View Full Version : What is the usual pstem height of a Veinte Cohol?
siege2050
07-04-2015, 05:17 PM
I have a couple of 2 foot pups that I am going to try to overwinter this year in containers, with more pups on the way it looks like. I was only a couple of weeks from plant out time this last spring and the main pstem died on me indoors. With only about 4 months left of warm weather it would not be good most likely to plant them in the ground now. But judging how quickly my original TC plant got to 4 feet, I am guessing these will be much bigger by then. What height do the pstems on a Veinte Cohol get, and how about in a container for those growing them that way. As is almost always the case, online sources say so many feet this, so many feet that, but it is usually counting, or not counting leaves so causes some confusion. I was going to overwinter in my greenhouse but after all I have read about them being so sensitive to cold, even for those growing them in warmer places, I am not sure now. Would it help to wrap the stems in there with burlap? I usually get about zone 9 lows in there in winter. Of course I am sure I can overwinter the corms, but kinda defeats the purpose with no fruit from a supposedly easy fruiter. I might have to try them indoors again.
cincinnana
07-04-2015, 06:10 PM
I have a couple of 2 foot pups that I am going to try to overwinter this year in containers, with more pups on the way it looks like. I was only a couple of weeks from plant out time this last spring and the main pstem died on me indoors. With only about 4 months left of warm weather it would not be good most likely to plant them in the ground now. But judging how quickly my original TC plant got to 4 feet, I am guessing these will be much bigger by then. What height do the pstems on a Veinte Cohol get, and how about in a container for those growing them that way. As is almost always the case, online sources say so many feet this, so many feet that, but it is usually counting, or not counting leaves so causes some confusion. I was going to overwinter in my greenhouse but after all I have read about them being so sensitive to cold, even for those growing them in warmer places, I am not sure now. Would it help to wrap the stems in there with burlap? I usually get about zone 9 lows in there in winter. Of course I am sure I can overwinter the corms, but kinda defeats the purpose with no fruit from a supposedly easy fruiter. I might have to try them indoors again.
FOR me 4.5 feet stem height with a nice spread of 6
plus feet.....no flower. Great foliage plant.
Mine were in the basement@65degrees for six+ months ......good bounce back at warmer temps.
Rapid growth with warm temps but as soon as it cooled.....all good growth stopped.
This plant stops growing at 65 degrees in my opinion. Just like all the other ones that you and I have.
Parent plant was in Florida was 2x larger and just as healthy and fruited .
cincinnana
07-08-2015, 09:29 PM
I have a couple of 2 foot pups that I am going to try to overwinter this year in containers, with more pups on the way it looks like. I was only a couple of weeks from plant out time this last spring and the main pstem died on me indoors. With only about 4 months left of warm weather it would not be good most likely to plant them in the ground now. But judging how quickly my original TC plant got to 4 feet, I am guessing these will be much bigger by then. What height do the pstems on a Veinte Cohol get, and how about in a container for those growing them that way. As is almost always the case, online sources say so many feet this, so many feet that, but it is usually counting, or not counting leaves so causes some confusion. I was going to overwinter in my greenhouse but after all I have read about them being so sensitive to cold, even for those growing them in warmer places, I am not sure now. Would it help to wrap the stems in there with burlap? I usually get about zone 9 lows in there in winter. Of course I am sure I can overwinter the corms, but kinda defeats the purpose with no fruit from a supposedly easy fruiter. I might have to try them indoors again.
What have you decided?
siege2050
07-09-2015, 12:02 AM
I am thinking of trying one under the house while still in the pot, laying on its side with leaves removed, as I am guessing they dont do well bare root. And one in the greenhouse in a pot, laying on its side under frost cloth for extra warmth, dormant as well. It stays pretty warm under there with Christmas lights. I overwintered some very tall cannas as an experiment by laying them down that way against the ground a few times without dieback when it was expected to get close to 32F in there. I think the air would be too cold if it were standing up, and the pstems would probably collapse. It looks like I am having a couple more pups forming so I will take some as backups in the house while small. Its too bad more bananas wont overwinter like Orinoco bare root.
cincinnana
07-09-2015, 06:34 AM
I am thinking of trying one under the house while still in the pot, laying on its side with leaves removed, as I am guessing they dont do well bare root. And one in the greenhouse in a pot, laying on its side under frost cloth for extra warmth, dormant as well. It stays pretty warm under there with Christmas lights. I overwintered some very tall cannas as an experiment by laying them down that way against the ground a few times without dieback when it was expected to get close to 32F in there. I think the air would be too cold if it were standing up, and the pstems would probably collapse. It looks like I am having a couple more pups forming so I will take some as backups in the house while small. Its too bad more bananas wont overwinter like Orinoco bare root.
By accident this is what happens to a plant when you lay it on its side with the leaves on when actively growing.
The pstem bends.
I have not done this with all the leaves off and the plant in a dormant state though, as you would.
This looks like another experiment to do this winter:)
This could be an issue for you .
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siege2050
07-09-2015, 11:08 AM
Yeah I have seen that happen lol, I am hoping the dormant state will keep that from happening. I have a plant room but its already stuffed full of other bananas, etc. in winter.
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