View Full Version : Safet Velchi vs. Chini Champa and synonyms
Richard
01-20-2008, 12:29 PM
In the wiki at Bananas.org, Safet Velchi is listed as a synonym of Chini Champa along with Bale, Champa-kala, Elakki, Kisubi, and Sukari. The genetic type is given as AB.
Over the last week, I've come across analytic reports from 5 different agricultural research stations stating that Chini Champa is type AAB, with the solo synonym of Champa-kala.
I've also found reports from 6 research stations that Safet Velchi is type AB with synonyms of Elakki Bale, Kisubi, and Sukari.
Between the two sets of reports, the characterizations of Safet Velchi and Chini Champa also differ.
More data would be good. Anyone care to throw in their two cents?
Thanks!
Gabe15
01-20-2008, 03:51 PM
'Chini Champa' should be AB, however, banana landrace names are not standardized in any way, so there could be more then one variety being called 'Chini Champa' in different regions. The best you can do is verify as many popular synonyms as possible, because no single name has any real correctness over another...if that makes sense :rolleyes:
the flying dutchman
01-20-2008, 05:17 PM
:waving: From what I remember i think Bioversity lists Chini Champa and safet velchi
as the same banana. But I could be mistaken.:confused:
Its so confusing...:eek:
If the wiki says AB probably correct..I think
Elakki Bale is champa-kala
Ron
Richard
01-20-2008, 09:38 PM
Its so confusing...:eek:
I agree, it is definately a puzzle. :0493:
Gabe15
01-20-2008, 10:00 PM
I agree, it is definately a puzzle. :0493:
Welcome to the world of banana taxonomy!
Richard
01-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Detangling the taxonomy of Hebes is also difficult, but with those species you know with certainty where the plant came from and most of them are still growing in the wild.
In the case of bananas, it is good to see that gene scans and other "bar-coding" techniques are being used to specify what individual they are working with.
Richard
07-28-2017, 02:34 AM
Bump. :0493:
Tytaylor77
07-28-2017, 04:07 AM
I have Chini Champa and have New Paven/Neypoovan. Both appear to be the same variety to me. AB does look correct and shows to be correct in the research I have done. Research shows Safet Velchi is also synonymous with the two.
I can also verify they are NOT AAB Mysore! Or in the Mysore group! The name for Mysore in India is Champa! Not Chini Champa! Another name for Mysore is poovan. Not neypoovan!
Research I have done also backs up this information. Taste and fruit is way different as well. Both of mine are WAY different than AAB Mysore which are growing right beside them! Different look, different fruit, and different taste!
druss
07-28-2017, 05:36 AM
I have a ney poovan I got in tc. The lady there lists it as AB with a synonym of Safet Velchi.
Tytaylor77
07-29-2017, 02:41 AM
You will like them! Tiny banana with Snow White flesh! Very hard texture also! For sure not creamy or fluffy!
druss
07-29-2017, 04:35 AM
Awesome, I cant wait to try all the new ones.
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