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harveyc

12-08-2009, 12:13 AM

31F at 9pm....getting cold quickly! :(

palmtree

12-08-2009, 12:59 AM

I got a dusting of snow on the cars with saturdays storm! My peace lily which I left outside also got a dusting of snow AND SURVIVED with minor leaf burn. The spindle palms made it too, and all my cold tolerant palms laughed at the cold!

This week we might be seeing temps in the low 20sF and im not looking forward to it. My palms are definately being protected just incase because we are getting rain just before.

Crazy weather for alot of the country this week.

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Coldest temp of the season as of (December 8, 2009)- 31F
Warmest temp so far in the month of December as of (December 8, 2009)- 67F
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Good luck everyone!

harveyc

12-08-2009, 03:51 AM

Well, we're down below 29F now and things were getting pretty frosty so I picked my one and only bunch of bananas shortly after midnight. They didn't size up real well but I expect them to ripen up like last year and taste great. Our frost is already thicker than the other 7 nights with frost in the past 3 weeks. Our normal first date is on 12/15. Oh well....

sbl

12-08-2009, 07:37 AM

No frost here so far, banana leaves are still green, but more rain today. We already have had over 80 inches in part of the county this yr, over 6 ft in Pensacola. I don't remember the exact date of our normal first frost, but it is somewhere around now. El Nino is suppose to bring a cooler wetter winter here--so far it is just wetter.

justjoan

12-08-2009, 08:31 AM

Winter Storm Warning for here starting this afternoon and going through the day tomorrow 6 to 9 inches of snow and the we will have a couple of days of good old cold, high on Thursday could be only 5 above, Bah Humbug!!! :coldbanana:

fishoifc

12-08-2009, 09:15 AM

"Gale warning" winds 25knots plus next four days,probably get another couple inches of rain. Still no frost yet,might get to 33 on thursday.Oh well no fishing for awhile.

Patty in Wisc

12-08-2009, 10:29 AM

I'm with you Joan. Same here... it's snow flurries now but will get to 9 - 14 inches by tomorrow a.m. Our first snow storm of the year & the city says they're ready for it. By me - close to the lake, we might get 'thunder snow' storm. The lake effects will give us rain & snow (YUK) & then it will all freeze up after with a cold front coming after.
SBL, the weathermen here say El Nino will give us warmer & wetter temps this winter(?)
I got my hot cocoa & shovel ready!:)

sbl

12-08-2009, 10:54 AM

justjoan

12-08-2009, 11:37 AM

I am so looking forward to going to Miami in February and then on to the Daytona 500, it will be a nice break!!!!! :woohoonaner::2215:

Patty in Wisc

12-08-2009, 02:33 PM

sbl

12-08-2009, 08:09 PM

Ahh, Feb - March is a great time to go south.
SBL, 5 f is pretty cold but when it gets below 0 w/ windchill of -20 & -40f, THAT is COLD LOL. It is so cold that when you take a deep breath your lungs stick for an instant, or inhaling thru your nose can make your nostrils freeze! "Flash Frozen" I guess.

That is way too cold for me--and I'm sure winter is very long! That is what I like about here--we have winter, but it only last a couple months and any day during winter we can have mid 70s and go barefoot!

harveyc

12-08-2009, 08:22 PM

Yeah, Patty helps me appreciate what I have. Downright tropical here in zone 9, only got down to 27F-28F. ;)

Patty in Wisc

12-09-2009, 12:31 AM

You do get used to it though. Once in March, me & a girlfriend went to Clearwater & were sunbathing on the beach only to get kicked off because of a storm coming. People were wearing winter coats with hoods including the guy that was kicking us out! We were just fine in our bikinis. We had our suntan lotion on & wind blew sand all over us. The guy said we looked like breaded pork chops LOL. On the other side, I would have a hard time dealing w/ extreme heat during our winters.

Abnshrek

12-09-2009, 12:40 AM

Remembering what cold winters were like (Wisc) and then being in Texas where I golfed several times a week in Dec maybe wearing a wind breaker if it wasn't warmer. Now Jan I skipped, but feb was simular to dec. Mar-Nov its shorts :^)

sunfish

12-09-2009, 09:16 AM

No frost here

momoese

12-09-2009, 10:42 AM

No frost here

:0517:

None here either, but I took some precautions and stayed up late moving boiling water out to some strategically placed buckets in the garden.

momoese

12-09-2009, 10:55 AM

Oops, there goes the price of citrus, avocados, and flowers. :2709:

Frost Strikes California's Citrus, Avocado Crops : NPR (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6874467)

Patty in Wisc

12-09-2009, 10:58 AM

False alarm last night. Snow turned to rain so no snow accumulation since I am close to lake. Mike is out plowing by him - 30 miles north -he got over 12 inches during the night.
It's just starting to snow big so we should get 2-4 inches.
Joan, I see you are at 8* f so, that will be here tomorrow... low of 0 f supposedly.
I got sneezels & fever & chills ...I think I have a flu.

Richard

12-09-2009, 02:05 PM

Yesterday was cool, with a high of 58 F. By 9pm the temperature had dropped to 36 F but then slowly began rising (!) to reach 42 F at sunrise this morning. It is currently 80 F at 11am, go figure.

harveyc

12-09-2009, 02:57 PM

27F here this morning, with heavy frost again (9th day of frost in the last 3.5 weeks).

A mile down the road they had sprinklers running on some young alfalfa when I drove by at 4pm. When I drove by this morning at 7:30am the sprinklers were off and the ice was piled high. Unusual to see that around here.

sunfish

12-09-2009, 02:58 PM

Yesterday was cool, with a high of 58 F. By 9pm the temperature had dropped to 36 F but then slowly began rising (!) to reach 42 F at sunrise this morning. It is currently 80 F at 11am, go figure.

Richard are you sure it's 80

Rancho Penasquitos, San Diego, California (PWS)
Updated: 2 min 20 sec ago
56.4 °F
Mostly Cloudy

conejov

12-09-2009, 04:09 PM

48.5 F Partly Cloudy. Nice and chilly. we had some a.m. fog but it went away once te sun came up.

supermario

12-09-2009, 04:19 PM

Typical December..

82 degrees.. 72 % humidity... partly cloudy.

I can't wait until it dips down for our weeklong winter! LOL

fishoifc

12-09-2009, 06:03 PM

70 degrees gust to 45 knots.
Gale warning
flood warning
High wind warning
heavy surf warning
and watch out for rip currents
typical day at the beach.

Richard

12-09-2009, 06:20 PM

Richard are you sure it's 80

Rancho Penasquitos, San Diego, California (PWS)
Updated: 2 min 20 sec ago
56.4 °F
Mostly Cloudy

Yes, it was 80 F in my backyard for about 1.5 hours until the clouds moved in and whammo, back down to 68 F.

coast crab

12-13-2009, 10:19 AM

Seems like we've been getting a couple of inches of rain every week. We got over 2 inches early last week and just got ANOTHER 5 inches from Friday night to Sunday morning. I've never seen the ground so wet this time of year, and it just keeps coming with no dry-out in between the storms.

Russell

lorax

12-13-2009, 10:29 AM

35-40 Centigrade with 35 kph winds, 25% humidity, and it's cloudy but refuses to rain even an eensy bit. I miss the jungle.

sunfish

12-13-2009, 10:36 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=27681&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=27681&ppuser=2868)

Dalmatiansoap

12-13-2009, 12:24 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=27690&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=27690&ppuser=4565)
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw

12-13-2009, 01:17 PM

35-40 Centigrade with 35 kph winds, 25% humidity, and it's cloudy but refuses to rain even an eensy bit. I miss the jungle.
Any pics of your desert, Beth? I'd be very interested in seeing it... on a picture, off course.

sunfish

12-20-2009, 11:24 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=27878&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=27878&ppuser=2868)

lorax

12-20-2009, 12:50 PM

Cool! Manicata or mixta, Tony?

It's actually kinda sorta raining here and abou 25 C, which overjoys me to no end. Maybe our year's average precipiation will come up to 3 cm!

sunfish

12-20-2009, 12:56 PM

Cool! Manicata or mixta, Tony?

It's actually kinda sorta raining here and abou 25 C, which overjoys me to no end. Maybe our year's average precipiation will come up to 3 cm!

Tripartita mollissima plenty of flowers but even with hand pollinating it no fruit set?

lorax

12-20-2009, 02:22 PM

Hmmm. Are you selfing it or crossing?

sunfish

12-20-2009, 02:26 PM

Selfing it and trying to root some cuttings.

lorax

12-20-2009, 04:43 PM

That might be your problem. Most banana-type passionfruits are self-sterile. Try crossing it with Manicata if you've got blooms on both vines.

sunfish

12-20-2009, 04:55 PM

That might be your problem. Most banana-type passionfruits are self-sterile. Try crossing it with Manicata if you've got blooms on both vines.

Thanks

sunfish

12-20-2009, 08:43 PM

Feels like 65f

harveyc

12-20-2009, 09:13 PM

Cool and rainy here

sbl

12-21-2009, 09:26 AM

We finally had a frost here--got down to about 33 or 34 while I was gone.

lorax

12-21-2009, 11:09 AM

35 degrees C and sunny. There's not even any trace of last night's drizzle.

Dean W.

