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Tytaylor77
05-20-2016, 08:33 PM
Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59775&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59775&size=big&cat=500&ppuser=20917)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59776&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59776&ppuser=20917)

Botanical_Bryce
05-20-2016, 08:43 PM
Great timing.

crazy banana
05-21-2016, 11:07 PM
Congrats.
I second the good timing.

JP
05-22-2016, 04:29 AM
Contrats!

HMelendez
05-22-2016, 06:15 AM
Tytaylor77,


Congrats!

Jose263
05-22-2016, 01:42 PM
Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59775&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59775&size=big&cat=500&ppuser=20917)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59776&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59776&ppuser=20917)

I guess it is time to show my ignorance - I have Goldfinger from a pup acquired from a member a 3-4 of years ago - the mat has produced a couple of bunches but never early enough to beat the winter frosts. It is not as cold hardy as Orinoco, or Namwah. :bananas_b
Please help -What is the difference in
FIHA-1 Goldfinger and American Goldfinger??

Tytaylor77
05-22-2016, 06:24 PM
I guess it is time to show my ignorance - I have Goldfinger from a pup acquired from a member a 3-4 of years ago - the mat has produced a couple of bunches but never early enough to beat the winter frosts. It is not as cold hardy as Orinoco, or Namwah. :bananas_b
Please help -What is the difference in
FIHA-1 Goldfinger and American Goldfinger??

Some experts on here say the TC Goldfinger like mine from agristarts is not the true fhia-1 Goldfinger. They call the TC/agristarts one like mine the fake/American Goldfinger.

What all the differences is I'm not sure. I think the flower has some different traits. Maybe an expert will answer that.

Jose263
05-22-2016, 07:55 PM
Some experts on here say the TC Goldfinger like mine from agristarts is not the true fhia-1 Goldfinger. They call the TC/agristarts one like mine the fake/American Goldfinger.


What all the differences is I'm not sure. I think the flower has some different traits. Maybe an expert will answer that.

TY - thanks - a familiar story except with different names - i.e. Blue Java and Namwah.
So, for the experts what are the tell tale signs for the real and/or fake Goldfinger? If my mat is true to form it will push a flower in late July or August. :drum::drum::drum:

PR-Giants
05-25-2016, 10:15 AM
This was the likely source for the AS tissue cultures, and the photo below that is an actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger. Both plants are great so growing either one is great.

Look through the org gallery and see if you can find a real Goldfinger growing on the mainland. :ha:

USDA-TARS is distributing the actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger.


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56957

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=53158&size=1

PR-Giants
05-25-2016, 10:19 AM
Congrats :woohoonaner:

Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59775&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59775&size=big&cat=500&ppuser=20917)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59776&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59776&ppuser=20917)

Jose263
05-25-2016, 03:28 PM
This was the likely source for the AS tissue cultures, and the photo below that is an actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger. Both plants are great so growing either one is great.

Look through the org gallery and see if you can find a real Goldfinger growing on the mainland. :ha:

USDA-TARS is distributing the actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger.


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56957

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=53158&size=1
PR - Thanks - Both pics appear to have blooms shoulder high or lower.. The blooms on my GF are higher 6-7 ft or more. .maybe I have a fake GF I will take photos if it blooms this season

Pancrazio
05-25-2016, 06:41 PM
Hey, wait, wait, wait.... i got a Goldfinger that i bought from Germany years ago which literally bites the dust every winter. I always tought that sources for bananas in europe was ultimately agristarts. So you are telling me now that that plant i have been talking around so badly may not be the "real" goldfinger?
I have to start over from scratch all my experiments with it?

Tytaylor77
05-25-2016, 08:36 PM
This one is right at 7'. Another one I have is 7' 6" or so and just popped it's flag leaf today. Planted same time as this one.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59819&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59819&ppuser=20917)

JP
05-25-2016, 08:49 PM
Congrats!

robguz24
05-25-2016, 09:54 PM
I have at least 4, possibly five "not Goldfingers" and they're all different. 2 of them come from the same local tissue culture supplier for most of the nurseries in Hawaii. Plants look similar but one takes a month longer to ripen than the other, flesh color is different, and taste is different. A 3rd from this same supplier is again different than those 2, and all are different (better) than the Agristarts one I got a few years ago. I have a more recent Agristarts one that so far looks quite different than the first one. The "Goldfinger" issue is a mess! Seems like TARS of someone who got one from TARS originally is your best bet.

Tytaylor77
05-30-2016, 06:06 PM
10 days later.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59853&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59853&ppuser=20917)

And a 2nd Goldfinger blooming a few feet away.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=59855&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=59855&ppuser=20917)

JCA433
06-01-2016, 06:30 PM
I see you have propped your Goldfinger bunch. That is crucial because Goldfinger is susceptible to collapse especially in windy locations. The Goldfinger bananas though are excellent quality.

PR-Giants
06-02-2016, 09:50 AM
Is this the banana you're calling a Goldfinger?

The Goldfinger is a very stout plant and none of the ones I've grown have ever needed to be propped even with their huge bunches.

Can you post a photo of the male bud.

My goldfinger bunch has collapsed! The fingers have not finished filling in yet.
I now understand this variety MUST be propped!


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57840&size=1



http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57841&size=1


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57842&size=1



I see you have propped your Goldfinger bunch. That is crucial because Goldfinger is susceptible to collapse especially in windy locations. The Goldfinger bananas though are excellent quality.

JCA433
06-02-2016, 10:16 AM
Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the bud.

robguz24
06-02-2016, 11:45 AM
JCA I've had a couple of my Agristarts "goldfingers" collapse like this, and the p-stems also look too skinny as yours do. Whatever Agristarts shipped me clearly isn't and it's just an ok tasting fruit with much of the taste and texture of a Brazilian, and a very weak plant overall. Fruit filling out has also been a problem.

Tytaylor77
06-02-2016, 08:02 PM
Mine seem to be weaker since they bloomed. It worries me so I propped them to be safe. They have plenty time to fill so I hope they fill ok. I'm going to grow the real Goldfinger beside it if I ever get one. I would like to see the differences also. They are doing great so far. The taller plants flower is a lot bigger than the first.

37.667910
06-03-2016, 10:55 AM
Interesting. (Congrats btw) I read Goldfinger are normally 12'-14' when they bloom.

Tytaylor77
06-03-2016, 11:36 AM
Interesting. (Congrats btw) I read Goldfinger are normally 12'-14' when they bloom.

I'm sure they are in the tropics. Also some experts say these Agristarts TC goldfingers are different than the real Goldfinger from TARS. I'm happy to get 6-7' here. Easy to wrap during winter. My Manzano bloom is close to 14'. That is pretty tall for my manzanos. I find most of my plants are a few feet smaller than in the tropics.

37.667910
06-03-2016, 11:46 AM
I'm sure they are in the tropics. Also some experts say these Agristarts TC goldfingers are different than the real Goldfinger from TARS. I'm happy to get 6-7' here. Easy to wrap during winter. My Manzano bloom is close to 14'. That is pretty tall for my manzanos. I find most of my plants are a few feet smaller than in the tropics.

Makes sense.
I know what you mean about wrapping in the winter. My dwarf Orinoco at 5.5' was a breeze for a frost blanket. Hoping it will bloom maybe next year :bananas_b

JCA433
06-08-2016, 06:59 AM
Taylor, my first generation Goldfinger stem bloomed at about 6 feet 9 inches tall. The bunch though was excellent quality with about 10 hands. The pup stems that followed grew to about 10 to 11 feet before the flower emerged. I may not even have the real Goldfinger though. Next time I will take a picture of the bud if I do not forget.