View Full Version : how big of a container do I need to grow a VC in to get fruit.
Jamie p
03-02-2015, 10:44 PM
Hello, I live in Missouri and I'm restricted to growing bananas in containers and I thought everyone might have an idea on the size of container I might need to grow Veinte Cohol
sunfish
03-03-2015, 12:02 AM
15gal. minimum
cincinnana
03-03-2015, 05:02 AM
Hello, I live in Missouri and I'm restricted to growing bananas in containers and I thought everyone might have an idea on the size of container I might need to grow Veinte Cohol
Choose a bigger one that is in the middle/first row .
The blue container is a half+ of a 55 gal drum for scale.
Shown are possible sizes that will work.....but the bigger the better .... 45 gal preferred.
A Viente in a container is a nice short managable plant.
I have a Viente also and I hope this is the year I will get a bloom.:08:
My issue is once my growing season gets rolling.....it's over.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3896/15032407102_d9dcfa7a8f_c.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/110357684@N02/15032407102)
Jamie p
03-03-2015, 11:00 AM
Choose a bigger one that is in the middle/first row .
The blue container is a half+ of a 55 gal drum for scale.
Shown are possible sizes that will work.....but the bigger the better .... 45 gal preferred.
A Viente in a container is a nice short managable plant.
I have a Viente also and I hope this is the year I will get a bloom.:08:
My issue is once my growing season gets rolling.....it's over.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3896/15032407102_d9dcfa7a8f_c.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/110357684@N02/15032407102) your bananas look great. I have a 24 by 24 by 28 inch deep box that I'm going to plant it in. Hopefully that will work. I have a heated greenhouse that I will wheel it in during the winter . By the way that is a really nice AE AE !
sunfish
03-03-2015, 04:27 PM
Get an 80 gal much better
scottu
03-03-2015, 06:32 PM
To get something like good fruit, the bigger the better obviously! 15 gallon pot at the very least. However if your in zone 6 or better, i would consider a bigger and better pot for the winter and in the growing season to put her in the ground. Winter is for getting by, surviving. in the growing season you gotta get all you can
80 gal would be sweet!
Jamie p
03-04-2015, 10:06 PM
Thank you everyone for the replies. I'm going to go as big as I can on the container.
jeffaroo
03-27-2015, 08:51 PM
Those buckets with rope handles work great as well if you take a drill bit to the bottom
Jamie p
03-27-2015, 08:56 PM
I've got 15 feet to the ceiling in my greenhouse , so I'm going to throw caution to the wind and try to grow a Gros Michel ! It's little right now but I hope I can pull it off. They get very tall but I'm going to hope for the best.
cincinnana
03-27-2015, 09:05 PM
Get an 80 gal much better
Sorry I missed this post......
A container this big is NOT needed to flower a plant....https://www.flickr.com/photos/110357684@N02/15032407102
I believe if I had said an 80 gal container the previous poster would have said a 120 gal container would be better......not so....
Jamie p
03-27-2015, 09:09 PM
Hey thank you cincinnana!!
PR-Giants
03-28-2015, 02:18 PM
I've got 15 feet to the ceiling in my greenhouse , so I'm going to throw caution to the wind and try to grow a Gros Michel ! It's little right now but I hope I can pull it off. They get very tall but I'm going to hope for the best.
Maybe you should try growing a Dwarf Gros Michel.
PR-Giants
03-28-2015, 02:41 PM
Sorry I missed this post......
A container this big is NOT needed to flower a plant....https://www.flickr.com/photos/110357684@N02/15032407102
I believe if I had said an 80 gal container the previous poster would have said a 120 gal container would be better......not so....
I only use 80 gal containers to flower plants, because it flowers sooner and produces huge bunches.
Surface area seems to be the key factor, I use 8" depth with 45" by 60" sides.
These were grown in 80 gal containers.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=52571 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=52571)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51721 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51721)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57187 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57187)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57129 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57129)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57136 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57136)
Jamie p
03-28-2015, 07:10 PM
I have to admit I had no idea there was a dwarf Gros Michel ! I will definitely have to consider giving that a try. That's also interesting about the shallowness of your containers .
cincinnana
03-28-2015, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=PR-Giants;257859]I only use 80 gal containers to flower plants, because it flowers sooner and produces huge bunches.
Awesome..... so you have a whole farm for bananas in containers... I did a look down from your IP and I think your fibbing..
Your place looks awesome....
Are you able to post pics of your plants in the containers.. from a distance so I may get a perspective of the size of your plants in the containers?
