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sups
11-11-2014, 07:35 AM
Hi
I got my 2yr old old potted musa(not sure about the variety,could be rajapuri) indoor for winter. it has grown tall and it barely has any space to grow vertically.I thought i had read somewhere that you can cut the pseudo stem to half its length to reduce its height. Do you think this is safe or will it kill the plant?
I do not think it has as yet developed any flower stalk as the stem width is quite narrow.
it will remain in the living room behind a sunny window(OK that is only if the window gets any sun at all!)

from the sea
11-11-2014, 11:42 AM
If the flower is not in the stem you should be ok

scottu
11-11-2014, 06:47 PM
Hey Sups, just don't water more than once a week and remember you are only keeping it alive til spring, it will look like it's dying til it acclimates and then a little better. any growth at all is a good sign. If it pups you are golden. Also you could add a small light for some extra energy.

bananimal
11-11-2014, 08:15 PM
By cutting the p-stem do you mean cutting off all the leaves? I would tilt the plant to 45 degrees or more to keep all the leaves intact. Prop it up at the point where the pstem does not bend very much.

Do this after watering and excess has drained from the pot.:08:

If you do it please post pics ---- this is interesting.

bananimal
11-11-2014, 08:19 PM
Hey Sups, just don't water more than once a week and remember you are only keeping it alive til spring, it will look like it's dying til it acclimates and then a little better. any growth at all is a good sign. If it pups you are golden. Also you could add a small light for some extra energy.

Hey Scott --- what's your weather feel like right now?

scottu
11-11-2014, 09:31 PM
Dan, 9 o'clock Tuesday night its 55 degrees and that's the low for tonight, way high for normal and for what is coming.

Lancelot
11-11-2014, 09:32 PM
My Black Thai was over 8 ft. tall, so I cut the stem down to about 1/2. Instead of cutting it straight off, I carefully cut each ring of the pseudostem removing each leaf, until I got to the internal leaf that was presently shooting up. The leaf is now to the point of almost ready to unroll, and hopes that the plant will have moderate growth through the winter. But if it does keep pushing out leaves, I've go about 5 ft. of ceiling clearance now.

hybridpower
11-12-2014, 12:18 AM
Last month I cut a nearly 8 foot basjoo down to about 2 feet, split the pups of and moved it, as of today, it's grown about 2 more feet, and grown 4 very large leaves (interestingly, the leaves are the same size on the now short tree, as they were on it when it was tall).

If it's healthy now, I think you'll be fine.

cincinnana
11-12-2014, 04:41 AM
Hi
I got my 2yr old old potted musa(not sure about the variety,could be rajapuri) indoor for winter. it has grown tall and it barely has any space to grow vertically.I thought i had read somewhere that you can cut the pseudo stem to half its length to reduce its height. Do you think this is safe or will it kill the plant?
I do not think it has as yet developed any flower stalk as the stem width is quite narrow.
it will remain in the living room behind a sunny window(OK that is only if the window gets any sun at all!)

Another forum member amantedelenguaje does this with success .
Visit their photo gallery for some great photos.
There is even a pic with with a plant fruiting......right out of the cut p-stem.

Many forum members will cut their stems very short to fit shipping boxes when they sell/trade their plants.
Banana plants will recover very fast when ACTIVELY growing .

sups
11-12-2014, 09:51 AM
Another forum member amantedelenguaje does this with success .
Visit their photo gallery for some great photos.
There is even a pic with with a plant fruiting......right out of the cut p-stem.

Many forum members will cut their stems very short to fit shipping boxes when they sell/trade their plants.
Banana plants will recover very fast when ACTIVELY growing .
Thanks Cincinanana, for the great information...i tried the search enjine to look up the above recommended users gallery couldn't get there(uh I must be a computer nerd!!:waving:) could you post a link?

cincinnana
11-14-2014, 08:22 PM
Thanks Cincinanana, for the great information...i tried the search enjine to look up the above recommended users gallery couldn't get there(uh I must be a computer nerd!!:waving:) could you post a link?
My photo .....you can cut them pretty low ,this is acceptable and common.
This plant will most likely put up five or six new pups.
This is also a good way to FORCE your plant into producing new plants.

sups
11-17-2014, 12:39 PM
My photo .....you can cut them pretty low ,this is acceptable and common.
This plant will most likely put up five or six new pups.
This is also a good way to FORCE your plant into producing new plants.
Plant shown Orinoco.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15571761066_d7fc8e6841_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pJ2m45)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pJ2m45) by Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/people/110357684@N02/), on Flickr
Cincinana
WOW!!! that is a BOLD LOW CUT!!

cincinnana
11-17-2014, 09:03 PM
Cincinana
WOW!!! that is a BOLD LOW CUT!!

