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saltydad
09-09-2007, 01:33 AM
I have a Plumeria, var. unknown, white flower, that bloomed nicely 2 years ago inside during the winter, but not since. It has been outside on the patio all summer. I have tried to let it get a bit dry before watering to coax blooms, but no luck. It's around 6 ft. tall now. It's fed with a tropical fert. from Hardy Hibiscus, and this summer I started using Messenger. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Howard
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=5261&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5261&ppuser=1040)
Lagniappe
09-09-2007, 01:43 AM
Do you bring it in for the winter ?
I recieved two of these from my neihbor. Thier daughter is in school in Hawaii and she brought some home . They've been potted for a few weeks now and are just putting on leaves .
I don't know anything at all about plumeria and I suppose now I must learn .
saltydad
09-09-2007, 01:48 AM
Very definitely brought it in. I think they're hardy for Z9-10. Good....we'll learn together :0489:
edit "...must be protected below 40" from Plumeria site.
They are simply beautiful, and have an absolutely amazing aroma. I definitely want to get more into them, but I'm running out of plant space indoors over the winter!
Kylie2x
09-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Hey!!!
I have a few Plummies.. 3 named and 3 NOIDS.. they have all been started from cuttings.. so far so good no blooms this yr but big hopes for next yr...LOL Here is a site that lots of great info and pics..
Kylie
www.plumeria101.com
MediaHound
09-09-2007, 07:31 PM
We've had a dry spell here recently and there's blooms on just about all the plumerias.
Another good plumeria site is
http://www.mauiplumeriagardens.com/forums/
...and I really like plumerindr on eBay, from Thailand. Highly recommended!
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZplumerindr
Lagniappe
10-18-2007, 02:54 PM
I have four buds on one of my plumeria ! It just started to put on leaves about two weeks ago . I guess ,perhaps , I failed to plant it deep enough and that stressed it to bloom?
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6393&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6393)
Steve L
10-18-2007, 03:06 PM
I've used a Super Bloom type fert. for over 12 years on plumeria and it works well. Sometimes though, they are just stubborn and skip a year. This has been a so-so year for me. I plant mine in the ground in March and dig them up in late November or early December and store them in my garage. They grow and bloom much better when grown in the ground. However, last winter, my heater failed during a cold snap down to 24 and I had a lot of freeze damage to mine. I had to do a lot of trimming so this summer, my plumeria have been putting out new stems, not blooms.
Steve
valerie@flower
10-18-2007, 11:51 PM
:simpatica
Hi there, I have three different varieties and they will only bloom with enough heat from the sun and they like a dry spell before the next watering. If you want lots of leaves and blooms please do not over water. You can get one of those gadgets that checks the soil moisture if you are unsure how dry the soil is under the top layer. The fertilizer I use is fish emulsion and then a bloom booster once blooming starts. Good luck with your plumeria.
island cassie
10-19-2007, 05:05 PM
Hello all
I don't want to hijack your thread but I am having problems with rust on my plumeria. Next week I can go to the nearest town with halfway reasonable stores and search for something to use against it - perhaps a product meant for roses if I am lucky. In the meantime, I wondered if anybody had some home remedies or tips that would help me get rid of this pest. Just when the plants are looking really good, up pops the rust.
Cassie
island cassie
10-19-2007, 05:14 PM
I know, I know - I could order something by post - but all our mail is couriered in which means $$$$$. So I save that for life's essentials like new bananas and chocolate.
Rmplmnz
10-19-2007, 10:49 PM
Do not plant too deep as the roots only grow from the bottom...usually I barely put them in the ground (stake them for support).
Regards,
Chris
As earlier noted within the thread..plumeria101.com is a great site for info...:bungejumpnaner:
Rmplmnz
10-19-2007, 10:52 PM
Climate & drainage are key.....and keep the pot clean of all the other misc. weeds....
Lagniappe
10-20-2007, 01:47 AM
Climate & drainage are key.....and keep the pot clean of all the other misc. weeds....
Guilty...I planted mine in wormcastings and composted manure along with some sandy soil . The weeds love this mix and it was pre-loaded with weed seed.
Rmplmnz
10-20-2007, 08:49 AM
Ha ha...not trying to take a shot at the very nice pic posted:-)..that is a very nice deep green plumy!
Drainage is more key than organic matter.............
Do you have a worm bin?
Lagniappe
10-20-2007, 10:18 AM
Ha ha...not trying to take a shot at the very nice pic posted:-)..that is a very nice deep green plumy!