12-21-2009, 05:16 PM

70 degrees F here.:lurk:

island cassie

12-21-2009, 09:33 PM

Cold here - 73f/23c and pouring with rain - 9.5 inches in 15 hours. Sheesh!

sbl

12-22-2009, 08:47 AM

Cold here - 73f/23c and pouring with rain - 9.5 inches in 15 hours. Sheesh!

Was it you or Lorax that was way below normal in rainfall? We are way above and headed for more!

sunfish

12-22-2009, 09:44 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=27994&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=27994&ppuser=2868)

lorax

12-22-2009, 10:04 AM

sbl

12-22-2009, 10:15 AM

SBL, it was me. In fact, since the drought is continuing, we're still on electricity rationing across the country. (This may sound like a non-sequitur, but Ecuador is 100% hydroelectric) This is going to end in tears - the highland farmers were unable to get the potato, corn, barley, quinoa, and "cool weather" vegetable crops in, and the coastal farmers lost the year's second cycle of rice. About the only thing doing well cropwise this year is Amazon bananas and fruits. The price of staple foods is already going up.

Wow! 100% hydroelectric! I am guessing that this is typical of El Nino pattern--is it? That is bad news about the farmers--it is tough enough when they get a crop, but to not even get to plant is really a disaster for them.

I was just up in north MS and the excess rain there rotted soybeans and cotton on the stalk--many fields are left totally unharvested. However, rice and corn did OK there.

Richard

12-23-2009, 11:47 AM

Coldest night so far this season, it was 33 F just before dawn.

justjoan

12-23-2009, 11:55 AM

MAJOR SNOW STORM HEADED HERE, MIGHT BE SPENDING CHRISTMAS AT WORK!!! BAH HUMBUG:santananer:

lorax

12-23-2009, 11:58 AM

SBL - it's typical of El Niño, but this year is the most severe drought in at least 40 years. A milder one 10 years ago caused widespead malnutrition problems, and led to the government's policy of stockpiling rice and other grains. Thanks to that, we won't have widespread starvation issues, but the price of food is really skyrocketing. I used to pay $25 for a 50-lb sack of potatoes, and the price on Monday when I went to the market was upwards of $40, and bidding wars were starting over what little there was. Ecuador is a food-sovereign nation, which is usually a good thing, but this year it's biting us.

And yeah, we're 100% hydro. Four large dams provide all the power for the country. Paute (on the coast) and Cuenca (in the south sierra) are currently dry - there hasn't been enough rain to feed the rivers they're on. San Francisco, on the upper Rio Pastaza, has permanent silt issues, and the dam in Ibarra is running on very low reservoir. It's so bad that we're buying excess power from Peru at this point - where we used to sell them ours! Everybody in the country is praying for rain, even those in areas that traditionally flood in the rainy season - they're dry as well.

Today in Ambato, it looks like it will hit 40 C with sustained 30 kph winds. All we need now is for Tungurahua to start erupting again!

sbl

12-23-2009, 01:48 PM

Today in Ambato, it looks like it will hit 40 C with sustained 30 kph winds. All we need now is for Tungurahua to start erupting again!

Wow--40 C--that's 104 F---not much like Christmas I am used to! I wish I could send you some of the excess rain we have been getting--we are over 7 feet now and more heavy rain coming tonight and tomorrow.

Patty in Wisc

12-23-2009, 06:41 PM

We are now just getting a ice/snow storm. News is telling ppl to stay home tonight. Chicago flights cancelled & it's coming north. I shouldn't complain after reading what Lorax wrote...whew.
Good news is the DAYS ARE GETTING LONGER!!!!

sunfish

12-27-2009, 03:31 PM

Is it spring already?

Frederick's putting new growth

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28221&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28221&ppuser=2868)

sunfish

01-03-2010, 09:16 AM

Low of 57f.

Caloosamusa

01-03-2010, 09:36 AM

Low 41F, Thank God for it not getting colder. For the last three years we have had freezes the first week of January! 41F is much better than 31F. :2239:

lorax

01-03-2010, 10:09 AM

Low of 15C and that's freakin' chilly! It's clear as a bell today and we're expecting high 30's to low 40's centigrade.

Dalmatiansoap

01-03-2010, 10:12 AM

Low of 57f.

WOW Tony!
Can U fight that extremes?:ha::ha::ha:
:woohoonaner:

sbl

01-03-2010, 10:33 AM

Low was 28 this morning--which was what the weather channel predicted, but they have been changing the forecast for the comming week like a yo-yo.
Yesterday morning they had 4 days in the 20s--then in the afternoon, just last night at 28--now they are back to several days in the mid 20s and a low 20s for the end of the week.

sunfish

01-03-2010, 10:48 AM

WOW Tony!
Can U fight that extremes?:ha::ha::ha:
:woohoonaner:

I was waiting for my stone fruit to go dormant,so I could repot into larger containers. To late I already have blossoms.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28508&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28508&ppuser=2868)

djmb74

01-03-2010, 11:11 AM

Longest Cold Snap In Nine Years Hits Central Florida - News Story - WFTV Orlando (http://www.wftv.com/news/22110175/detail.html)

Longest Cold Snap In Nine Years Hits Central Florida

Posted: 4:38 pm EST January 2, 2010Updated: 10:16 am EST January 3, 2010

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ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A major cold front will cause freezing conditions every night through this Thursday across almost the entire region. Some areas could even see a hard freeze.

The cold front first hit the area on Friday. It’s the longest stretch of cold weather Central Florida has seen since 2001.

Farmers are protecting their crops because of the freezing weather.

Energy officials say demand for electricity has also increased because of the cold weather. The Orlando Utility Commission, however, says it has plenty of power to meet demand.

Area homeless shelters are also opening their doors to make sure people on the street have a warm place to sleep.

People are also being warned to bring in their pets and protect their plants and pipes.

supermario

01-03-2010, 12:07 PM

Finally getting chilly. Low of 41 degrees F today.

Patty in Wisc

01-03-2010, 12:57 PM

Geeze, that is COLD for you FL people! I think we were at a low of 0 F last night. Gonna be cold or colder all week.

Scuba_Dave

01-03-2010, 01:06 PM

It's been snowing since Friday
Supposed to stop sometime today....hopefully
Over a foot already

lorax

01-03-2010, 01:15 PM

Wow, I'm so glad I don't live in Canada anymore...

Richard

01-03-2010, 10:41 PM

Wow, I'm so glad I don't live in Canada anymore...

But the ski slopes are so wide open when the daily highs are in the -30's !

lorax

01-03-2010, 11:04 PM

I know - it's when I used to go! I shudder to even think that I went outside in those temps, these days. For crying out loud, I find it chilly at 10 C, which is when I used to put on my sandals.

Today's high was 42 degrees. It's currently 12 C and I'm wearing a sweater because it's freaking cold.

sunfish

01-06-2010, 02:36 PM

70.0 °F
Scattered Clouds

sunfish

01-12-2010, 09:44 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28849&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28849&ppuser=2868)

harveyc

01-12-2010, 01:55 PM

sunfish

01-12-2010, 02:40 PM

Sure, rub it in, Tony. My friend down your way hat 82F yesterday and I had a high of 48F :( At least the fog turned to rain overnight and now I see some sunshine for the first time in about six days. It's a whopping 56F at 10:55am. whohoo

Now I have to start watering again. Everything is in full grow mode here.The kru,dwarf red, white iholena all growing strong.

sunfish

01-12-2010, 02:56 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28858&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28858)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28857&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28857)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28856&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28856)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=28855&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=28855&ppuser=2868)

sbl

01-12-2010, 06:33 PM

I agree with Harvey, only I wish it was as warm here as it is where he is. Pictures of my yard would be very sad. I can't wait til spring when all this black and brown turns to green.

Jack Daw

01-12-2010, 06:43 PM

I agree with Harvey, only I wish it was as warm here as it is where he is. Pictures of my yard would be very sad. I can't wait til spring when all this black and brown turns to green.
You could always be happy that it will be at least 1 month before anything starts turning green here. ;)

lorax

01-12-2010, 06:48 PM

Could be worse, guys. It could be 38 C and erupting!

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh196/HabloPorArboles/Bananas/DSCN2638.jpg

Patty in Wisc

01-12-2010, 10:18 PM

Oh, look at that bottom left cloud. Looks like a lady's face & she's laying down!! And, on right, there is a old white haired man blowing smoke out of his nose or mouth LOL.

CookieCows

01-12-2010, 11:42 PM

Did you take that picture???

Patty in Wisc

01-13-2010, 12:19 AM

Lorax did, but I wish:)

CookieCows

01-13-2010, 12:22 AM

Sorry I should have put a quote in my post.. I was directing my question to Beth but thanks for the answer.

lorax

01-13-2010, 12:43 AM

I did indeed, about 7 blocks from my home. It's much further away than that photo makes it look - about 25 km. I'm far from being in the danger zone.

Patty in Wisc

01-13-2010, 02:42 AM

Partly cloudy & cold with a chance of meatballs.

(I heard that somewhere & thought it was funny:))

Taylor

01-13-2010, 06:10 AM

28.7ºF outside here (just a bit below freezing for you Celsius people) and about 45ºF in the greenhouse at 6 AM.

Oh, look at that bottom left cloud. Looks like a lady's face & she's laying down!! And, on right, there is a old white haired man blowing smoke out of his nose or mouth LOL.

OMG! I see them now, too!

