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Richard
03-14-2008, 11:49 AM
What about "grafting"?
I suppose there are not too many interested in this subject.
I've been grafting so many citrus,apples, plouts and plums since 2 weeks ago.

When I graft, it is in short proximity to the soil line. Part of this is because I have room for one or two trees of each fruit variety that will grow in my area; another part is that I cook, freeze, make jam, sorbet etc. from batches of the same cultivar and so 1/2 dozen of one fruit won't do; and finally I don't multi-graft to test varieties -- instead I just go to a fruit tasting or someone with the plant and try it there.

On the other hand, I really admire what others are doing with multi-graft trees because many varieties are untested in their climate, or they just don't have room for both an orange and tangerine tree.

So what did you graft today?

JoeReal
03-14-2008, 12:20 PM
Some of the cultivars I have but I need to regraft them on other parts of the tree for better balance of the canopy based on their growth. About a third of these are new.

Cherries (done and all pushing out):
Lambert
Ron's
Dawson
Brooks
Almaden Duke
Rainier
Saylor
Ramon Aliva
Long John
Nanking
K-5
Emerich#1
Emerich#2
Late Lomeli
La Roca Grande


Plums(done and all pushing out):
Black Splendor
John W
Superior
Beauty
Inca
Wickson
Black Amber
Sierra
Fellenberg
Burgundy
E Heart
W.S.Rosa
Satsuma
Nubiana
San Jose FS
Sierra
Satsuma
13133
13134
Black Amber
K-1


Apricots(done and all pushing out):
Waugh
Zard

Peaches and Nectarines (done and all pushing out):
Fairtime
Cal.Curl Free
UFO
Rio Oso
Strawberry Free


Pears and Apples (done and all pushing out):
Edward's Winter
Fiesta
Highland
Honeycrisp
Kosui
Magness
Monark
Newton Pippin
Pine Hill
Seuri
Shinko
Tarusa Crimson
Warren
Winter Banana
Yoinashi



Citruses (10% done):
Benny's Bicol Calamondin
Centennial
Eustis Limequat
giant key lime
Gold Nugget
Navelate
Nordman Seedless Nagami
Reinking Pummelo
Rex Union Grapefruit hybrid
Seedless lemon
SRA 92 Clementine
Sudachi Hybrid
Tango Mandarin
Thong Dee Pummelo
USDA 88-2
kaffir lime
Kinkoji
Kuno Wase
Smooth Flat Seville
China S-6
China S-7
China S-9
Corsica#1
Limonero Messina
Ponderosa
Sidi Aissa
Lane Late
Pink Grapefruit
Pixie
Chironja GF hybrid
Clementine Nules
Dream
Indio Mandarinquat
Mato Buntan
Pearl Tangelo
Ruby Blood
Salustiana
Smith Red
Tavares Limequat
Vainiglia Sanguigno
Joe's Tarocco

Persimmons (still to be done):
5-sided PCNA
Acorn Type from Val
Chocolate
Dai-dai Maru
Fuji
Giant fuyu
Gosho
H128
Hachiya
Hana Gosho
Honan Red
Hyakume
Imoto
Izu
Jiro
Maekawa Jiro
Matsumoto Wase
Nishijo from Alex
OC Maru
R.Smith
Real Fuyu
Rosseyenka
Saijo
Suruga
Tamopan
Zenji Maru

Loquats
Jujubes


Assorted Blueberries (still coming)
Other peaches (still on their way)
Other nectarines and apricots (on their way)
other persimmons (on their way too)
other citruses (there's still more coming)

JoeReal
03-14-2008, 12:26 PM
Grafting for me is year round. I have potted plants inside the house so I can graft rain or shine.

Done about ten days ago:
Was really fortunate to purchase very few Tango budwoods and so took the most of my share of the buds. They all took, and I am doing the Tango!

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2663/P3040032.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05

Tango on the Volk, coming out strong. I have to test for myself if indeed it will produce insipid fruits. Perhaps with our climate it would turn out fine just like the Yosemite Gold on rough lemons. It may not be supersweet but just the right sweetness for our taste.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5320/p3040033.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05

Tango T-bud and Gold Nugget bark graft combo on the Volk. I've tasted Gold Nugget produced on the Volk, and with proper length of time on the tree, it turned out really well. It is a good keeper. These are two of the most recommended mandarin types for our area, but not the rootstock though. The worst that can happen is that I would have plenty of budwoods from the vigorous growth on Volk (in fact some propagators could use the technique of grafting for budwood propagation, and not primarily fruit production).

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8600/p3040031.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05
Of course, as the tip given to me by Bonnie, Prof Manners and MrTexas, Flying dragon are excellent rootstocks when you want high quality fruits. And I have already a SRA 92 with two blooms, a Gold Nugget and a Tango budded and already sprouting. Will plan to add one more mandarin before chopping off the remainder of the Flying Dragon

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1111/p3040036.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05
And of course, I'm into multi-graft who want to have it all on one tree in a residential lot with itty bitty yard.

I am in the early stages of assembling a multi-grafted mandarin tree. Already sprouting are Tango, Gold Nugget, Corsica #1, Sidi Aissa, and China Satsuma S-9. Will plan to add more later.

CookieCows
03-14-2008, 12:37 PM
WOW .... I get so excited reading about this. I really want to do this someday.

hydrojeff
03-14-2008, 01:05 PM
just a little warmer and will be grafting a 9 tip plumie with 9 different species, the plumie is a old grove farm that almost froze so i cut it to good wood which was about 8" from ground level and it shot out 9 tips!!!! i cant wait

Richard
03-14-2008, 01:27 PM
Way to go, Joe!

The Gold Nugget mandarin is the best I've ever tasted. It is one of the "lost" Howard Frost cultivars that Toots Bier rescued from the UCR collection. I hope your graft is a winner for you. Mine is in the ground on Flying Dragon -- a situation I'm not entirely happy with. What are some other rootstock possibilities?

JoeReal
03-14-2008, 01:37 PM
You can graft the Gold Nugget unto Ponkan Mandarins and you won't be disappointed in terms of growth and fruit quality.

Gold Nugget is vigorous and would readily graft unto many citrus cultivars. Even my lousiest graft of them will always take and sprout. On the other hand, the Giant Key Lime is one of my most challenging citrus to graft.

Gold Nugget can be grafted unto the Volkameriana lemon and the fruit quality is more than good enough. For sure it can be grafted unto C-35, Carrizo, and Swingle. Most Trifoliate type stocks and their hybrids would be good to use. Long term compatibility, you may have problems with benching 30 years down the road if done on Swingle. But let the next generation worry about that one.

Richard
03-14-2008, 01:48 PM
Joe, thanks for that great recommendation!

modenacart
03-14-2008, 08:34 PM
Grafting for me is year round. I have potted plants inside the house so I can graft rain or shine.

Done about ten days ago:
Was really fortunate to purchase very few Tango budwoods and so took the most of my share of the buds. They all took, and I am doing the Tango!

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2663/P3040032.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05

Tango on the Volk, coming out strong. I have to test for myself if indeed it will produce insipid fruits. Perhaps with our climate it would turn out fine just like the Yosemite Gold on rough lemons. It may not be supersweet but just the right sweetness for our taste.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5320/p3040033.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05

Tango T-bud and Gold Nugget bark graft combo on the Volk. I've tasted Gold Nugget produced on the Volk, and with proper length of time on the tree, it turned out really well. It is a good keeper. These are two of the most recommended mandarin types for our area, but not the rootstock though. The worst that can happen is that I would have plenty of budwoods from the vigorous growth on Volk (in fact some propagators could use the technique of grafting for budwood propagation, and not primarily fruit production).

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8600/p3040031.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05
Of course, as the tip given to me by Bonnie, Prof Manners and MrTexas, Flying dragon are excellent rootstocks when you want high quality fruits. And I have already a SRA 92 with two blooms, a Gold Nugget and a Tango budded and already sprouting. Will plan to add one more mandarin before chopping off the remainder of the Flying Dragon

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1111/p3040036.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-05
And of course, I'm into multi-graft who want to have it all on one tree in a residential lot with itty bitty yard.

I am in the early stages of assembling a multi-grafted mandarin tree. Already sprouting are Tango, Gold Nugget, Corsica #1, Sidi Aissa, and China Satsuma S-9. Will plan to add more later.

If you graft something on sour orange, then later graft a part of that graft on flying dragon will it still turn out as good?

JoeReal
03-14-2008, 08:58 PM
If you graft something on sour orange, then later graft a part of that graft on flying dragon will it still turn out as good?

You meant Sour orange as base, then flying dragon as interstem, then whatevery cultivar on flying dragon?

Most likely it will be a compromise. The root system of the base stock has a big influence on the quality of the fruit juices on the final scionwood. The interstem should have to be at least 12" to have a "compromise" or in between effect. You will not achieve the same quality as when FD is the base stock, but it could help.

bencelest
03-15-2008, 06:45 AM
Some of the cultivars I have but I need to regraft them on other parts of the tree for better balance of the canopy based on their growth. About a third of these are new.

Cherries (done and all pushing out):
Lambert
Ron's
Dawson
Brooks
Almaden Duke
Rainier
Saylor
Ramon Aliva
Long John
Nanking
K-5
Emerich#1
Emerich#2
Late Lomeli
La Roca Grande


Plums(done and all pushing out):
Black Splendor
John W
Superior
Beauty
Inca
Wickson
Black Amber
Sierra
Fellenberg
Burgundy
E Heart
W.S.Rosa
Satsuma
Nubiana
San Jose FS
Sierra
Satsuma
13133
13134
Black Amber
K-1


Apricots(done and all pushing out):
Waugh
Zard

Peaches and Nectarines (done and all pushing out):
Fairtime
Cal.Curl Free
UFO
Rio Oso
Strawberry Free


Pears and Apples (done and all pushing out):
Edward's Winter
Fiesta
Highland
Honeycrisp
Kosui
Magness
Monark
Newton Pippin
Pine Hill
Seuri
Shinko
Tarusa Crimson
Warren
Winter Banana
Yoinashi



Citruses (10% done):
Benny's Bicol Calamondin
Centennial
Eustis Limequat
giant key lime
Gold Nugget
Navelate
Nordman Seedless Nagami
Reinking Pummelo
Rex Union Grapefruit hybrid
Seedless lemon
SRA 92 Clementine
Sudachi Hybrid
Tango Mandarin
Thong Dee Pummelo
USDA 88-2
kaffir lime
Kinkoji
Kuno Wase
Smooth Flat Seville
China S-6
China S-7
China S-9
Corsica#1
Limonero Messina
Ponderosa
Sidi Aissa
Lane Late
Pink Grapefruit
Pixie
Chironja GF hybrid
Clementine Nules
Dream
Indio Mandarinquat
Mato Buntan
Pearl Tangelo
Ruby Blood
Salustiana
Smith Red
Tavares Limequat
Vainiglia Sanguigno
Joe's Tarocco

Persimmons (still to be done):
5-sided PCNA
Acorn Type from Val
Chocolate
Dai-dai Maru
Fuji
Giant fuyu
Gosho
H128
Hachiya
Hana Gosho
Honan Red
Hyakume
Imoto
Izu
Jiro
Maekawa Jiro
Matsumoto Wase
Nishijo from Alex
OC Maru
R.Smith
Real Fuyu
Rosseyenka
Saijo
Suruga
Tamopan
Zenji Maru

Loquats
Jujubes


Assorted Blueberries (still coming)
Other peaches (still on their way)
Other nectarines and apricots (on their way)
other persimmons (on their way too)
other citruses (there's still more coming)

Joe: I am impressed how many had you grafted.
I thought I was the only one who were busy grafting.
The many budwoods that we got from the UCR were still not grafted because all of my trees are flowering now and I don't want to disturb them except for a few branches.

bencelest
03-15-2008, 06:53 AM
Here's a sample of my newly grafted citrus.
The one on purple arrows are the newly grafted ones. The one on the red are last year's and the branches on the left are EZ's Oroblanco . They were all grafted to a Chandler pommelo because I found out that pommelos don't sweetened in my area. Not enough warmth during the Summer months. And I found out that mandarins are not affected. They can be as all sweet as can be. So I grafted many JoeReal's clemenules on this one. At least 16 stems and counting.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8639&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8639)

bencelest
03-15-2008, 07:03 AM
You guys are talking about flying dragon. I am not sure if I am familiar with that. All I know is trifoliate rootstock. Can you tell me about it?

