron area and cringed when told to move "stuff" as late as August; usually worked there with adequate water but would have burnt up where I lived in MD.) What kind of bananas are you growing? That would, as Steve said, have an huge impact on your plans for this season or next year.
MBindy2000
09-26-2016, 09:20 AM
Thank you Sputinc7 and Kat2 for the advice I needed. Indianapolis is just at 6a zone. I accept that knowing just twenty miles north of me is 5b. Probably the rural farm flat land where nothing stops the wind in the winter. Where I live in the city where things seem to be a little warmer.
I have three Musa Bajoos, One red banana and three Nepal. I grew those from seeds that I bought from Seedmans site. I bought ten seeds call Giant Nepal Bananas and got three so that was good. Anyway, I figure to dig those and red banana up to rest of the winter and will bag the others. and move them into new places next spring. Yesterday I expanded my garden from five feet by sixteen feet to 31 feet by 16. I hope to not touch a shove again LOL it was hard work.
OT anyone ever have problems posting pictures? Every time I do the site says photos download good or to that effect and I never can see the pix. I don't understand?
Thanks again
sputinc7
09-26-2016, 02:35 PM
My guess is your pics are too large. You need to compress them. There should be a box with the word "process" in red and you click that. If you don't get the process page, they are not uploading.
MBindy2000
09-27-2016, 06:45 AM
My guess is your pics are too large. You need to compress them. There should be a box with the word "process" in red and you click that. If you don't get the process page, they are not uploading.
I'll pay attention to the sizes of the photos. I have a lot I would love to share.
a.hulva@coxinet.net
09-27-2016, 11:08 PM
I have over wintered a bunch of different varieties bare rooted in burlap bags in my heated gagage with great success. I have also had good success leaving them in the ground. Bare rooting is good for larger plants. Stems of three feet or more is preferred. Leaving them in the ground is a little more tricky. Protecting from freezing is not the biggest problem. Keep the corm reasonably dry is difficult. This is just my experience. Your weather definitely presents a big challenge. If you want more discussion send PM.
MBindy2000
09-29-2016, 08:18 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60667&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60667&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60666&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60666&ppuser=22059)
First of all I like to give a big THANKS:goteam: Sputinc7 for suggested that I resize my photos! Now that I understand how to do that I have all kinds of photos to share.
So, what is going on in these photos above is a transplant that I did back in August. The area had tons of Iris' that needed to be moved and given away. This lovely was up against my fence on the other side of my yard and was taking a beating so I decided to move it. I was a little worried it might now like the move. I didn't like it very well at first as all the leafs basically wilted. I removed them and used them to compost. Weeks late you can see it has rebounded well. It will be a wonderful plant come next summer.
MBindy2000
09-29-2016, 09:04 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60662&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60662&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60663&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60663&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60660&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60660&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60661&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60661&ppuser=22059)
This is how I winterized my banana plant last year and plan on doing the same thing this winter. You tube is a wonderful place to learn this kind of stuff. I had worried by doing this I was copycatting guys from Canada(Vancouver). Nothing against them but I worried more about having no idea of what their zone was. I don't believe its similar to Indianapolis since its off the Ocean and that could make it warmer. At any rate this worked for me. This plant is a monster this year :08:
Denverian
09-29-2016, 11:36 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60662&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60662&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60663&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60663&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60660&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60660&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60661&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60661&ppuser=22059)
This is how I winterized my banana plant last year and plan on doing the same thing this winter. You tube is a wonderful place to learn this kind of stuff. I had worried by doing this I was copycatting guys from Canada(Vancouver). Nothing against them but I worried more about having no idea of what their zone was. I don't believe its similar to Indianapolis since its off the Ocean and that could make it warmer. At any rate this worked for me. This plant is a monster this year :08:
Great pictures! If you got this to survive a winter in Indy, your method should work for me in Denver! What's between the p-stem and the bubble wrap??
MBindy2000
09-29-2016, 12:06 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60670&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60670)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60664&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60664&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60665&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60665&ppuser=22059)
First picture shows what the plant looked like after I took all the wrapping off. I was a little distraught when I saw the slimy mess. I pulled all the dead off to the point where I found new growth so that was releaving. The following pics are of the same plant growing nicely. I'm depressed I have to bring it down here in a few weeks.