Scuba_Dave

01-13-2010, 09:07 AM

We are supposed to have a heat wave Friday - maybe mid 40's
Then about 40 again on Saturday
So looks like this weekend I will get the rest of my Christmas display down
Outside Temps last nite went down to 10-12 f

Greenhouse is just getting up to 32 @ 9am
This year I will finish insulating it & the cement foundation
Also need 3-4 more storm windows

justjoan

01-13-2010, 09:21 AM

Supposed to be in the mid 30's for the rest of the week, :woohoonaner:

Patty in Wisc

01-13-2010, 03:16 PM

OMG, it's only 32F right now & we will warm to about 40 by Fri!!:)

sunfish

01-15-2010, 09:44 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29021&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29021&ppuser=2868)

Richard

01-15-2010, 11:32 AM

Feels like April here.

lorax

01-15-2010, 11:52 AM

It's definitely summer here - 35 and cloudy with a possibility of light ashfall later in the day.

cherokee_greg

01-15-2010, 12:44 PM

Looks like rain is coming

Today: Areas of dense morning fog. A mix of clouds and sun. High 61F. Winds light and variable.
Tonight: Cloudy. Areas of fog developing. Low 43F. Winds light and variable.
Tomorrow: Overcast. High 61F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph.
Tomorrow night: Mostly cloudy skies. Low 43F. Winds light and variable.
Sunday: Few showers. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the mid 40s.
Monday: Mainly cloudy and rainy. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the low 40s.
Tuesday: Cloudy with rain. Highs in the upper 40s and lows in the low 40s.

Richard

01-15-2010, 04:12 PM

It's definitely summer here - 35 and cloudy with a possibility of light ashfall later in the day.

I know it is true but that part about the light ashfall later in the day is humorous!

lorax

01-15-2010, 04:18 PM

Yeah, it's not a normal weather phenomemon, by any means. I wish I could report a balmy cloudless 45 today, which is what it would have been had the winds not shifted.

Bob

01-15-2010, 04:50 PM

Is the volcanic ash beneficial at all as a fertilizer or just a pain in the....neck?

lorax

01-15-2010, 05:19 PM

It's great fertilizer, especially what comes out of Tungurahua, just in much much smaller quantities than the volcano sees fit to give us.

Richard

01-15-2010, 08:58 PM

It's great fertilizer, especially what comes out of Tungurahua, just in much much smaller quantities than the volcano sees fit to give us.

It's a volcano with personality! :D

lorax

01-15-2010, 09:23 PM

LOL, it really is. The Kichua people call her Mother Tungurahua - she provides everything we need to live well, but watch that temper!

Richard

01-18-2010, 12:44 AM

Rain, finally. Perhaps some more over the next 24 hours.

cherokee_greg

01-18-2010, 09:20 AM

Rain, finally. Perhaps some more over the next 24 hours.

Happy your getting some same here and lots more to come . Im so happy its a welcome site.
Let it come.

lorax

01-18-2010, 09:22 AM

Rain here, too. Although I suspect that Richard's getting a better soaking than I am - what passes for rain these days is more like heavy mist.

jeffreyp

01-18-2010, 12:58 PM

got the A/C on here in south florida

Patty in Wisc

01-18-2010, 01:00 PM

It's a sunny day & warmed up to 30's! Ice falling off roof & gutters is making lots of noise.

bencelest

01-18-2010, 04:57 PM

It's raining today and windy and the 5-day forecast is raining until Friday. Did not forecast beyond Friday so I don''t know.

momoese

01-18-2010, 05:07 PM

Rain blowing sideways at times.

Richard

01-18-2010, 05:26 PM

So far just a tenth of an inch in the last 24 hours.

sunfish

01-18-2010, 05:29 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29147&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29147&ppuser=2868)

momoese

01-18-2010, 05:37 PM

So far we have received 2.18 inches and have a flash flood and high wind advisories in effect until 8pm.

aash09

01-18-2010, 06:39 PM

So much for sunny California! It was warm at 45F here today!

momoese

01-18-2010, 07:51 PM

Now it's sunny, well it was a while ago until the sun went down.

harveyc

01-19-2010, 10:24 AM

Rainy and windy, localized flooding. Standing water in my fields.
River flows are increasing: USGS Real-Time Water Data for California (http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/rt)

lorax

01-19-2010, 11:20 AM

A nasty, very windy 10 C here.

sunfish

01-19-2010, 01:35 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29173&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29173&ppuser=2868)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29172&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29172&ppuser=2868)

Looking south from the tip of Point Loma

Richard

01-19-2010, 04:02 PM

Last night at sunset it rained 3/4 inch in one hour, and right now its doing the same.

cherokee_greg

01-19-2010, 04:03 PM

Currently, the strong El Nino is reaching its peak in the Eastern Pacific, and
now finally appears to be exerting an influence on our weather.. The strong jet
has been apparent for quite some time out over the open water, but the
persistent block had prevented it from reaching the coast. Now that the block
has dissolved completely, a 200+ kt jet is barreling towards us. Multiple large
and powerful storm systems are expected to slam into CA from the west and
northwest over the coming two weeks, all riding this extremely powerful jet
stream directly into the state. The jet will itself provide tremendous dynamic
lift, in addition to directing numerous disturbances right at the state and
supplying them with an ample oceanic moisture source. The jet will be at quite a
low latitude over much of the Pacific, so these storms will be quite cold, at
least initially. Very heavy rainfall and strong to potentially very strong winds
will impact the lower elevations beginning late Sunday and continuing through at
least the following Sunday. This will be the case for the entire state, from
(and south of) the Mexican border all the way up to Oregon. Above 3000-4000
feet, precipitation will be all snow, and since temperatures will be unusually
cold for a precipitation event of this magnitude, a truly prodigious amount of
snowfall is likely to occur in the mountains, possibly measured in the tens of
feet in the Sierra after it's all said and done. But there's a big and rather
threatening caveat to that (discussed below).Individual storm events are going
to be hard to time for at least few more days, since this jet is just about as
powerful as they come (on this planet, anyway). Between this Sunday and the
following Sunday, I expect categorical statewide rainfall totals in excess of
3-4 inches. That is likely to be a huge underestimate for most areas. Much of
NorCal is likely to see 5-10 inches in the lowlands, with 10-20 inches in
orographically-favored areas. Most of SoCal will see 3-6 inches at lower
elevations, with perhaps triple that amount in favored areas.

This is where things get even more interesting, though. The models are virtually
unanimous in "reloading" the powerful jet stream and forming an additional
persistent kink 2000-3000 miles to our southwest after next Sunday. This is a
truly ominous pattern, because it implies the potential for a strong
Pineapple-type connection to develop. Indeed, the 12z GFS now shows copious warm
rains falling between days 12 and 16 across the entire state. Normally, such as
scenario out beyond day seven would be dubious at best. Since the models are in
such truly remarkable agreement, however, and because of the extremely high
potential impact of such an event, it's worth mentioning now. Since there will
be a massive volume of freshly-fallen snow (even at relatively low elevations
between 3000-5000 feet), even a moderately warm storm event would cause very
serious flooding. This situation will have to monitored closely. Even if the
tropical connection does not develop, expected rains in the coming 7-10 days
will likely be sufficient to cause flooding in and of themselves (even in spite
of dry antecedent conditions).

In addition to very heavy precipitation, powerful winds may result from very
steep pressure gradients associated with the large and deep low pressure centers
expect ed to begin approaching the coast by early next week. Though it's not
clear at the moment just how powerful these winds may be, there is certainly the
potential for a widespread damaging wind event at some point, and the high
Sierra peaks are likely to see gusts in the 100-200 mph range (since the 200kt
jet at 200-300 mb will essentially run directly into the mountains at some
point). The details of this will have to be hashed out as the event(s) draw
closer.
In short, the next 2-3 weeks (at least) are likely to be more active across
California than any other 2-3 week period in recent memory. The potential exists
for a dangerous flood scenario to arise at some point during this interval,
especially with the possibility of a heavy rain-on-snow event during late week
2. In some parts of Southern California, a whole season's worth of rain could
fall over the course of 5-10 days. This is likely to be a rather memorable
event. Stay tuned.

momoese

01-19-2010, 04:14 PM

That doesn't sound good at all ^ :raftingnaner:

Jack Daw

01-19-2010, 04:20 PM

Richard

01-19-2010, 04:48 PM

The Santa Ana River which originates in the San Bernardino mountains, is likely to have another 50-year flood event. This usually means boulders the size of houses traveling out of Mill Creek and down through San Bernardino. Prado Dam is likely to crest and if it does not hold (historically, it has not) then Newport Harbor will be devastated along with about 5,000 homes built at flood stage below the dam. For those who know the Redlands CA area, San Timoteo Creek becomes a daemon during the 50-year event, sending a 25-foot high wall of mud down through the lower canyon and destroying Barton Road along the Riverside county boarder.

Have boots, will slog.

lorax

01-19-2010, 06:11 PM

Greg, take comfort in the fact that the same weather system that's bringing you record rainfall has sucked all of the moisture out of the equatorial regions. We're in the teeth of our worst drought in nearly 120 years.

Richard

01-19-2010, 08:11 PM

sbl

01-20-2010, 08:15 AM

Well it will be a show one way or another. Though I doubt those predictions will be very accurate, as long as extreme temperatures and fronts are forecasted, they usually behave quite differently in reality. We'll see though, it's some time from now.