Richard
03-15-2008, 10:37 AM
You guys are talking about flying dragon. I am not sure if I am familiar with that. All I know is trifoliate rootstock. Can you tell me about it?

Flying dragon is the common name for Poncirus trifoliate, also called trifoliate rootstock. The plant grows as a bush with numerous twisting, thorny branches and thus earned it's common name.

JoeReal
03-15-2008, 11:59 AM
You guys are talking about flying dragon. I am not sure if I am familiar with that. All I know is trifoliate rootstock. Can you tell me about it?

There are many types of trifoliate rootstocks. Flying Dragon is only one cultivar of them. Most trifoliate rootstocks have been hybridized. The Flying Dragon is the only one proven that have the best dwarfing effect while at the same time imparting excellent quality fruits.

If you want, I can dig out the various trifoliate rootstocks for you. I have one publication telling all about the various rootstocks tried for California. You can buy that book from UC Riverside publications. It shows various compatibility charts as well.

bencelest
03-15-2008, 12:04 PM
Thanks Richard. So we are talking about the same thing.
When I see the trifoliate leaves of my rootstock in fact when some of my citrus have a watersprout below the graft line they are what I called trifoliate because the leaves are 3 separate leaves so from now on I can call them flying dragon. In fact I have a few clemenules grafted on them.

bencelest
03-16-2008, 08:50 PM
What I graft today were:
6 scions of Dancy mandarin to an oroblanco
8 large fruiting calamondin to Joe's calamondin
2 seedless kishu to a trifoliate which grew below the graft of a satsuma mandarin

Richard
03-16-2008, 09:15 PM
What I graft today were:
6 scions of Dancy mandarin to an oroblanco
8 large fruiting calamondin to Joe's calamondin
2 seedless kishu to a trifoliate which grew below the graft of a satsuma mandarin

Great! The oroblanco should push the Dancy scions into quite a bit of production.

bencelest
03-17-2008, 12:15 AM
Joe:
I didn't mean to ignore your nice gesture but to me to know more about the flying dragon is not necessary as Richard already answered what I all want to know.
Thanks anyway for asking.

JoeReal
03-17-2008, 09:27 AM
Great! The oroblanco should push the Dancy scions into quite a bit of production.

Richard, I'm surprised that the OB will do this in your area. Is the OB down there have good vigor as the other pummelo or grapefruit types? OB could be vigorous on Volkameriana rootstocks, but who would want a bland tasting OB?

Over here, the Oro Blanco is relatively a slow grower on citrange or Carrizo rootstock compared to other grapefruits in the same rootstocks, especially if kept in production. Mato Buntan, Chandler, Rio Star, and most other grapefruits have several times more vigor than OB's. That's how they performed in my yard, as well as EZ's yard.

Benny, how is the vigor of your OB compared to others? In my multi-graft, I'm sure glad I grafted the OB in the South Facing direction where it will never get shaded out. It is also a slow but productive grower.

I will be topworking a university professor's Ray Ruby grapefruit with Calamondins on the coming two weekends. Calamondins do well over grapefruits.

bencelest
03-17-2008, 09:38 AM
Joe:
My Oroblanco is the mother host of my Dancy. It is just an experiment thinking that OB and pommelo are both in the same family so that they maybe compatible with mandarins. Because your clemenule do a superb growth in my Chandler pommelo. So I am testing a mandarin graft to a pomello family.
I also added a couple of seedless kishu (mandarin) in two branches.
I have an oroblanco tree that really perks up with nice new stem and foliage but it is only perhaps 3 feet tall. And thinking that pommelos has an unsweetened fruit in my area due to low tempt in Summer, so probably does OB's. So I am just using them as mother host.
Too bad because EZ's OBs are really taking off and very vigorous.
So I might not be able to taste that superb taste that EZ sampled for us.
But all is not lost. I have a sister who lives in Stockton that I will graft a bunch of EZ's OBs there.
What are your thoughts in my way of thinking?

bencelest
03-17-2008, 10:00 AM
Joe:
As to your question on how is the OB growth in my area?
Well I am not sure.
They surely are slow growers. I have 2 OB plants. One is very slow and appears to be dying. It used to be very vigorous and the fruits were all over for a 2 1/2foot plant but all of a sudden the branches started browning so I started to trim them until I only have about 3 branches left and I transferred it to a new pot. The leaves appeared to be half wilted for many months but 3 months ago it started perking up. So last week I grafted 3 clemenules on it.
My other OB I just noticed 3 months ago that it is the most green and healthiest of all my citruses during the winter. And EZ's OB are also very green and healthy. I think iEZ's oro's is 2nd fastest grower now barring the Chandler.

bencelest
03-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Here's one of my OBs of yesteryear:

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8696&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8696)

JoeReal
03-17-2008, 10:20 AM
Benny, the OB would be perfect in Stockton/Modesto Area. Fellow local CRFG'ers have fantastic samples, perhaps nearly as good as EZ's during one of the meetings.

bencelest
03-17-2008, 10:42 AM
Thanks!

Here's another pic

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8702&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8702)

bencelest
03-17-2008, 10:49 AM
And my other plants including bananas, midknight orange and lychees in front

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8703&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8703)

bencelest
03-17-2008, 12:28 PM
This pic are not new grafts but about 6 months and they are now flowering. I grafted them last spring and now they are budding with flowers.
This is just a sample. I have many many grafts that I did on my many plants. Most notable is my santa rosa plum as the mother host. I grafted many European plums on the canopy and now they are in blooms. Will post later once I get their names.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8705&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8705)

bencelest
03-18-2008, 06:30 PM
I did not graft today but I just want to show you the canopy of my Santa Rosa Plum that I grafted various European plums.
I will just list most of the names because to write it on the pictures will be so many. Each variety is grafted more than once.
Here they are:
Reincloud de Juliett European plum
Golden transparent gage E. plum
Mirabel de Metz
Parfume Septemre plum
Cienocle Mirabelle E. plum
Sanois Purple plum
green gage plum
old green gage plum
Jiro plum
Kirkes Blue E. plum
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8736&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8736)

bencelest
03-18-2008, 06:36 PM
And on my satsuma plum I grafted many plums, plouts and nectarine.
Notice the pink flower of the (white) nectarine?compared to adjacent flowers (white).
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8737&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8737)

JoeReal
03-18-2008, 06:45 PM
Benny, check your email. I'll be sending you the unreleased Tachina plum. Need mailing address.

bencelest
03-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Thanks Joe.
PM sent.

JoeReal
03-18-2008, 10:54 PM
You can graft a feshly bought bare-rooted tree. You will just have to take out more than 4/5 of the original stems and then graft over them. By removing more than 80% of the existing stems, this gives enough balance for roots to support your grafts.

This is my new 5-n-1 cherry tree. Next year, it will have more. This is how some trees get started in my yard. I got them on the cheap from big box stores, prune severly and graft over them. So I love to select bare rooted fruit trees with nice branches. See how they are sprouting already? Some will even bear fruits the year they are grafted and doesn't seem to slow them down.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9819/5n1cherry.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-18

JoeReal
03-18-2008, 10:55 PM
This used to be a chance seedlings that grew from the fallen fruits of my multi-grafted plum tree. Now it is grafted over. No prunus seedling is safe in my yard. It will be off with their heads and be grafted over. I will dig this out next year and give as gifts to friends. The grafting operation on seedlings is the fastest. Less than a minute to do. In large trees, it takes me more than a day to graft, probably taking 23 hours and 58 minutes to decide where to graft and a couple of minutes to do the operation

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/451/wild01.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-18

JoeReal
03-18-2008, 10:59 PM
Aluminum Foil is used to shade out in case the sunlight gets too intense in the afternoon. Only the south side of the graft is shielded. Notice that the union is not covered with aluminum, only the upper scionwood. The scionwood that I used on this one is non-dormant. You can use non-dormant wood any time too, provided you keep the scionwood alive during transport in a cooled container, and then when you graft them, you will have to shield them from overheating, and one of the quickest way to do that is to use aluminum foil. Shown here is a non-dormant scionwood that I grafted.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7923/foil.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-18

JoeReal
03-18-2008, 11:03 PM
These lucky Flying Dragons, waiting in line to be grafted over. I'm just waiting for the growth flushes. The secret in grafting citrus successfully is to wait for the growth flushes. By then the barks would be slipping and the operation successful and actually faster to do. One way is to bring them indoors by the south facing window. But my room with that window is already crowded, so these lucky specimens are waiting it out for the warmer days to flush and then be grafted over with the best cultivars. Some lucky friends will receive these as gifts someday.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2351/FD01.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-18

bencelest
03-19-2008, 12:33 AM
Thanks for a very informative lessons on grafting Joe. They are all there waiting for us to do it only if you think about it. The trouble is, it never enters my mind.
Now you are giving me ideas.

bencelest
03-19-2008, 10:03 AM
Here's an apple pink something given to my wife by her coworker a member of CRFG. It was given when only about 6 inches tall. The main branch was already grafted 5 times to my Fuji apple due to an accident cut by unknown reason .
This is a good candidate as mother host for many other apples. Correct Joe? Newly transplanted on the ground.
I did not think of using this as mother host until you post the above pics.


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8759&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8759)

bencelest
03-19-2008, 10:10 AM
And yes a couple of days ago I grafted Granny apple and pippin apple to my Fuji and appear to be taking.
I still have pippin apple left from the CRFG meeting so I will graft them the the apple pink.
Also after drastically cut my Italian prune I pruned the Fuji apple .

mskitty38583
03-19-2008, 10:17 AM
question: when you prune your trees, can you root what you have pruned and still get the same kind of apples? or pears?

bencelest
03-19-2008, 10:36 AM
Mskitty:
Richard is the one who can answer you. My guess is yes because I used to do marcotting or air layering before and I get the same fruit when they fruit.

bencelest
03-19-2008, 11:12 AM
Here's a blynhym apricot grafted to flavored king plout as host mother

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8761&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8761)

Richard
03-19-2008, 11:29 AM
What a maniac! :)

mskitty38583
03-19-2008, 12:04 PM
well then thats great news. i might have to go prune my moms trees for her. she has 2-3 types of cherry, 2-3 types of necterines,a plum, and an apple and i think a pear tree. i dont eat half of these fruits, but i do love the blooms. and im sure the birds will love them. thank you!:coldbanana:

bencelest
03-19-2008, 12:56 PM
Richard:
Heh-heh!!
In case you are wondering how the fruits look like with some of my plants. here are some sample.

Italian prunes. not ripe yet
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8766&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8766)

Fuji apple

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8765&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8765)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8762&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8762)

Green gage plum

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8764&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8764)

Fuyo persimmon

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8767&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8767)

Asian pear

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8763&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8763)


I think I better stop now. They may banned me for uploading these pics.

JoeReal
03-19-2008, 10:11 PM
Nice fruits Benny!

JoeReal
03-19-2008, 10:12 PM
Now to keep this on topic,

Today, MArch 19, 2008 I have added more items to my multi-grafted citrus tree:

Sidi Aissa Clementine
China Satsuma S-6
China Satsuma S-9
Eustis Limequat
Nordmann Seedless Nagami
Centennial Variegated Kumquat

All were Bark-grafted. The barks are slipping nicely.

I have more coming...

MediaHound
03-19-2008, 10:20 PM
Wow Benny those are some awesome pictures. I am truly in awe.

bencelest
03-19-2008, 10:33 PM
And I 've grafted French prunes and European sweet prunes to Italian prunes as mother host 3 19 08

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8771&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8771)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8770&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8770)

bencelest
03-19-2008, 10:46 PM
Thanks for lavish praise to both of you Joe and Jarred.
the 1st picture the Italian prune I finally cut it drastically because as Richard said if you can't reach the fruit it's for the birds.
Hopefully next year it will fruit because it is so sweet and delicious.
I am learning a lot here. Thank you very much.