To Denverian. I put the bubble wrap over the stump directly. Bubbles inside. That gives it a little area to breath. Then I pack the bottom with mulch and the use hay and a couple of bags to keep it warm. So far so good. I hope it works for you too
Denverian
09-29-2016, 01:56 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60670&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60670)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60664&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60664&ppuser=22059)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60665&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60665&ppuser=22059)
First picture shows what the plant looked like after I took all the wrapping off. I was a little distraught when I saw the slimy mess. I pulled all the dead off to the point where I found new growth so that was releaving. The following pics are of the same plant growing nicely. I'm depressed I have to bring it down here in a few weeks.
To Denverian. I put the bubble wrap over the stump directly. Bubbles inside. That gives it a little area to breath. Then I pack the bottom with mulch and the use hay and a couple of bags to keep it warm. So far so good. I hope it works for you too
Thanks! I just used bubble wrap alone last winter, and the p-stem didn't make it. The plant itself shot up new growth, but just little "pups" that only grew to about 3' high. How did yours get so huge?? Have they been there multiple years?
I bought a new one this spring and it's around 7' to the top leaf right now. Nice, but not huge.
MBindy2000
09-29-2016, 02:39 PM
Denverian,
I really didn't do anything special. My yard is pretty small so I don't have space for a compost pile so I did the bucket composting. That way I have been pouring the compost tea onto the plant. It just loves it. I also have been spreading the compost itself over the other plants in the garden. This plant and the other bananas have gone bananas HA with pups and growth. I fertilized once way back in June and basically watered when I hasn't rained. We have gotten quite a bit of rain this summer too. I could say I'm lucky because last winter was pretty mild. Our late January into February's can get down into 10s and it pretty much stayed in the 20s. I hope that info helps.
Mike
Denverian
09-29-2016, 03:31 PM
Denverian,
I really didn't do anything special. My yard is pretty small so I don't have space for a compost pile so I did the bucket composting. That way I have been pouring the compost tea onto the plant. It just loves it. I also have been spreading the compost itself over the other plants in the garden. This plant and the other bananas have gone bananas HA with pups and growth. I fertilized once way back in June and basically watered when I hasn't rained. We have gotten quite a bit of rain this summer too. I could say I'm lucky because last winter was pretty mild. Our late January into February's can get down into 10s and it pretty much stayed in the 20s. I hope that info helps.
Mike
Temperature wise, we had a mild winter too. But we can get a little below zero a time or 3 most winters.
I have horrible clay soil, so that could be part of it. What came back from the old plant is really nothing to be thrilled about. I do fertilize regularly all summer, and the one new plant grew impressively (compared to other varieties I've tried) for our short growing season. I planted it in early May when it was probably 3' tall, now around 7'. Our first frost could be anytime from now to early November, so it's a crap shoot this time of year.
I wonder if the Basjoos need more humidity to thrive? We really don't have much in Denver. But then I successfully grew huge bananas in Southern California and it's not humid there either. And similar to SoCal, Denver summer nights are cool (in the low 60s typically).
MBindy2000
09-29-2016, 03:56 PM
Temperature wise, we had a mild winter too. But we can get a little below zero a time or 3 most winters.
I have horrible clay soil, so that could be part of it. What came back from the old plant is really nothing to be thrilled about. I do fertilize regularly all summer, and the one new plant grew impressively (compared to other varieties I've tried) for our short growing season. I planted it in early May when it was probably 3' tall, now around 7'. Our first frost could be anytime from now to early November, so it's a crap shoot this time of year.
I wonder if the Basjoos need more humidity to thrive? We really don't have much in Denver. But then I successfully grew huge bananas in Southern California and it's not humid there either. And similar to SoCal, Denver summer nights are cool (in the low 60s typically).
It gets pretty humid here. Earlier this week if felt like mid august not the end of September. Our first frost will be here before I know it also. Generally happens a week before Halloween.
Denverian
10-05-2016, 11:44 AM
It gets pretty humid here. Earlier this week if felt like mid august not the end of September. Our first frost will be here before I know it also. Generally happens a week before Halloween.
I put a tarp over mine last night (and the elephant ears) as we had a frost warning. However, it didn't frost. We have a couple more "close nights" coming, so I'll keep everything covered. Forecast calls for a long stretch well above freezing starting this weekend, so I figured I'd save things. Last year, everything made it until a week into November before being frozen.
I still need to go get insulation to wrap the trunk.
