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harveyc
09-06-2007, 02:13 PM
A friend of mine from Mexico has a question about an ID. Sorry, no photo available. Assistance appreciated! Harvey

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Yesterday i got a new Musa , first i tought it was M.
vellutina but when i planted it next to a M.ornata it
didn't look like the ornamental.
The plant is a lot sturdier like a real banana ,
flower was pink when i got the plant , was growing in
50% shade , now that it is in full sun the same flower
turned bronze...
Any idea what variety this can be ?

Luc

Gabe15
09-06-2007, 02:59 PM
More info is needed, such as is the infloresence erect or pendent, and what the fruit was like (color, size, seeded, seedless...)

harveyc
09-07-2007, 11:21 AM
Infloresence is erect, he tells me. He will also try to send a photo...

harveyc
09-11-2007, 12:11 AM
Okay, I now have a couple of photos of my friend's banana. Gabe, I'd appreciate your help on this. Thanks, Harvey

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=5355&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5355&ppuser=775)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=5354&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5354&ppuser=775)

MediaHound
09-11-2007, 12:21 AM
I'll take a stab with African Red but its somewhat of a guess...

Coccinea came to mind as well at first but I'm not sure...

harveyc
09-11-2007, 12:44 AM
Thanks, Jarred. I have no idea since I've been concentrating on fruiting ones that might work in my zone 9.

Luc, when you drop by to check out this thread just go ahead and sign up. Membership includes a group therapy program which primarily suggests you collect more bananas to get over any issues you may be having. LOL

Harvey

Gabe15
09-11-2007, 01:10 AM
definetly not coccinea. its some type of Rhodochlamys, but still hard to say exactly without seeing the fruit color as many can have that bract color but differ in fruit color, but im thinking M. laterita.

harveyc
09-11-2007, 01:16 AM
Thanks, Gabe!

Luc and I have a buddy on the wet side of the Big Island if you get over there and need to get shown around. PM me if you want details.

MediaHound
09-11-2007, 08:12 AM
Is not Laterita more red than this?

MediaHound
09-11-2007, 08:13 AM
Well then again African Red is too...
:p

tropicalkid
09-11-2007, 12:30 PM
I agree with Gabe leaning towards Musa laterita. Look at the yellow tip in the flower, but at the same time it's kinda small and skinny for a laterita though. Looks as skinny as a Musa suratti, but certainly not that one.

Carlos(tropicalkid in NC)

Gabe15
09-11-2007, 02:41 PM
M. laterita is extremely variable in size depending on growing conditions. I have seen everything from about 1ft and an inch across at the base to over 9ft and 5in across at the base.

harveyc
09-11-2007, 03:28 PM
M. laterita is extremely variable in size depending on growing conditions. I have seen everything from about 1ft and an inch across at the base to over 9ft and 5in across at the base.

Gabe, you can't post a comment like that and tease us without a photo...I want to see this!!!

Harvey

Gabe15
09-12-2007, 05:20 AM
These are examples of two extremes Ive seen, most however are in between and average about 3-6ft, there is however a dwarf variety that will flower extremely short even in the best conditions.

These are very large and it may be hard to judge scale, but they are about 8-9ft pseudostems and have very large fruit bunches, you can see one hiding in there. These are conservatory grown at the Denver Botanic Gardens.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=5388&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5388)

This is one of the smallest I have seen, the pseudostem being about 1ft. This was at the Hawaii Tropical Botanic Gardens on the Big Island.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=5387&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5387)