I forgot . I also grafted a pippin apple to a pink pearl A. Irwin apple.

jason
03-20-2008, 02:45 AM
Looks great!!!,,Hey do you know by chance how hard is it to graft angel trumpets because i have tried 5 different times and with no such luck the cane that im trying to graft onto the other angel trumpet shrivels up and dies every time??? any help would be great.Jason.

bencelest
03-20-2008, 09:39 AM
Jason:
There are many kinds of graft. And to get 100% take you apply a particular one depending on the season. Right now all the plants' bark are slipping so I am applying Joe real's bark graft method. I'll PM you if you want. Joe real is the one who taught me in person and also Mr. Buddiman and Mr. texas how to graft and almost always now they are 100% take.

JoeReal
03-20-2008, 09:51 AM
Early in the morning today, I have grafted Tachina plum. Benny is going to get some next week. You think that Sutter French Prune is big? The Tachina plum although similar in shape and color to the Sutter French Prune, is even bigger, and is juicier and geared towards the fresh fruit market. It is in the unreleased collection of the University of California, and so you will only find this amongst hobbyists.

JoeReal
03-20-2008, 09:54 AM
Early in the morning today, I have grafted Tachina plum. Benny is going to get some next week. You think that Sutter French Prune is big? The Tachina plum although similar in shape and color to the Sutter French Prune, is even bigger, and is juicier and geared towards the fresh fruit market. It is in the unreleased collection of the University of California, and so you will only find this amongst hobbyists.

Even though the Tachina plum can be argued as a prune, because it is European type (P. domestica) in terms of parentage, it can be called a plum because it is best eaten fresh. The plum moniker indicates that this is designed for the fresh fruit market. But plum or prune, I will try them fresh and dried. Hoping for some fruits in the Fall of next year.

JoeReal
03-20-2008, 10:01 AM
The really best time to graft during late spring to early summer time is early in the morning, an hour before until about a couple of hours past sunrise. At this early morning time, temperature of the scionwood and the air is not extreme, allows for your grafted scionwood very nice acclimitization as the day progresses. If you have grafted during the hottest time of the day, your scionwood in cold storage will suddenly feel like baking in the hot sun in so short a time. Although you will still get 100% take, the resulting scionwood will sometimes become stunted or take a long time to sprout. Hot days in spring to summer time, you will have to shield the graft from the sun.

Evenings when the temperature has cooled down is the second best time to graft. Just bring your shop lights. But if you are in Coastal Areas like where Benny is, or it is during the cool days of spring, anytime of the day is a good time to graft.

bencelest
03-20-2008, 10:15 AM
Wow! Thank you for the notes Joe. THAT, you don't read those from books.

bencelest
03-20-2008, 11:07 AM
More on grafts

Here's another branch of my flavored king plout.
Note: Maryann's apricot is not really its true name. It's the name of the donor. My wife brought a couple of apricots one day home and as I tasted it it was so good I resolved to grow one. So I asked my wife to ask Maryann to cut me a branch. It does not taste like Tiltons or Blynhym or the other imperial apricot but this one is superb tasting compared to any one of those. Maryann is a member of CRFG. The name of my wife's coworker is Maryann so I named it after her. Now I have about 7 or 8 branches that are growing.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8782&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8782)

JoeReal
03-20-2008, 12:21 PM
Thanks Benny! At least I can tell my wife that I am not alone in this grafting "craziness".

bencelest
03-20-2008, 01:12 PM
Shoot!
Someone called me a maniac. Not onlycrazy but maniac! Imagine that!:bananas_b

mskitty38583
03-20-2008, 01:14 PM
:0496::2200:. well at least your a colorful maniac.

bencelest
03-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Thank you Mskitty. I'll take that as a very nice compliment. :2745:

Richard
03-20-2008, 03:02 PM
The really best time to graft during late spring to early summer time is early in the morning, an hour before until about a couple of hours past sunrise. At this early morning time, temperature of the scionwood and the air is not extreme, allows for your grafted scionwood very nice acclimitization as the day progresses. If you have grafted during the hottest time of the day, your scionwood in cold storage will suddenly feel like baking in the hot sun in so short a time. Although you will still get 100% take, the resulting scionwood will sometimes become stunted or take a long time to sprout. Hot days in spring to summer time, you will have to shield the graft from the sun.

Evenings when the temperature has cooled down is the second best time to graft. Just bring your shop lights. But if you are in Coastal Areas like where Benny is, or it is during the cool days of spring, anytime of the day is a good time to graft.

I'll join Benny in thanking Joe for this information. It's a great insight to successful grafting.

:woohoonaner:

JoeReal
03-20-2008, 06:47 PM
You're welcome Richard!

My wife has been complaining that I caress my grafts more than her!

Benny's in worst situation than me, he has been locked out of the house by his dear wife several times already whenever she sees him caressing his plants.

mskitty38583
03-20-2008, 07:24 PM
ok heres a few solutions to the problem....dont let your wife see you doing it..tell her its better to caress the plants and trees then another woman...put a hammock in the yard. make sure you carry a spare key.:p

Richard
03-20-2008, 08:49 PM
You're welcome Richard!

My wife has been complaining that I caress my grafts more than her!

Benny's in worst situation than me, he has been locked out of the house by his dear wife several times already whenever she sees him caressing his plants.

I've never been that high on the priority list for someone to get jealous of the time I spend in the garden. From my wife's point of view, I'm nearly in last place, after the dog and before the cat. It's even worse with my teenage daughter, I'm in dead last place. The cat and I have worked this out though, I'm on the top of his buddy list.

bencelest
03-20-2008, 09:40 PM
I think let's form a club and cry to each others' shoulders.
Richard:
You and I are on the same boat. How many times I complained to my wife I was the last one on her priority list. I complained even our birds and cat has more priority than me.
The only one who treat me as an equal is my cat.
And even so she wants to be ahead of me when we go out in the garden and he would stand up and try to scratch the sliding door if she wants to get in. But once she is inside she would just walk straight ahead without even saying thank you or even look at you. As if it is your duty to open the door for her.

JoeReal
03-22-2008, 10:56 PM
Grafted Today, 3/22/2008:

Citrus:
Tango budded unto Mato Buntan Pummelo unto my soon to be 80-n-1 Citrus tree
Nordmann Seedless Nagami budded unto Carizzo (for Harvey)
Tango budded unto Carrizzo (for Harvey)
China Satsuma S-6 unto Flying Dragon (for my new Satsuma Collection)
China Satsuma S-6 budded unto Midknight Valencia


Persimmons ruled the day! All Bark Grafted.
Am topworking my lousy Giant Fuyu with better selections.
Saijo unto Giant Fuyu
Tamopan unto Giant Fuyu
Giant Fuyu (Dave Ulmer's selection which is sweeter) unto my lousy Giant Fuyu
Hana Fuyu unto Giant Fuyu
Gosho unto Giant Fuyu
Suruga Unto Giant Fuyu

D128 unto native American Persimmon
Nishijo unto D. lotus rootstock

Saijo unto Izu
Izu (Dave Ulmer's Selection) unto Izu
Imoto unto Izu
True Fuyu unto Izu

Imoto unto Jiro
Hana Fuyu unto Jiro
Hana Gosho unto Jiro
True Fuyu unto Jiro
Maekawa Jiro unto Jiro
Nishijo unto Jiro
Giant Fuyu (Dave Ulmer's) unto Jiro
Nishijo (from Val) unto Jiro

Richard
03-22-2008, 11:26 PM
Man, I'll say persimmons ruled the day. By the way, I am trying using D. lotus D56 as a starting point for palatable lotus fruits.

JoeReal
03-23-2008, 12:56 AM
Man, I'll say persimmons ruled the day. By the way, I am trying using D. lotus D56 as a starting point for palatable lotus fruits.

Wow, at least I now know of someone down South who loves native persimmons. How big does the D56 get? I've had some D. virginiana that fruited for me and they are seedless, but tiny, about half inch only, but very sweet.

Richard
03-23-2008, 02:33 AM
The previous curator told me their lotus fruits were an inch or so long. She wasn't to impressed with the fruit either. They are propagating them for root stocks. However, I looked up the locations the seeds of their lotus were collected from. My contact in northwest India tells me that they are popular in the foothill region stretching from there westward through northern Iran. The climate zone there is zone 10 albeit at 5,000 feet elevation. So I chose cultivars from that region
D56.2 (female)
D56.4 (male)
D67.2 (female)

In the next year or so they will also be able to release wood grown from the seeds of two lotus trees in the great valley of the Caucasus mountains. The cultivars there are famous in the sense that it is the location of the lotus-eaters in the Odyssey story recorded by Homer.

JoeReal
03-23-2008, 11:18 PM
Great info you have there Richard! At least I know where to look for more exotic options on persimmons.

JoeReal
03-23-2008, 11:19 PM
Grafted Today 03/23/2008

Persimmons:
Meader on D. lotus
Honan Red on Izu
Nishijo on Izu
Imoto on Izu
Dai-dai Maru on Izu
Jiro (selection 24276) on Izu
Nikitskaja Bordovaja on Izu
Jiro (selection 24276) on Jiro
Nikitskaja Bordovaja on D. virginiana

Apples:
Fiesta on Empire
Edward's on Duchess

Pears:
Yoinashi on spalding
Magness on Comice
Kosui on Comice
Chong's Pear on Spalding


And my poor hands!

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7773/cutfinger02.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-23


http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1562/cutfinger01.jpg
By joereal (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/joereal) at 2008-03-23

Richard
03-23-2008, 11:30 PM
Joe, I have tested this many times myself and found there is no cambrian layer in human fingers!

bencelest
03-24-2008, 04:14 PM
So far, I am still lucky. Perhaps the reason is I use my lips and spit when grafting.
I graft to my (newly planted) pink Pearl A. Irwin apple (this is the apple my wife's coworker gave her) 1 granny Smith apple and 1 pippin apple .
To my Fuji apple : 4 pink pearl A. Irwin apple, 2 Granny Smith apple.
Anybody know annything about the pink pearl A. Irwin apple?

JoeReal
03-24-2008, 05:16 PM
So far, I am still lucky. Perhaps the reason is I use my lips and spit when grafting.
I graft to my (newly planted) pink Pearl A. Irwin apple (this is the apple my wife's coworker gave her) 1 granny Smith apple and 1 pippin apple .
To my Fuji apple : 4 pink pearl A. Irwin apple, 2 Granny Smith apple.
Anybody know annything about the pink pearl A. Irwin apple?

Benny, those pink pearl are very vigorous and could take over if not tamed via pruning. They're on the tart side, at least here in Davis. They fruited on the same year I grafted them and yet, they're more vigorous than the host!

It is still too early for me to conclude about their taste. I'm giving them one more year before regrafting some of their branches. I will be keeping just a small branch for souvenir purposes and long term performance observation.

You have to try Fiesta apple. It is fireblight tolerant and taste good. Another good one to try is the Monark Apple. I'll give you some sticks next year if you want. I know that the Monark apple is not in the CRFG scionwood circulation yet.

chong
03-24-2008, 06:37 PM
Joe-
By now, you're more famous in the Philippines for the Easter pictures of your "plantation" in the Philippine Rare Fruit Group forum. Those bloom pictures were gorgeous, esp., given the clear day that it was taken. I don't know if you've posted them here also.

bencelest
03-24-2008, 06:51 PM
Chong:
I bet Pacqiaou is more famous than Joe. Nice close fight. Huh!
Thanks Joe.
Yes, very vigorous. From 6 inches the first year and 3 feet the 2nd year. I graft them 8 days ago and are starting to bud. 2 leaves at least.
Oh, yes, if you can spare some.
I can use the pink pearl as the mother host.
The reason why I graft a Granny Smith apple is that
I am in for apple pies. My kids like my apple pies even though I was using the Fuji.
There's nothing taste better than home cooking! That's why I got me some granny apples at the CRFG meeting. I am also experimenting how to make the dough. Any takers?

chong
03-24-2008, 07:00 PM
Chong:
I bet Pacqiaou is more famous than Joe. Nice close fight. Huh!
Thanks Joe.
Yes, very vigorous. From 6 inches the first year and 3 feet the 2nd year. I graft them 8 days ago and are starting to buds. 2 leaves at least.

