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mrbungalow
04-21-2008, 01:23 PM
Apparently they want to move the commercial banana belt further north!

Georgia banana-experiment (http://ageconsearch.umn.edu/bitstream/123456789/8821/1/36010048.pdf)

Randy4ut
04-21-2008, 02:04 PM
Interesting article, Erlend... I was down at the Bamboo Gardens a little over a month ago and the site is pretty impressive. One of our own members is another one that is in this study. Hope they see this and give their two cents on it... Again, thanks for sharing the article...

dablo93
04-21-2008, 02:42 PM
really intressting! i see that the P-stems survived it, in which zone is this ?

Randy4ut
04-21-2008, 03:02 PM
Daen,
If I am not mistaken, it is a zone 8b. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

51st state
04-21-2008, 06:52 PM
Brilliant, loving it
I cant believe they didnt have the funding to keep it going.

whats a 'frank unknown' then frank? LOL

bigdog
04-21-2008, 07:44 PM
LOL, I was wondering the same thing! I've got a couple of 'Frank Unknowns' here at the house myself, LOL!

The project is still going strong. The SPS had a meeting down there a couple of months back, and Dr. Richard Wallace had a really nice presentation on some of their findings. They also have some nice ornamental hybrids that they have created that will be released sometime next year, I think. This ongoing study is why the cultivar 'Veinte Cohol' has suddenly become so popular! Not too sure about its cold-tolerance, but it ripens a bunch of fruit in about 45 days or so, and can complete a fruiting cycle from a 2-3 foot (pseudostem) pup in the spring.

Chironex
04-21-2008, 07:54 PM
Woah, I gotta get me one of those!!!!

Musamania
04-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Yes...The Bamboo Gardens, the only one I know...is located along Hwy 17, slightly south of the city of Savannah, not far from tidal marshes & would be close to Zone 8b. Winters can be eratic ...more befitting a straight Zone 8 in the occaisional winter? I am waiting for a couple of Veinte Cohul, which won't show up 'til mid-summer. If you are interested in buying one of these nanners,...Going Bananas, in Homestead, FL sells them. They had a run on the plant recently, so a wait may be necessary.

Tropicallvr
04-22-2008, 08:03 AM
That's cool, about time someone went all out like that.
Those hybrid ornamentals sound interesting also.

Randy4ut
04-22-2008, 09:44 AM
You should have seen some of them during Dr. Wallace's presentation. They were unbelievable!!! Be ready to have your socks knocked off when they come out, hopefully, next year....

Bananaman88
04-22-2008, 12:07 PM
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting study.

AllenF
04-22-2008, 02:58 PM
Wow. I just may be able to fruit a banana using that variety. Put it in a pot outside in the late spring, bring it in during early fall. Then store it with light etc. in the basement over winter and have it fruit the next summer.

Now to find a way to get several of those into Canada.

Allen

damaclese
04-22-2008, 04:23 PM
Interesting i hope they get more funding mabe we banana heads sould fund a study what do you all think really how much could it cost and what zone would be ideal id love to grow bananas for a living how about you all?:bunchonanas:

Randy4ut
04-22-2008, 04:49 PM
I am sure you really didn't mean, "how much could it cost"... I would be afraid to ask... I do good just to support my nanner habit at home, much less someone else's addiction...

BIGDAWG69
04-22-2008, 09:49 PM
I live about 7 miles from there and pass by it everyday going to work. The "Bamboo Farm" as its called by locals is about 50 acres and currenty run by the University of Ga, It was originally used as a research site to see if paper could be made from bamboo fibers.

They have hundreds of different varieties of plants growing there. They grow strawberries and allow folks to come in and pick their own and then sell them by the pound. Some of the bamboo on the roadside must be 40-50 feet tall. I haven't been inside the place in years, but now I'm gonna have to stop in soon and see what varieties of banana they have.

mskitty38583
04-22-2008, 10:22 PM
i think it would cost a lot! hey when you go to the bamboo place, can you take pics of the bamboo, if you dont mind. i have been looking for some and there is a spefic kind i want. just dont know the name, but id know it if i saw it. thanks in advance.

AllenF
04-23-2008, 09:53 AM
Pauly you have a shot at growing bananas for a living with the temps down there. Fertilizer and water could be expensive but .......

Allen

Gabe15
04-23-2008, 01:24 PM
On a slightly related noted, its becoming apparent that 'Viente Cohol' is possibly an Inarnibal group member, this is better known as the "40 day bananas", the fruit ripens in about 40 days from emergence and the plants themselves are quicker to flower it seems. 'Senorita' and 'Pisang Berlin' are both in this group as well, I have both but they are too young to say anything about yet, they should be in the ground by August though and then I can see how they grow.

damaclese
04-24-2008, 07:13 AM
Pauly you have a shot at growing bananas for a living with the temps down there. Fertilizer and water could be expensive but .......

Allen
Are u Kidding Allen if i tried to grow naners here Clark County water district would surely sew me they do every thing in their power now to Keep people for having a yard and so far I'm having a bit of tribal with the sun burring my William hybrid
its funny about the sun you would thing naners could take the hot sun since there mostly grown in places that are nearer the Equator were the sun is most intense well i can still dream maybe all move to a place and start a naner plantation would be cool to develop a naner that transports well and that doesn't taste like those nasty Gran nanes they force us to eat
:woohoonaner:

mskitty38583
04-24-2008, 07:25 AM
that is true....but on the otherhand when the nanas grow in the wild they are usually under a canopy of other trees. so pretty much they only get filtered light. unless they are on a nana plantation. and im sure when they put out a new pup it burns up too. so there are a few things we can do...let the leaes burn and pray that the new leaves coming out have an spf of 45...or shade screen the whole yard (who can afford that)... or grow them under a canopy...me i want to see if they have an spf of 45. lol!

p.s. i understand the water co giving you !@#$. let them tell me this summer im not to water outside plants. ill take a 1 gal milk jug and put it in the ground next to my nanas. poke holes in the sides of the jug, and cover the whole thing but the opening with mulch. and fill it up with water and let it go. where there is a nana it will get watered.

