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ifnull
09-13-2014, 04:01 PM
My Dwarf Namwahs have been getting taller over the last 2 years. In the past they have been on average 7ft tall when they flowered. This year, one of my 9 month old plants is already 14.5' tall.

Does anyone know what could have caused this and what affect this may have on my fruit this year?


This year:
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10684124_528276237316030_1360690566_n.jpg

Last year just before flowering:
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/outbound-distilleryimage3/t0.0-17/OBPTH/3de766bc05e111e3ab6822000a1f96e8_7.jpg

Height at flowering:
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/10012458_1384676278440316_1227345434_n.jpg

crazy banana
09-13-2014, 11:00 PM
It is normal that the second or third generation follower pups are taller than the original plant.
When you planted your original plant, a lot of energy went into establishing a good sized corm which now sends out the nice size follower pups.

boffcheck
09-14-2014, 05:18 AM
wow thats impressive and very interesting :)

ifnull
09-14-2014, 01:26 PM
It is normal that the second or third generation follower pups are taller than the original plant.
When you planted your original plant, a lot of energy went into establishing a good sized corm which now sends out the nice size follower pups.

Thanks. That makes a lot of sense.

sandy0225
09-14-2014, 07:56 PM
wow yours really does look like my namwah, but mine isn't getting taller this year. Probably because it's in a very large pot.

siege2050
09-17-2014, 03:33 AM
I bought a fake ice cream, just so I could get a Namwah (Probably tall), everybody was out lol. Hope mine look that good later.

ifnull
10-14-2014, 11:05 PM
This thing is continuing to grow but still no flag leaf. Just thought I would share some more photos.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/14912787633_d982e3e5ef.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3927/15346946177_14b8e98c22.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5613/15346813038_85835bde60.jpg

ifnull
10-18-2014, 06:16 PM
Another update. The base is now at 80in and has begun to split.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5608/15380876339_ee0d47e455.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pra1F6)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pra1F6) by ifnull (https://www.flickr.com/people/89987219@N00/), on Flickr

crazy banana
10-18-2014, 11:21 PM
I would not look at the base for a possible inflorescence. The bunching of the leaves on the top of your earlier pictures are a better indicator for a soon to be expected bloom.
Looking good!

ifnull
12-28-2014, 08:44 PM
Update.

Flower pushed through about a week ago. It is huge. Maybe twice as big as last year.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7484/15511099894_2b1c8a3fd2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCErAN)

ifnull
01-31-2015, 05:49 PM
Looks like I will be doubling last year's yield with 13 hands.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8655/16413316115_cb3999e320_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1ox3T)

crazy banana
02-01-2015, 12:13 AM
Looks like I will be doubling last year's yield with 13 hands.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8655/16413316115_cb3999e320_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1ox3T)

Great job.. Congratulations.

PR-Giants
02-01-2015, 08:41 AM
Wow, 80" that's more than a 25" diameter... Amazing.

Can you take a wider photo of the base.

Thanks for the great posts.

BTW, normally measurements are taken at the height of 1 meter.

Another update. The base is now at 80in and has begun to split.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5608/15380876339_ee0d47e455.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pra1F6)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pra1F6) by ifnull (https://www.flickr.com/people/89987219@N00/), on Flickr

ifnull
02-02-2015, 12:01 AM
So the measurement should be taken when the plant reached 1 meter and taken at the base correct?

Wow, 80" that's more than a 25" diameter... Amazing.

Can you take a wider photo of the base.

Thanks for the great posts.

BTW, normally measurements are taken at the height of 1 meter.

sunfish
02-02-2015, 12:32 AM
So the measurement should be taken when the plant reached 1 meter and taken at the base correct?

Measure at one meter now

ifnull
02-07-2015, 06:10 PM
Cinched tight at 1 meter I measured it in at 31 1/4 inches.

