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Worm_Farmer
03-26-2015, 03:55 PM
all of my fruit trees have what appears to be some sort of white fungus or mold growing on it they are all doing really bad and dying off. if you know what I should do please help or if you know what this stuff is please help I am in Florida.
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pmurphy
03-26-2015, 04:46 PM
Hard to tell from the pictures but it appears to lichen - Lichen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichen)
".....You are more likely to find lichens on unhealthy trees, but lichens are not the cause of the trees' deterioration. Lichens are related to mold and moss and grow well on trees suffering from other issues, because the plants are not healthy enough to fight them off. Lichens do little damage other than blocking some sunlight from getting to the tree, but you can remove them for aesthetic reasons."
kubali
03-26-2015, 04:55 PM
[QUOTE=Worm_Farmer;257792]all of my fruit trees have what appears to be some sort of white fungus or mold growing on it they are all doing really bad and dying off. if you know what I should do please help or if you know what this stuff is please help I am in Florida.
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looks like Foliose lichen and coricolous lichens
it for sure is a kind of lichen and copper spray with take care of it.
Worm_Farmer
03-26-2015, 05:16 PM
Alright, I will get copper spray this weekend! Do you need more pic? Let me know, if like to get to the root cause. Thank you!
kubali
03-27-2015, 08:34 AM
I am no expert on lichen but I will say this, I have never known them to kill a tree or even hurt it in any way.so you might look for something else. What kind of tree are they. Looks like pear?Although the pear tree is an adaptable grower, some conditions are simply too hot or too cold for the pear tree. Warm winters can damage and, over time, kill a pear tree by preventing it from entering its dormant phase and leaving it weakened and open to attack from environmental and microbiological factors. Pear trees require between 41 and 50 consecutive days below 45 degrees Fahrenheit for an adequate dormant period. Grow a pear between U.S. Department of Agriculture hardiness zones 5 through 8 to prevent climate factors from killing your pear tree.
cincinnana
03-27-2015, 10:20 AM
Just tossing this in the mix .
Lichens are generally harmless and are epiphytic.
I have lichens on some of the older trees and rocks in the yard which add visual interest.....but Wormfarmer your fruit trees have an issue.
I see you still have tags on them you might be able to return them.
Landscape CSI: Do lichens indicate impending tree death? - Science News - redOrbit (http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113293708/landscape-csi-do-lichens-indicate-impending-tree-death-120714/)
pmurphy
03-27-2015, 11:07 AM
If indeed they are pear, I don't know about Florida but here we have issues with 'pear rust', a blight that can be caused by the nearby presence of juniper trees......if you have juniper trees in the area you are pretty much out of luck (we have ornamental pears, planted by the city, along the boulevard and every few years they have to be replaced - I keep asking them to plant something else)
Anyway, this rust causes orange welts/blisters to appear on the leaves. If the tree is young it is often not strong enough to survive for more than a couple of years. If the tree is older is can survive but is definitely weaker - the blisters can cover the leaves and rob the tree of its ability to photosynthesize properly
Gymnosporangium sabinae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnosporangium_sabinae)
There's some kind of disease that attacks prunus trees up north but I don't know if it happens down here nor can I recall what it is. Can you take a branch to the extension service? They'd know for sure (or should) what's causing the decline and death. Perhaps a local master gardener could help?
cincinnana
03-27-2015, 02:16 PM
Alright, I will get copper spray this weekend! Do you need more pic? Let me know, if like to get to the root cause. Thank you!
Post some photos of the leaves and bud tips or wounds that could give a better idea of what the problem is.
Check out your symptoms and compare them to this link. Or use the keyword Fire blight and check out photos associated with it.
.Fire blight Fact Sheet (http://nysipm.cornell.edu/factsheets/treefruit/diseases/fb/fb.asp)
There's some kind of disease that attacks prunus trees up north but I don't know if it happens down here nor can I recall what it is. Can you take a branch to the extension service? They'd know for sure (or should) what's causing the decline and death. Perhaps a local master gardener could help?
There is a good chance you're thinking Fire blight.
I currently have it on a mature Redbud, unfortunately the cost to treat a tree professionally usually exceeds the trees value and I will eventually cut it down .
I think someone called it something with black in the name but the damage does seem very similar so I'll defer to you. It didn't kill immediately and pruning affected branches helped; nobody ever mentioned spraying. (Hey, not my trees so it wasn't my issue.)
cincinnana
03-27-2015, 02:52 PM
I think someone called it something with black in the name but the damage does seem very similar so I'll defer to you. It didn't kill immediately and pruning affected branches helped; nobody ever mentioned spraying. (Hey, not my trees so it wasn't my issue.)Black Knot Fact Sheet (http://nysipm.cornell.edu/factsheets/treefruit/diseases/bk/bk.asp):)
That sounds more like it! Nasty looking. I had an apricot that developed a huge wound in her trunk that oozed amber like material which eventually set. I assumed she'd die (which would have been fine because I hate apricots and grew it for the EX who decided he disliked them also) but instead she got taller and stronger yielding massive bushels of fruit.