Drainage is more key than organic matter.............
Do you have a worm bin?
Thanks .
No , I don't have a bin . I have found , however , that a pile of manure will attract a very large population of worms in a short period of time . The neat thing about this method is that even if you pile the manure 2-3 ' high the worms will bring soil to the top of the pile . This may be only the large nightcrawlers doing this . They make deep burrows and drag edible material into them and push castings out . Anyway ,when they 've finished tilling all of this together , I use it for potting .
armymom
11-14-2007, 11:42 AM
Hello ,,I'm new on here, And haven't posted much,,But I love Plumy's and I have several colors.But Like some of the other gardeners,,Mine haven't bloomed yet.And one of the plants I have had for 3 years. It's in a pot. I'm in zone 8 and didn't know if I should plant in the ground, or keep in a pot.Pleas help me get my plant to bloom with any suggestions.I have a compost bin with mushroom compost..Will that hurt my plants..Let me know ..:islandsharkbanana:
Thanks a ton..
Linda
Steve L
11-14-2007, 12:03 PM
Linda,
If you plant the plumeria in the ground in your zone, you will have to dig it up each year at about this time of year. They suffer with temps below 40 and should not be subjected to temperatures below freezing at all. Most of mine are in the ground and go into my garage for the winter. This has worked for me for about 15 years. They grow much faster in the ground than in pots. I use a super bloom fertilizer from March to October and fertilize weekly the ones in pots and once a month the ones in the ground. They usually bloom continually during the summer.
Steve
valerie@flower
11-14-2007, 01:04 PM
Hi Linda, you can plan to keep you Plumeria in pots for easier transport in the fall instead of digging. These plants can get pretty big, I have seen them at 10ft and grown as trees where I live. Gradually transplant them into bigger pots as needed only during the growing season. Mushrooms are a fungi and Plumeria roots need to be on the dry side. Use that compost for something else in the garden. Water your Plumeria only when needed, they like to dry out between waterings. These guys like the sun and heat for blooming and bloom booster is a big help also. Plumeria has a lot a varieties out now and the smells are quite different (candy, lemon, jasmine) are popular. Some varieties of Fragapanni have no scent at all. Good luck with your plumys and I hope they bloom next year for you.
Valerie;)
Bananaman88
11-14-2007, 01:15 PM
Hello!
What is the name of the peachy colored plumeria with the pinkish edges? Do you ever have cuttings available of it?
Steve L
11-14-2007, 01:18 PM
Brent,
Is that question about the peach colored plumeria with the pink edges directed to me or anyone?
Steve
Lagniappe
11-14-2007, 01:22 PM
I can't speak for Brent but I'll take cuttings of it from anyone !:nanadrink:
Rmplmnz
11-14-2007, 05:00 PM
Thanks .
No , I don't have a bin . I have found , however , that a pile of manure will attract a very large population of worms in a short period of time . The neat thing about this method is that even if you pile the manure 2-3 ' high the worms will bring soil to the top of the pile . This may be only the large nightcrawlers doing this . They make deep burrows and drag edible material into them and push castings out . Anyway ,when they 've finished tilling all of this together , I use it for potting .
Cool...thanks for the tip...2 to 3 "feet" high..wow...have to try that.
Rmplmnz
11-14-2007, 05:05 PM
I can't speak for Brent but I'll take cuttings of it from anyone !:nanadrink:
What colors are you looking for?
Lagniappe
11-14-2007, 05:29 PM
I have a pink one and a white one . I want red and peach w/pink . I really want some of the more crazy fragrant ones .
The two that I have were gifts (tourist type packaging complete with ag stamp) from Hawaii and they were packaged as "pink" and "white" so I don't know the cultivar names .
BTW..I just weeded one of my plumy pots lol .
Rmplmnz
11-14-2007, 05:35 PM
I have a pink one and a white one . I want red and peach w/pink . I really want some of the more crazy fragrant ones .
The two that I have were gifts (tourist type packaging complete with ag stamp) from Hawaii and they were packaged as "pink" and "white" so I don't know the cultivar names .
BTW..I just weeded one of my plumy pots lol .
Good Job!
I can most likely mail you a red...peach with pink.....the color varies as the flower matures...PM with your mailing address and we can discuss this weekend.