Your plants are my benchmark (pipe dream) in the Ohio river valley.
I was wondering how big a plant (as big as yours) can you put in a container that size.
An 80 gal container is CRAY in my zone........except maybe for Daffodils.:ha:
Richard
03-28-2015, 10:01 PM
I think all bananas in plastic pots are doomed to transplanting ...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57553 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57552)
I wrote a bit about pot size here: Banana Cultivation In Non-Tropical Climates (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/guide-fruiting-banana.html)
PR-Giants
03-29-2015, 10:33 AM
Awesome..... so you have a whole farm for bananas in containers... I think your fibbing..
sorry bout dat...4got bout nitpickers.
When I'm using a container for a complete growing cycle I only use 80 gal containers to flower plants, because it flowers sooner and produces huge bunches.
These 12.5ft³ containers are only in my experimental area.... not on my whole farm.
PR-Giants
03-29-2015, 10:52 AM
I have to admit I had no idea there was a dwarf Gros Michel ! I will definitely have to consider giving that a try. That's also interesting about the shallowness of your containers .
If you can't find a dwarf Gros Michel locally, I can add you to the list and send a message when I have extra pups.
Jamie p
03-29-2015, 01:55 PM
Thank you PR! I had kind of a hard time finding the regular Gros Michel. That would be great!
jeffaroo
03-31-2015, 08:11 PM
I think all bananas in plastic pots are doomed to transplanting ...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57553 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57552)
I wrote a bit about pot size here: Banana Cultivation In Non-Tropical Climates (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/guide-fruiting-banana.html)
Fruit Fuel strikes again !!! :ha:
jeffaroo
03-31-2015, 08:14 PM
I'd like to see these 80 gal pots. I went into my local hydroponic shop and the biggest they can order is a 40 unless your talking about those fabric smart pots, those can go all the way up to 400 gallons
Then again I use 100 gallon metal horse troughs for my bamboo
PR-Giants
04-03-2015, 09:23 AM
Fruit Fuel strikes again !!! :ha:
First... Richards Sweetheart is misidentified and clearly is not the real Sweetheart.
Regardless, this is what you get with a few inches of compost on top instead of using Fruit Fuel.
This plant is growing on top of a road carved into the side of a mountain by a D6.
This is a real FHIA-3 Sweetheart with her pup, the 5 gallon bucket behind the pup is there for size reference.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51355 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51355)
I think all bananas in plastic pots are doomed to transplanting ...
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57553 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57552)
I wrote a bit about pot size here: Banana Cultivation In Non-Tropical Climates (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/guide-fruiting-banana.html)
Richard
04-03-2015, 07:29 PM
I'd like to see these 80 gal pots. I went into my local hydroponic shop ...
In the agricultural industry we refer to them as hydroponic boutique shops. Try a real farm/ag supplier in your county instead.
PR-Giants
04-05-2015, 06:15 PM
The bucket is in the same place in both photos.
This is a real FHIA-3 Sweetheart with her pup, the 5 gallon bucket behind the pup is there for size reference.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51355 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51355)
FHIA-3 Sweetheart
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51594 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51594)
cincinnana
04-05-2015, 06:19 PM
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Dude ....your like the Chris Angel of Puerto Rico
Or maybe Juan Copperfield.
Still waiting for the photo of the 80 gal container though..
:08:
Or small swimming pool..
Or green turtle sandbox...
We know what a 5 gal bucket looks like.:lurk:
PR-Giants
04-05-2015, 06:32 PM
Still waiting for the photo of the 80 gal container.....
:08:
Or small swimming pool..
Or green turtle sandbox...
We know what a 5 gal bucket looks like.:lurk:
You're just being silly, it's not that difficult to visualize an 8" deep rectangular pot with 45" & 60" sides.:waving:
8" x 45" x 60" = 12.5ft³ = 80 gallons.
cincinnana
04-05-2015, 06:36 PM
You're just being silly, it's not that difficult to visualize an 8" deep rectangular pot with 45" & 60" sides.:waving:
8" x 45" x 60" = 12.5ft³ = 80 gallons.
Great math .....but not the pic WE were looking for...
jeffaroo
04-05-2015, 07:23 PM
Sounds like a green turtle sandbox to me
PR-Giants
04-06-2015, 07:47 AM
Sounds like a green turtle sandbox to me
That sounds like an accurate description.
Here's 2 Blind Lizard Snakes playing in their sandbox.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=52741 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=52741)
Here's a different sandbox with 2 temporary plywood dividers.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57202 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57202&ppuser=12081)
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