Need help ID Mystery Nanner

[HMelendez]

I need some help ID and/or opinion what type of banana variety might be....Please forum members "chime in"....help a forum fellow.....


Thanks in advance.....


I bought it in 08/22/2014 as "supposed" to be a PR Maricongo Plantain.... (follow the forum thread: PR Maricongo Plantain Flowering?).....You can also see more pictures, details at my profile (my albums): Mystery Nanner....


Plant height is approx. 7 1/2 feet tall and produced a 9 hands bunch.....


05/09/2015


06/25/2015


08/26/2015-08/27/2015






09/12/2015


09/21/2015




10/02/2015

[Narnia]

I'm probably wrong - it looks like a gold finger.

[HMelendez]

Thank you Narnia and I appreciate your opinion....I was looking/comparing the FHIA-01 (Musa Goldfinger) to my mystery nanner and seems that the flower bud (FHIA-01) looks different to what I got....

[venturabananas]

It looks like a FHIA hybrid to me, too. Most likely (most widely available), if you are in the continental US, is the Agristarts off-type Goldfinger. The male bud of that one doesn't match the one shown in the photo of FHIA-01 you posted. FHIA-18 is another possibility.

[PR-Giants]

The seller had brought them back from Puerto Rico thinking they were either Maricongo or the Maricongo clones Common Harton, Harton Selection Chago, or Corozal Selection 25. It probably didn't come from Agristarts and I doubt that Agristarts mislabeled Goldfinger is an off-type.

Originally Posted by venturabananas

It looks like a FHIA hybrid to me, too. Most likely (most widely available), if you are in the continental US, is the Agristarts off-type Goldfinger. The male bud of that one doesn't match the one shown in the photo of FHIA-01 you posted. FHIA-18 is another possibility.

Originally Posted by vitin6039

I am trying to grow large Maricongo variety from Puerto Rico here in Central Texas. I do a lot of gardening but never bananas and I just came from P.R and brought with me this babies in the pictures. They are 3 Maricongo variety and two Hawaiian bananas. I just plated then yesterday two in a container and 3 on the ground. I may need some help to do the winter part of this project so feel free to send suggestion at will. Ohhh I also have a Basjoo ML-02 but I think that one should be OK here in Texas.

[venturabananas]

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

…I doubt that Agristarts mislabeled Goldfinger is an off-type.

Keith, you've certainly seen a heck of a lot more varieties than I have. And I haven't seen the Agristarts Goldfinger in person. Based on what you've seen, what variety do you think the banana is that Agristarts is selling as Goldfinger?

[HMelendez]

Thank you venturabananas and PR-Giants (Keith) for "chime in"......I appreciated guys.....


As Keith explained, I got the plant (mystery nanner) from forum member/seller (Vitin6039) who "says" he brought them back from Puerto Rico thinking there were PR Maricongo Plantains....I also doubt it that came from Agristarts...


I am posting new/more pictures of the mystery nanner in case it might help....

[HMelendez]

An update pictures of the Mystery Nanner....I still don't have an idea what it is!.....any suggestions will be appreciated....

Thank you for seeing the pictures.....

Pictures taken on November 11, 2015

[Mark Dragt]

Well you certainly took the right pictures. I wish I could be more help. Would it give more clues to the members to give a tast report on the ripe fruit? What's the smoking gun to tell a plantain from a banana?

[venturabananas]

Do you have any photos of when the bud was just emerging or had just emerged? These photos show some spread petiole wings, which makes me think it could be something more Cavendishy.

[HMelendez]

Thank you Mark and Veturabananas for "chime in" guys......

Mark, I will follow in a taste report when the banana bunch it is ready to be harvest.....
Venturabananas, here is a couple of more pictures of the bud emerging or the bud just emerged....

09/13/215


09/14/2015





09/15/2015




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09/18/2015




09/21/2015

[PR-Giants]

Do you have any photos of the bud while the bracts were lifting?

Originally Posted by HMelendez

Thank you Mark and Veturabananas for "chime in" guys......

Mark, I will follow in a taste report when the banana bunch it is ready to be harvest.....
Venturabananas, here is a couple of more pictures of the bud emerging or the bud just emerged....

09/13/215


09/14/2015





09/15/2015




09/16/2015



09/18/2015




09/21/2015

[HMelendez]

Thank you Keith (PR-Giants) for "chime in"....


Do you mean like this pictures?.....

[PR-Giants]

Can you post this photo in a higher resolution and another from a few days later.

Originally Posted by HMelendez

[HMelendez]

Keith (PR-Giants);


Here is a couple of pictures in higher resolution....hopefully it helps!...


Thank you Keith!.....

September 23, 2015




September 28, 2015



October 4, 2015

[PR-Giants]

Thanks, those photos made it easy to eliminate it from being a goldfinger.

In this earlier post you are comparing a new bud to a bud about 100 days older and if you read the image below, you would expect them to be different because they change as they mature. When comparing two buds they should both be at a similar stage of development.

Originally Posted by HMelendez

Thank you Narnia and I appreciate your opinion....I was looking/comparing the FHIA-01 (Musa Goldfinger) to my mystery nanner and seems that the flower bud (FHIA-01) looks different to what I got....

[venturabananas]

Well, not a Cavendish -- the newly emerged bud is wrong for that and the petiole wings aren't spread enough. I'm back to thinking it is some FHIA (or other) tetraploid hybrid. Maybe something like SH-3640.

[Gabe15]

Originally Posted by HMelendez

Am I correct to notice that the dried bracts and male flowers were removed by hand from the rachis in your series of photos, or did they fall off naturally? Just asking because it's important for ID to know how those behave.

[HMelendez]

I appreciated Mr. Gabe15 for "chime in!".....



You are right! The dried bracts and male flowers were removed by hand from the rachis. There are more pictures of The Mystery Nanner on "My Albums" (pictures/folder - Mystery Nanner) if that helps...



Thank you again in advance!.....

[PR-Giants]

Hector that's a great looking bunch.

Were the 2 photos that Gabe's referring to taken on the same day?

You have such an amazing collection of bananas.

The Verdin you are growing is a stellar cultivar. I harvested a huge bunch yesterday and eating some as I type.

Originally Posted by HMelendez

I appreciated Mr. Gabe15 for "chime in!".....



You are right! The dried bracts and male flowers were removed by hand from the rachis. There are more pictures of The Mystery Nanner on "My Albums" (pictures/folder - Mystery Nanner) if that helps...



Thank you again in advance!.....