Lagniappe
11-14-2007, 05:37 PM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=6672&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6672&ppuser=766):0489:
valerie@flower
11-14-2007, 11:50 PM
Does anyone here have a method as to how and what to do with a cutting. I get cuttings from my neighbors and they never root. Maybe I overwatered, or should not have used root tone. I have no luck with cuttings but my plants that I bought are doing great. Somehow I would like to start more to share.
valerie@flower
11-14-2007, 11:54 PM
Pete, you have a nice bloom ready to open!!!!!
Lagniappe
11-15-2007, 12:00 AM
Thanks , I feel silly geting so exited about one teency bloom but I'm a plumeria newbie .:2197:
armymom
11-15-2007, 12:03 AM
Steve
Thanks so much for the info..I have been wanting to plant in the ground,,But was afraid to..Now I think I might plant one of them and see if it does well here I have sandy lome and it get dry in the summer..Might be better if I add a little poting soil to the sand in the spring..Thanks a load..
Linda.
armymom
11-15-2007, 12:10 AM
Valerie..
I want to thank you also for the info..I have them all in pots and they are so much easier to handle for winter.But I'm going to plant one in the ground in the spring..Just to see how big it gets..and how hard it is to dig and put back in a pot..LOL.....I also have rooted the plumy's in dirt..I just stick a little root harmone at the bottom,,And stick the cutting in the dirt..But not to deep..And the cuttings I received..All survived..But this years cuttings are still young. Will have to wait to see what color they are hopefully in a year or so..I see you are from Cal. I loved San Diego..when I was there..Or Camp Pennilton.And the beaches,,georgious..
Linda.
valerie@flower
11-15-2007, 12:17 AM
Hey don't be shy we all have to start somewhere. Getting a bloom is exciting since these guys put out so many leaves. I am the same way with my little plants that are about 1 1/2ft, 4 blooms at the most at one time. When I see my neighbors plant that is 6ft with tons of blooms, I think to myself someday. Hers is about 10 years old and in the ground and her courtyard smells like paradise.
armymom
11-15-2007, 12:27 AM
I can't wait until mine bloom..The flowers are so pretty. I have some banana's and ginger..And none of them have bloomed for me yet..I guess the dirt might have something to do with it..But will keep trying..LOL.
valerie@flower
11-15-2007, 12:29 AM
Linda thank you for the advice on the cuttings. Next time I will not put them so deep, that could be why my two cuttings rotted.
inkcube
11-15-2007, 01:09 AM
here is my method for the last 10 or so years:
plants in 1 gal nursery cans with 1-2 extra holes, mix is 30% sand rest is a peat mix. i then plant the can in the ground & fertilize with bloom booster 3 out of 4 feedings - the 4th feeding is high N. i plant in my front yard which faces east and gets about 5-6 hrs of direct sun, my plants generally bloom all summer. in the fall i remove them when the temps start to dip below 37-38 for more than an hour. i just pull then pot and all and then remove 50% of the leaves. one of the biggest cause of plumeria failure is wet feet and the biggest cause of no flowers is too much N.
for cuttings dust the end with hormone plant about an inch deep - same mix as rooted plants. don't allow them to get too wet but make sure they don't shrivel.
BGreen
11-15-2007, 06:57 AM
Does anyone here have a method as to how and what to do with a cutting. I get cuttings from my neighbors and they never root. Maybe I overwatered, or should not have used root tone. I have no luck with cuttings but my plants that I bought are doing great. Somehow I would like to start more to share.
Hey Valerie,
I found this site helpful. http://www.plumeria101.com/cuttings101.html
I rooted a cutting using this method and had blooms the first year!
"Do not water again until the soil becomes dry.
On watering, when in doubt wait a week. "
Mine lives by that quote :)
island cassie
11-15-2007, 07:21 AM
We have had 2 very dry months and my plumeria is starting to bloom for the first time, in spite of the rust! I think it will be white but never mind - small steps forward!
valerie@flower
11-15-2007, 08:01 AM
Thanks Inkcube & Ben, I will try again with some more cuttings.
armymom
11-18-2007, 11:34 AM
hi Valerie,,your so welcome..I am not home this week.We are in NY visiting our son,,which has just returned from Iraq from his second tour..Will try to answer my mail as much as possible..And I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving..Will chat soon..
And thanks to all the others for the advice on getting the plumys to bloom..
Have a wonderful Holiday..