It looks worse than what it really is.

Here are the pics from the other members gallery.
You may click on them and you can be taken to their gallery and see more pics.
As you can see the leaves will push right up from the stem.....just like nothing happened.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=55638&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=55638&ppuser=11752)

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=52296&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=52296&ppuser=11752)

sups
11-18-2014, 04:06 PM
amazing!

Nathan1023
02-09-2015, 03:13 AM
I know this is old, but I've done this and it works fine. I just posted photos of it in my gallery.

cincinnana
02-09-2015, 06:59 PM
I know this is old, but I've done this and it works fine. I just posted photos of it in my gallery.

Thanks...Posting this helps a lot of banana growers in the north.
This will demonstrate how much they/we/I can trim their plants to make them fit in their homes


.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57475&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57475)

PR-Giants
02-09-2015, 08:30 PM
If you're growing it as an ornamental then maybe it's somewhat successful, but if you're trying to produce an edible fruit then it's a failure.

What's bad about posts like this is that someone might read it and think if I do everything just right maybe it'll work, but it doesn't and it won't. Just because you don't realize the damage you're doing doesn't mean it's not happening.


Best thing to do is to bend the leaves down, this does very little damage and it will continue to function.



Thanks...Posting this helps a lot of banana growers in the north.
This will demonstrate how much they/we/I can trim their plants to make them fit in their homes


.http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=57475&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=57475)

cincinnana
02-09-2015, 09:14 PM
If you're growing it as an ornamental then maybe it's somewhat successful, but if you're trying to produce an edible fruit then it's a failure.

What's bad about posts like this is that someone might read it and think if I do everything just right maybe it'll work, but it doesn't and it won't. Just because you don't realize the damage you're doing doesn't mean it's not happening.


Best thing to do is to bend the leaves down, this does very little damage and it will continue to function.

Lol....do you really think I / we can bend a 14 foot plant to 7.5 feet..
Remember....you are in the Carribean and I am in the Northern States.
We do what we have to do.

PR-Giants
02-09-2015, 09:51 PM
Please post a photo.of a 14 foot plant which you are overwintering in your basement....

What's a basement? :waving:

PR-Giants
02-09-2015, 10:22 PM
Lol....do you really think I / we can bend a 14 foot plant to 7.5 feet..
Remember....you are in the Carribean and I am in the Northern States.
We do what we have to do.

And while you are at it please post a photo in your zone 6 home on how you overwinter a 16 foot plant in a house with 7.5 foot ceilings.

a house with 7.5 foot ceilings, that's nuts!!! :ha::ha:

cincinnana
02-10-2015, 05:50 AM
All kidding aside:)
This is what will happen when you try to tilt the plant so it fits in your home.
This shot was created by myself by laying the container on its side .
Phototropism at its finest.
Phototropism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phototropism)
This is after 72 hours.

The stem will bend.The more you tip the container the more bend you will get.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50043&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50043)

PR-Giants
02-10-2015, 10:59 AM
All kidding aside:)
This is what will happen when you try to tilt the plant so it fits in your home.
This shot was created by myself by laying the container on its side .
Phototropism at its finest.
Phototropism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phototropism)
This is after 72 hours.

The stem will bend.The more you tip the container the more bend you will get.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=50043&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=50043)

All kidding aside:)

This bad/misleading/uninformed BS is interesting, but what really will happen when you try to tilt the plant to/near that degree so it fits in your home is....

The plant stops pushing new leaves and the process of rotting/dying begins, aka Lower Ohioan Simulated Variegation.

Lower Ohioan Simulated Variegation can also be achieved by a liberal application of the high quality broad-spectrum systemic variegaticide foliar spray developed by Monsanto.