The long term preditions based on El Nino were pretty accurate here--wetter and colder than normal--turned into 2 ft more rain than normal and the longest cold spell I have seen in my lifetime. I just hope that the article I read about this being a different kind of El Nino that means more hurricanes is wrong. Another yr like 2005 could make insurance unaffordable here.

We are back to normal here for a while with highs in 60s and lows in 40s, but it is still pretty wet.

cherokee_greg

01-20-2010, 10:20 AM

Check out the rainbow we had yesterday
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29189&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29189&ppuser=5959)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29190&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29190&ppuser=5959)

harveyc

01-20-2010, 10:23 AM

Currently having heavy rain and winds of 26mph with gusts of 34mph. Lights just flickered but we've been lucky and avoided an electrical outage thus far.

sunfish

01-20-2010, 11:04 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29194&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29194&ppuser=2868)

bencelest

01-20-2010, 11:24 AM

In Salinas CA we have this:
lots of rain pouring now......

Wind Advisory in effect until noon PST today...
Today
Windy. Rain and isolated thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and small hail. Highs in the upper 50s. South winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph.

Richard

01-20-2010, 05:26 PM

The barometer here has dropped to 970 millibars (about 28 inHg), but at the center of the depression off the California-Oregon boarder it is about 948 mb -- akin to a strong hurricane.

Jack Daw

01-20-2010, 05:54 PM

The barometer here has dropped to 970 millibars (about 28 inHg), but at the center of the depression off the California-Oregon boarder it is about 948 mb -- akin to a strong hurricane.
How many Pascals is that?

Richard

01-20-2010, 05:59 PM

How many Pascals is that?

If you type into the Google search bar:
convert 947 millibars to pascals
it will reply
947 millibars = 94 700 pascals

bencelest

01-20-2010, 07:55 PM

There were 3 times tornado warning over the TV interrupting all the shows to announce these. within 2 hours I was waching.

Richard

01-20-2010, 08:55 PM

O.K. all you folks in the U.S. east of the Rockies, you know what happens when a large storm front moves through western coast: YOU'RE NEXT !!
:coldbanana:

cherokee_greg

01-21-2010, 09:22 AM

There were 3 times tornado warning over the TV interrupting all the shows to announce these. within 2 hours I was waching.

I know we had some warnings here too. Are power went out for awile. The rain is not over storm 5 today get ready :islandsharkbanana:

cherokee_greg

01-21-2010, 09:29 AM

San Francisco – A storm system that has battered California for three days, flooding streets and triggering mudslides, is now aiming at Arizona.

This bout of bad weather, say meteorologists, is largely courtesy of El Niño, which is expected to influence the jet stream throughout the winter months.

In southern California on Wednesday, the third storm in three days brought high winds and continuous rainfall, prompting authorities to issue flash-flood and high-wind warnings. In the north, some 30,000 people lost power, and the state’s highway patrol reported numerous mudslides along roadways.

On Thursday and Friday, Arizona is expecting as much as four feet of snow in the northern part of the state and heavy rainfall in the center. And Nevadans should prepare for flooding later this week, officials in Las Vegas said. That city was pummeled with heavy rains Tuesday.

“It’s going to be a big one,” says Darren McCollum, lead forecaster in Flagstaff, Ariz., for the National Weather Service.

While it’s difficult to pinpoint what’s responsible for a batch of severe storms, many are pointing their finger at El Niño.

“El Niño appears to be showing signs here in this pattern with particularly strong disturbances within the jet stream,” says Greg Carbin, a meteorologist at the National Weather Service’s Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Okla. “The intensity of the mid-level and upper-level winds has been quite dramatic.”

The high winds, which reached 60 miles per hour and toppled power lines in Sacramento and Silicon Valley in California on Wednesday, are expected to taper off as storm systems move east and into Arizona.

While El Niño has already produced big storms across the West, it may also be blamed for producing an unimpressive amount of snowfall for the upcoming winter Olympics in Vancouver, British Columbia.

As The Seattle Times notes, El Niño years can bring both stormy weather as well as warmer temperatures.

In San Francisco, El Niño has been held responsible for the relocation of the city’s sea lions from their Pier 39 home to colder waters along the Oregon coast.

"My gut feeling is it has something to do with the [ocean-warming] El Nino conditions off California, which is driving prey and sea lions up north," Kim Raum-Suryan, a biologist at the Hatfield Marine Science Center in Newport, Ore., told USA Today.

But while most meteorologists say that El Niño is at the root of this week’s rotten weather, some disagree.

On his Sciencedude blog for The Orange Country Register, science writer Gary Robbins interviewed William Patzert, a climatologist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

“While the rest of the country has been battered by strong, cold outbreaks; bringing storms, snow and frigid temperatures over the past two weeks, California remained mild and dry. Now it’s our turn,” wrote Mr. Patzert in an e-mail to the science dude.

But don’t blame it on El Niño, he says.

“The El Nino warmed subtropics might be pumping a little moisture into these storms as they move south and could be giving rain and snowfall totals a boost. But not much!” he wrote.

djmb74

01-21-2010, 09:34 AM

Everytime I hear about or read about El Nino it reminds me of Chris Farley, then I get sad about how his life ended. He was one of my favorites!

YouTube - El Nino Chris Farley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkq_ZqAmyHE&feature=related)

cherokee_greg

01-21-2010, 01:51 PM

Richard

01-21-2010, 03:24 PM

We just had one of those tremendous cloudbursts -- over 3 inches of rain in 15 minutes (it's stopped now). The rain gauge couldn't keep up with it and overflowed. The water was pouring off all sides of the roofs in sheets -- like a waterfall. The street is now a 3-inch deep river. All that water is now headed for the Del Mar Fairgrounds ...

Patty in Wisc

01-21-2010, 03:31 PM

I saw on news a lot of mudslides & some heavy equipment scooping the mud. Didn't catch where in CA though.

bencelest

01-21-2010, 04:30 PM

My wife called me that she cann see the high waves from where she was deliviering mail and that was about I"d say 25 miles distance.
It's time to see it.

momoese

01-21-2010, 10:13 PM

Lots of rain and lighting/thunder right now. Some downed trees on my street.

cherokee_greg

01-21-2010, 11:33 PM

still raining here :woohoonaner:

Richard

01-21-2010, 11:41 PM

Yeah, it was an amazing weather day in San Diego. The official rainfall for the city was 3 inches, but those of us near west-facing hills received two downpours of over 3 inches each. Tony had a "weather feature" down near his area that trimmed about a mile stretch of trees, moved some cars around on the street and put one of them in a tree. About 5pm the city's power grid started failing and patch-works of neighborhoods had their power going off and on and off and on. Ours was out here for 1.5 hours this evening.

harveyc

01-21-2010, 11:57 PM

wow, sounds like a crazy time. We had winds of over 30mph yesterday and since we live in a rural area, our power often goes out in such storms but we lucked out with just a few flickers. Our phones and DSL were slightly worse, but not too bad. We're just a little over 5 inches in the past 4 days.

sunfish

01-22-2010, 09:31 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29218&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29218&ppuser=2868)

Probability of Precipitation (%):
100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%

sunfish

01-22-2010, 11:51 AM

Banana passion vine seems to like the weather.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29219&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29219&ppuser=2868)

cherokee_greg

01-22-2010, 01:09 PM

Banana passion vine seems to like the weather.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29219&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29219&ppuser=2868)

wow love that vine !!!!!!! I wounder if it would do good here in Fresno ?
thanks for posting it.

sunfish

01-22-2010, 01:22 PM

wow love that vine !!!!!!! I wounder if it would do good here in Fresno ?
thanks for posting it.

Grow it in a container and take it inside in winter.

cherokee_greg

01-22-2010, 02:25 PM

Grow it in a container and take it inside in winter.

thanks I have some seeds coming. I checked it out on davesgarden.com it says it will grow in my zone. I have grown things here with success thats not for my zone.
thanks for posting that picture there great :woohoonaner:

sunfish

01-22-2010, 02:52 PM

thanks I have some seeds coming. I checked it out on davesgarden.com it says it will grow in my zone. I have grown things here with success thats not for my zone.
thanks for posting that picture there great :woohoonaner:

Keep them in a shaded spot .

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29224&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29224&ppuser=2868)

momoese

01-22-2010, 03:16 PM

Got some hail today!

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29225&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29225)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29226&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29226)

sunfish

01-22-2010, 04:37 PM

lorax

01-22-2010, 05:13 PM

45 C and clear as a bell, with a light ash haze. If it holds out, I'll have lava shots for y'all tomorrow.

sbl

01-22-2010, 05:43 PM

It is beautiful here! As nice as it gets! Mid 60s, sunny with clear blue skies. This is what I like about winter here.

Richard

01-22-2010, 06:40 PM

Sing along:
Hail, hail, the hails all here ...

sunfish

01-23-2010, 09:51 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29233&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29233&ppuser=2868)

What happened to my spring like weather

harveyc

01-24-2010, 01:45 AM

We walked in the Walk For Life West Coast and got poured on even though predictions had called for partly cloudy. Closer to home there was a big hail storm. More rain expected each of the next few days.

I just checked one NorCal reservoir, Shasta, and see that it has storage of 2.35 million acre feet compared to 1.39 million acre feet a year ago and inflow is still at a good rate. It might be wishful thinking, but I remember back in the 70s when we had what was called a "Miracle March" which filled up our depleted reservoirs. Pumping restrictions due to the endangered Delta Smelt (never seen one in person) will still be an ongoing problem, though.

