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shopgirl2
11-10-2007, 08:48 AM
How do I go about a posting for a seller of bananas that has received payment and is negligent in mailing the plant?
Is there a group for this type?

I am aware many people here do business with Ebay. But this person has done wrong.

thanks for input.

Tropicallvr
11-10-2007, 01:53 PM
Try googling "Garden watchdog" or something like that. It's a feature on the "Daves Garden" forum/site, and is really helpful for checking peoples feedback. TY TY used to be on there too, but they filed a lawsuit against Daves Garden, so he took theirs off.
Maybe you should contact them again, if the plant never shows then give them a bad rating on ebay, and sometimes all it takes it threatening to file mail fraud against them, but it pays to be careful about overreacting.
I hope you get your banana.

bananimal
11-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Hey Carmensol (shopgirl),

You scared the heck out of me with this post. I thought you were talking about me. Didn't read your thank you email sent before this post until after logging on to B.org.

Now I know everything is OK. I've been having problems with my computer lately and I can't open Outlook Express first after logging on. Connectivity will be lost. However, if I open Bananas.org first thru Yahoo, and then open Outlook everything is OK. It didn't used to be like this - it's a new problem.

So glad you recieved the Saba, dwf Orinoco and Pitogo in good shape. I know I went overboard with the packing technique. It's a combination of Going Bananas and Stokes methods. Nothing moves around and the roots will stay damp for a week at least.

PM me for questions, and how the plants are doing anytime.

Dan

klemmthamm
11-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Dan I have a PM inbound to ya!


-James-

klemmthamm
11-10-2007, 09:40 PM
Carmensol, what is the user's name on Ebay?

If you don't want to post it here just yet then PM it to me. Just curious because I am friends with a couple of people who sell bananas there and I was wanting to see if it was one of them... if it is someone I know I can give them a ring and find out what the deal is.

-James-

valerie@flower
11-11-2007, 04:43 AM
That is really nice of you James to help out a fellow member. Camensol you have a good support team here. Hope you sort things out with the ebayer.
Valerie;)

klemmthamm
11-11-2007, 05:19 AM
Valerie, I just do what I can :D ... I must note though, that the people I know that sell on ebay are really good people that honor their word but you never know if something happened to them (ailment, family emergency, etc.) that may have prevented them from getting things out on time.


-James-

sandy0225
11-11-2007, 02:24 PM
You should go onto e-bay and open a dispute for the item.
It will walk you through it. That way, ebay will be able to help you receive your item, or satisfaction for it.
It is also possible that the item was sent and somehow was pilfered before you got your mail. That happened to one of my customers. The usps confirmation showed they received it, but they never did receive it. I ended up sending them another one since I had several. But there are several options that you can take to remedy the situation.

sandy0225
11-11-2007, 02:25 PM
P.S. You can buy off me next time, I send out my merchandise....LOL
Have to get those little advertisements in where you can.....

Kylie2x
11-11-2007, 03:45 PM
WOW!! searching Sandy out who knows what I might find!!!! I hope you will share your BAD vendor with us somehow. I would hate to be the next victim...
Kylie

pitangadiego
11-11-2007, 05:47 PM
USPS Confirmation means NOTHiNG. The letter-carrier marks that it was delivered, but the recipient/addressee doen't have to sign for it, see it, or even be notified that it was "delivered". It is NOT proof of delivery, only proof that the letter-carrier marked it off his list.

valerie@flower
11-12-2007, 07:20 AM
Since we are on the subject of buyer beware. Never bid or buy anything that does not have the shipping total or estimated amount for shipping. There was an Ebayer I had a run in with. She had an item that she claimed was to big to fit into her car to mail out. She expected the buyer to pay for the pick-up from a moving company, packaging from UPS at her house with shipping. The total for the junk she was selling ended up being three times as much as the item. After the inquiry with all these added fees she was reported to Ebay to advise buyers of the added fees. The item was taken off shortly afterwards. So be careful if something is too big or heavy weight.

shopgirl2
11-16-2007, 09:31 AM
Hey Carmensol (shopgirl),

You scared the heck out of me with this post. I thought you were talking about me. Didn't read your thank you email sent before this post until after logging on to B.org.

Now I know everything is OK. I've been having problems with my computer lately and I can't open Outlook Express first after logging on. Connectivity will be lost. However, if I open Bananas.org first thru Yahoo, and then open Outlook everything is OK. It didn't used to be like this - it's a new problem.

So glad you recieved the Saba, dwf Orinoco and Pitogo in good shape. I know I went overboard with the packing technique. It's a combination of Going Bananas and Stokes methods. Nothing moves around and the roots will stay damp for a week at least.

PM me for questions, and how the plants are doing anytime.

Dan

Not in your life. I am very impressed with your professionalism and the way in which you kept communications open throughout. I take this oipportunity to say that the bananas are already sleeping in their new containers with new soil. They are at t his time in an open carport protected with clear plastic bags. Not too cold here as yet (32F) North Carolina last night, but no frost.
I am so proud of those plants! Thank you so very very much!

shopgirl2
11-16-2007, 09:35 AM
Carmensol, what is the user's name on Ebay?

If you don't want to post it here just yet then PM it to me. Just curious because I am friends with a couple of people who sell bananas there and I was wanting to see if it was one of them... if it is someone I know I can give them a ring and find out what the deal is.

Thank you for your concern, however, I feel it is best to keep the person anonymous at this time.

I have lost on a sale, but could have lost more. another lesson to learn.

This transaction took place BEFORE I knew about htis wonderful forum, bananas.org.

Just be careful when dealing with some vendors on E-Bay.

