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Yuri Barros
03-29-2015, 10:37 AM
I found this picture............this is about 40km from my house................

I live in São Paulo City...........Brazil..............and this picture is from the Atlantic Forest....................called Serra do Mar...............

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57555&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57555&ppuser=11331)

I don´t know the species..............but I made some search and I found that they may be Feral species..........but unidentified species..........

I´m not personally convinced that this is a Feral species................

Along the stream one can see that there are more Bananas at the Forest Borders..........

Snarkie
03-29-2015, 05:39 PM
That's a nice shot.

Richard
03-31-2015, 06:44 PM
... I´m not personally convinced that this is a Feral species ...

Very unlikely it is a species, but rather a hybrid. If the bananas are seedless (edible), then it is definitely a hybrid.

It is certainly Feral, bananas originated in the vicinity of Burma long before people were there. Sometime after 1526 edible bananas were brought to the Americas for cultivation.

Yuri Barros
04-01-2015, 05:34 PM
Thank You Richard........

Here are some pictures of the Bunch.......

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57561&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57561)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57562&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57562&ppuser=11331)

I don´t know what is this species........???

Richard
04-01-2015, 08:26 PM
Looks like a seeded variety, although I've never grown them. Someone here will most likely recognize the flower color.

What settlements are either upstream from that area or in a 15-25 km radius from there?

Yuri Barros
04-01-2015, 09:03 PM
Yes...........it seems that have seeds..................of unknown species at least for me...............???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2Gqe6O4Ow

Lau
04-01-2015, 09:20 PM
Maybe it is Musa ornata. It looks like the picture in the wikipedia.

Richard
04-01-2015, 10:14 PM
Maybe it is Musa ornata. It looks like the picture in the wikipedia.

Could be ... someone here might narrow it down to a specific cultivar.

Back to the topic of native vs. feral: if it is M. ornata then certainly it is feral. Here is the GRIN species record for the plant:
Musa ornata information from NPGS/GRIN (http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?24729)

Yuri Barros
04-02-2015, 03:41 AM
Thank You guys.............it seems that it is Musa ornata............

And Richard you are right...........

druss
04-05-2015, 12:02 AM
I have a friend who collects fruits and seeds from these forests i have asked him to take some pics of any bananas he comes across.

Yuri Barros
04-11-2015, 08:50 PM
I found an Article about invasive plants of Brazil..............

There are two species of Musa listed...........

One is Musa ornata............and the other is Musa rosacea...........

I also found few pictures of Musa rosacea........from Salto Morato...........here in Brazil.........

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57683 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57562&ppuser=11331)

Source : https://conexaosul2010.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/rppn-salto-morato/

I was thinking that the first pictures identified as Musa ornata could be Musa rosacea.............???

The small Flag Leave is specially intresting............