MBindy2000
10-06-2016, 09:19 AM
I put a tarp over mine last night (and the elephant ears) as we had a frost warning. However, it didn't frost. We have a couple more "close nights" coming, so I'll keep everything covered. Forecast calls for a long stretch well above freezing starting this weekend, so I figured I'd save things. Last year, everything made it until a week into November before being frozen.
I still need to go get insulation to wrap the trunk.
you never know about frost. Its almost like the weatherguys are crying wolf. After a while of their nonsense I've learned to figure out the weather myself. Its also something to not worry too much about. The corm wont freeze from a frost, of course the plants will look bad but that's the indicator of them saying the season is over :( As for insulating the trunks I get my bubbles at work but I believe you can get them at Lowes, home depot, menards, etc. Mulch is another key thing to get. Use lots of it.
a.hulva@coxinet.net
10-06-2016, 01:43 PM
I put a tarp over mine last night (and the elephant ears) as we had a frost warning. However, it didn't frost. We have a couple more "close nights" coming, so I'll keep everything covered. Forecast calls for a long stretch well above freezing starting this weekend, so I figured I'd save things. Last year, everything made it until a week into November before being frozen.
I still need to go get insulation to wrap the trunk.
What kind of insulation do you use around the stem?
Denverian
10-06-2016, 03:09 PM
What kind of insulation do you use around the stem?
This year, I'm going to try regular house insulation. Looks like a roll is $20 or so. Then wrap that in bubble wrap, then plastic over that to keep water out. Then mulch heavily all around.
MBindy2000
10-08-2016, 10:59 AM
This year, I'm going to try regular house insulation. Looks like a roll is $20 or so. Then wrap that in bubble wrap, then plastic over that to keep water out. Then mulch heavily all around.
Interesting. Sounds like a good idea. I look forward to seeing your results next spring.
Denverian
10-10-2016, 09:43 AM
Interesting. Sounds like a good idea. I look forward to seeing your results next spring.
I need to get pictures on here! We ended up having one light frost last week, but I covered the Bananas and elephant ears, and they're all fine. No threat of frost or cold this week.
MBindy2000
10-12-2016, 09:15 AM
I need to get pictures on here! We ended up having one light frost last week, but I covered the Bananas and elephant ears, and they're all fine. No threat of frost or cold this week.
Frost is an indicator that its time to cut them down or dig them up. The plants(corm) needs to be protected from the deep freeze. Everything we see ends up going to waste unless if we live in warm places such as Florida, Gulf Coast, or So Cal. where our issue would be no big deal.
Post some pix, I'd like to see your garden. :goteam:
Denverian
10-14-2016, 10:57 AM
Frost is an indicator that its time to cut them down or dig them up. The plants(corm) needs to be protected from the deep freeze. Everything we see ends up going to waste unless if we live in warm places such as Florida, Gulf Coast, or So Cal. where our issue would be no big deal.
Post some pix, I'd like to see your garden. :goteam:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60733><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60733&size=1 border=0></a>
Denverian
10-14-2016, 10:59 AM
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60733><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60733&size=1 border=0></a>
Ah! There we go. I finally got a picture up!
Still no hard freeze in Denver. It's supposed to be 85 today, 80s for the next few days, so I'm still enjoying all of this.
Denverian
10-14-2016, 11:08 AM
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60734&ppuser=22877><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60734&size=1 border=0></a>
Here's a view from the front. Just to the left of the larger Musa, you can see where last year's Musa grew up from nothing, after surviving the winter. But not any real impressive growth there.
MBindy2000
10-14-2016, 07:59 PM
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60734&ppuser=22877><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60734&size=1 border=0></a>
Here's a view from the front. Just to the left of the larger Musa, you can see where last year's Musa grew up from nothing, after surviving the winter. But not any real impressive growth there.
Thanks for posting the pictures. I like your garden. :08:
MBindy2000
10-18-2016, 08:59 AM
Really abnormal warmth here in Speedway. Its not suppose to be 80 degrees this late into October. Well I'm taking the end of the week off to do what I don't want to do and that's winterize the bananas and other tropical plants. Such a bummer, but I know next year will be here before I know it. When I hear race cars roaring over at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway I'll know its time to fire up the garden all over again :08: I'll post picks of D-Day, even bigger bummer its suppose to rain.
cincinnana
10-18-2016, 09:43 PM
http://www.bananas.org/f15/do-you-have-protect-musa-basjoo-46632.html
MBindy2000
10-21-2016, 07:27 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60754&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60754&ppuser=22059)
Sad day in the rain HA They'll be back bigger and better next year.
beam2050
10-21-2016, 07:37 AM
looks like your going to war.
