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Caline
02-25-2016, 11:15 AM
Good day!
I am wondering if there are any plants that are good company for banana mats. Do you plant anything around bananas?
I like the idea because I've found in the past that plant groupings form a very beneficial micro-ecosytstem.
Through researching, some have suggested planting vegetable crops like tomatoes. Others have said not to plant anything nearby.
I would like to plant a small palm nearby, maybe a coontie, or some seasonal tomato and bell pepper plants.
Anyone have experience, thoughts on companion planting for bananas?
Lydie
Gabe15
02-25-2016, 12:19 PM
It can be done but there are some things to consider, these are some of the top things I think about:
-Other plants nearby are best planted with the banana, as the canopy is still quite small for the first 6 months or so. After that, it might be hard to establish plants nearby as the shade from the banana can be too much, but this also depends on the light requirement of the plant (most crop plants really need at least some direct sun, preferably full, but many ornamentals can get by on shade). Sprawling plants such as squash and gourds are nice at this time as they as they can ramble around on the ground and find sun while serving as a quicker crop return while you are waiting for the bananas. You could plant tomatoes, peppers, eggplants and other bushy crops at this time too, but they will not be able to avoid the shade cast by the bananas for too long, so just be aware and maybe plant them on the south-facing side of the banana.
-I prefer to avoid most root crops as they generally require too much digging which greatly disturbs the shallow and short-lived roots of the banana. Aroids such as taro or malanga, and gingers (including turmeric) are generally shallow enough to avoid too much digging, but still be advised of planting too much, thus requiring too much digging. An example is sweetpotato which is tempting as some cultivars can form nice and thick ground covers, but when you go to harvest any, you also dig up lots of bananas roots which is counter productive and very damaging to the banana. This concept also extends to the practice of generally trying to keep your bananas away from, or at least at the edge of vegetable gardens or grains/pulses (if you're growing them), as there is often a lot of human root zone activity when transplanting and weeding etc...
-Plants which grow to a similar height and at a similar pace are nice, such as papaya. They will not be affected much the the shade of the banana as they can generally keep up with them.
-Some fast growing vines, especially cucurbits such as squash, gourds, luffa and chayote will happily climb up a banana plant. This is isn't necessarily a problem in most cases, but it does make it more difficult to trim dead leaves and they generally must mostly come down during harvest of the bananas. I find them to be too messy to encourage them along, but if it happens incidentally in the garden it can be a nice arrangement.
-Ground covers such as perennial peanut can act as a wonderful soil protector and contribute positively to the bananas, but you might not be getting much out of them as a crop directly (unless you let some chickens or ducks forage on them which is nice for everyone).
-Bananas are often used in the opposite sense, as a relatively short-lived companion to trees. They are well suited to this as they grow quickly providing shade or wind protecting if needed for the young trees, and also provide an excellent source of mulch as leaves are trimmed and pseudostems taken down for harvesting. They are also much quicker than almost any true tree crop, and so provide a quick harvest while you're waiting for the trees to mature, and are relatively easy to remove when not needed anymore.
Caline
02-25-2016, 02:08 PM
Thanks for all the helpful information. That really gives me big pictur. There is alot to think about. Papayas are tempting and sometimes I will look into..
I hadn't thought about the Banana leaf shade issue. Good idea too keep the tomatoes on the south side.
Lydie
Richard
02-25-2016, 04:26 PM
Some members in Florida grow Pineapples under their banana plants.
:2221:
luisport
02-25-2016, 04:50 PM
Some members in Florida grow Pineapples under their banana plants.
:2221:
Hi Richard! I tought pineapples don't like too much shade... I have them (10) in a flower corner against my house east side. I have a fruit orchade and i'm planting one banana tree in the center of four (square) fruit trees in the less cold part of my orchade and using the protection of some very big corktrees...
Worm_Farmer
02-25-2016, 08:44 PM
I do pineapples and other broms. I once did pumpkins, without much success. After reading Gabes post, I will try Luffa this year!! I got tons and tons of Luffa seeds I regrow them each year.
Worm_Farmer
02-25-2016, 08:45 PM
Hi Richard! I tought pineapples don't like too much shade... I have them (10) in a flower corner against my house east side. I have a fruit orchade and i'm planting one banana tree in the center of four (square) fruit trees in the less cold part of my orchade and using the protection of some very big corktrees...
Yeah, but its OK. They might just take longer to flower and make a smaller fruit. But its hard to tell when you have 10 - 30 plants at any time. :D
Caline
02-25-2016, 10:37 PM
Some members in Florida grow Pineapples under their banana plants.
:2221:
Ah, pineapples, hadn't thought of that either. Will check it out!
I do know people who grow around pineapples around here.
Bananas and pineapples do make a lovely mixed fruit salad! :nanadrink:
Lydie
Richard
02-25-2016, 11:07 PM
Hi Richard! I tought pineapples don't like too much shade...
Depends on cultivar and climate.
luisport
02-26-2016, 03:50 AM
Depends on cultivar and climate.
Ok then, it's the first time i try them... when i have more i will try it below banana trees... Thank's!
Juicy Bananas
02-26-2016, 04:39 AM
We like to do various perennials such as Okinawa spinach, lemon balm, & I have a jungle peanut. I have tried a few guild style mats & they seem to do okay with pine apple & a sort of pole beans. But I am also mulching like crazy... so there is plenty of food to go around.
