View Full Version : What are the Negatives for growing the SH-3640?
PR-Giants
07-18-2014, 08:56 AM
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servatusprime
07-18-2014, 10:39 AM
Your wife might not like how it tastes!!:D (Taste report forthcoming)
mm4birds
07-18-2014, 04:17 PM
Needs a real name like Sunset Supreme or something (It's all in the advertising like Ice cream). :nanadrink:
robguz24
07-18-2014, 07:06 PM
It has a real name. It's High Noon. Not very appealing (to me anyway).
crazy banana
07-18-2014, 07:38 PM
It has a real name. It's High Noon. Not very appealing (to me anyway).
Is it the name or the banana itself which is not very appealing to you? ;)
I have just planted my SH3640. It was on my wish list for a long time because I heard so many positive things about the taste.
Hopefully it will be cold hardy enough for my climate as it has the AAAB genetics.
Worm_Farmer
07-19-2014, 10:01 AM
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE! Will ask you for a pup
Nicolas Naranja
07-19-2014, 12:06 PM
We should try to establish names for the unnamed numbered varieties. Goldfinger Mona Lisa and Sweetheart are great. FHIA-18 is Bananza. FHIA 17 and 23 are unnamed. High Noon is a terrible name. It should be exotic. Maybe name it after its parent. I am thinking like Annamaria, Michelle, or Campo Azul, Puerto Alto.
As far as drawbacks it is slightly more susceptible than Fhia 1 or Fhia 18 to black sigatoka
BrianOC714
07-19-2014, 01:05 PM
To me, the negative is that it is a very hard plant to find, especially in California.
PR-Giants
07-19-2014, 01:49 PM
We should try to establish names for the unnamed numbered varieties. Goldfinger Mona Lisa and Sweetheart are great. FHIA-18 is Bananza. FHIA 17 and 23 are unnamed. High Noon is a terrible name. It should be exotic. Maybe name it after its parent. I am thinking like Annamaria, Michelle, or Campo Azul, Puerto Alto.
As far as drawbacks it is slightly more susceptible than Fhia 1 or Fhia 18 to black sigatoka
The "His Airness (http://www.bing.com/search?q=His+Airness&FORM=HDRSC1)" seems like it might be worth growing.
FHIA23 AAAA, which comes close to meeting the difficult and very high standards of the export trades.
PR-Giants
07-19-2014, 01:58 PM
To me, the negative is that it is a very hard plant to find, especially in California.
After you grow it, you probably won't want it. :ha::ha::ha:
It does make an excellent cooking banana.
servatusprime
07-19-2014, 03:32 PM
After you grow it, you probably won't want it. :ha::ha::ha:
It does make an excellent cooking banana.
That's kinda what I'm starting to think.
PR-Giants
07-19-2014, 04:58 PM
As far as drawbacks it is slightly more susceptible than Fhia 1 or Fhia 18 to black sigatoka
Where did you get this info?
My experience has shown it to be very susceptible to black Sigatoka, which also concurs with the published studies I've read. The last had it 4 times as bad as FHIA-01 and twice as bad as FHIA-18.
Nicolas Naranja
07-19-2014, 07:08 PM
Where did you get this info?
My experience has shown it to be very susceptible to black Sigatoka, which also concurs with the published studies I've read. The last had it 4 times as bad as FHIA-01 and twice as bad as FHIA-18.
I havent actually quantitatively looked at it but I have all 3 in close proximity along with gran nain dwarf super plantain and dwarf pr plantain. Ive never had sigatoka on fhia 1 or fhia 18. Sh3640 has less sigatoka than the cavendish, plantain, and hua moa that are around it. Quite a bit less than the dwarf brazillian two plants away too.
BrianOC714
07-19-2014, 09:39 PM
After you grow it, you probably won't want it. :ha::ha::ha:
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I hope that is not the case.
servatusprime
07-19-2014, 10:19 PM
I hope that is not the case.
You win some you loose some. That's why I think taste reports are very helpful. If there were better resources I could have skipped a couple of varieties rather than spend plenty of time and energy growing something that wasn't as great as I mistakenly hoped it would be.
crazy banana
07-19-2014, 11:26 PM
You win some you loose some. That's why I think taste reports are very helpful. If there were better resources I could have skipped a couple of varieties rather than spend plenty of time and energy growing something that wasn't as great as I mistakenly hoped it would be.
I agree while looking forward to taste this variety one day....
Sorry to mention the good old Blue Java debate: sometimes it seems to be worth while to try fruits from several different bunches of the same variety before making a final decision.
When I started my "banana" growing, I wanted the "real deal" Blue Java - IceCream" .The taste and quality of the first bunch I harvested of that mat was "so/so" with some nice fruit but others to better run to the store for a banana instead ;) My latest bunch is totally different, not that it taste like vanilla ice cream, but each and every fruit was fantastic. Growing conditions, weather, fertilizer and water regimen will influence the taste from bunch to bunch.
If I remember it right, several members who have grown the SH3640 were disappointed of their first bunches, but now they have stated that their mats are definitely keepers.
Nicolas Naranja
07-19-2014, 11:51 PM
You win some you loose some. That's why I think taste reports are very helpful. If there were better resources I could have skipped a couple of varieties rather than spend plenty of time and energy growing something that wasn't as great as I mistakenly hoped it would be.
I think where it grows matters somewhat too. The wine people call it terroir. I had a Goldfinger in Homestead and I thought it was awful. The ones I have had grown around Lake Okeechobee have been good. I hear various reports about people not liking the taste of Namwah, but I've never had a bad one. There are some definite seasonal variations in taste. I don't think the bananas that I harvest in February taste as good as the ones that I harvest in September. If I was a food chemist, I could probably do some scientific work to verify that, but I am not.
servatusprime
07-20-2014, 10:14 AM
I think where it grows matters somewhat too. The wine people call it terroir. I had a Goldfinger in Homestead and I thought it was awful. The ones I have had grown around Lake Okeechobee have been good. I hear various reports about people not liking the taste of Namwah, but I've never had a bad one. There are some definite seasonal variations in taste. I don't think the bananas that I harvest in February taste as good as the ones that I harvest in September. If I was a food chemist, I could probably do some scientific work to verify that, but I am not.
Totally agree. I'll keep my SH3640 for at least one more harvest. I can only change the terrior so much by what I add to the soil, but the season might make a difference. However I wouldn't think it would be astronomical.
PR-Giants
07-20-2014, 11:18 AM
Totally agree. I'll keep my SH3640 for at least one more harvest. I can only change the terrior so much by what I add to the soil, but the season might make a difference. However I wouldn't think it would be astronomical.
High humidity makes a big difference, and that's a quick and easy experiment to perform postharvest.
A comparative Evaluation of Postharvest Quality Attributes of Two Banana (Musa spp) Varieties as Affected by Preharvest Production Conditions | Ambuko | Journal of Agricultural Science (http://ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jas/article/view/24873)
NANAMAN
07-28-2014, 01:33 PM
In my yard the SH3640 is a very vigorous and sturdy plant that fruits at around 10'. It produces large bunches, with large fat fingers, and the texture is on the dense side, no mealiness at all, The taste is closer to a Cavendish but much creamier, with a little tang to it. It does not pup like crazy, and the ones that do come up are usually straight up. I don't think it's appeal is based on taste alone, but all the other attributes that it possesses. That is why I have kept growing this banana and have gotten rid of so.... many others. I love sweet, sub-acid tasting bananas, which the 3640 is not. But it is better than any Cavendish banana in every respect, IMHO.
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