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Greenie
10-29-2007, 03:46 PM
This "FHIA 18" is the 2nd to fruit from my project.It was planted in mid Feb. and has a height at about 10 feet.A very stout plant with a beautiful green color and very vigorous.I gave her plenty of food and she rewarded me with
"10" HANDS and 160+ fruit :08:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6346&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6533&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6532&size=1

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6531&size=1

momoese
10-29-2007, 04:19 PM
Holy Mackerel!! Nice bunch!

buzzwinder
10-29-2007, 05:00 PM
Nice, very nice, I am so zone jealous, Congrats !!!! :coldbanana:

Steve in France
10-29-2007, 05:42 PM
Great Job , best of luck for the harvest
Later
Steve

Paul7b
10-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Looking good there, we have 2 FHIA in pots that never got in the ground this year. We put everything that is in pots in the garage today, went down to 34 last night and calling for a little cooler tonight.

D_&_T
10-29-2007, 09:58 PM
very nice bunch of bananas


Dan & Tara

had killing frost last night low of 28F

Lagniappe
10-29-2007, 10:05 PM
Great pics Greenie !
Thanks for putting the measuring tape in the pic . We should all do that . It puts everything into perspective and lets one know exactly what he or she is looking at .
Very impressive !

valerie@flower
10-29-2007, 10:07 PM
;) Your Fhia she's a beauty:2767:

bencelest
10-29-2007, 10:36 PM
Awesome pictures!
I am greenie with envy.

MediaHound
10-29-2007, 11:00 PM
Wow thats wild, congrats!!

:basketbalhooplnaner

harveyc
10-30-2007, 12:02 AM
Beautiful!

You mention she is "stout" (reminder to self: don't use it as a term in describing wife) and I wonder if you plan to support the fruit/plant. That's got to be getting pretty heavy.

AnnaJW
10-30-2007, 02:41 AM
Absolutely beautiful!!!

tlturbo
10-30-2007, 07:49 AM
I think I will go cut down my FHIA-18 and burn it.

Terry

island cassie
10-30-2007, 05:18 PM
terrific-looking plant - congratulations!

Basjoofriend
10-30-2007, 05:42 PM
Hi,

congratulations for your great FHIA-18 bunch! Happy harvesting!

Unfortunately the climate in Germany is too cold for such big bunches, but small bunches of dwarf banana varietes are still possible.

But I am purchasing a house with a large yard in Brazil in Lucianópolis. Then it will be my second home. I will travel one or two times every year to Brazil. In the future I will move to Brazil.

I will then harvest in Brazil big bunches like you too.

Best wishes
Basjoofriend

NANAMAN
11-01-2007, 01:15 AM
great bunch!! I can't wait to see the next bunch of the project. Hope no one is afected by the tropical storm this week!

tlturbo
11-01-2007, 07:16 AM
Greenie - Just what is this "PROJECT" that you talk about? Somethiing special you are tryin? How's the snooking?

Terry

Greenie
11-01-2007, 08:04 PM
Thanks guys for the nice replies!:08:

tlturbo,
It is basically some specific pups that were planted and given the best care and food that they could get.

Here is an update of The Fhia -18 with the 2x4's and propped.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6551&size=1

tlturbo
11-02-2007, 07:35 AM
Well whatever special you are doing, IT WORKS - at least on the plants I've seen.

maesy
01-08-2008, 10:15 AM
Hi Greenie,

have you already tasted your bananas or are they still hanging outside?

I mostly grow Dwarf Orinoco and Dwarf Brazilian, but one of my favorite is a fhia 18 becouse of its fast growing speed.
It makes more leafes in a season than any other kinds I have.
I live in switzerland and have to dig them out for winter.
But only the look of this species makes my happy, and is worth the hard work.

How long did it take to mature?

Marcel

Greenie
01-09-2008, 02:11 AM
Marcel,
The bananas are almost there,I need to check my pic dates...... I will let you know!

AnnaJW
01-09-2008, 03:25 AM
Hi Greenie,

have you already tasted your bananas or are they still hanging outside?

I mostly grow Dwarf Orinoco and Dwarf Brazilian, but one of my favorite is a fhia 18 becouse of its fast growing speed.
It makes more leafes in a season than any other kinds I have.
I live in switzerland and have to dig them out for winter.
But only the look of this species makes my happy, and is worth the hard work.