Worm_Farmer
03-27-2015, 09:03 PM
I will get more pictures soon! one of them is a low chill pear, low chill cherry and low chill peach. My low chill apple died this year. It also seems to be getting my blue berrys. I feel like all my trees are going to die. I'll get more pic. Typically all the new growth looks good.
Oh, dear, not the blueberries! I have a potted Sunshine that's actually producing fruit so I hope you find out what's wrong and post it. Gardening in FL is definitely a challenge.
Worm_Farmer
03-30-2015, 12:12 PM
It took awhile. I really hate trying to get details out of a Cell Phone Camera.
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kubali
03-30-2015, 02:16 PM
It took awhile. I really hate trying to get details out of a Cell Phone Camera.
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you really need to keep the base of your trees weed free. The weeds could be choking you tree to death, or starving it.
you really need to keep the base of your trees weed free. The weeds could be choking you tree to death, or starving it.
Yes, says the highly lazy queen of mulch who loves it because there's less lawn to mow and no damaging plants by cutting near them, but that's not the main issue from what I see. I'm totally clueless as to what is causing the problem but really hope someone diagnoses it for you. It may be too late for your poor plants; I hope not.
Dangermouse01
03-30-2015, 03:39 PM
Do you weed whack around the base of your trees (or have a lawn service that does)?
Send those photos and description of trees & damage to our AG dept and see what they suggest.
DM
Send those photos and description of trees & damage to our AG dept and see what they suggest.
DMYes!
Worm_Farmer
03-30-2015, 05:37 PM
I do have a Landscaper. But he does not pull my weeds in the plant beds. I need someone to come over a clean up all this over grown problem I am having. I do need new mulch to cover the area around the trees again. I don't have a truck access anymore so it makes things MUCH harder.
I will try to find more info on the local AG department. Someone told me they would come out for free and try to figure this out. I am most worried about loosing my peach! It was my first "Hardwood" fruit tree, iv had it for 5 - 7 years now. It has a great looking trunk. :)
Thank you everyone!
Worm_Farmer
03-30-2015, 05:40 PM
Around the trunks I do have black drain pipe to help with the weed whackers. But the trees are so big now I am looking into getting used tires to put around the base then filler the tire with mulch and manure.
But your trees would appreciate mulch much more! Lay at least 8 layers of newspaper down (cardboard if you have it) to kill the weeds/grass to the drip edge then add some of that red mulch that's on sale around here. (You can put manure under the paper/cardboard if you want or make tea and feed them all year.) Am I doing that? Not yet. In my dreams I'm hoping to find a tree service that chips in this county; not likely since they don't charge dumping fees so nobody chips. Urgh...
Dangermouse01
03-31-2015, 04:32 PM
But your trees would appreciate mulch much more! Lay at least 8 layers of newspaper down (cardboard if you have it) to kill the weeds/grass to the drip edge then add some of that red mulch that's on sale around here. (You can put manure under the paper/cardboard if you want or make tea and feed them all year.) Am I doing that? Not yet. In my dreams I'm hoping to find a tree service that chips in this county; not likely since they don't charge dumping fees so nobody chips. Urgh...
Kat2, you can pick up free mulch from the Brevard County Waste Management at the Mockingbird Mulching Facility, 3600 South Street, Titusville (also have a place in Cocoa and another in Melbourne). It is from the yard trash that they pick up (take your chances), probably have to shovel it yourself, and pretty sure they require you to prove that you have a tarp to cover the load and to use it.
Yard Waste and Mulching (http://www.brevardcounty.us/SolidWaste/YardWasteMulching)
DM
Kat2, you can pick up free mulch from the Brevard County Waste Management at the Mockingbird Mulching Facility, 3600 South Street, Titusville (also have a place in Cocoa and another in Melbourne). It is from the yard trash that they pick up (take your chances), probably have to shovel it yourself, and pretty sure they require you to prove that you have a tarp to cover the load and to use it.
Yard Waste and Mulching (http://www.brevardcounty.us/SolidWaste/YardWasteMulching)
DMYes about the tarp but they load it for you here. It's decent stuff. I've picked up several truckfuls and plan to use a lot more. However, I'm also looking for woodchips and this is nearly compost. I need to be near Mockingbird this week so may stop by and see if they have anything less processed. I despise that red mulch...
Worm_Farmer
03-31-2015, 06:06 PM
Yes about the tarp but they load it for you here. It's decent stuff. I've picked up several truckfuls and plan to use a lot more. However, I'm also looking for woodchips and this is nearly compost. I need to be near Mockingbird this week so may stop by and see if they have anything less processed. I despise that red mulch...
They have this stuff called Fines, its usually finely ground grass and leaf. It breaks down really fast. If I could do it right I would put a think layer of fines, manure, then mulch.
They have this stuff called Fines, its usually finely ground grass and leaf. It breaks down really fast. If I could do it right I would put a think layer of fines, manure, then mulch.Sounds like a good plan; I think your trees would appreciate it. My use for woodchips is to essentially eliminate my front yard. I have some big trees so it's fairly shady and the lawn is a mix of "stuff" not really grass; I was planning to set plants between the trees. The woodchips would help eliminate the need for weeding; I hate weeding and consider mowing a real waste of time.
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