Richard

01-24-2010, 02:10 AM

http://image.weather.com/images/maps/current/cur_w_720x486.jpg

sbl

01-24-2010, 09:57 AM

From beautiful to ugly to downright nasty--yesterday was cold and windy and we are now under tornado watches and flashflood warnings--rivers are still swollen from last weeks rain.

cherokee_greg

01-24-2010, 10:12 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29233&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29233&ppuser=2868)

What happened to my spring like weather

I think we got it all here yesterday. :woohoonaner: It was great looks like today maybe another nice one tell the rain comes in tonight.

sunfish

01-29-2010, 09:44 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29334&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29334&ppuser=2868)

Abnshrek

01-29-2010, 10:05 AM

Tony the sunset is pretty, but I still like the classic (car)
Well its 35F and getting the wrong end of the stick..

sunfish

01-29-2010, 10:33 AM

Tony the sunset is pretty, but I still like the classic (car)
Well its 35F and getting the wrong end of the stick..

Sunrise

Taylor

01-30-2010, 11:27 PM

Currently 25.5ºF outside, 43.5ºF in the greenhouse. It's not supposed to get above freezing tomorrow.

Our street:
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/Snow%201-30-10/DSC07921.jpg

The street on the other side of our yard:
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/Snow%201-30-10/DSC07937.jpg

Backyard:
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad284/ph3lps2/Snow%201-30-10/DSC07891.jpg

...and it's still snowing! This type of snow typically only happens every decade or so, from what I hear. Pictures are from mid-day today.

Dalmatiansoap

01-31-2010, 03:56 AM

That looks so freeeeeeezeeeee Taylor, brrrrrrrr......
Here is my situation at this moment after it was raining again this morning
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29383&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29383&ppuser=4565)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29382&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29382&ppuser=4565)
Still a bit chill (10 C) but much better :)
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw

01-31-2010, 05:33 AM

Dalmatiansoap

01-31-2010, 01:30 PM

Guess what?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29403&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29403&ppuser=4565)
it is raining AGAIN!!!
:banana-computer:
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw

01-31-2010, 03:04 PM

Guess what?

it is raining AGAIN!!!
:banana-computer:
:woohoonaner:
Oh, how I wish it was raining here too. :ukkibannana:

Abnshrek

02-01-2010, 11:57 AM

Oh how I Love to see it sleeting first thing in the morning... I guess if it stayed freezing my boat would look like the USS Popsicle.. :^)

sbl

02-01-2010, 02:41 PM

Did you have sleet over there today? I hope it stays north of here! I think we are suppose to get more rain--like we need it!

Jack Daw

02-02-2010, 09:39 AM

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29419><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29419&size=1 border=0></a>

<a href=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29420><img src=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29420&size=1 border=0></a>

I'm walking barefoot on this snow - like Bob. ;)

saltydad

02-03-2010, 06:20 PM

Issued by The National Weather Service
Baltimore/Washington, MD
2:45 pm EST, Wed., Feb. 3, 2010
... WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH... WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING.
* PRECIPITATION TYPE... SNOW.
* ACCUMULATIONS... THIS STORM IS LIKELY TO PRODUCE 12 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW IN THE WATCH AREA... WITH A GOOD CHANCE FOR LOCALIZED AMOUNTS OVER 20 INCHES.
* TIMING... SNOW IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN LATE MORNING FRIDAY... CONTINUING THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING.
* TEMPERATURES... HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MID 30S FRIDAY. FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY... TEMPERATURES WILL BE 25 TO 30 DEGREES.
* WINDS... EAST 5 TO 10 MPH FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT... BECOMING NORTH 10 TO 20 MPH SATURDAY.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
THIS STORM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE SIMILAR TO THE DECEMBER 19TH STORM. PLAN FOR SUBSTANTIAL DISRUPTIONS TO TRAVEL FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

Boy am I ready for Spring!!

john_ny

02-03-2010, 06:37 PM

Sorry to hear that. Good luck, Howard! As an aside, normally snow is good insulation; places in the mid-west have reported that fruit trees died down to the snow-line, and below that, they were OK.

Patty in Wisc

02-03-2010, 07:02 PM

Snow is excellent insulater so pile it on. Stock up on goods for weekend & good luck!

saltydad

02-03-2010, 07:21 PM

Patty in Wisc

02-03-2010, 09:36 PM

It's weird that you got more snow than I did this year.

harveyc

02-04-2010, 01:57 AM

We've had very nice weather for the past few days. I had to open the vent on my greenhouse today. Almonds and plums are getting read to bloom here but most things will stay dormant for another month. I obtained some pineapple guava scions this past weekend and since the weather is still cool here, I'm trying something new and taking root segments from some old in-ground plants and grafting onto them and potting them up and putting them in my greenhouse. Fingers are crossed. More rain to come at the end of the week but our ground is still saturated from recent storms.

Jack Daw

02-04-2010, 05:10 AM

Not really worried about the nanas, maybe a little for the palms. Really just sick of this snow every 3-4 days. No sooner cleaned up then hit again. It also means Mom stays inside. The car wash does a fantastic business.
Tell me about it. It snows here every 4 days (at least 5cm). Then the skies suddenly clear up and we get this incredible amount of sunshine that gives everyone headache (because of the snow reflection). :(

saltydad

02-05-2010, 01:34 AM

Now the upcoming snow is being called a 'mammoth storm'. I've decided this is the only sane response..
PANIC!!! (http://snowpocalypsedc.com/)

momoese

02-05-2010, 10:13 AM

Rainy day here.

D.C._Palms_N_Sports_Fan

02-05-2010, 12:19 PM

Well, here we go AGAIN! The mid Atlantic is under the gun again, just like we were back on 12/19/09. Conditions are going to start going down ill here in the National Capital area quickly tomorrow starting around 12PM. The difference with this storm, is that it appears to have alot more moisture with it, and will be much stronger when it redevelops off the coast. The models have really been pushing this for about 7 days now, and have pretty much all come into alignment. We knew this was going to be big, but now that it is getting to crunch time, the picture has been getting more clear. For the D.C. Metropolitan area, and for Baltimore, and Philadelphia for that matter as well, we are looking at 18-24" of snow or MORE. This storm will rapidly deepen once it moves off the coast of the Carolinas, and will not only be throwing massive amounts of moisture far inland, but will also really kick up the winds, especially along the coast of VA, MD, DC and NJ, prompting some blizzard warnings already for MD/DE/NJ coastal areas. High winds could come far inland as well. One thing that is of concern some models have been having this storm stall off of the coast of VA. This could potentially increase the snow totals for the major cities of the mid Atlantic by another 6-12".

I have to say, I have lived in Washington D.C. area my entire life, and it is very rare where we see this type of attention given to a storm, this far in advance, and this much. SO much so that almost all major school systems in the D.C. Metropolitan area have already closed for tomorrow. The school system closures started coming in as early as Thursday morning. The hardware and grocery stores here, are a madhouse, and many are running out of basic items. I saw this myself when I went to pick up a few things at the grocery store up the street. Some shelves are just bare. The parking lots are INSANE. It is the type of crowds you normally see before thanksgiving and Christmas here. There are major traffic jams just getting into and out of parking lots, and there are not enough shopping carts at stores to accommodate the crowds.

Hardware stores or any other place that carries ice melt, snow shovels, scrapers, blowers... or any other winter weather cleaning equipment, forget it, they are SOLD OUT, and have been all week. One hardware store up the street from me was on the news, they sold 350 snow shovels in 5 hours!!!!! All stores that sell this stuff is It truly is insanity. Youd think that people would go get this stuff in advance, and you would think that people would keep their snow removal items on hand. Where do they all go? LOL! Oh, and the prices, they have gone up on all that stuff. LOL! Im glad I'm prepared and keep that stuff on hand. I just don't get the "end of the world" mentality when it comes to winter storms, especially in the Washington metropolitan area. Its just crazy!

Jack Daw

02-05-2010, 01:04 PM

revensen

02-05-2010, 01:26 PM

It's a balmy 31 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than 1 inch possible. Tonights low around 22. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. Mix in an air quality alert and it's the making for a terrific weekend!

D.C._Palms_N_Sports_Fan

02-05-2010, 01:27 PM

What are the expected temperature lows?

Right now we sit at 32.2. The high was around 6am this morning of 36. As the snow comes down, the temps are droping, about into the mid 20s, and thats where they will stay for the duration of the storm. The real cold nighttime lows are expected to come sunday night thru next wednesday night and possibly beyond. The lowest I saw was 11F on the 5 day, and that is supposed to be for in the downtown areas of Washington. So not too cold during the major winter storm, but afterward some pretty cold stuff is coming. YUK!

Jack Daw

02-05-2010, 01:53 PM

Right now we sit at 32.2. The high was around 6am this morning of 36. As the snow comes down, the temps are droping, about into the mid 20s, and thats where they will stay for the duration of the storm. The real cold nighttime lows are expected to come sunday night thru next wednesday night and possibly beyond. The lowest I saw was 11F on the 5 day, and that is supposed to be for in the downtown areas of Washington. So not too cold during the major winter storm, but afterward some pretty cold stuff is coming. YUK!
Ew, have you covered your palms for that mess?