How long did it take to mature?

Marcel


Marcel,
Bananas in Switzerland? Wonderful!!! :)

maesy
01-09-2008, 11:35 AM
Yea... thats realy wonderful!

They take up to four years to bloom, but its very exciting.
This year I should get my first bloom on my Dwarf Orinoco. Right now the pseudostem is close to 5'.

I grow lots of Palms and other exotic plants too.

:bananarow:

Marcel

pitangadiego
01-10-2008, 12:38 AM
Ate mine last month. Very nicely flavored banana. Nice size - approx same size as goldfinger. About 9 foot of trunk when it fruited.

harveyc
01-10-2008, 01:06 AM
Ate mine last month. Very nicely flavored banana. Nice size - approx same size as goldfinger. About 9 foot of trunk when it fruited.

I liked it too, if I'm not mistaken! ;)

Greenie
02-07-2008, 04:57 PM
here's an updated pic I shot today,still GREEN
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=7872&size=1

D_&_T
02-07-2008, 05:09 PM
Going to be alot of good eating there!!!

bencelest
02-07-2008, 08:37 PM
And you still have a lot of empty space in your yard.
I can imagine if that is my yard and I am in zone 10.

NANAMAN
02-07-2008, 08:52 PM
Congrats on the 18s,.... Please show us some more plants from the project! That bunch is hefty!!!

Going Bananas
08-25-2015, 12:56 AM
BUMP...

I thought Id resurrect this thread so I can post
progression pics of this variety
I inherited as potato sized corms in early June
from Momoese Mitchell.

BTW anyone else growing these?
http://www.bananas.org/f2/fhia-18-a-8892.html
http://www.bananas.org/f2/fhia18-218.html

Going Bananas
08-26-2015, 12:10 AM
Kudos to PRG for providing this info
on another thread RE FHIA-18
and other FHIA varieties in a study
done in Rwanda.

Herewith is the summary...
Agronomic performance. Varieties showed highly significant differences (P<0.001) for all variables in agronomic performance (Table 1). FHIA 18 was the first variety to reach flowering stage (255 days), followed by Poyo (291 day), Barabeshya (313 days) and FHIA 17 (331 day). SH 3436-9 and FHIA 23 were the latest to flower with 484 and 436 days, respectively.

Local check Barabeshya had the shortest fruit maturation time of 100 days only; at least one month earlier that the fruit maturation time of other varieties (Table 1). SH 3436-9, FHIA 23 and FHIA 21 took 134, 137 and 138 days, respectively. FHIA 25 had the longest fruit maturation time of 159 days. FHIA 18 and FHIA 17 had relatively long time to maturation with 151 and 152 days, respectively.

FHIA 18 and local check Barabeshya had the shortest cycle with 403 and 426 days from planting to harvest, respectively (Table 1). FHIA 23 and SH 3436-9 had the longest cycle with 572 and 564 days to harvest, respectively. Other varieties were in intermediate positions.

Girths of pseudo-stem at one meter level of FHIA 25, FHIA 23 and FHIA 17 were the most robust with 87.2, 81.6 and 80.6 cm, respectively. Local checks Poyo and Barabeshya were the least robust with 57.4 and 57.7 cm, respectively.

FHIA 21 and Barabeshya were the tallest varieties with 337 and 328 cm, respectively. Poyo and FHIA 18 were the shortest varieties with average height of 268 and 270 cm, respectively.

FHIA 17 and FHIA 25 yielded the heaviest bunches of 53.4 and 52.3kg, respectively (Table 1). They also had the highest number of hands (14 and 15) and fruits per bunch (266 and 268, respectively). Varieties FHIA 18, FHIA 21, FHIA 23 and SH 3640 had bunch weight similar to that of Poyo (about 25.5 kg). FHIA 23 and SH 3436-9 had smaller fruits, but higher number of fruits of the second hand (24.6 and 24.3, respectively).

FHIA 17, FHIA 25 and FHIA 18 had the highest annual yield (55.7, 52.6 and 46.5 t ha-1, respectively). They were twice more productive than Poyo and Barabeshya, both having bunch weight, close to that of FHIA 18 (Table 1). SH 3436-9, FHIA 23 and FHIA 21 had lowest yields (20.2, 24.3 and 26.1 t ha-1 per year, respectively). These were lower than the yield of the two local checks.

