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Tytaylor77
08-23-2016, 03:04 PM
I have been and still am timing the growth and production of my Veinte Cohols. I have 4 VC blooming right now. I am using my largest VC for this thread.
For me it seems VC grow very slowly while they are small (under 4'). When they hit 4'-5' they really take off and add size fast. I also notice they seem to do better with a little higher nitrogen than my other varieties.
3/21/2016 - Planted 4 VC pups overwintered in my small greenhouse from last year. At planting they were about 3' pups.
7/25/2016 - Flower! Plant height is about 7' or a little more.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60421&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60421&ppuser=20917)
7/27/2016 - Large flower with lots of fingers.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60422&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60422&ppuser=20917)
8/12/2016 - 8 hands. First hand has 29 fingers!!
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60423&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60423&ppuser=20917)
8/23/2016 - Plumping a little. Can't wait to see how fast they ripen.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60428&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60428&ppuser=20917)
bananacordero1
08-23-2016, 04:30 PM
Nice looking plant also congrats.I'm thinking of getting one could you please let us know how they taste.
Thanks
Tytaylor77
08-23-2016, 04:35 PM
Nice looking plant also congrats.I'm thinking of getting one could you please let us know how they taste.
Thanks
I will! I have read mixed reviews on taste. I'm very excited to taste them and will share as soon as they get ripe.
bananacordero1
08-23-2016, 04:44 PM
I've also read negative reviews about the taste, but it seems worth trying since it does fruit fast. Hope they taste good for you.
scottu
08-23-2016, 05:49 PM
It's the only plant that I have that has fruited and matured enough to eat and enjoy, It was unbiasedly very good!!
chong
08-23-2016, 05:58 PM
Very nice! That's a lot of fruits. Thank you for sharing.
Chong
geissene
08-24-2016, 12:32 PM
Congrats! You'll have a ton of small bananas on your hands soon!
I also observed the rapid increase in growth on my 4' tall VC plant in the past few weeks. I assumed that it might be weather related but perhaps that isn't the case.
We had decent rainfall and the temperature is starting to drop into the 50s/60s at night again. I didn't notice much growth during the heat of summer.
Erik G
Tytaylor77
09-22-2016, 12:02 AM
Update: Today I cut the VC bunch pictured as well as a second bunch that was ripe.
The older VC flower to harvest time was 58 days. It weighed 14lbs.
The Larger VC and one pictured flower to harvest time was 52 days. Amazing. It weighed 19 lbs.
Total harvest was 19 hands and 283 fingers.
I tried a couple they were good but still a little green.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60636&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60636&ppuser=20917)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=60637&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=60637&ppuser=20917)
bananacordero1
09-22-2016, 01:11 AM
Congratulations on the harvest. Oh how i envy you right now. If your willing to part with a pup let me know, you convinced me with those pictures haha.
Nice! Congrats! Now I want one!!!
meizzwang
09-22-2016, 02:48 PM
great thread, thanks for documenting this tytaylor77! How would you describe the flavor?
edwmax
09-22-2016, 04:29 PM
Thanks for the pictures and info.
kaczercat
09-22-2016, 04:48 PM
congrats! from what I have seen on here, VC are one of the easier bananas to get to fruit quick. enjoy!
Tytaylor77
09-25-2016, 10:22 PM
Update: After the bananas ripening over the past few days. I've tried them at several stages of ripening.
Yellow/green: firm texture and extremely tart almost sour. Hard to peel. Peel sticks to the fruit.
Full yellow: simi firm texture. Still simi tart with some sweetness. Good taste. Little tart and others may not like it but I enjoy the tartness almost like a slight citrus flavor. Peel still sticks to fruit a little (not a big deal at all)
Full yellow little browning: excellent creamy texture. Excellent sweet taste but not too sweet with a little of the tartness. This is my preferred way to eat them. Excellent taste. Peel still sticks very little. Doesn't effect the taste.
Ripe with lots of brown: they go mushy fast at this stage. I don't like this texture. A little sweeter and less of the tartness. Still good but not as good as the less ripe ones.
Overall I love them and there is a huge difference in the ripeness. If someone eats an almost ripe one I could see how they may not like the sour tart taste. If you eat one perfectly ripe they are amazing and one of the best bananas I've tried. They have a very unique taste compared to other bananas. How easy they are to grow here means they are for sure a keeper. My wife and all my kids love them and everyone else I've let try them have loved them.
They also bruise very easily. At this point they are getting eaten by my family faster than they are ripening while some store cavendish are rotting on the counter. That should tell you something.
Excellent banana. Maybe not the sweetest or the best but I love them. I recommend everyone to grow it!! From 3' pup to eating bananas in 6months is a huge bonus and amazing to me.
Island Brah
09-26-2016, 09:16 AM
Nice!
Tytaylor77
05-10-2017, 10:10 PM
Starting my fruiting timing again.
VC, Patupi, Tigua, Florida, AEAE, monthan, Dwarf Nino, Pisang Mas, TC Ladyfinger, Egg banana (direct from Cambodia) hua moa, and Sweetheart.