Measure at one meter now

ifnull
02-07-2015, 06:10 PM
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7328/16467551625_9b3dc6c0f8_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r6bvnT)

ifnull
02-28-2015, 06:23 PM
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/15911391034_58535fffc4_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qf33db)

ifnull
03-20-2015, 10:06 PM
https://scontent-lax.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/l/t51.2885-15/10576187_1427289270903529_1196405387_n.jpg

crazy banana
03-20-2015, 10:17 PM
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/15911391034_58535fffc4_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qf33db)

This picture is what I am calling "eye candy".
Nice. Namwah (dwarf and tall) are usually very prolific, but it seems that this year quite a few people are lining up for the title "King/Queen of Namwah". You are one of them.
Do not forget to weigh the bunch when ready and to count the fingers.

ifnull
04-11-2015, 05:42 PM
More photo updates from this weekend.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7671/17114085735_9a3c50e5d2.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/s5jarH)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7602/16926526930_a21421c090.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rMJSKd)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8711/16927899169_50196f1f8c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rMRUEv)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7599/17112558292_5d8488ff0d.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/s5bkou)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8811/16926527920_01e4b4e029.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rMJT3h)

venturabananas
04-12-2015, 11:05 AM
It's not Dwarf Namwah. It's tall Namwah ("fake Ice Cream"). The height, plant shape (not broad enough at the top of the p-stem), and the clean rachis distinguish it from Dwarf Namwah.

ifnull
04-12-2015, 03:52 PM
It's not Dwarf Namwah. It's tall Namwah ("fake Ice Cream"). The height, plant shape (not broad enough at the top of the p-stem), and the clean rachis distinguish it from Dwarf Namwah.

This may be a dumb question but, is it possible they mutated? They didn't start growing to this size until shortly after I planted the tall Namwah on the other side of the yard.

venturabananas
04-12-2015, 04:43 PM
This may be a dumb question but, is it possible they mutated? They didn't start growing to this size until shortly after I planted the tall Namwah on the other side of the yard.

It's not a dumb question. Many of varieties of bananas are somatic mutants. As I understand it, all the varieties within a subgroup (e.g., all Cavendish varieties) are somatic mutants of an original variety. As a specific example, Williams was a somatic mutant that showed up in a field of Dwarf Cavendish.

That said, height is not a definitive trait of dwarfism. Tall varieties can fruit at short heights under certain conditions (e.g., poor conditions or first fruiting on a mat). And, some non-dwarf varieties are short, e.g., Rose and some other AA genome cultivars.

Here are a couple of photos of real Dwarf Namwah plants. Note how stout the p-stem is and how there is very little space between the leaves.

http://webebananas.com/bpix/BP910-56.jpg
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=51650&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=51650&si=dwarf namwah&what=allfields)

Dplaza
04-12-2015, 08:21 PM
Wow, thank you for posting these pics. I also wondered if I had dwarf namwah or not, but now I definitely can tell I have the tall variety. Mine have a lot more spacing between the leaves and not as stout of a trunk.

ifnull
05-31-2015, 06:06 PM
Finally harvested today. Here are the results...

Height: 36in
Weight: 72lb

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/488/18296661586_bf9c1df7f2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/tSPb3w)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/395/17702460983_177610dbd7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/sYiJUx)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/318/18135292878_dd6413ca38_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/tCy7Kq)

Here is a video of the harvesting
https://instagram.com/p/3XUwiSS6O-/

venturabananas
05-31-2015, 10:21 PM
Nice bunch!

Lawler
08-06-2015, 04:07 PM
Would love for opinions.... Is this a regular (tall) Namwah? ....or Dw. Nam as I have understood? (started w/ 2 pups last summer).

For what it's worth, my son, in the pic is not even a 1/2" shy of 4 ft. tall and the fitted concrete border blocks/bricks are 12" long.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58460&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58460&ppuser=16822)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58459&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58459&ppuser=16822)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58458&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58458&ppuser=16822)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=58457&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=58457&ppuser=16822)