D.C._Palms_N_Sports_Fan

02-05-2010, 02:52 PM

Ew, have you covered your palms for that mess?

The Trachys in pots are wrapped in xmas lights and plastic, as they have been most of the winter. The crowns are exposed though, and they should be just fine.

The Needle, and the 4 Sabal Minor in the ground are not covered, and will not be covered. They will come through this with no damage.

Here is what we are getting:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ctNZ-KVYcgU/S2xqt-E5v6I/AAAAAAAAAT4/n43nCPoWWII/s640/SnowperbowlDC2010.jpg

For your reference, I am located at the very bottom right part of the "D" in DC on that map. I am in Old Town Alexandria, VA about 3/4 mile from the shores of the tidal Potomac River.

Patty in Wisc

02-05-2010, 04:02 PM

If temps are around 30, the snow will be more compacted & heavy to shovel. If you don't shovel before the real cold comes in, it will be real hard to get up. When it snows when it's real cold, the snow is deeper but lighter & easier to shovel. Good luck to you all.
We've been pretty lucky these last few years, but I remember one year looking out early a.m. & I couldn't tell where my car was LOL. It was one big 7 ft high snow bank with cars parked under. I walked to a bus stop (still dark out)to get to work & a plow came by...asked what I was doing there & then said 'there are no busses running' LOL. So I jumped in the city plow & he took me to work about 1 1/2 miles. There were no ppl, no cars ...it was like being in the twilight zone LOL. Walking to bus stop - snow was above my knees. I had knee high boots on but was wearing a dress LOL
The whole city was closed but I worked at a hotel & had to be there.

justjoan

02-05-2010, 04:09 PM

Its been snowing off and on all day and now its just a slushy mess on the roads, I am most anxious to be making my exit come early Wednesday AM for Florida,:woohoonaner: but then I only have to come back to it all!!! I can't figure out why this year it just seems to be dragging, maybe because I just ordered two new banana's, even though they won't be here til spring, I am excited. They are predicting a larger amount of snow for Sunday into Monday BAH!!!:waving:

Patty in Wisc

02-05-2010, 04:30 PM

I hope you have a great time Joan. Don't get too sunburned & think of us northerners when you are laying at beach drinking something tropical :)

justjoan

02-05-2010, 04:32 PM

Might be forced to try a Banana Daiquiri, wait that's another thread, sorry!:goteam: :)

sunfish

02-05-2010, 08:49 PM

Rain

saltydad

02-05-2010, 09:37 PM

Patty in Wisc

02-05-2010, 10:31 PM

Looks like you'll be breaking records huh? I don't care where one lives, 20-30 inches of snow is a LOT!

Nicolas Naranja

02-05-2010, 11:43 PM

Besides the whole cold weather thing we have thus far had a great Winter with just the right amount of rain. We had about 0.5" today and a total of 1" for the week. I think we are supposed to have a low around 50 degrees tomorrow night.

CookieCows

02-06-2010, 12:00 AM

News Alert: National Weather Service issues stern warning
02:24 PM EST Friday, February 5, 2010
--------------------

Forecasters say incoming storm is "as dangerous as winter weather can get" and advise that between 20 and 30 inches of snow will fall on the mid-Atlantic region by Saturday night.

Well this just goes to show me that there is always someone that has it worse! They're saying that we had more snow last week then in the last 12 years and that was about 7 inches where I am. It rained all day today and the stock pond is flooded, a seasonal branch is running swiftly and the pool isn't draining fast enough.

D.C._Palms_N_Sports_Fan

02-06-2010, 03:35 AM

I will be adding plenty of pics tomorrow. I have been in and out all night. Shoveling trying to keep up, and went for a walk. So far about 19" of snow, and its still snowing at about 2-3" per hour. We have had 3 "THUNDERSNOWS" so far tonight, with frequent lightining. I am pretty certain the last thundersnow I saw was in the blizzard of 1996.

Winds are gusting over 40 MPH, Blizzard conditions have persisted since about 11PM EST with visibilities about 1-3 tenths of one mile at best. There at times have been whiteout conditions, with visibilities dropping to under 50 feet. The whiteout conditions usually last for about 1 minute during the very strong gale force gusts. On my walk I encountered some drifts that were probably 3-4 feet. Some trees are snapping. So far we have not lost power here, but tens of thousands in the D.C. Metro are currently without power. Its hard to measure exactly how much snow there is, because in some places the ground is bare, and in others there is 4 feet. I took my measurements in the least exposed place possible, and 19" is what I got 3 out of 5 times. The other two times, I got 17" Suffice it to say, that, on my hour long walk, it looked like something you would see on top of Mt. Washington, NH, or at a camp near the north or south pole. Snow accumulated 2,3,4" on the vertical side surfaces of buildings, signs, trees, stoplights completely packed with snow....etc. Snow does the strangest stuff when its blown around so much by gale force winds for sure.

Btw... the in ground palms are totally BURIED. Gone. I have been brushing off both potted trachys, every hour or two, but they are buried up to their pot brims and then some.

More pics tomrrow. Im beat tired, but it sure is hard to sleep with this kind of insanity going on outside.

saltydad

02-06-2010, 11:27 AM

We're OK, have 26" on the back patio without drifting. My car is buried under drifts in the driveway.My palms are also completely buried. The snow is still coming down hard, but at least we have power and heat. One of my brothers lost power at 4 AM. We'll just cross our fingers we retain power. The DISH Network hasn't gone out, which itself is a miracle, so I guess we'll just read , listen to music, and watch some movies today.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29550&size=1

my front porch through the living room window.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29551&size=1

The back patio

CookieCows

02-06-2010, 11:41 AM

Howard it sounds like you're in an igloo.... best of luck. I hope you keep power and this passes quickly!

sunfish

02-07-2010, 10:17 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29559&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29559&ppuser=2868)

Richard

02-07-2010, 10:43 AM

It's going to be a beautiful day at the Leucadia Farmers Market

harveyc

02-07-2010, 11:55 AM

Hey, Richard, are you making Tracy do all the packing and set-up??? Get going! :ha:

Dalmatiansoap

02-07-2010, 03:16 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29564&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29564&ppuser=4565)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29565&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29565&ppuser=4565)
It was a bit windy today. After winds from North we ussually get some better weather.
:woohoonaner:

Richard

02-07-2010, 05:39 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29564&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29564&ppuser=4565)
It was a bit windy today. After winds from North we ussually get some better weather.

Interesting how the waves are perpendicular to the coast.

D.C._Palms_N_Sports_Fan

02-08-2010, 08:49 AM

Hey there,

Sorry for the delay in posting. Just so much to do, see....etc. SO many incredible stories to tell. Suffice it to say that the forecast was correct. From the timing, to the accumulations, they hit this nail dead on the head. Once again, true to form, National Airport, which is one mile from me was one of the lowest totals, measuring 17.8", surpassing the blizzard of 1996. I live 1 mile from National airport, and I measured no less than 20" and no more than 26".The wind blew it around so much its hard to get an accurate measurement. 23" seems to be the most common number measured in and around my area, although some measured has high as 30". 27" was a very common number throughout the entire Washington Metropolitan area. Snow drifts of 3-5 feet were/ are common. Blizzard conditions were common, and whiteout condiditons did happen several times during the event. Visibilities were from at best 3 tenths of a mile, to often times less than 50 feet. Commonly, you could see about 1 city block. Winds were in the 30-40MPH range. Snow fall rates at times were 2+ inches per hour, and at 3 different times during this storm, we had THUNDERSNOW, with frequent lightining. It was during these thunder snowstorms when at times the snowfall rates would increase to nearly 4" per hour. It literally looked fake at times, as if someone was on he roof dumping buckets of snow over the side.

All but the final 4 or 5 inches was a very heavy wet snow, which was the reason for such massive numbers of power outages (hundreds of thousands) and numerous building collapses. Buildings are STILL collapsing even today. A 102 year old chruch as collapsed completely, a hanger at Dulles airport has collapsed, A fire house, a post office, a school, a shopping center... collapsed. Just to name a few. And the trees, forget it. There are trees bent, broken, or down, even uprooted, all over the area, on power lines, and over roads. There are still nearly 100,000 people without power that I am seeing on the news. Our subway system, METRO, suspended above ground service at 11PM on Friday evening, and will remain limited to only under ground service at least through today. METRO bus service is still also suspended, except for on a very limited basis. (about 8 lines out of a couple hundred) Most side streets remain untouched. Secondary roads are not very good, Man roads are passable, even stretches of more than 1 lane (were talking one lane for BOTH directions) and the interstates are in fair shape with 2 lanes, sometimes 3 available, but keep in mind that most of this is just very packed snow, except on the interstates, where there is a fair amount of slushy pavement. It has not been above freezing since about 12PM friday, and last n ight was in the low teens in the city, as is expected for the next few nights, with highs around 30. One bright spot, yesterday and today were both sunny. Today we MAY nudge above 32 for a time. Snow removal has become a problem as well, as there is simply just no where to put it. There is also no where for anyone to walk, so all foot traffic (and ski traffic) is in the roads as well, creating even more congestion.

However, we are once again under a winter storm watch, with potentially another 5-10 inches of snow Tuesday afternoon thru Wednesday afternoon. For places that it snows all the time like ski resorts or something, this is fine. For this area, well lets just say the word I would use to describe what it has done would be "crippling". Anyway, wont bore you with anymore typing.