Garden Friends Linda
Bananaman88
11-20-2007, 12:39 PM
Sorry it took me so long to reply, Steve...things have been very busy here in the park recently. I believe that it was Rmplmnz who posted the thumbnails of the plumerias. I was intersted in that peachy/orange one. I'd love to get a cutting of that one or if anyone has one of the "rainbow" varieties. I currently have one that blooms white with a yellow center and a reddish/pink on that I got while in Hawaii.
Steve L
11-20-2007, 01:43 PM
I've got Intense Rainbow and Princess Anita Rosa. Both look very much like the peach colored one you commented on. I've also got Kaulanani, aka, Kaleinani which is similar to the others. I've also got an unnamed pinwheel and many other named varieties. I'll part with cuttings from any of my plumeria. They are way too big for me to handle. I might even give you a couple of trees.
Steve
Bananaman88
11-20-2007, 03:53 PM
Cuttings will do! I'll have trees of my own soon enough with the way these things grow! Talk to you in the spring?
saltydad
11-20-2007, 05:04 PM
Just wanted to thank everyone who has replied on this thread; I never expected so much action! Plumerias seem to really excite. I have moved my tropicals in for the winter. You can take a look in my gallery. Again, thanks!
Howard
saltydad
05-28-2008, 05:46 PM
I have blooms on my Plumeria just before I was going to move it outside for the season!!
url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9879]http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=9879&size=1[/url]http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=9882&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9882&ppuser=1040)
MediaHound
05-28-2008, 06:13 PM
Very nice!
Lagniappe
05-28-2008, 07:04 PM
That's awsome Howard !
Did you use metal halide ? What conditions were they in ?
Chironex
05-28-2008, 07:09 PM
How cool to find that so many of you are interested in Plumeria and other tropicals. Bananas are my passion, but I am also growing several plumeria from seeds. This site just keeps getting better and better all the time. Thanks again!!!
hydrojeff
05-28-2008, 07:57 PM
just sweet, i love plumies, like you said so fragrant and pretty,good luck on your trees!!!!
rhymechizel
05-29-2008, 12:19 AM
How do you guys store your plumerias for winter? Can you store them without light? Do they need to be potted?
I got four cuttings off ebay and I'm in the rooting process right now.
-DAN
Richard
05-29-2008, 01:44 AM
After a few overnight temps in the 50's F, just bring it inside. It will likely drop its leafs until spring. Here in San Diego, the winter temperatures rarely drop below freezing, so I just leave mine outside and they come back every spring like gangbusters.
lorax
05-29-2008, 07:29 AM
Cassie - This may be to little to late, but I've found that a mild solution of aspirin in alcohol (here we don't get isopropyl so much, but mentholated meths are cheap and common) sprayed onto the rust will kill it. Works well for my citrus trees, and plummies in our climate are anything but delicate....
hydrojeff
05-29-2008, 08:44 AM
in the winter i bring mine in a unheated, but insulated metal building when temps drop below 50f, they do get a little gro lite from my nanas but not much at all,like Richard said they loose all there leafs and go dormant till spring, then i put them back out.
hersirsmiley
05-29-2008, 10:59 AM
I too have a plumeria that has never flowered, i didn't know the thing about the plumerias hating wet feet until this year, now i wish i had joined this forum earlier. Its great to see the success people are having, mine has never bloomed so i've forgotten what color it is lol. we will see how things go this year its got some leaves but its still early for it to do much.
:aliennaner:
hydrojeff
05-29-2008, 11:13 AM
hersirsmiley, hit your plumies with some 10-50-10 superbloom liquid fert and watch them go crazy. full sun or they tend to get leggy.
hersirsmiley
05-29-2008, 11:20 AM
thanks i'll have to give that a shot.
:2688:
Bananaman88
05-29-2008, 12:14 PM
I bring my plumerias in the garage after temps start dropping below 50 and just leave them for the winter. As they dry out, they drop their leaves and water and light are unnecessary. Where I work, we prop them up against a greenhouse wall, barerooted, and do nothing to them all winter.
saltydad
05-29-2008, 01:14 PM
That's awsome Howard !
Did you use metal halide ? What conditions were they in ?
The only lighting is from the southeastern-facing bay window in the living room you see in the picture. Last year it didn't bloom. This year I have added SuperThrive to the HVH fertilizer and Messenger I use for my hibiscus, alamanda, bougainvillea, etc.
lorax
05-29-2008, 04:36 PM
Wow, you guys do so much more work than I do.... I just have to spray occasionally to make sure that the bugs stay off.
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