Who is Pacquiao?????? (LOL)

Richard
03-24-2008, 07:51 PM
<snip>There's nothing taste better than home cooking! That's why I got me some granny apples at the CRFG meeting. I am also experimenting how to make the dough. Any takers? </snip>

On most Mondays I bake breads and such, and Thursday is the day for making pasta. My favorite pie dough recipies are from the Joy of Cooking. Its a good instruction manual. Another good choice is The Pie and Pastry Bible by Rose Beranbaum.

bencelest
03-24-2008, 09:44 PM
Thanks Richard. I'll look for them asap.

What I graft today:
About 6 Asian apple scions that I got from my sister's place 2 years ago and grafted to the Fuji apple.. I cut some branches and put them on the same Fuji apple tree except at the canopy tops . The Fuji is getting too high to reach the fruits with my 4 foot ladder.
This Asian apple is superb in taste nowhere else I can buy. It was given to my sister by a Japanese old man which is their close friend.
This Asian apple are starting to bear flowers too.

Richard
03-24-2008, 10:00 PM
Benny,
The asian apple you have grafted: I wonder if it would bear fruit at my location. What is the estimated chill hours at your location? Mine is 250-300.

bencelest
03-24-2008, 11:39 PM
Richard:
I don't know really because I don't pay attention to that anymore. I am guestimating 200 to 400. Like my cherry trees, I did not think it will thrive in here since I did not see any tree being grown so one year I had the courage to try it and presto: I have a lot of cherry fruits.
So the only way to do it is try it.
Want some?
I don't have much thou since it's only 2 years old but I have a few grafted on different branch.

JoeReal
03-24-2008, 11:58 PM
March 24, 2008.

Grafted today:
No more Nordmann Seedless scionwood!
Nordmann Seedless Nagami budded unto Flying Dragon.
Nordmann Seedless Nagami budded unto Chironja Grapefruit.
Nordmann Seedless Nagami bark grafted unto Harvey's rootstock.

Peruvian Lime bark grafted unto Eureka Lemon.
Giant Key Lime bark grafted unto Bearss Lime.
Giant Key Lime bark grafted unto Sour Orange.

Richard
03-25-2008, 12:00 AM
Benny, next February before it starts budding out I would like to obtain a stick. I'm a root-ing toot-ing sort of guy.

:ropingnaner:

Thanks!

Richard
03-25-2008, 12:12 AM
March 24, 2008.

Grafted today:
No more Nordmann Seedless scionwood!
Nordmann Seedless Nagami budded unto Flying Dragon.
Nordmann Seedless Nagami budded unto Chironja Grapefruit.
Nordmann Seedless Nagami bark grafted unto Harvey's rootstock.

Peruvian Lime bark grafted unto Eureka Lemon.
Giant Key Lime bark grafted unto Bearss Lime.
Giant Key Lime bark grafted unto Sour Orange.

Yummmmmmmmmmmm! Nordmann Seedless is the Fortunella to have!

Peruvian Lime unto Eureka Lemon seems like an excellent choice for hardiness and production.

Giant Key Lime is a little blah for me, I'm hoping on Sour Orange it might obtain some more flavor.

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 12:29 AM
Yummmmmmmmmmmm! Nordmann Seedless is the Fortunella to have!

Peruvian Lime unto Eureka Lemon seems like an excellent choice for hardiness and production.

Giant Key Lime is a little blah for me, I'm hoping on Sour Orange it might obtain some more flavor.

Thanks for the comments! At least I won't regret it that much if I can't get the Giant Key Lime going this season.

This is my second try of grafting Giant Key Lime. It is so difficult as my other trials with these end up dying. Narrowed it down to just a few. I would still be grafting the Giant Key Lime unto a sweet orange, but that would be for tomorrow morning.

It was only recently that the Giant Key Lime budwood became available from the UCR CCPP program from their screenhouse plants. The first time it was available, I bought budwoods but all of them failed. The Giant Key Lime from UCR is supposed to be cold hardier than the normal Key Limes, but the same taste. I didn't know the Peruvian lime is hardy.

There are some problems with limes in that they are susceptible to Tristeza and also have wood pocket problems for the grafted trees. I also obtained the Bearss lime selected by Florida and released to California UCR CCPP program, and is a recently released lime without the wood pocket problem. Wood pocket can shorten the life of grafted trees.

I have no idea about Peruvian lime. A good friend of mine in the Bay Area sent me a tiny stick. I hope it will take.

Yes, the Nordmann. I already have it growing on my Calamondin, but I wanted more branches, and so ordered more budwoods and then grafted the extra to Harvey's rootstock. So I ran out of that budwood.

I will be working on my lemon tree this weekend, adding more lemons from UCR CCPP. Perhaps I have about 5 more types of lemons to add. I would also be adding Yuzu and Sudachi on top of the tree. I love the zest of Yuzu and Sudachi, they're excellent aromas for the citrus wines that I make.

Next season, I will be assembling a lime tree but hope to be on Flying Dragon Rootstock. I would be grafting Sour Orange unto FD, then the limes unto the SO. I plan to assemble Kaffir, Florida Bearss, Key, Giant Key, Peruvian, Mary Ellen, Palestinian Sweet, Ginger, and on the top canopy Eustis Limequat and Tavares Limequat.

But as usual, my tree designs are subject to changes depending on budwood availability.

Richard
03-25-2008, 01:26 AM
The Peruvian Lime is not hardy nor weak, but I was commenting on the choice of the robust Eureka as a host. This sounds like a good match and I hope it works for you.

Wood pocket is a nasty bugger and I'm happy to learn about a Bearss cultivar that is not susceptible.

I was perplexed about which lime to grow at home until Toots introduced me to the Taveres Limequat. I haven't acquired one yet -- hopefully I will finish the reserved planter for it this summer.

I forgot about your love of wine-making from fruits. Given the lemons you have named, I think a Libyan Blood Orange wine would match your tastes!

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 02:45 AM
The Peruvian Lime is not hardy nor weak, but I was commenting on the choice of the robust Eureka as a host. This sounds like a good match and I hope it works for you.

Wood pocket is a nasty bugger and I'm happy to learn about a Bearss cultivar that is not susceptible.

I was perplexed about which lime to grow at home until Toots introduced me to the Taveres Limequat. I haven't acquired one yet -- hopefully I will finish the reserved planter for it this summer.

I forgot about your love of wine-making from fruits. Given the lemons you have named, I think a Libyan Blood Orange wine would match your tastes!

I will never be able to make my own blood orange wine. I have a large tree filled with all the publicly available blood orange cultivars from UCR. The fruits are so good that they don't get to the fruit bowl. If ever they make it there, they won't last a day. I just got me the newest addition, the Delfino.

But I also discovered that one branch of my Salustiana sweet orange had developed the splotches of blood pigmentation within the flesh. This has not been observed before. Other references states that the Salustiana has deeper orange flesh, but mine used to be like that and this year it changed into a blood orange pigmentation pattern. I grafted this unto a Moro blood orange and may have been "contaminated" or mutated in the process, after all, we have more extreme temperature fluctuations here in the North than in the South, something that enhances blood pigmentation in citruses.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8880&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8880&ppuser=10)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8881&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8881&ppuser=10)

Richard
03-25-2008, 10:34 AM
Joe, I initially didn't notice it in the photo of the half-slices, but the specks are more evident in the photo of thin slices. Then taking a second look at the half slices -- wow, there is a lot of it.

I remember reading that there are two different biological processes that lead to this coloration in citrus: one that is present in the seeds and ovum, and another which at least phenotypically only occurs in the fruit. Any idea which you have?

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 10:42 AM
Joe, I initially didn't notice it in the photo of the half-slices, but the specks are more evident in the photo of thin slices. Then taking a second look at the half slices -- wow, there is a lot of it.

I remember reading that there are two different biological processes that lead to this coloration in citrus: one that is present in the seeds and ovum, and another which at least phenotypically only occurs in the fruit. Any idea which you have?

I'm scratching my head on that one. I was extremely surprised myself. The only difference this time is that I was testing it for keeping quality on the tree. Although the Salustiana were ready last December, I left a lot of them on the tree to keep track of their quality through time, and then on Valentine's day, when I opened the slice on a particular branch, I found that coloration. All of the fruits on that branch are like that, but not on other, and traced that the particular salustiana branch was grafted unto Moro. The taste kept better and I think it has at least a medium keeping quality on the tree if not very good. But I ran out of fruits before my taste was over due to all this excitement and sampling with other friends.

I will test that branch later and graft it to something else and see if it carries over, then perhaps I will have a better idea. If this is a stable sport, I might call it Vallentine Salustiana, non-patent of course to be shared with others. Only time will tell if this just a fluke or a stable sport. Could be just be scion and stock interaction with Moro Blood orange and may be non-transferrable.

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 01:41 PM
March 25, 2008:
Grafted this morning.
Giant Key lime unto Trovita orange.
Ruby persimmon unto D. lotus
Mercatel persimmon unto D. lotus
Cibaca persimmon unto D. lotus

Richard
03-25-2008, 03:27 PM
<snip>I will test that branch later and graft it to something else and see if it carries over, then perhaps I will have a better idea. If this is a stable sport, I might call it Vallentine Salustiana, non-patent of course to be shared with others. Only time will tell if this just a fluke or a stable sport. Could be just be scion and stock interaction with Moro Blood orange and may be non-transferrable.</snip>

Not to be confused with the Valentine "grapefruit", which is (Dancy mandarin x Ruby blood orange) x Siamese Sweet pumelo. ;)

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 03:55 PM
Not to be confused with the Valentine "grapefruit", which is (Dancy mandarin x Ruby blood orange) x Siamese Sweet pumelo. ;)

It is often confused as a grapefruit, can't blame you, but technically it is a pummelo, based on other friends at UCR. Sure I know that pummelo very well. It is not publicly available yet. But willing to give an arm and leg if I can obtain budwoods of Valentine.


http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/valentine1.jpg

Richard
03-25-2008, 04:39 PM
It is often confused as a grapefruit, can't blame you, but technically it is a pummelo, based on other friends at UCR. Sure I know that pummelo very well. It is not publicly available yet. But willing to give an arm and leg if I can obtain budwoods of Valentine.


True, the use of quotes around "grapefruit" are intended to alert people that it is grapefruit-like -- at least the produce distributors feel it would have more appeal this way.

I'll see what I can do.

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 04:47 PM
True, the use of quotes around "grapefruit" are intended to alert people that it is grapefruit-like -- at least the produce distributors feel it would have more appeal this way.

I'll see what I can do.

Would be extremely grateful if you can make it possible....
Would be willing to trade all pups from my banana collection.

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 05:19 PM
Citrus Grafting Tip.

Effect of temperature.

For most citruses:

Best maximum day time temperature for callousing is 75 deg F to 85 deg F. The quicker your grafts callouses, the better are your chances of take. If you have consistent day time temperature within this range, it will have the best success rate. 70 deg F would be the lower limit and 90 deg F would be the higher limit of good callousing that result in most successful grafting or budding. These temperatures are the best, and they should not kill your grafts. If your grafts die at these temperature range, it could be another issue unrelated to temperature.

When it gets over 90 deg F, shield with aluminum foil.

bencelest
03-25-2008, 06:07 PM
Nice conversation going with you two but let me intervene before I forget. I grafted 4 scions of Joe's calamondin to a matured Eureka lemon tree. I was encouraged by the fact that I saw a Joe's calamondin took and is about 4 inches long as a trial basis perhaps 8 months ago. Oh, I have grafted dream orange, fokumuko orange, chandler pommelo there at Eureka lemon as host plant and they are big and going strong but no fruits yet. But being a novice a couple of years ago, I did not know where to graft. I used to graft wherever is easy and what is easy is inside the canopy and about 5 feet in height. I graft to wherever a small sport comes out from the main trunk. So there were no sunshine and usually other branches would take over the space. But many times my graft take and but are struggling to get some sunshine.
Now I know better.
More 2 Asian apples scion to Fuji the leftover from yesterday.