Because there are so many photos I am only going to a few pics, before and after of a few things for comparison, and perhaps a couple more as teasers. I will link you to the album where the rest of the photos are located so you can view them at your leisure.

saltydad

02-08-2010, 02:20 PM

Hey KJ, I don't know about you but I'm ready for some warmth! I know the snow is a good insulator against the cold temps we've been having, but enough is enough. Another up to 10" Tuesday evening-Wednesday, and now a possibility for a weekend snowstorm again. Time to pull out the Jamisons. BTW, my own official reading in my backyard patio where it's level, 31".

saltydad

02-08-2010, 05:12 PM

Statement as of 3:04 PM EST on February 08, 2010

... Winter Storm Warning in effect from noon Tuesday to 7 PM EST
Wednesday...

The National Weather Service in Sterling Virginia has issued a
Winter Storm Warning for... which is in effect from noon Tuesday
to 7 PM EST Wednesday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in
effect.

* Precipitation type... snow.

* Accumulations... 10 to 20 inches.

* Timing... mid-afternoon Tuesday through Wednesday.

* Temperatures... temperatures near freezing at the onset Tuesday
afternoon. Temperatures will drop into the upper 20s Tuesday
night and Wednesday.

* Winds... light southeasterly winds Tuesday becoming
northwesterly 15 to 25 mph Wednesday.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Winter Storm Warning means significant amounts of snow are
expected or occurring. The combination of snow and strong winds
will make travel very hazardous.

This is getting ridiculous.

sunfish

02-09-2010, 09:19 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29613&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29613&ppuser=2868)

justjoan

02-09-2010, 09:22 AM

LOVE THOSE PALM TREES!!!!! I WANT ONE!!! Great picture, thanks so much for sharing!:woohoonaner:

Patty in Wisc

02-09-2010, 09:23 PM

Tony, your last pic is black w/only a few lights at bottom. What is it?
We are in midst of snow emergency. Some parts look over 2 feet & it'll keep coming till tomorrow. It is soooo windy, snow is blowing sideways - looks like a sand storm.
I shoveled twice today so I'll just wait till tomorrow.
I think this is coming your way Howard:(

sbl

02-09-2010, 11:00 PM

Our abnormally cold winter seems mild in comparison to all those people in the NorthEast--(that still doesn't make me like it). Anyway, I feel for all of those snow bound members up there.

harveyc

02-10-2010, 12:09 AM

Patty, you need to calibrate your monitor (or get a new one?). Tony's photo has a dozen or so palm trees with very dark storm clouds. The "lights" you see are sunlight off in the distance.

Patty in Wisc

02-10-2010, 12:54 AM

Thanks sbl, I was OK till now. I just looked out & see that the plow went by again & plowed me in real good across the street. I woulda been better off if I never moved my car!
We have parking restrictions that no one can park across the street untill it's plowed. So, it got plowed & I spun a donut & parked there. Now I gotta get out & shovel me out....grrrrr. Cars parked in front are fine.

sbl

02-10-2010, 07:41 AM

My son sent me pictures from MD, the snow is getting close to 4 ft deep now--with drifts well over 6 ft. Many people without power, grocery stores even if they are open are running out of food. Most days have not even made it up to freezing for more than a week. There may be even one more snow storm in the forecast!

sunfish

02-10-2010, 08:27 AM

Harvey were 4 degrees colder than you. Whats up with that.

Dalmatiansoap

02-10-2010, 11:04 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29626&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29626&ppuser=4565)
blaaaaaaah

Scuba_Dave

02-10-2010, 02:28 PM

Wet melting snow right now
Changing to all snow as Temp drops

saltydad

02-10-2010, 02:53 PM

http://www.wnff.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11494.0;attach=4080;image

saltydad

02-10-2010, 02:56 PM

..extremely Dangerous Winter Weather Conditions This Morning For The Baltimore-washington Region...the Eastern Panhandle Of West Virginia...

Do Not Attempt To Drive This Morning And Early Afternoon. Life Threatening Blizzard Conditions Have Developed Rapidly Across The Baltimore-washington Region This Morning.

At 7:27 Am This Morning...a Wind Gust Was Recorded To 60 Mph At Manassas Virginia. Numerous Wind Gusts Over 40 Mph Have Observed Around The Region Along With White-out Conditions.

If You Get Stranded In Your Vehicle...do Not Leave Your Car To Try To Walk For Assistance...you Can Quickly Become Disoriented In Wind Driven Snow And Cold. This Storm Will Subside Early This Evening...so Wait In Your Car For Emergency Help To Arrive. Periodically Run Your Engine For About 10 Minutes Each Hour For Heat. Ensure Your Exhaust Pipe Is Cleared Of Snow And Ice. Crack Your Windows To Avoid Carbon Monoxide Poisoning. Tie A Colored Cloth To Your Cars Antenna To Be Visible To Rescuers. From Time- To-time...move Your Arms...legs...fingers...and Toes To Keep Blood Circulating.

saltydad

02-10-2010, 03:04 PM

With idiotic drivers out in the D.C. snow, observers are driven to distraction

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Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 10, 2010

Some idiot was sliding around near Arlington's Court House Metro station in a tiny BMW with pathetic rear-wheel drive, spinning his tires uselessly as he tried again and again to climb an unplowed street. "He kept trying to get up the hill, and I kept encouraging him to park," says a dumbfounded Brandon Tudor, who observed the mess. "At least 10 times -- locking up his brakes, sliding back down the hill. I almost yanked him out of the car."
Some other location, some other idiot. This one pulled into the parking lot of the Montgomery Village Shopping Center in Gaithersburg, where he was spotted by Dan Wasyluk blithely driving around with three feet of snow piled on top of his SUV. "How can he not realize," Wasyluk wondered, awestruck, "that a 60-pound chunk of snow on top of your car is going to fly off and hit someone else's windshield?"
(Why is this particular infraction -- yes, it's illegal -- so common? After digging the rest of a vehicle out of an avalanche of snow, what makes a person suddenly stop and say, "I'm liking this snow-pompadour look on top"?)
These past few days, the sane people of the region have been dedicating themselves to making sure you do not have to drive anywhere. The federal government has been shut down. Employers have offered telecommuting options. But as roads are plowed and cupboards are bare and cabin fever sets in, cars have begun to appear on the roads again, and many witnesses agree: The idiots are on the loose.
"So this Chevy Suburban," Rudi Reik says. "This Chevy Suburban was driving behind a firetruck," down a narrow Dupont Circle street in the middle of blizzard conditions. Apparently, the driver decided that the official vehicle was not moving fast enough. "He pulled out into the opposing lane of traffic and tried to pass," beaten back only when the fire engine honked wildly. Idiot.
"The road hadn't been plowed or even salted." Kathryn Hedrick describes a midnight scene outside her College Park apartment. "But there was a group of people pushing a sedan." Over and over again, they would send it skidding dangerously close to a row of parked cars, before disappearing onto another road, with other opportunities for damage.
We are agreed, yes, that the biggest trouble with the incompetent snow boob in Washington is that he never recognizes that he is the boob? That he tootles into the gas station in his Mini Cooper, then complains that the entryway hasn't been shoveled properly? That he endlessly spins his wheels in the middle of an intersection, then looks baffled when he has produced a tractionless patch that will later become ice?
Some idiot appeared driving a Miata in the District's Mount Pleasant neighborhood, where he tried, for reasons unknown to God or man, to park on an unplowed street. Jason Kowal and friends spent much time and muscle helping him, only to have the idiot demand to be moved out again: He was afraid of getting a ticket and wanted a better parking space. That might be the last time Kowal offers assistance. "I think we're all at the stage," Kowal says, "of shaking our heads and moving on."
Washington idiots cannot be taught, in the course of one snowstorm, advanced snow behavior. These skills must be acquired through lifetimes of bad weather driving.
Kevin McCann left his Southwest Washington townhouse complex on a recent morning to discover that his neighbor, wearing dress pants, was trying to dig his car out using the oar from a rubber dinghy. When he finished, he began inexplicably breaking up the ice under his car with a claw hammer. McCann is from Canada, and as he watched this bizarre routine, he felt mostly sympathy. It would have been idiotic, if it weren't so sad.

Patty in Wisc

02-10-2010, 03:30 PM

quote:
"If You Get Stranded In Your Vehicle...do Not Leave Your Car To Try To Walk For Assistance...you Can Quickly Become Disoriented In Wind Driven Snow And Cold. This Storm Will Subside Early This Evening...so Wait In Your Car For Emergency Help To Arrive. Periodically Run Your Engine For About 10 Minutes Each Hour For Heat. Ensure Your Exhaust Pipe Is Cleared Of Snow And Ice. Crack Your Windows To Avoid Carbon Monoxide Poisoning. Tie A Colored Cloth To Your Cars Antenna To Be Visible To Rescuers. From Time- To-time...move Your Arms...legs...fingers...and Toes To Keep Blood Circulating."
Excellent advice! I was also told to keep a candle in the car. 1 lit candle can provide some heat - I never had to try it. Then in summer, I forgot about it & it melted in my glove box LOL.
There were a couple years when we got bombarded w/snow, stores were selling5-6ft plastic poles with orange flags at top to put on your car. Snowbanks were so big that at intersections you could not see if a car was coming, but you could see their flag & they could see yours.

saltydad

02-10-2010, 03:38 PM

No one liked my map? Trying for a tad bit of humor here.