Caline
02-26-2016, 09:31 AM
We like to do various perennials such as Okinawa spinach, lemon balm, & I have a jungle peanut. I have tried a few guild style mats & they seem to do okay with pine apple & a sort of pole beans. But I am also mulching like crazy... so there is plenty of food to go around.
I have been reading about the banana guild and it looks interesting.
But for simplicity, maybe perrenial peanuts would be a way to go.
Botanical_Bryce
02-26-2016, 08:29 PM
I grow yuca, taro, name, and beans with banana
Botanical_Bryce
02-26-2016, 08:31 PM
Perennial peanut increases root knot nematode populations
Juicy Bananas
02-26-2016, 10:48 PM
Perennial peanut increases root knot nematode populations
What do you think about Jungle Peanuts?
Botanical_Bryce
02-26-2016, 11:34 PM
I would expect similar but I don't know about those. Sunshine mimosa may be an alternative but not edible. Yams are another good one. Root crops that can be yanked and not dug.
verndoc50
03-02-2016, 08:48 AM
Been growing pineapples for several years around bananas, with good success. Also Hibiscus sabdariffa (Jamaican sorrel). Here in south Florida I've seen a number of farmers growing papaya between banana plants.
HMelendez
03-02-2016, 09:34 AM
Been growing pineapples for several years around bananas, with good success. Also Hibiscus sabdariffa (Jamaican sorrel). Here in south Florida I've seen a number of farmers growing papaya between banana plants.
I grow papaya with banana plants!......
Jojogarden
08-18-2016, 02:08 AM
OOPS - never mind...sorry, I didn't read the whole thread before replying - I now see the question has already been addressed. Sorry for the interruption.
"Been growing pineapples for several years around bananas"
I keep my pineapples in full sun...don't they get too much shade under the bananas?
\TIA,
JoJo
Dreubber
12-31-2017, 01:11 PM
It can be done but there are some things to consider, these are some of the top things I think about:
-Other plants nearby are best planted with the banana, as the canopy is still quite small for the first 6 months or so. After that, it might be hard to establish plants nearby as the shade from the banana can be too much, but this also depends on the light requirement of the plant (most crop plants really need at least some direct sun, preferably full, but many ornamentals can get by on shade). Sprawling plants such as squash and gourds are nice at this time as they as they can ramble around on the ground and find sun while serving as a quicker crop return while you are waiting for the bananas. You could plant tomatoes, peppers, eggplants and other bushy crops at this time too, but they will not be able to avoid the shade cast by the bananas for too long, so just be aware and maybe plant them on the south-facing side of the banana.
-I prefer to avoid most root crops as they generally require too much digging which greatly disturbs the shallow and short-lived roots of the banana. Aroids such as taro or malanga, and gingers (including turmeric) are generally shallow enough to avoid too much digging, but still be advised of planting too much, thus requiring too much digging. An example is sweetpotato which is tempting as some cultivars can form nice and thick ground covers, but when you go to harvest any, you also dig up lots of bananas roots which is counter productive and very damaging to the banana. This concept also extends to the practice of generally trying to keep your bananas away from, or at least at the edge of vegetable gardens or grains/pulses (if you're growing them), as there is often a lot of human root zone activity when transplanting and weeding etc...
-Plants which grow to a similar height and at a similar pace are nice, such as papaya. They will not be affected much the the shade of the banana as they can generally keep up with them.
-Some fast growing vines, especially cucurbits such as squash, gourds, luffa and chayote will happily climb up a banana plant. This is isn't necessarily a problem in most cases, but it does make it more difficult to trim dead leaves and they generally must mostly come down during harvest of the bananas. I find them to be too messy to encourage them along, but if it happens incidentally in the garden it can be a nice arrangement.
-Ground covers such as perennial peanut can act as a wonderful soil protector and contribute positively to the bananas, but you might not be getting much out of them as a crop directly (unless you let some chickens or ducks forage on them which is nice for everyone).
-Bananas are often used in the opposite sense, as a relatively short-lived companion to trees. They are well suited to this as they grow quickly providing shade or wind protecting if needed for the young trees, and also provide an excellent source of mulch as leaves are trimmed and pseudostems taken down for harvesting. They are also much quicker than almost any true tree crop, and so provide a quick harvest while you're waiting for the trees to mature, and are relatively easy to remove when not needed anymore.
Thanks you! Very informative :nanadrink:
meizzwang
01-05-2018, 05:18 PM
If you're in a temperate climate, you can grow Aquilegia aka columbine. Here's a native one to northern California: In the wild, it grows on the side of creek beds in part shade.
In cultivation, I have it under my bananas, where it gets morning sun and filtered afternoon shade, produces a great show all summer long!
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/35571323981_9802661995_b.jpg
cincinnana
01-06-2018, 07:51 PM
If you're in a temperate climate, you can grow Aquilegia aka columbine. Here's a native one to northern California: In the wild, it grows on the side of creek beds in part shade.
In cultivation, I have it under my bananas, where it gets morning sun and filtered afternoon shade, produces a great show all summer long!
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/35571323981_9802661995_b.jpg
Those plants are awesome.
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