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 06:21 PM
Benny, that is correct. A piece of the sunshine should fall on your graft at least part of the day. That is why sometimes, it takes me more than a day to decide where to graft but just a minute to do the grafting once it is decided. The more cultivars you have on a tree, the harder it will be to find a suitable place to graft them.

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 10:26 PM
March 25, 2008 6:05 PM
grafted this evening:

Sour Orange T-budded unto Meyer
Sour Orange side veneer grafted unto Eureka
Sour Orange bark grafted unto Rio Star Grapefruit

Ruby Persimmon unto Izu
Mikatani Gosho persimmon unto Izu
Ukraina persimmon unto Izu

Richard
03-25-2008, 10:49 PM
Mmmmm ... yum.

Have you tasted the Matsumoto Wase persimmon?

JoeReal
03-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Mmmmm ... yum.

Have you tasted the Matsumoto Wase persimmon?

Yes. A little bit bland than a True Fuyu. The major advantage of M. Wase is that it is a month earlier than the regular Fuyu. It is completely seedless even if it is surrounded by many male persimmon flowers from other cultivars.

I have harvested mine starting second week of August for the past three years. Fruits get better and darker orange if left longer on the tree. The birds and roof rats love persimmons more than other fruits, so I harvest them as soon as they're ready.

I have more than 60 different kinds of persimmons. I've tasted about 30 kinds of persimmon fruits. But will have to do formal tasting one of these days. One persimmon tree has now 50 cultivars on it.

island cassie
03-26-2008, 12:19 AM
This is totally out of my field of expertise, but if anyone would be willing to let me have some seeds of anything outside of persian limes, key limes, meyers lemons or lisbon lemons that they think would be worth growing, I would be eternally grateful!! The citrus here are poor beyond belief and decent oranges, grapefruit, satsumas etc are just not available. Bitter orange rootstock I can get - but nothing to graft onto it and I can grow my own stock for that if I can get seeds for topstock for grafting. I have been spreading lemons (hitherto unheard of) around locally and have some seedy pink grapefruit. please pm me if you have anything you would like to send me.

Cassie

JoeReal
03-26-2008, 08:42 AM
This is totally out of my field of expertise, but if anyone would be willing to let me have some seeds of anything outside of persian limes, key limes, meyers lemons or lisbon lemons that they think would be worth growing, I would be eternally grateful!! The citrus here are poor beyond belief and decent oranges, grapefruit, satsumas etc are just not available. Bitter orange rootstock I can get - but nothing to graft onto it and I can grow my own stock for that if I can get seeds for topstock for grafting. I have been spreading lemons (hitherto unheard of) around locally and have some seedy pink grapefruit. please pm me if you have anything you would like to send me.

Cassie

Cassie, the major season's almost over. Aside from different kinds of Lemons and Calamondins, I can collect seeds of my Mandarinquats (for sure) and Sanguinelli Blood Orange (maybe, sometimes they don't have seeds). I still have them hanging on my trees. I may have some more fruits, but most are in the true seedless category. Is it legally okay for you to receive seeds?

You know that in the US Citrus industry, we have an extremely contorted definition of what seedless citrus is. If a fruit contains 6 or fewer seeds, then they are categorized as seedless. By this definition, all of my kumquats and calamondins are seedless!

JoeReal
03-26-2008, 08:45 AM
Am just eagerly waiting for the sun to come out so that I can start grafting. I finished grafting last night at 7:00 pm ad have to use shop lights. I can't do that light thing early in the morning or risked disturbing the sleep patterns of the neighbors.

I'm just 25% of the way in grafting my citruses. Persimmons are all done now.

JoeReal
03-26-2008, 11:44 AM
Found that I have a Broken Heart Plum that has sprouted while in the Fridge. Cleaned that out and used non-dormant style grafting.

Broken Heart Plum is a sport mutation of Elephant Heart Plum and there is quite a story to it. Tastes as good as Elephant Heart Plum but has distinct pattern of coloration.

Also grafted this morning, March 26, 2008:
Mandalo unto Rio Star Grapefruit.
Interdonato Lemon unto Eureka Lemon.

Richard
03-26-2008, 11:49 AM
<snip>
I'm just 25% of the way in grafting my citruses. </snip>

(dumbstruck) !

JoeReal
03-26-2008, 12:10 PM
(dumbstruck) !

I know, I know... Even my dog notices the extreme. I've got more than 300 buds from this last January budwood cutting from UCR CCPP. I still have long ways to go. Been grafting for friends too. I normally do more than 1,200 grafts a year, for free.

Next year will just be corrective grafting for balance. I repeat to myself, no more additions! No more additions! No more additions!

I'm sure I'll be back to square one before the end of the season.

bencelest
03-26-2008, 12:51 PM
Ha!
I thought I was finish grafting. But here I am in my yard early morning and grafted the following to my matured Eureka lemon.
But ...First I thought all I had graft to the Eureka were on the above list but I found more. Here they are:
fokumoko orange
meyer lemon
honey mandarin
W. murcott
mayagawa satsuma
silverhill mandarin

There are 2 cultivars that are flowering: the Chandler pommelo and the dream navel.
Now I grafted 4 seedless kishu and 2 clemenules this morning when I saw a very robust, large leaves Joe clemenule were hiding from many leaves so I trim the Eureka leaves so the clemenule will have no sunlight competition and it will grow more.

JoeReal
03-27-2008, 01:06 AM
Grafted tonight:
3 lemon cultivars added to my lemon tree. Will put labels tomorrow.
2 mandarin type hybrids added to my multi-grafted citrus.
Mandarin hybrid unto Flying Dragon
UnNamed Lemon hybrid unto Volkameriana

Richard
03-27-2008, 01:25 AM
:woohoonaner:

JoeReal
03-27-2008, 10:50 AM
Cannot graft today! :( :( :(

Have to leave for work to service the servers long before the crack of dawn! Then go back home to entertain and cook BBQ and feed 8 families who have no interest about grafting plants.

mskitty38583
03-27-2008, 11:45 AM
sounds like you are in for a VERY long night. there has got to be someone in that group that has to be a plant freak. maybe they are in denial, or just dont know the thrills of watching a plant develope, or a grafting work its magic. i find it facinating.

JoeReal
03-27-2008, 12:36 PM
sounds like you are in for a VERY long night. there has got to be someone in that group that has to be a plant freak. maybe they are in denial, or just dont know the thrills of watching a plant develope, or a grafting work its magic. i find it facinating.

Good Idea! I might sucker them to watch a grafting "demo" while I'll actually add more lemon cultivars unto my lemon tree.

I'll still be adding these sour types from topmost part of canopy to the lowest part of the canopy unto my multi-grafted lemon tree:
Sudachi
Yuzu
Tavares Limequat
Eustis Limequat
Smooth Flat Seville
Seedless lemon
Ponderosa
kaffir lime

bencelest
03-27-2008, 12:44 PM
I did not graft today but want to show you what I grafted before:

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8918&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8918)

Richard
03-27-2008, 01:28 PM
I did not graft today but want to show you what I grafted before

WOW!

Notice how plum trees this spring in California are encrusted with flower buds?

JoeReal
03-27-2008, 01:45 PM
WOW!

Notice how plum trees this spring in California are encrusted with flower buds?

Exactly right Richard!
There's lots of thinning work ahead. I prefer this problem than the one with no flowers at all.

bencelest
03-28-2008, 10:37 AM
I don't thin my fruits except my citrus. THAT would be work with a capital T.
Here's more to the graft story.
I graft :
2 meyer lemon
2 Bearss lemon
and thinking that Joe's clemenule mandarin is growing very nice to the Eureka lemon, I graft the following:
2 Daisy mandarin
2 Page Mandarin
2 Pixie Mandarin

let's see if they are compatible.

Richard
03-28-2008, 11:09 AM
I don't thin my fruits except my citrus. THAT would be work with a capital T. <snip>

In the first year or two of planting in the ground, I remove all the fruit from a tree since 1 fruit is about equal to 4 feet of branch growth. Otherwise, I thin all the fruit on my trees except citrus to a 4 to 5 inch spacing which results in a harvest at least 200 fruits per tree. Citrus are better at self-regulating themselves.

JoeReal
03-28-2008, 11:16 AM
Most of those would be compatible.

I didn't graft yesterday.... :(

Not even did a demo...

My guests were interested in the Fruit Tasting when I gave them a short step tour of the yard. Shown them the 350 or more cultivars in just about 150 footsteps.

Limequats, Mandarinquats and Kumquats (Meiwa, Nagami, Nordmann) got different reactions. Then showed them how to eat properly and they loved it. You eat the rinds of these fruits. To make it excellent tasting, simply roll the fruits in between your palms as hard as you can but not bursting them. This is to bruise the skin and remove the oils (bletting), then bite unto them. It removes a lot of the rind's pungency and you are left with sweet tasting rinds that have a tart flesh, very interesting flavor battling it out in your tongue. Truly delightful.

We tasted the fruits of Yosemite Gold. I intentionally left these fruits for testing their keeping quality on the tree. These fruits were ready since last November. Was extremely surprised to find them very juicy, sweet with a little sprightness like they are supposed to. I think they could stay longer more than 5 months once they ripen. I would rate the Yosemite Gold mandarin as good keeper. The best place to store your fruits are on the tree.

Then the last to be tasted are my Sanguinelli blood orange. Was extremely surprised to find them very juicy and sweet that I would rank them better than the Moro Blood oranges this year.

Still waiting to be picked are Oro Blancos, Chironja, Valencias and the Melogold fruits from Benny's scionwood that I grafted some years ago.

Will try to attempt grafting this afternoon before the rains start to fall.

Never graft when it is raining, I can assure you that it will be one of the lowest success rate.

bencelest
03-28-2008, 11:39 AM
Most of those would be compatible.

I didn't graft yesterday.... :(

Not even did a demo...

My guests were interested in the Fruit Tasting when I gave them a short step tour of the yard.

I understand their feelings Joe. Only a crazy guys like us would be interested. They are only interested on what they can eat. Even fishing. They'd rather go to the store and buy fish than fish for it.

Anyways thanks for the encouragement that they are compatible.
My reasoning for not picking the fruits of my trees are that I wanted to taste them first before I let them grow. 2nd I want them small so I can reach for the fruit.
Question: Should I flocked all the cherries of my 2 plants if I want them grow?
They are so full of flowers but did not grow much for the last 2 years now. But I am eating a lot of mouthfuls in 2 years now. And the birds.

JoeReal
03-28-2008, 11:50 AM
Question: Should I flocked all the cherries of my 2 plants if I want them grow?
They are so full of flowers but did not grow much for the last 2 years now. But I am eating a lot of mouthfuls in 2 years now. And the birds.


You can try plucking them off. But cherries are one of those fruit trees that are not affected by thinning. Certainly it should help the growth even if just a little bit. So you can forego some cherries this year. Anyway, the cherries in the fruit stands will be truly cheap this year at peak harvest time...

bencelest
03-28-2008, 05:57 PM
But you ought to taste my Prince Ranier cherries!
They are so very sweet and juicy.
Nah!
I just want to make you drool.
Yes, it is true that them cherries will be cheap. So are the navel oranges nowadays. 10 cents a lb. at the produce market. And they are so big and so sweet my wife eats that only for lunch. I've been juicing them, ate them fresh, and I've been using them for breakfast and dinner.

JoeReal
03-28-2008, 07:23 PM
I will be tasting your Prince Rainier Cherries next year! Thanks Benny! That is why we mostly grow what is not being sold commercially.

I went home before the rains fell and I was able to graft some more:

Ponderosa budded unto Lisbon
Ponderosa budded unto Rio Star
Seedless Lemon budded unto Lisbon
Seedess lemon bark grafted unto Chironja
Kaffir Lime bark grafted unto Eureka.

Seedless lemon budwood all gone now...