This is the background of the study
from the African Crop Science Journal...
Bioline International Official Site (site up-dated regularly) (http://www.bioline.org.br/request?cs08002)

Going Bananas
08-26-2015, 07:21 PM
Herewith are the pictures. This was received as a
potato sized corm/bulb only 2 1/2 months ago
from Momoese Mitchell.
A very vigorous grower with a new leaf every week.
This is supposed to have the shortest cycle to bloom
and the second shortest height of the FHIA line.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58658&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58658&ppuser=20832)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58659&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58659&ppuser=20832)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58660 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58659&ppuser=20832)

Going Bananas
08-27-2015, 11:23 AM
Edit...
FHIA18 genealogy...
http://www.bananas.org/f2/fhia-18-bonanza-20798.html

SH3640 genealogy...
http://www.bananas.org/f2/sh-3640-high-noon-20797.html

Although both varieties share the same mother(Prata Ana/Dw Brazilian),
the 18 shares the genes of the paternal grandmother of the 3640 via the SH3142.
The SH3142 being the father of 18 while
the SH3142 is the paternal grandmother of the 3640.

PR-Giants
08-27-2015, 02:24 PM
the 18 shares the genes of the paternal grandmother of the 3640

The FHIA-01 & 18 are full siblings.

And the FHIA-02, 17, & 23, have the same paternal grandparents as the SH-3640.

FHIA & SH (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=2424&ppuser=12081)
:woohoonaner:

Going Bananas
08-27-2015, 04:14 PM
Edit...
FHIA18 genealogy...
http://www.bananas.org/f2/fhia-18-bonanza-20798.html

SH3640 genealogy...
http://www.bananas.org/f2/sh-3640-high-noon-20797.html

Although both varieties share the same mother(Prata Ana/Dw Brazilian),
the 18 shares the genes of the
paternal grandmother of the 3640 via the SH3142.
The SH3142 being the father of 18 while
the SH3142 is the paternal grandmother of the 3640.

I edited the original link of this post because it didnt show the genealogy past the parents. The post above is re edited.
Anyways, I have both and will eventually post
progression pictures and eventually a taste test of both.

PR-Giants
08-27-2015, 06:02 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51178 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51178&ppuser=12081)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56398 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56398&ppuser=12081)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=56381 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=56381&ppuser=12081)

This probably explains the absence of Lowgate hybrids.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51596 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51596)

PR-Giants
08-27-2015, 06:32 PM
This is supposed to have the shortest cycle to bloom
and the second shortest height of the FHIA line.


In subtropical trials the FHIA-03 had the shortest cycle times and probably should be the first of the FHIA line to try.

GB do you have a SH-3640?

If so was the seller able to verify it, there's a lot BS-3640 inadvertently going around.

cincinnana
08-27-2015, 08:29 PM
Thanks ..for the great info.......:woohoonaner:

Going Bananas
08-28-2015, 12:17 AM
In subtropical trials the FHIA-03 had the shortest cycle times and probably should be the first of the FHIA line to try.

GB do you have a SH-3640?

If so was the seller able to verify it, there's a lot BS-3640 inadvertently going around.

PRG
If I had more room in my yard, I would very likely grow the sweetheart.
Momoese gave me 4 corms of 18s plus all the others(3PK, 3DB, 4Namwa)in my small yard,
it didnt leave me much for anything else.
I noticed not much has been written about this hybrid
like its siblings and cousins & I thought
I would coalesce them together.
BTW thank you for the links I provided
since you were the author of both the threads
and the excerpts from the study.
Very helpfull in pointing out the great parentage and genealogy
of a variety that is hardly mentioned nor pictured.

In fact I planted the 3640 on that
Smart Pot recommendation you provided.
Since Richard recommended a 45g minimum
to effectively grow naners, I purchased a 65g SmartPot($19).
That took alot of soil I tell you!..
6cf of steer manure and
2cf of fine wood chip mulch+2 bricks of dried coco fiber.
Boy Im telling you, the flies sure love that pot!
:bananas_b

Going Bananas
08-28-2015, 12:25 AM
PRG
http://www.bananas.org/f2/fhia-18-bonanza-20798.html
Since you authored this thread on the 18, did you ever grow it.
Would be great to know your experience in culturing this variety.
Thanks:bananas_b