Caveat... :goteam:
This can actually be used successfully if your plant has already drop/shot/produced a grouping/flower/bloom/bunch/raceme. :waving:

cincinnana
02-10-2015, 05:57 PM
All kidding aside:)

This bad/misleading/uninformed BS is interesting, but what really will happen when you try to tilt the plant to/near that degree so it fits in your home is....

The plant stops pushing new leaves and the process of rotting/dying begins, aka Lower Ohioan Simulated Variegation.

Lower Ohioan Simulated Variegation can also be achieved by a liberal application of the high quality broad-spectrum systemic variegaticide foliar spray developed by Monsanto.


Caveat... :goteam:
This can actually be used successfully if your plant has already drop/shot/produced a grouping/flower/bloom/bunch/raceme. :waving:


Wow........I never saw that fantastic comment coming...I am glad you agree.
As with your last comment I have no idea what you are talking about.



This is another link which you might be thinking about.
.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitropism
Never once had the problem that you described with either of the plants.
In fact the 45 degree angle plant below was re potted as is and has lived happily ever after.

Here is the photo of a plant of mine that is at a 45 degree angle.
Seems to be ok.

I think this year I am going to try a Topsy Turvy hanging planter 55 gallon drum size.:woohoonaner:

I looked for the foliar spray you spoke about on Amazon and could not find it ...you must be pulling my leg.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=49951&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49951)

cincinnana
04-01-2015, 04:56 PM
Cincinana
WOW!!! that is a BOLD LOW CUT!!
Before and after photos.

Fall photo.
This corm is from a spent Orinoco, I planted it to see what would happen to it in the basement over the winter in less than ideal conditions.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/14974638074_2c06b4cd7d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oPfWc5)Orinoco corm (https://flic.kr/p/oPfWc5) by Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/people/110357684@N02/), on Flickr

Spring photo.
One new pup so far, maybe more once it warms up and spring kicks in
I forgot to add information from last post, this plant had flowered and I am not expecting a a shoot from the main stem.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7612/17003183125_45254a4892_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rUvKXK)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rUvKXK) by Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/people/110357684@N02/), on Flickr

Nathan1023
06-01-2015, 09:38 AM
Just fyi, I've cut stalks twice, once above the bottom leaves(first photo), and once below them (second photo). The cut above the bottom leaves didn't seem to phase the plant, but the cut below all of the leaves seems to have killed it.

Nathan1023
06-01-2015, 09:39 AM
(second photo)

Nathan1023
06-01-2015, 09:41 AM
The second photo won't post for some reason, but it's just a bare stump that's now turning black.

sups
06-01-2015, 01:08 PM
Just fyi, I've cut stalks twice, once above the bottom leaves(first photo), and once below them (second photo). The cut above the bottom leaves didn't seem to phase the plant, but the cut below all of the leaves seems to have killed it.

wow that is pretty low.....I too cut off the stem pretty low and then the first leaf that popped out broke under is own weight, but the following made it thru

cincinnana
06-02-2015, 08:51 AM
The second photo won't post for some reason, but it's just a bare stump that's now turning black.

If you still have the plant give it some time....there is a good chance pups are developing.
Cutting the stem like that will usaully induce your plant to pup.
I will take a follow up photo of the plant from my previous post, it has a few more pups.
Many forum members will also cut the plant just as short to save on shipping charges to one another. This is a normal practice and the plant will soon recover.

cincinnana
06-20-2015, 01:55 PM
Before and after photos.

Fall photo.
This corm is from a spent Orinoco, I planted it to see what would happen to it in the basement over the winter in less than ideal conditions.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/14974638074_2c06b4cd7d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oPfWc5)Orinoco corm (https://flic.kr/p/oPfWc5) by Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/people/110357684@N02/), on Flickr

Spring photo.
One new pup so far, maybe more once it warms up and spring kicks in
I forgot to add information from last post, this plant had flowered and I am not expecting a a shoot from the main stem.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7612/17003183125_45254a4892_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rUvKXK)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rUvKXK) by Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/people/110357684@N02/), on Flickr

Update: Same plant seven pups

.https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/402/18803609520_a19a3466a1_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uDBq19)
by
Hostafarian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/110357684@N02/), on Flickr