Dean W.
04-24-2008, 08:57 AM
The one-gallon milk jug thing makes an excellent drip irrigation system. LOL!!!:banana_pi:2750::choochoo:

Dean

AllenF
04-24-2008, 09:28 AM
Hey Pauly;

I didn't realize how anal they were about the water supply. They sure don't tell us tourists to conserve water.

Allen

mskitty38583
04-24-2008, 01:23 PM
i thought so anyways. lol!

chong
04-24-2008, 05:05 PM
On a slightly related noted, its becoming apparent that 'Viente Cohol' is possibly an Inarnibal group member, this is better known as the "40 day bananas", the fruit ripens in about 40 days from emergence and the plants themselves are quicker to flower it seems. 'Senorita' and 'Pisang Berlin' are both in this group as well, I have both but they are too young to say anything about yet, they should be in the ground by August though and then I can see how they grow.

Hello Gabe,
Are the Seņorita and Pisang Berlin, that you have, from tissue culture? I had heard that there are Seņorita varieties in Oahu. Have seen any?

Thank you.

Chong

damaclese
04-25-2008, 07:24 AM
Hey Pauly;

I didn't realize how anal they were about the water supply. They sure don't tell us tourists to conserve water.

Allen well i do feel a bit gilty for having the water loving yard i do but as i have the only lush landscape in 5 Mil pepol seam to like to look at it so no ones narked me out as of yet besids its not strictly ileaga to have a nice landscap just to have more then 15% grass for a new yard if you already have one then they have grand fatherd them in besids iv gone to grate lanths to make my yard as water conserving as posibal iv gotin reid of all the nativ soil its all sand wich dosin hold any water as u well know and i alsow cut up cellulows spunges and tuck thim in to the soil around my plants allsow i add water absorbing poliymers (not sure i speld that right) and to answer your origanal stamet have you looked at the nuber of water sins that they post in the bathrooms of the hotell rooms and you dont get a glass of water with your dinner unles you ask for it but still thers that dam lake out in front of the balogeo no ones telling them to stope and i dont care that its gray water it stinks to high hevin any way and dont let it spray on you if its windy that go for the golf corsis here to they stink but i cant have a gardin sory im ranting now o well (X#o@!_) lol

Dean W.
04-25-2008, 09:00 AM
damaclese,

Along with having to ask for water in a restaurant. In the hotels they ask you to leave a sign on if you would like to reuse your linens and towels to conserve water. I didn't realize the lake in front of the Belagio was grey water.

Good luck with keeping everything watered this summer. It gets offly hot and dry there.


:parachutenanner:
Dean

mskitty38583
04-25-2008, 09:08 AM
thats not ranting...thats frustration. i had the same feelings last summer. we had a drought,and the rivers were down 22-26 inches. so they said no outside watering..ok not a prob. but every single business in town was out watering their plants at noon.every day. buy drought tollerant plants, wave petunias,merigolds cacti! ok the best time to water is am. there is less water evaporation. and your plant will absorbe more water in the am then it will in the pm( im talking annuals and perrenials, not nanas) lol! and the run off from them overwatering really made me mad. so i decided that i was going to mulch my yard in( to keep from having to look a brown crunchy grass in the summertime). and i dare them to tell me i cant water my nanas. i have a plan.i think i will use the plastic milk jug as a drip irrigation. recycle-reuse.:woohoonaner: lol!! hahahahahah hehehehe

AllenF
04-25-2008, 10:30 AM
The 'reuse linens' signs are in most hotels. I thought that it was to reduce the phosphates going into the water supply. I never noticed the need to ask for water with meals. I haven't got to the Bellagio yet. The Venitian's water is odor free and seems pretty clear.

I am not used to water rationing. Even in drought situations, I don't remember the last time we were told not to water lawns etc. The city requires that we wash all recyclable cans, plastic and glass before they go in recycle containers.

But, my yard is 100% tame grass free because I hate cutting grass. I do have some ornamental grass along with the perennials, shrubs, vegetables and bulbs/corms.

Allen

damaclese
04-25-2008, 09:04 PM
well Kitty thats a good idea and as far as my yard gos i dont have any grass ither i ues 100% good old read sand rock and then mulch under and for 1ft arond all my plants by the way iv desided that after waching my willams new lef wich dose seam to have adapted to the sun here some what start to burn im moving the nana to a shady spot so much for my planed out landscape erll theres always nexst year im defintly not puting the Blue java in the full sun and the teps only in the high 80 i mite have to move my nanas in for the summer what do you all think the teps here run around 110 to 115 for july and agust 8% humidity
Help i nead advice from a nother desert rat (las vegas pepol call them selvs that):parachutenanner:

qwkslver
05-13-2008, 11:17 AM
Why is it so hard to get plants into Canada, if I may ask? You must be very diligent if you grow bananas up there. I used to live in WV and I finally just gave up.

Wow. I just may be able to fruit a banana using that variety. Put it in a pot outside in the late spring, bring it in during early fall. Then store it with light etc. in the basement over winter and have it fruit the next summer.

Now to find a way to get several of those into Canada.

Allen