Tropicallvr
11-16-2007, 11:45 AM
I paid $50.00 in shipping from the UK (didn't read carefully enough before I bid), after I noticed my mistake I asked why it was so high, and that I thought it was too much. He just said that with import costs and permit fee that it what it would come to. I didn't belive him but paid anyway. It arrived without any permit, with a label that didn't say it was a plant, with postage for about $6.00. I complained and got threats in return, so I wrote up a bad review for him, and in turn got I bad review for myself. Then he requested through Ebay that we both take down our bad reviews, but I'm stubborn and wouldn't do it even though it made my approval percentage look bad.
Even with feedback it's hard to tell if someone is on the up and up because of the blackmail type tactics that are employed in retailiation.
Have had good luck with most sellers though.

bencelest
11-16-2007, 12:14 PM
Please pm me so I know this guy.
I would not want to deal with this kind either.

harveyc
11-16-2007, 01:30 PM
USPS Confirmation means NOTHiNG. The letter-carrier marks that it was delivered, but the recipient/addressee doen't have to sign for it, see it, or even be notified that it was "delivered". It is NOT proof of delivery, only proof that the letter-carrier marked it off his list.

That's for sure, Jon, though it is usually a pretty good indication it was actually delivered. I've sent out about 1,500 packages via USPS Priority in the past three years and only had one case where the delivery confirmation was false. The buyer went around and around with his local Post Office because he was sure it wasn't delivered. They found it in their back room on a shelf even though the substitute carrier had scanned it as being delivered. I did have one other case where I thought the same thing may have happened but, about two weeks after my shipment of chestnuts had been delivered, an absent-minded teenager happened to think that she should tell her mom that she had gotten a package and put it away in the closet. They were spoiled by then! LOL

Back to the topic of this discussion, I don't understand why you don't report this eBay user's ID here. At a minimum, can you at least tell us if you have left negative feedback for the seller? I don't think you want someone else to experience the same fate as you did. Please PM me the ID if you still don't want to post it here in the forum. Thanks in advance.

Mark Hall
11-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Guys I posted something very similar to this on the old Oasis forum about ebay scams and it turned out very bad. There was proof that sellers were bumping up the prices and I warned people not to buy and then I get mails from the mods saying stop it its Libel and they could get into trouble.

Things got blown out of poportion and in the end Oasis collapsed.

PM s are the best way to push this guys name around not on a public forum.


Even I would like to know who these sellers are to avoid making the same mistake and buying from them expecially the uk seller.

pitangadiego
11-16-2007, 02:30 PM
Harvey,

I haven't experienced a "confirmed delivery" that wasn't actually delivered. But the extra expense doesn't actually get you any real proof of delivery (and remember they are usually lea ving it in a mail box, on the street, where it is convenient for anyone to grab, as opposed to on the porch, or elsewhere). There is a different service, for a fee, which requires the recipients signature. Along the same line, when a signature is required, and I am not at home, they leave a slip to pick it up at the PO. In ten years, they have never been able to find the package on the first or second trip - always, always, always turns into a nightmare. That's why I much prefer UPS.

Tropicallvr
11-16-2007, 04:05 PM
Please pm me so I know this guy.
I would not want to deal with this kind either.
I didn't write down his name, so I forgot. Is there anyway to go back through "MY Ebay" so I can find the purchases I've made a year ago?
The plant I bought from him was a "rose of Jerico" which is basically a small desert fern from the middle east, that dries out and curls up into a ball and stays dormant for a long time.

harveyc
11-17-2007, 12:27 AM
Jon, USPS Flat Rate boxes have been fantastic for my business because the shipping cost is fantastic since it is $8.95 for any weight or zip code in the 8.5" x 11" x 5.5" box which I can easily get 10 pounds of my product in. It gets many customers to buy more than the 4 pound minimum. I've shipped about 2,000 orders in the past five years via USPS and not one package has every been lost. Orders to Hawaii took too long last year and one order a few years ago that was only going 200 miles took a week. That sort of problem is going to happen once in a while with any carrier. The worst part of USPS is the lack of "real" tracking. Also, I do all of my labels online and pay nothing for "Delivery Confirmation" as it is a free "bonus" for online USPS customers. For a very expensive product I would consider a signature service but most customers would find that a big nuisance and I'm certain it would cause more problems with spoiled product (some customers might not get the product for one or several days later) than it would solve, especially since I have not had any lost shipments in 2,000 or so shipments. I like UPS and FedEx for shipments sent to me, but they just can't compete for what I ship. Over half of my orders get shipped to the other side of the country and UPS costs would average more than double what I'm having to pay with USPS. That leaves more money in my customer's pockets to buy product!

Mark, I hear you on the libel issue, but that's for Jarred to worry about. I'd like the name posted and then Jarred could remove it once there was a complaint. But a PM would be fine. I've been an active trader in fairly expensive photo gear and the forum I've worked with has a feedback board where they do not allow negative feedback to be posted. However, some members started a Yahoo group to post the negative feedback to get around that. I don't think we'll have enough of a problem here to warrant anything like that.

Chironex
04-20-2008, 02:06 PM
I just joined this wonderful forum, so apologies for the dated post. I second the comments about the delivery receipt being a false comfort. In a 10 day span in late 2007, I had 5 items from 5 different eBay sellers supposedly delivered to my house. None of them were received and all that the USPS did was tell me that it showed as "delivered." Absolute nonsense - I am the only one living there so if they were delivered, I would have known. The sellers could offer no assistance either. One sleer was able to track my package as delivered in Texas. (I live in IL!!!) So, at least he refunded my money.
The bad part of this is that some of the items missing were one of a kind Chinese antiques! Learned my lesson the hard way!

Chironex
04-20-2008, 02:12 PM
I just checked out your site and appreciate the tips on growing bananas and lotuses. (or is it Loti) lol
Thanks!