Also have a race between a few others including: Pisang Abu Perak, real Ice Cream, Mysore (PC), Ney Poovan, Tars Goldfinger and Agristarts Goldfinger, and couple others.
Flag has waved and they are on their way. All similar sizes and ages. Have both planted transplants and new spring pups! Can't wait to see how it goes!
No hidden adgenda! My results will be true and proven.
All for knowledge of how short cycle and other bananas grow in zone 8b.
HMelendez
05-11-2017, 06:12 AM
Congrats Ty for the awesome collection!.....
Let me know if you need help eating all those 'nanas when "Ty 'Nana Oasis" starts exploding (flowering/blooming)!.....LOL.....just joking!....
Good luck!....:2723::bananarow::2723:
geissene
05-11-2017, 02:16 PM
Good luck with your fruit timing Ty!
I recently put all my bananas in the yard for the season. I will be curious to hear how your short cycle plants turn out - especially the new FloRida one.
I have a VC that might fruit this year and I was hoping to have a Patupi fruit as well but my plant kept growing/dying then pupping all winter. It finally has improved now that we have more warmth and sun!
VC with leaves 'folded down':
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61564><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61564&size=1 border=0></a>
Patupi pup finally happy:
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61562><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61562&size=1 border=0></a>
Regards,
Erik G
cincinnana
05-11-2017, 07:43 PM
Good luck with your fruit timing Ty!
I recently put all my bananas in the yard for the season. I will be curious to hear how your short cycle plants turn out - especially the new FloRida one.
I have a VC that might fruit this year and I was hoping to have a Patupi fruit as well but my plant kept growing/dying then pupping all winter. It finally has improved now that we have more warmth and sun!
VC with leaves 'folded down':
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61564><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61564&size=1 border=0></a>
Patupi pup finally happy:
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61562><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61562&size=1 border=0></a>
Regards,
Erik G
Great pics of the yard....awesome.
Tytaylor77
05-11-2017, 08:29 PM
Good luck with your fruit timing Ty!
I recently put all my bananas in the yard for the season. I will be curious to hear how your short cycle plants turn out - especially the new FloRida one.
I have a VC that might fruit this year and I was hoping to have a Patupi fruit as well but my plant kept growing/dying then pupping all winter. It finally has improved now that we have more warmth and sun!
VC with leaves 'folded down':
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61564><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61564&size=1 border=0></a>
Patupi pup finally happy:
<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=61562><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=61562&size=1 border=0></a>
Regards,
Erik G
That VC will fruit for sure! Keep us updated. Very nice sized VC since they don't really like winters. Lol
Patupi and most AA ones are very picky in my zone. The grow, slow, grow, slow deal is very common when the temps jump around in spring and fall.
Good job man! Keep in touch. I will for sure report back on the Florida. I have my doubts. It should be fast since it is an AA type but I doubt it will beat VC and Patupi here in 8b. Gotta remember the tropics things work differently. :lurk:
geissene
05-12-2017, 12:01 PM
Will do! I'm hoping for 2 flowers this year. My VC and DO should be of proper age!
meizzwang
05-12-2017, 12:11 PM
Tytaylor77: what were your winter low temps, and how did the VC take it?
Tytaylor77
05-15-2017, 01:56 PM
Tytaylor77: what were your winter low temps, and how did the VC take it?
We had a horriable winter. Down to 20F one night. Broke a 60 year record. Lost most all pstems since I had no protection on anything. VC all died to the ground like always but didn't loose any corms. They all lived and popped up early March. Then we had some warm/cold/warm/cold weather late March early April that really set them back. They are going strong though.
meizzwang
05-15-2017, 04:19 PM
And you're still able to get them to flower+fruit despite such setbacks?! That's amazing....
Mudturkle
05-16-2017, 12:33 AM
Ty you are my hero! For zone 8B, which strategy do you think is better? Plant in the ground and protect the P-stem? Or overwinter in fair sized pots in some kind of greenhouse etc?
Tytaylor77
05-16-2017, 12:53 AM
Thanks Mudturtle! That's one of the things I am testing now.
I know a 3' pup coming out of the greenhouse and planting it into the ground works. VC overwintered in the ground does not like to be wet at all! This past year I threw plastic feed sacks flat over the corms and chopped pstems. They all survived just fine and came up fast in early March. If those late March cold snaps didn't hit I would be way ahead but they are still big. I'm removing all pups to make sure my chosen pstem gets full energy. I haven't measured but I'm guessing the largest is about 5'.
I'm betting in our zone we can do either way in ground or pots. North of 8b/9a I would say pups in pots would be the best choice. I'm taking lots of pics and will report my first flower when it pops.
Good luck to you all! I'm betting we are gonna see a lot of VC and Patupi bunches this year.
Vette-kid
05-16-2017, 06:45 AM
My parents are 9a aND get away without doing anything special. They did lose one pstem once. I'm 8b and just starting with bananas. I'm planning to just try some light protection when I see the cold coming, I have citrus too so I'll have to protect that anyway. But I think I'll pull a few pups around late November to pot. I don't have a good place inside, but I might try a small green house outside with a lamp.
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