Then the rains hit, and so I scampered inside and I taught my daughter how to graft and so she grafted Chironja grapefruit unto an apple. Lisbon unto an apple. Apple unto an apple. She also budded Chironja unto Lisbon and Lisbon unto Chironja. She did not do a great job with bark grafting, but she is like a pro at T-budding, both the regular and inverted T. Forget the Apple and Citrus grafting, it was just a practice for her, those were from the left-over wood from all of my grafting that she practiced on. Next time, I will have her T-bud when the rains are over. I bet, it is going to cost me...

bencelest
03-29-2008, 09:34 AM
I will be tasting your Prince Rainier Cherries next year! Thanks Benny! That is why we mostly grow what is not being sold commercially.

I went home before the rains fell and I was able to graft some more:

Ponderosa budded unto Lisbon
Ponderosa budded unto Rio Star
Seedless Lemon budded unto Lisbon
Seedess lemon bark grafted unto Chironja
Kaffir Lime bark grafted unto Eureka.

. Next time, I will have her T-bud when the rains are over. I bet, it is going to cost me...

You are welcome Joe. So those cherry sticks took?
Anyway, as far as my kids are concern, it cost me OK but I made them think that I am paying them for their help in my yard but to me that's their allowance.
They are the ones who installed the pergola, raised the soil with bark chips, cow manure, small rocks and compost at the pergola, removed all the grass at the slope end and cover them with bark chips etc......

chong
03-29-2008, 04:30 PM
I was watering my greenhouse plants and to my horror, I found my Calamonidins stripped of their bark! And they were flushing really good, with lots of flower buds, too.

Good thing I noticed it now, because, just minutes before, I was taking pictures of the conditions in there but did not notice it then. I was taking pictures of the White Champaca for the yellowing of its leaves for another thread here. While doing so, I noticed that some of the plants needed watering.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8940&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8940&ppuser=567)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8939&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8939&ppuser=567)

I wonder if what I'm thinking makes sense to you that are experts at grafting. For the moment, I'm ruling out buying rootstock to double graft onto these babies because I think that between UPS and the CaDA, the best that I'm looking at is a week before they get here, and the rootstock will have to establish roots themselves. But I will call Frank at Citrus Nursery on Monday morning to see what is the best shipping scenario I can work out with them.

Another thing I'm thinking of doing is to Bridge Bark Graft over the wounds. I have a large "Citromello" that has three 1-inch trunks that I can get scion barks from. What I do not know is what it would do to the Citromello, if I were to remove 1/4" x 4" strips at random places. And, even, if it's going to work. (I got the Citromello [Ponciros Trifoliata x Pummelo cross] from the Raintree Nursery 14 years ago, and it was at least 3 years old when I got it.)

Another is whether just adding soil and enough to cover the wounds would work to save them. Sort of, like a modified air layering.

I suspect that rats are the culprits on this. Twenty years ago, the same thing happened to two 4-ft tall Babaco Papayas. They ate about 4-inches of the trunk at the base. I didn't know then that these may be grown from cuttings, so I just promptly disposed of them.

I would really appreciate any feedback.

Chong

chong
03-29-2008, 05:21 PM
One other thing I forgot to ask is, can I just wrap the wounds with grafting tape? I would suspect that for those trunks that have continuity with their bark, it would probably work. But what about those that do not?

Thanks again for any help.

Richard
03-29-2008, 08:28 PM
YIKES! It looks like they took the cambrian layer with the bark in which case those plants are dead. I hope Joe Real pipes in here soon with his suggestion.

bencelest
03-29-2008, 09:18 PM
I agree with Richard. If the cambial layer is gone all around the bark, the roots can not feed the leaves anymore so it will eventually die. Wrapping the bark with grafting tape will do no good either because the upper part of the tree has to be fed somehow.That's why in grafting you only leave 2 to 3 buds (max) because of limited supply of sap the host mother can supply. Bridging with another bark from another tree will work maybe if you will drastically cut the top tree and leave just enough length enough to the bridged bark to supply the food. That in itself is not guaranteed either. You'll have to wrap the grafted bark and most of the plant to protect it from the sun and bacteria. Just like you are grafting.
This is my opinion only and I must admit I am not an expert like Joe is.

JoeReal
03-29-2008, 11:13 PM
One other thing I forgot to ask is, can I just wrap the wounds with grafting tape? I would suspect that for those trunks that have continuity with their bark, it would probably work. But what about those that do not?

Thanks again for any help.

Chong, this is an emergency. Try to learn bridge grafting. It is like bark grafting but you do it on both ends to "bridge" the girdled portion. I can send you loads of calamondin sticks via Fedex if you want, and you can use these calamondin sticks for your bridge graft.

I just helped my professor topwork his giant pummelo tree and I have plenty of Calamondin branches that I have sacrificed. I will get some more and send it over should you want to try. Bridge grafting is the only option right now.

Joe

JoeReal
03-29-2008, 11:20 PM
Grafted today in my yard:

Sudachi bark grafted unto topmost limb of Eureka
Sudachi T-budded unto topmost limb of my 79-n-1 tree, so it is now 80-n-1, should it take. Sudachi was T-budded unto Miho Wase branch.
Limonero Messina bark grafted unto Chironja
Limonero Messina bark grafted unto Eureka
Small Flat Seville bark grafted unto Chironja
Small Flat Seville bark grafted unto Meyer

Grafted at my Professor's yard (all bark grafts) with the help of a friend and my daughter:
Lane Late unto Washington Navel (3 places)
Vainiglia Sanguigno unto Washington Navel (2 places)
Calamondin unto Chandler Pummelo, complete topworking (23 places)
Tavares Limequat unto Chandler (1 place)

chong
03-30-2008, 02:06 AM
Chong, this is an emergency. Try to learn bridge grafting. It is like bark grafting but you do it on both ends to "bridge" the girdled portion. I can send you loads of calamondin sticks via Fedex if you want, and you can use these calamondin sticks for your bridge graft.

I just helped my professor topwork his giant pummelo tree and I have plenty of Calamondin branches that I have sacrificed. I will get some more and send it over should you want to try. Bridge grafting is the only option right now.

Joe

Thank you very much, Joe! I did not think about the actual bridge grafting. In my original post regarding this, I was asking whether Bark Bridge Grafting might work, if I get bark material from my Citromello. But I was afraid that it might not work on the damaged plants, and at the same time harm the Citromello.

Yes, Joe. If you can send me wood for bridging, I would be extremely grateful. I have an account with FedEX, though I might have to look for my account number before I can send it to you. However, just to let you know, although I have not done it personally before, I have watched how they do it at the WA Horticultural Society meetings. And also, coincidentally, I have a couple of pounds of grafting sealer wax and a roll of grafting tape.

Please let me know what other information you need from me. Also, please let me know what I can do to keep my plants on a holding pattern and not deteriorate while waiting for the graft wood. Like for example, should I cut out most of the leaves near petiole, etc.? Do I do anything to the exposed wounds?

Thanks again for your help.

Chong

chong
03-30-2008, 02:29 AM
Sorry if my previous post did not make any sense. I am more than just a little paranoid. But now, I realize that there is some hope. I will be looking forward to possibly an all-nighter when the graft wood from Joe arrives, so I can graft them right away.

It's interesting that this would happen to me, when just a couple of days ago, I was looking at my Citronello, and I was wondering if it's not too late to graft into it. And whether I could still get grafting wood from anyone.

Well, Joe, if you saved any of the wood you cut out from your professor's giant pummelo, I would be very interested in some. For that matter, I would be very interested in anything else. I believe that my Citromello can host quite a few varieties.

Also, Joe, I have a couple of larger (2-ft) Calamondins that are growing a couple of branches at the base that have thorns on them. They have the regular citrus leaves, not trifoliate. If they are the correct size, will these be useful. I can do it for the most damaged plant, while waiting for the wood from you.

Talking about getting bark from the Citromello, the timing could not have been worse. It snowed last night, and now it's snowing again. Would have been pretty difficult trying to control my knife cutting, trying to get the bark, while I'm shivering. I was just so ecstatic with your suggestion and offer.

Thanks again so much.

Chong

bencelest
03-31-2008, 06:09 PM
I did not graft today but I saw something that surprised me. Here's a Blynhym apricot that I grafted on a King flavored plout on 7/8/07 and this morning I accidentally looked at it and there were 4 fruits hiding.
Here they are:

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8986&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8986)

bencelest
03-31-2008, 06:15 PM
Not only that!
I have a few branches that I grafted maryann's apricot and here's one branch that all took. Grafted almost the same time as above. Her apricot was so sweet and juicy I did not stop until I got me a branch. You will too once you taste them once.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=8988&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8988)

paula
08-06-2008, 08:13 AM
Can any one give a good place to look for
more info on grafting sounds like something
I would like to try.
Thanks Paula

Richard
08-06-2008, 09:45 AM
Can any one give a good place to look for
more info on grafting sounds like something
I would like to try.
Thanks Paula

Here's an excellent place to start: The Techniques of Grafting DVD (http://home.att.net/~oc_crfg/DVD-ORDER-FORM.htm), produced by the Orange County CRFG Chapter (http://home.att.net/~oc_crfg).

bencelest
09-03-2008, 09:09 AM
I grafted 2 Meyer lemon to my Eureka. I got the budwood from a friend where I noticed the fruits of the meyer were so many.
Also 3 apple pear to an Asian pear tree.

john_ny
03-19-2009, 11:52 AM
Over the years, I have done many grafts. Some time ago, I would do several hundred fruit trees, each year, for my nursery business. Lately, demand has slacked off somewhat. I think this is due to the fact that we are more crowded than we were, land prices have risen, and yards are smaller.
Since I am in New York, most of what I did were temperate, rather than tropical, fruits; apples, pears, peaches, plums, apricots, and cherries. I have been most successful with whip and tongue grafts, which are done in the winter, when trees are dormant, but have also done some T buds, and chip buds, which are done when the trees are growing, and the bark slips. Peaches are normally budded, in the summer, because the grafts don't take well in cold weather. I wanted to graft, rather than bud, some peaches. I solved the problem, by potting up the rootstocks and taking them in the greenhouse, in late winter, doing the grafts, and leaving them in the warm house for the union to heal.
A good little hint: I wrap the grafts, or buds, with a laboratory film, called, "Parafilm". This is a very stretchy plastic film, that adheres to itself (but without glue). You do not have to remove it. It stretches, as the union swells and, eventually, just falls off. On a bud, you don't have to wrap it above, and below, the bud. You can tape right over the bud and it will grow right through the tape.

harveyc
03-20-2009, 05:27 PM
I use Parafilm also, especially for my citrus, avocado, white sapote grafts. One of my favorite grafting tapes these days is masking tape. I buy mine at Ace Hardware, their own brand, for $.99 when on sale and have used it on about a couple thousand grafts for chestnuts but also some other temperate things. It sticks even better than Parafilm, has more strength, and tears when the union swells if you don't make too many wraps. I do use Doc Farwell's grafting sealer also, though. Buds are just pushing on chestnuts now, except for a few earlybirds, and I will wait another couple of weeks before doing another round of grafts (only about 200 this year as I'm about done with my expansion/conversion project).

Patty in Wisc
03-23-2009, 06:13 PM
Well, since this thread was started first, I'll post on here about my 2nd attempt to graft.
2 days ago I grafted 3 sticks of haas avocado & 2 varieties of loquat. I planted avocado seed & loquat seed 3 yrs ago & they've been ready to graft onto. Hope they take. Last time, I took tape off too soon LOL
Thanks to my buddy Gaylord in Virginia for sending me the budsticks.
I have room on another avo tree for more varieties of avo's - if I can get Joe Reals attention to buy some from (?) I know he's been busy lately.

JoeReal
03-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Something's coming your way soon Patty!

Taylor
03-23-2009, 07:45 PM
Gaylord lives just a few minutes from me! I really need to go to his place...have emailed him several times though!

Patty in Wisc
03-23-2009, 10:51 PM
:woohoonaner:
Joe, YOU'RE BACK!!! :woohoonaner: I haven't seen you here for a long time.
You've been my instructer & inspiration to graft.
Last year you mentioned all the types of Avos you have & I didn't even know they all existed. I'd be more than happy with anything you could send when you are caught up w/ your busy schedule. Can't wait...thanks Joe.
Can I still take you up on a snip of Honeycrisp apple or is it too late for budstick of it from there? Apple trees here are still frozen & sleeping.