Denverian
10-21-2016, 12:29 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60754&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60754&ppuser=22059)
Sad day in the rain HA They'll be back bigger and better next year.
Did they freeze already? Mine were hit with about 32 degrees the last two early mornings. I'll chop it this weekend.
Do you immediately wrap the p-stems? Or let them sit for a while first? My thought is that as long as temps aren't dropping into the 20s, it's ok to not be wrapped. Maybe sends it into dormancy? I've let my Elephant Ears be exposed to mid or low 20s before digging up the bulbs, and they've always been ok.
Side note: Once of my neighbors has Elephant Ears and the ones near the SE corner of his house have come back without digging them up or even mulching. I think they're a lot more cold hardy than I thought. Same with his Cannas... they all come back with no mulch. Being near the south or east side of the house keeps them warm enough in winter.
MBindy2000
10-22-2016, 12:09 PM
Did they freeze already? Mine were hit with about 32 degrees the last two early mornings. I'll chop it this weekend.
Do you immediately wrap the p-stems? Or let them sit for a while first? My thought is that as long as temps aren't dropping into the 20s, it's ok to not be wrapped. Maybe sends it into dormancy? I've let my Elephant Ears be exposed to mid or low 20s before digging up the bulbs, and they've always been ok.
Side note: Once of my neighbors has Elephant Ears and the ones near the SE corner of his house have come back without digging them up or even mulching. I think they're a lot more cold hardy than I thought. Same with his Cannas... they all come back with no mulch. Being near the south or east side of the house keeps them warm enough in winter.
the cannas and elephant ears are little more hardier. We haven't had a frost yet. I was a little worried last night. it was suppose to get down to 35. It didn't get that cold thankfully. Anyway I generally dig mine up that way I can place them in different places. Now the bananas are different story because of their size. Although in the spring I will transplant a couple of my bananas to different areas of the garden. IF you are going do the bubble wrap do that after you mulch the bottom. I decided to not go that route this year. I cut my bananas down to about six inches and covered them with a couple of bags of mulch for each plant. A couple of guys on this site suggest getting away from the bubble wrapping. I was thinking about it and thought back to what the plant looked like after I unwrapped it. It was a sloppy mess all the way to the ground. So I might as well start from the ground.
cincinnana
10-23-2016, 09:00 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60754&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60754&ppuser=22059)
Sad day in the rain HA They'll be back bigger and better next year.
That is one big plant......:08:
Denverian
10-24-2016, 10:14 AM
the cannas and elephant ears are little more hardier. We haven't had a frost yet. I was a little worried last night. it was suppose to get down to 35. It didn't get that cold thankfully. Anyway I generally dig mine up that way I can place them in different places. Now the bananas are different story because of their size. Although in the spring I will transplant a couple of my bananas to different areas of the garden. IF you are going do the bubble wrap do that after you mulch the bottom. I decided to not go that route this year. I cut my bananas down to about six inches and covered them with a couple of bags of mulch for each plant. A couple of guys on this site suggest getting away from the bubble wrapping. I was thinking about it and thought back to what the plant looked like after I unwrapped it. It was a sloppy mess all the way to the ground. So I might as well start from the ground.
I bought some insulation to wrap it first. That way it can breathe, then maybe bubble wrap on the outside of the insulation.
From last year, I just did bubble wrap and it turned to mush down to the ground. What came back only grew to about 3' tall.
I haven't chopped mine yet. We've had a couple frosts, but most of the leaves survived. No temps predicted below 40 this week, so I'll leave it alone for now. Some elephant ear leaves were burned, so I cut them off. But still plenty left ok.
MBindy2000
10-24-2016, 02:57 PM
I bought some insulation to wrap it first. That way it can breathe, then maybe bubble wrap on the outside of the insulation.
From last year, I just did bubble wrap and it turned to mush down to the ground. What came back only grew to about 3' tall.
I haven't chopped mine yet. We've had a couple frosts, but most of the leaves survived. No temps predicted below 40 this week, so I'll leave it alone for now. Some elephant ear leaves were burned, so I cut them off. But still plenty left ok.