Richard

02-10-2010, 03:38 PM

If I'm stranded in a vehicle in bad weather then the windows are shut. How long would it take for a candle flame to consume a major portion of the oxygen and replace it with unhelpful gases?

sbl

02-10-2010, 03:52 PM

Basic chemistry says 12 g of candle (not very much) would consume about 44 liters of pure oxygen (about 50 gallons worth of air). So if you do not have an exchange of air with the outside--the answer would be --not long.

Patty in Wisc

02-10-2010, 04:15 PM

I didn't see a map (?)
When windows are closed, it doesn't cut off all oxygen.

Richard

02-10-2010, 04:26 PM

With the windows closed and snow/water piling up on the intake vents a candle in the car is a quick way to die, albeit a painless sleep.

john_ny

02-10-2010, 04:46 PM

http://www.johngrows.com/SnowA2010.jpg

http://www.johngrows.com/SnowB2010.jpg

Scuba_Dave

02-10-2010, 05:46 PM

http://www.wnff.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11494.0;attach=4080;image

The Red X Map ?

Patty in Wisc

02-10-2010, 08:27 PM

How long would it take for a candle flame to consume a major portion of the oxygen and replace it with unhelpful gases?
Where are the "unhelpful" gases coming from?
I meant with the car not running or out of gas. I either read in paper or saw on tv to keep a candle in car for a little heat. I'm going to try this as experiment LOL. Gonna put a thermometer in car when in 20's F, lite a candle & see how long it burns & then check temp. (without me in it) Maybe w/ my luck, the candle will fall over & blow the car up LOL.

Wow John, that's quite the winter wonderland you have there! That's the heavy wet stuff that sticks to everything...sure looks pretty.

Bob

02-10-2010, 08:53 PM

If I'm stranded in a vehicle in bad weather then the windows are shut. How long would it take for a candle flame to consume a major portion of the oxygen and replace it with unhelpful gases?

What were you eating prior?:ha:

momoese

02-10-2010, 09:07 PM

http://www.johngrows.com/SnowA2010.jpg

http://www.johngrows.com/SnowB2010.jpg

Pain in the butt,.......but it sure makes for pretty pictures! :)

Richard

02-10-2010, 09:13 PM

Where are the "unhelpful" gases coming from?

Oxygen combusted with Candle Wax yields unhelpful gases, some of which are toxic and the rest not useful for human respiration.

Patty in Wisc

02-10-2010, 11:10 PM

What about all those scented candles that we burn? I know ppl that burn candles all the time in their houses & if they are giving out harmful gases, shouldn't they be made aware? Esp in winter when our houses are sealed up. I never heard of harmful or "unhelpful" gases in candles. Is it a certain ingredient in some that are harmful, &
what is it?
I know candles eat oxygen but with all windows closed in a car, it is still not sealed airtight where one would suffocate (like inside of a fridge). And, it seems safer than breathing cig smoke in a small room.
All I know is what I read, or heard, is that if you are stuck in your car in xtreme cold (no engine running), lite a candle - it said "you'd be surprised at how much heat you can get from a candle in this situation". Seems logical & better than freezing to death. And then think of how long can 1 candle burn for. I s'pose if you had candles burning for 2-3 days strait, well.... that would be different I guess.
Hopefully, you didn't eat beans that day, right Bob LOL.

Richard

02-10-2010, 11:49 PM

Abnshrek

02-11-2010, 12:53 AM

If we are talking about a small sedan, I would guess you'd start feeling sleepy in about 5 minutes. A house of course has an enormous volume of air compared to a car. Most cars don't have chimneys either -- although Bob's car might smoke like a chimney!

I've had regular candle burning in a snow cave on several occasions to stay warm but I sure wouldn't do that in a car. I like my air with as lil co2 as possible. Maybe I can make a snowman tomorrow evening :^) 4" of white crap coming our way... lol
Now maybe granny from the beverly hillbillies has a wood burning stove in the backseat of some hoopdy... lol rollin' down the road looking like an ole fashioned locomotive. :^)

SoBe Musa

02-11-2010, 07:07 AM

Weather for Miami Beach, FL - at 6:30am
39°F | °C
Current: Clear
Wind: NW at 20 mph
Humidity: 62%

LIVE CAM
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/florida/miami/

Dalmatiansoap

02-11-2010, 07:17 AM

Weather for Miami Beach, FL - at 6:30am
39°F | °C
Current: Clear
Wind: NW at 20 mph
Humidity: 62%

LIVE CAM
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/florida/miami/
Can U refresh that link?
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw

02-11-2010, 07:45 AM

Weather for Miami Beach, FL - at 6:30am
39°F | °C
Current: Clear
Wind: NW at 20 mph
Humidity: 62%

LIVE CAM
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/florida/miami/
Welcome to the USDA zone 10, SoBe Musa. You're officially not tropical. :ha:

fishoifc

02-11-2010, 09:37 AM

another day at the beach, gust to 60 knots,rain, 35*. worst winter I remember. Only working about two days a week, I am over it!!!

Abnshrek

02-11-2010, 10:23 AM

A Big Blanket of Puffy White Stuff is falling from the skies.. WTH.. lol Oh well I guess I'll enjoy it.. :^) but it better get warm around here pretty soon..

Richard

02-11-2010, 01:05 PM

What about all those scented candles that we burn? I know ppl that burn candles all the time in their houses & if they are giving out harmful gases, shouldn't they be made aware? Esp in winter when our houses are sealed up. I never heard of harmful or "unhelpful" gases in candles. Is it a certain ingredient in some that are harmful, &
what is it?

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS
February 11, 2010
A San Diego County family is expected to recover after being hospitalized for carbon monoxide poisoning.

A fire dispatcher says a Santee couple and their four children were taken to the hospital shortly after 11 p.m. Wednesday after the man called 911 to report his family was ill.

Firefighters found a high level of carbon monoxide in the home but the cause was under investigation.

Carbon monoxide is a colorless and odorless gas that can kill in sufficient quantity. It can spread into homes from faulty heaters or blocked fireplaces and deaths often occur during colder months.

sunfish

02-11-2010, 01:39 PM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29634&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29634&ppuser=2868)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29636&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29636&ppuser=2868)

djmb74

02-11-2010, 07:33 PM

I wouldn't think most cars are that airtight for one candle to cause a major problem there unless you are at a really high elevation...

If I'm stranded in a vehicle in bad weather then the windows are shut. How long would it take for a candle flame to consume a major portion of the oxygen and replace it with unhelpful gases?

millworkman

02-11-2010, 08:00 PM

34 and windy, and snowy, and rainy, and crappy.

Abnshrek

02-12-2010, 05:27 AM

34 and windy, and snowy, and rainy, and crappy.

Same here except I'm colder... we have at least 4 inches. I think I have a 24' bobsled in the yard.. :^)

sbl

02-12-2010, 06:14 PM

It rained all day here, but I saw a couple snowflakes! Otherwise just nasty wet and cold. Still no relief in sight.

djmb74

02-12-2010, 06:50 PM

all rainy and nasty here as well.

I swear my chickens think they are ducks! They were staying out running around the yard in the rain like it was sunny and fine outside instead of in the covered coop and run area...

sunfish

02-14-2010, 10:46 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29716&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29716&ppuser=2868)

Dalmatiansoap

02-14-2010, 11:44 AM

Hmmm, Tony do U know what are the "clouds"?:ha::ha::ha:
Im jelaous:nanadrink:
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw

02-14-2010, 11:59 AM

Hmmm, Tony do U know what are the "clouds"?:ha::ha::ha:
Im jelaous:nanadrink:
:woohoonaner:
Yeah, living in southern Arizona means seeing rain like twice a year. :ha: Los Angeles and San Diego is probably more rainy, but not that much though. It still borders on climatical elements of ocean and desert, just like Northern Egypt, Marocco... But without the Nile. You would miss the rain, Ante, 100%. ;)

sunfish

02-14-2010, 11:59 AM

Hmmm, Tony do U know what are the "clouds"?:ha::ha::ha:
Im jelaous:nanadrink:
:woohoonaner:

Believe me I need some sun. It's been way to wet and damp for my in ground banana plants.I'm going to have to do something about my clay soil it stays way to wet.

SoBe Musa

02-14-2010, 01:24 PM

Weather for Miami Beach, Florida
59°F | °C
Current: Partly Cloudy
Wind: NW at 20 mph
Humidity: 52%

http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz77/SoBe_Musa/MiamiBeachFeb142010.jpg

sbl

02-14-2010, 06:41 PM

That looks nice Emily, even though 59 is pretty cold for Miami Beach.

sunfish

02-15-2010, 09:42 AM

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29732&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29732&ppuser=2868)

Richard

02-15-2010, 01:26 PM

Tony, a picture a day keeps my happiness in play!

Dalmatiansoap

02-15-2010, 01:39 PM

First day with the real smell of Spring
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=29740&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=29740&ppuser=4565)
:woohoonaner:

saltydad

02-15-2010, 04:31 PM

Randy, I noticed that your area seemed to be in the latest snow zone. Hope you all do better than we have!

Bob

02-15-2010, 05:00 PM

Howard.... the artic circle has done better than you this year!....hahahahaha

Sorry man but you've had more snow in one storm than I have several hours north of you all season...

Has the world gone off it axis or what? Any way..... hahahahahaha:ha:

(written from the relative safety of distance and the computer)