Patty in Wisc
03-23-2009, 11:00 PM
Taylor, Gaylord's been very busy lately too - and with a 6 month old baby.
I mentioned to you last year that I was in VB for the citrus expo in 11-06. Were you there?
VB was nice - stayed ocean front just north of Aquarium...that was nice too!
Don't know if you know Dr. Bob, but we all got a tour of his wonderful backyard!

JoeReal
03-24-2009, 12:03 AM
:woohoonaner:
Joe, YOU'RE BACK!!! :woohoonaner: I haven't seen you here for a long time.
You've been my instructer & inspiration to graft.
Last year you mentioned all the types of Avos you have & I didn't even know they all existed. I'd be more than happy with anything you could send when you are caught up w/ your busy schedule. Can't wait...thanks Joe.
Can I still take you up on a snip of Honeycrisp apple or is it too late for budstick of it from there? Apple trees here are still frozen & sleeping.

I always keep a nice bin of scionwood... And often announce them before I throw them away. Haven't done most of my grafting yet. Too many write-ups to do for three companies..... So the deciduous scionwood are tuck safe and dormant. I will get to them soon, and I believe I have a few sticks of honeycrisp.

Patty in Wisc
04-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Today I grafted variegated calamondin to my pencil sized P trifoliate rootstock. Tomorrow I will graft Reed, Pinkerton & Sir Prize avocados to my 3 yr old Haas grown from seed. Later for the apple as the tree is still dormant.
Thanks Joe!!!! :)

Chironex
04-02-2009, 09:14 PM
I have never grafted anything, but it sure looks like it would be fun. Not much grows here on the hardwood side of the fence. A few Palo Verdes and some pines. I guess there are a few things here, but I don't know of any fruit trees that can survive, or at least anything I like.
Maybe when I get to China I can try some.

Richard
04-02-2009, 09:20 PM
This DVD is a good primer on grafting:
ORANGE COUNTY CRFG GRAFTING DVD ORDER FORM (http://www.kalron.com/kalstor/pub/crfg/DVD-ORDER-FORM.htm)

I guess Scot doesn't like apricot, purple plum, nectarine, pecan, ...

Chironex
04-02-2009, 09:22 PM
Plums and nectarines are good, will they grow here in hell?

Patty in Wisc
04-09-2009, 09:55 PM
Scot, here's a link to some illustrated grafting - mostly by JoeReal (I added a couple links too:)) Citrus Growers Forum :: View Forum - Tutorials (Grafting and budding) (http://citrus.forumup.org/viewforum.php?f=18&mforum=citrus)
And, here is a very simple illustration of cleft/wedge graft. Joe's is much more detailed. C'mon, you can do it!!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/Patty_in_Wisc/Wedgegraft.gif

Richard
04-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Plums and nectarines are good, will they grow here in hell?

There are about 1/2 dozen varieties of each that will thrive there.

Chironex
04-10-2009, 12:12 AM
Ok, I broke down and bought some trifoliate rootstock from Joe. Now all I need to do is plant the stuff with ammonium sulphate and epsom salt according to the formula prescribed by Joe. I will have to get out my jewelers scale to measure it. Then wait a year for the rootstock to establish itself. Then I can graft something to it. I am looking for scionwood of indigenous Chinese citrus varieties that will work with this rootstock (or Japanese in a pinch maybe Mauro has something from his citrus trees, hmmmm?). Anyone have some ideas?

Richard
04-10-2009, 01:09 AM
Anyone have some ideas?

Texas Ruby and Oroblanco Grapefruit.

Patty in Wisc
04-10-2009, 11:18 AM
Scot, just plant in a good rich well draining mix. I fert all my citrus with M.G. 24-8-16 & add epsom salt once in awhile (1 Tbls per gal).

john_ny
04-10-2009, 11:27 AM
The rootstok sounds like Poncirus trifoliata. It's real cold hardy; it even grows here, in New York. It is sometimes used as a dwarfing rootstock for citrus. They have fruit that looks like an orange but, up close, it's a little fuzzy, like a peach. The flesh is white, like a lemon, and loaded with seeds.

Patty in Wisc
04-10-2009, 11:58 AM
And, very very sour & bitter.

Richard
04-10-2009, 12:06 PM
Scot, just plant in a good rich well draining mix. I fert all my citrus with M.G. 24-8-16 & add epsom salt once in awhile (1 Tbls per gal).

The Grow More 28-8-18 water-soluble is less expensive per pound of nutrients and already contains the minerals in your epsom salts.

Chironex
04-10-2009, 12:31 PM
The Grow More 28-8-18 water-soluble is less expensive per pound of nutrients and already contains the minerals in your epsom salts.
Is that what I got from you?

Richard
04-10-2009, 12:34 PM
Is that what I got from you?

Nope, you have 20-5-30 for bananas and several other fruiting crops. The 28-8-18 is for subtropicals that prefer less potash -- like citrus!

Chironex
04-10-2009, 02:27 PM
Nope, you have 20-5-30 for bananas and several other fruiting crops. The 28-8-18 is for subtropicals that prefer less potash -- like citrus!
Ah, ok. How much of that do I need for 4 rootstock plants? How much is it for a small amount? When do I begin using it on these?

Hey do I leave these in the white tubes that Joe shipped them in? They are sort of an elongated bullet shape. Like something used for aerial reforestation bombs.

Patty in Wisc
04-10-2009, 02:43 PM
The Grow More 28-8-18 water-soluble is less expensive per pound of nutrients and already contains the minerals in your epsom salts.
Only mineral in epsom salt is magnesium w/ sulfer. Great for helping plants take up nitrogen. I put it on everything - even grass.
I think miracle grow is cheaper as it is right in the stores & I don't have to pay for shipping. Just as is looking at tutorials on grafting on your search engine or forums rather than buying a DVD & shipping it.

Chironex
04-10-2009, 02:44 PM
Thanks

Patty in Wisc
04-10-2009, 02:51 PM
Ah, ok. How much of that do I need for 4 rootstock plants? How much is it for a small amount? When do I begin using it on these?

Hey do I leave these in the white tubes that Joe shipped them in? They are sort of an elongated bullet shape. Like something used for aerial reforestation bombs.
Scot, plant them up right away. Usually there are directions as for the dose of fert. I use 1 1/2 tsp per gal for potted or young plants & 1 Tbls for large plants about once a month starting now thru Sept.

Chironex
04-10-2009, 02:52 PM
Take them out of the bullet things?

Patty in Wisc
04-10-2009, 02:56 PM
yeah esp if they are plastic. Or, if they are made of peat put whole thing in soil.
Or maybe ask Joe.

Richard
04-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Only mineral in epsom salt is magnesium w/ sulfer.

Exactly. Plenty of it in the micronutrient package.


I think miracle grow is cheaper as it is right in the stores & I don't have to pay for shipping.

The package might be cheaper, but in terms of dollars per net pounds of nutrients I'm not sure if you are saving money.

Richard
04-10-2009, 03:04 PM
Take them out of the bullet things?

Definitely re-pot them and allow plenty of space for root development. Just use the Kelloggs Patio Mix soil available at your local box store. You can pick up a 5-lb bag of 28-8-18 fertilizer when you stop by with Pauly to get the AgriStarts plants later this Spring.

Chironex
04-10-2009, 03:10 PM
Definitely re-pot them and allow plenty of space for root development. Just use the Kelloggs Patio Mix soil available at your local box store. You can pick up a 5-lb bag of 28-8-18 fertilizer when you stop by with Pauly to get the AgriStarts plants later this Spring.

Will do, thanks Richard!

Patty in Wisc
04-29-2009, 12:43 AM
Monday I grafted 2 sticks of Honeycrisp & 1 of Fiesta onto my already 5 in 1 apple tree. Hope they take (fingers crossed). I have a winter banana apple yet to graft this weekend and if they all take we'll have a 8 in 1 apple tree!

Patty in Wisc
05-19-2009, 07:49 PM
My 2 Honey Crisp apple grafts are starting to show a green bud!
The Big Jim graft is leafing out on the loquat - still waiting on the McBeth.
3 haas avo grafts did not take - they turned black:(
4 other avo grafts are still green but no buds yet.
Waiting on 2 more apple grafts to take & then I'll have a 8 in one apple tree!

Caloosamusa
05-27-2009, 09:19 AM
Today I grafted a Lancitilla mango. The root stock I used is an Heirloom cultivar from Pine Island (Lee County) called a Peach Mango. Time will tell if it "takes." Good growing and grafting to all!! :2239:

Patty in Wisc
06-03-2009, 09:36 PM
3 weeks ago, I noticed that the branch I grafted a Winter Banana apple scion to was turning brown & it wouldn't grow leaves. I don't know why ...last yr it had a ton of blossoms on. Last wkend it turned completey brown & dead so I unwrapped the graft & re cut the budstick which is still green. I grafted it to another branch & hope it takes. Grafted it 4 weeks ago but w/ our cold temps I think it just stayed dormant.

harveyc
02-06-2010, 07:15 PM
Today I grafted 'Marion' and 'Flavia' acca/feijoa (pineapple guava) onto a potted plant I picked up a couple of days ago. I plan to graft about 4-5 more onto the plant and will keep it in my greenhouse until spring. Earlier in the week I experimented and made some grafts of various selections onto root segments dug up from some seedling bushes in my yard.

sunfish
02-07-2010, 01:37 PM
Asian pear onto my 4in1 pear.

sbl
02-07-2010, 03:55 PM
I did it last week, but grafted some peaches and pears. I have a friend that had a large pear tree being taken over by a non-bearing rootstock, so I took my trimmings and put some on his tree as well.

bencelest
02-07-2010, 04:10 PM
Asian pear onto my 4in1 pear.

Whoa.... Tony!!!:woohoonaner:

bencelest
02-07-2010, 04:11 PM
I'd be grafting soon scions that I got from scion exchange fair in San Jose on Jan 9 2010.

sunfish
02-07-2010, 04:11 PM
As if I don't already have to many plants to take care of now I can't stop grafting and starting seeds

Patty in Wisc
02-07-2010, 04:53 PM
3 weeks ago, I noticed that the branch I grafted a Winter Banana apple scion to was turning brown & it wouldn't grow leaves. I don't know why ...last yr it had a ton of blossoms on. Last wkend it turned completey brown & dead so I unwrapped the graft & re cut the budstick which is still green. I grafted it to another branch & hope it takes. Grafted it 4 weeks ago but w/ our cold temps I think it just stayed dormant.
I'm glad this thread came up cuz that Winter Banana apple DID take & it grew about 7 inches before it went dormant.
:woohoonaner:

sunfish
02-07-2010, 05:03 PM
I'm glad this thread came up cuz that Winter Banana apple DID take & it grew about 7 inches before it went dormant.
:woohoonaner:

Winter Banana apples are an heirloom variety - interesting flavors with an old-fashioned sort of beauty.


Sure sounds good.

winter banana apple - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=winter%20banana%20apple&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw#)

Patty in Wisc
02-07-2010, 10:55 PM
Thanks Tony!:) Never tastd one before but maybe this year(?)

Richard
02-07-2010, 11:41 PM
Some parts of the country need a separate lane for venomous snakes!

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:SMoPcKJ8d4mTTM:http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/elisson1/Bloggers/SnakeSign.jpg

harveyc
02-08-2010, 12:00 AM
Can you graft them?

bencelest
02-19-2010, 02:16 PM
My hands are itchy now for grafting. I brought home a bunch of scions from scion exchange in San Jose last January and the weather is so nice now here in Salinas so I grafted Harver plumcot, Prosart late nectarine, Fred's large fruit calamondin, pippin apples, O'Henry late nectarine. And more to come.

sunfish
02-20-2010, 11:50 AM
Grafted Almond to Red Baron Peach.

bencelest
02-20-2010, 02:27 PM
Grafted Almond to Red Baron Peach.