Is your plant a Musa Basjoo or another type of banana? Mine is a Musa Basjoo and I did the bubble wrap and hay and bag with mulch in the bottom of the bag and it worked well. It was a sloppy mess in the spring, but the plant exploded to a height of 15 feet, with two other healthy pups that grew in excess of ten feet with it. This year I am gambling by cutting this baby down to six inches and used two bags of mulch untop of it. I'll let you and everyone know how this turns out in the spring. If its a winner its probably the best way to deal with our bananas for winterizing. Keep in mind, I saw you tube videos of guys doing the bubble wrapping, but they seem to be from Vancouver. I'm sure their winters are more mild that ours(Indy, Denver) winters, since they are right off the ocean. Maybe not I have no idea but the idea looked like a good one.
I love my elephant ears and always choose to dig them up. I hate to lose them but I hate to lose any plant for that matter.
Denverian
10-27-2016, 12:46 PM
Is your plant a Musa Basjoo or another type of banana? Mine is a Musa Basjoo and I did the bubble wrap and hay and bag with mulch in the bottom of the bag and it worked well. It was a sloppy mess in the spring, but the plant exploded to a height of 15 feet, with two other healthy pups that grew in excess of ten feet with it. This year I am gambling by cutting this baby down to six inches and used two bags of mulch untop of it. I'll let you and everyone know how this turns out in the spring. If its a winner its probably the best way to deal with our bananas for winterizing. Keep in mind, I saw you tube videos of guys doing the bubble wrapping, but they seem to be from Vancouver. I'm sure their winters are more mild that ours(Indy, Denver) winters, since they are right off the ocean. Maybe not I have no idea but the idea looked like a good one.
I love my elephant ears and always choose to dig them up. I hate to lose them but I hate to lose any plant for that matter.
Yes, I have Musa Basjoo.
Did you take a trash bag and cut a hole in the bottom, then slide it over the p-stem? Then fill it with mulch? And what do you use for mulch? I used grass/leaf clippings last year all around the base. That saved it from completely dying and I had new growth come up from nothing. The wrapping just didn't save the p-stem.
Indy and Denver probably have similar lows in winter. But Denver's lowest average high is 43 in Dec - Jan. Lows that time of year are typically in the mid teens to low 20s.
Vancouver is much warmer. Their average lows never get below freezing, although it does freeze every now and then. A much more garden-friendly climate!
MBindy2000
10-27-2016, 09:24 PM
Yes, I have Musa Basjoo.
Did you take a trash bag and cut a hole in the bottom, then slide it over the p-stem? Then fill it with mulch? And what do you use for mulch? I used grass/leaf clippings last year all around the base. That saved it from completely dying and I had new growth come up from nothing. The wrapping just didn't save the p-stem.
Indy and Denver probably have similar lows in winter. But Denver's lowest average high is 43 in Dec - Jan. Lows that time of year are typically in the mid teens to low 20s.
Vancouver is much warmer. Their average lows never get below freezing, although it does freeze every now and then. A much more garden-friendly climate!
Interesting, I don't much about Vancouver. I assumed it might be similar to Seattle. Anyway, to your question. Before I put the bag on I put a bunch of mulch in the area I assumed where the corm is and I did cut the bottom of a trash bag then put it over the stalk, then I put another layer of mulch. Then I bubble wrapped the stalk and then I packed the bag with hey(other yard waste would work fine). Then I put two more bags over the initial bag. I did this with one of my bananas the other day. On top of the second bag I put a tarp over the bag and put a trashcan over that. I'm sure it will keep it dry. We'll see what happens. I believe I can guarantee a success to this but what I'm learning on these discussions it might not be worth the hassle. Its seems more practical to bubble wrap in warmer climates, and in our climates we just need to cut them down and pile mulch on them. Whichever way we go about protecting our plants we should succeed.
Snarkie
11-02-2016, 10:17 AM
I'll pay attention to the sizes of the photos. I have a lot I would love to share.If they are too big, you can resize them in MS Paint. If they are that huge, I would reduce to 33%, and save as the same name of the original, followed be the word, "small." Try again with the new smaller file and they should upload just fine.
MBindy2000
11-03-2016, 07:00 AM
If they are too big, you can resize them in MS Paint. If they are that huge, I would reduce to 33%, and save as the same name of the original, followed be the word, "small." Try again with the new smaller file and they should upload just fine.
I have actually don't that and that's how I have been able to share my photos.
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