I am not sure if that could be done Tony. Peach is a different kind of species from Almond. Both trees has to be related somehow but I don't know how they are related. So to play safe I grafted different kinds of persimons to another persimmons and also different peaches to another peach. But I grafted a an arctic peach to a Japanese satsuma plum and it took and plout can take many diferent species like peach, plums and apricots.

sunfish
02-20-2010, 02:39 PM
How to Propagate an Almond Tree | Garden Guides (http://www.gardenguides.com/85361-propagate-almond-tree.html)

bencelest
02-20-2010, 10:59 PM
Thanks Tony. I learned something new today.

"Almonds are the seeds of drupes or fruit normally grown in subtropical and almost arid conditions. For this reason, they grow prolifically in California and the Mediterranean region. They are a relative of the peach tree, so close in fact that many nurseries actually graft almond seedlings onto peach rootstock."

sunfish
02-20-2010, 11:30 PM
Thanks Tony. I learned something new today.

"Almonds are the seeds of drupes or fruit normally grown in subtropical and almost arid conditions. For this reason, they grow prolifically in California and the Mediterranean region. They are a relative of the peach tree, so close in fact that many nurseries actually graft almond seedlings onto peach rootstock."

Your welcome.

Never plant a peach or nectarine anywhere near an almond tree. The two--closely related--would likely cross-pollinate, yielding very bitter almonds.

harveyc
02-22-2010, 04:22 AM
I've had peach and nectarine trees right next to my two (now only one) almond trees, Tony, and never noticed any of them tasting the least bit bitter.

Patty in Wisc
02-23-2010, 07:13 PM
Benny, what kind of grafts did you use?

bencelest
02-23-2010, 07:57 PM
Patty:
There are only two kinds I am using:
if the scion are the same diameter I use Joe's Whip and Tongue graft
and if they are not the same I use Joe's Bark graft Method. I find that they are almost 100% take and they are so easy to do.

Patty in Wisc
02-23-2010, 09:39 PM
Yeah, I use Joe's whip & tongue & it was successful & gave me some confidence. I also do cleft/wedge graft w/ luck. I'm not so lucky with T buds though. They stay green & swell up but then turn brown & die. Try, try again - right?
I'll have to look up Joe's bark graft again in my bookmarks & maybe try that. Thanks

bencelest
02-24-2010, 10:58 AM
Me too. It is only 50 % take. That's why I don't do T budding anymore. Besides to me it takes longer for the bud to grow whereas on grafting, .... once it took you have 2 to 3 buds growing all at once. I have T budding that stays green all year long without growing.
I am trying to experiment to graft the whole twig this time instead of 2 to 3 buds in a scion. I grafted the whole twig. We'll know what happens come spring time.
My problem with my grafting sometimes because they grow too fast the healing process was not complete so that if you bump the twig the whole thing pulls off from the contact point. But after a year or so they are as permanent as new.

bencelest
02-24-2010, 04:24 PM
I grafted today:
Early purple Quigne Cherry, Dawson cherry, Eprium,Maryann's Apricot. I also cut the donor branches that are taking over over the branches that I grafted last year to give a chance of the new variety to grow. All of them are blooming right now.

Patty in Wisc
03-03-2010, 05:01 PM
Today I got some scions of Paw Paws from LA to graft on my 2 trees when they start budding.
I can't wait!!

bencelest
03-04-2010, 02:20 PM
Plousa plumcot, Montgomery Early Apricot, Maryann's apricot

bencelest
03-17-2010, 10:19 AM
I grafted Bobcock peach and Tilton apricot today.

harveyc
03-17-2010, 10:28 AM
I grafted some various varieties of white sapote on Monday and grafted an Aravaipa avocado yesterday. I figure the Aravaipa needs to be tested in NorCal; it comes from Aravaipa Canyon in Arizona where they get an occasional snow. I hope it is truly hardy and is decent tasting.

sunfish
03-17-2010, 11:54 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=30230&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=30230&ppuser=2868)

A pear I grafted a month ago.All the new growth are grafts.

bencelest
03-18-2010, 08:03 AM
Good job Tony.

sunfish
03-18-2010, 08:18 AM
Thanks Benny. I also did some grafting on my citrus,avocado and loguat.

sbl
03-18-2010, 08:47 AM
All of my recent pear and peach grafts appear to have taken! My avocado graft from last yr is blooming!

Dalmatiansoap
03-18-2010, 08:55 AM
OK grafting Gurues I need help about grafting. We would like to try to graft some Olives now but we have one simple , tinny problem. We just dont know how:ha:.
Anybody knows some good online info sites?
:woohoonaner:

sunfish
03-18-2010, 09:03 AM
http://www.bananas.org/f8/what-did-you-graft-today-4018-8.html#post69819

sbl
03-18-2010, 11:10 AM
OK grafting Gurues I need help about grafting. We would like to try to graft some Olives now but we have one simple , tinny problem. We just dont know how:ha:.
Anybody knows some good online info sites?
:woohoonaner:

Grafting (http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/grafting.html)

I have used a wide variety of grafting methods and different methods sometimes work better on some plants. Some plants are very easy and almost any method will work. I do not know what methods are best for olives, but it may depend on what your kind of stock you are using (seedling or mature trees).

Abnshrek
03-27-2010, 04:23 PM
Put 10 nectarines, and 8 pears on crab apples at neighbors:^)

Once Ante learns how to graft he won't be burning any olive wood any more.. lol

Dalmatiansoap
03-27-2010, 04:35 PM
Haha, thats the good one
:nanadrink:

sunfish
03-28-2010, 06:50 PM
Now that my grafts have leaved out I see I put an apricot on the plum and a plum on the apricot.

Patty in Wisc
04-14-2010, 08:20 PM
Today I grafted 2 budsticks of Ark 21 & Ark 22 Paw Paws to my 2 waking Paw Paw trees. They already have tiny baby blossoms on!! This will be my 1st year to have fruit after growing them for 5 years! I'll wait & then graft the other 4 on them.
I'd love to have some avo budwood. I got some from Joe Real last year...they took & then died :(

bencelest
04-15-2010, 10:01 AM
This is the first time in 3 years before I saw bunch of flowers to my large fruit calamondin grafted to Joe Reals' cal who gave that to me years ago. Still I am waiting for the first flower for Joe Real's Bicol calamondin grafted to the same tree at the same time. I am also harvesting meyer lemons and dream navels and yashimoto orange that I grafted to my Eureka lemon tree. I harvested 3 buckets of Washington navel yesterday in one tree.

noidea
04-20-2010, 10:37 AM
I accidently grafted a piece of apricot scion onto a old european plum tree.

the scion is grow like crazy, the buds are about 1.5' long and still growing....:woohoonaner:

but will it live but for how long? and will it fruit at all?

Will the fruit get mixed turn into a plumcot?:ukkibannana:

Anyone got one, pls give me some feedback..thx

Dalmatiansoap
04-20-2010, 12:11 PM
OK, I did my first grafting today!
Grafted 6 Olives and I ll eat my toes out till I see how will it works:ha:
Wish me luck folks!
:nanadrink:
:woohoonaner:

Abnshrek
04-20-2010, 05:03 PM
OK, I did my first grafting today!
Grafted 6 Olives :ha: Wish me luck folks! :nanadrink: :woohoonaner:

Good Luck Ante :^)

john_ny
04-20-2010, 07:03 PM
To noidea - A few years ago, I made some trees that were three on one, by grafting plum and apricot onto peach. They did fine, for as long as I had them (they are all Prunus). I didn't want them, but other people asked for them, so they were sold, after a couple of years, and I don't know what happened to them after that. And your scion will remain apricot; it will not turn into a plumcot, or anything.

Dalmatiansoap
04-21-2010, 12:40 PM
Few more Olives
:woohoonaner:

Patty in Wisc
04-21-2010, 01:51 PM
Good for you Ante... glad you took the 'plunge' LOL. What kind of graft did you do? If you do the wedge graft http://www.bananas.org/f8/what-did-you-graft-today-4018-8.html#post69819
make sure they are both same size or at least, line up one side to be even. Then, shave a tiny sliver off each edge of the scion before you insert it into wedge opening.
I'm going out now to graft the other 4 Paw Paw scions :)

Dalmatiansoap
04-25-2010, 02:21 PM
I did it this way Patty:
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/AH002.jpg
Any coments?

Caloosamusa
10-06-2010, 08:52 AM
I actually grafted this just after the autumnal equinox, it looks like the graft is taking. It's been almost two years since I've done some grafting, that I remember.

This is from a selected seedling from known parentage. The tree has been producing for three years now. The fruit is large with lots of "meat" on it, no fiber, excellent taste, and when picked "mature green" exhibits a long shelf life. The size is comparable to Keitt.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=37298&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37298)

One of our friends likes this mango better than the Kents she grows, and my wife really likes it (she is really picky with mangos).

:jalapenonaner:

Patty in Wisc
10-06-2010, 11:41 AM
Caloosa, what kind of fruit did you describe?

Caloosamusa
10-06-2010, 01:08 PM
Ooops,

Thanks Patty,

The graft is of a Mango tree. :jalapenonaner:

sunfish
01-22-2011, 08:39 PM
When Benny was visiting San Diego,he did this graft for me.White Peach(blooming) to Yellow Peach.Looking good.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=39923&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=39923&ppuser=2868)

notrecruiting
01-22-2011, 10:41 PM
wondering....why are the california avocados so diferent from the florida ones? Now would you be able to graft a california bud onto a florida root and keep the fruit from the bud california? Or is it the weather and soil that would transform it back into florida fruit? I love the california ones but live in florida. I'm sprouting some california seeds....I know they won't fruit...at least not for several years, but.....

sunfish
02-02-2011, 06:36 PM
Plum graft

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40050&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40050&ppuser=2868)

sunfish
02-04-2011, 05:41 PM
Last years grafts are blooming

Peach
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40143&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40143&ppuser=2868)

Plum

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40142&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40142&ppuser=2868)

sunfish
02-11-2011, 05:18 PM
Pluot,Peach,Plum and Almond

sunfish
03-05-2011, 06:11 PM
Peach graft pushing new growth

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=40603&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=40603&ppuser=2868)

Patty in Wisc
03-11-2011, 07:21 PM
Today I grafted 4 scions of Champaigne Loquat to my tree - sent by Tony. I have some Big Jim fruits on it ripening - from scion I grafted to it 2 yrs ago.

sunfish
03-26-2011, 05:46 PM
Peach
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41085&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41085&ppuser=2868)

and Apricot on Plum

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=41084&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=41084&ppuser=2868)

sunfish
05-17-2011, 06:26 PM
Peach on Plum

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=42830&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=42830&ppuser=2868)

harveyc
05-05-2012, 11:59 PM
Today I grafted a Kaya striped Korean honeydew melon onto a Tetsukabuto winter squash. I have various other melons to graft later but wanted to wait a couple of days to see how this one went since it's the first time I've grafted melons. I gave tomato grafting a try for the first time earlier this year and had a 95% success rate but I'm not sure of what melon/squash combinations will work.

bencelest
05-06-2012, 09:12 AM
Tony:
Are your grafts of yesteryears are still producing fruits?

sunfish
05-06-2012, 09:26 AM
Tony:
Are your grafts of yesteryears are still producing fruits?

Benny yes they are. I've made a few more since you were here.

Dalmatiansoap
04-07-2013, 10:01 AM
Apple

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/popuna1/IMAG6495_zps8a5e990f.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/dalmatiansoap/popuna1/IMAG6496_zps67d86754.jpg
:woohoonaner:

harveyc
04-07-2013, 10:11 AM
Looks like you grafted that before today! :)

Dalmatiansoap
04-07-2013, 10:23 AM
Looks like you grafted that before today! :)

:ha::ha::ha:
absolute right!
:nanadrink:

jmoore
04-07-2013, 12:18 PM
Did you use wax to seal the graft?

Dalmatiansoap
04-07-2013, 12:45 PM
First Im using wide electrical tape to keep the graft tight and than wax all over

jmoore
04-07-2013, 02:25 PM
Another use of gaffer tape :woohoonaner: